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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: Coach is Back! on September 18, 2023, 08:55:23 AM
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Nothing says “kidnap more of our own people than giving a terrorist country $6 billion
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/white-house-touts-iran-prisoner-exchange-deal-says-biden-making-five-families-whole-again
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Returning their own money to them seems only fair.
Do you think it's right to not give them their own money back?
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Returning their own money to them seems only fair.
Do you think it's right to not give them their own money back?
When they are world's largest state sponsor of terror, are directly responsible for the deaths of American service members, and are trying to develop nuclear weapons, no it's not right to give them access to $6 billion. Especially when using the money to trade for hostages.
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When they are world's largest state sponsor of terror, are directly responsible for the deaths of American service members, and are trying to develop nuclear weapons, no it's not right to give them access to $6 billion. Especially when using the money to trade for hostages.
On the other hand...think about it:
The U.S. overthrew a legitimate Iranian government and installed a corrupt, ruthless dictator who ran a sadistic and merciless security system in Iran.
The U.S. developed the atomic bomb and dropped it on two Japanese cities. The U.S has an arsenal of thousands of nuclear warheads.
The U.S. used baseless information to justify an invasion of a sovereign nation (Iraq and later Afghaniststan) which resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands in a twenty year war. The U.S. then abandoned it's supporters in Afghanistan and caused the death of many U.S. soldiers in an inept withdrawal.
The U.S. holds foreign citizens in prison in Guantanamo Bay without trial.
The U.S. sent foreign nationals to Romania for interrogation to avoid U.S. laws.
The U.S. has overthrown numerous legitimate South American governments and installed puppet regimes.
The U.S. supports Saudi Arabia which is a ruthless dictatorship. SA nationals attacked the U.S. on 9/11.
Saudi Arabia has assassinated those who speak out.
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On the other hand...think about it:
The U.S. overthrew a legitimate Iranian government and installed a corrupt, ruthless dictator who ran a sadistic and merciless security system in Iran.
The U.S. developed the atomic bomb and dropped it on two Japanese cities. The U.S has an arsenal of thousands of nuclear warheads.
The U.S. used baseless information to justify an invasion of a sovereign nation (Iraq and later Afghaniststan) which resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands in a twenty year war. The U.S. then abandoned it's supporters in Afghanistan and caused the death of many U.S. soldiers in an inept withdrawal.
The U.S. holds foreign citizens in prison in Guantanamo Bay without trial.
The U.S. sent foreign nationals to Romania for interrogation to avoid U.S. laws.
The U.S. has overthrown numerous legitimate South American governments and installed puppet regimes.
The U.S. supports Saudi Arabia which is a ruthless dictatorship. SA nationals attacked the U.S. on 9/11.
Saudi Arabia has assassinated those who speak out.
What does this have to do with giving $6B to the world's largest state sponsor of terror who is trying to develop nuclear weapons and is responsible for the deaths of American service members?
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What does this have to do with giving $6B to the world's largest state sponsor of terror who is trying to develop nuclear weapons and is responsible for the deaths of American service members?
You are incredibly naive.
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You are incrediblg naive.
About what?
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About what?
After what I told you about what the U.S. did in Iran you wonder why they hate the U.S.?
Learn some history.
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After what I told you about what the U.S. did in Iran you wonder why they hate the U.S.?
Learn some history.
You only mentioned one thing that "the U.S. did in Iran." Your first bullet point. The rest have zero to do with the U.S. doing anything in Iran. Gotta be more careful when grabbing random stuff off the internet. :)
But even your first point does not justify giving $6 billion to the world's largest state sponsor of terror who is trying to develop nuclear weapons and is directly responsible for killing Americans. We don't support that kind of chaos because the United States did something mean years ago. That's absurd.
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When did Hunter visit Iran?
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You only mentioned one thing that "the U.S. did in Iran." Your first bullet point. The rest have zero to do with the U.S. doing anything in Iran. Gotta be more careful when grabbing random stuff off the internet. :)
But even your first point does not justify giving $6 billion to the world's largest state sponsor of terror who is trying to develop nuclear weapons and is directly responsible for killing Americans. We don't support that kind of chaos because the United States did something mean years ago. That's absurd.
I like America.
Only I have to disagree with you on this - It has a lot to do with how America has acted
& what its done to many other countries - who gave America the right to invade so
Many other countries & bomb & kill innocent folk.
Obumer bombed 7 countries !!
You can't play it down by saying silly things like America did something mean years ago,
You're better than that.
Also who decides who can & cant have nuclear weapons?
So far only America has used them on another country.
Its a complex subject & there's many different points of view.
America is definitely not always in the right.
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I like America.
Only I have to disagree with you on this - It has a lot to do with how America has acted
& what its done to many other countries - who gave America the right to invade so
Many other countries & bomb & kill innocent folk.
Obumer bombed 7 countries !!
You can't play it down by saying silly things like America did something mean years ago,
You're better than that.
Also who decides who can & cant have nuclear weapons?
So far only America has used them on another country.
Its a complex subject & there's many different points of view.
America is definitely not always in the right.
I don't think what we did to other countries has anything to do with Iran. I'm not playing down anything wrong that the U.S. has done. I'm saying it's not relevant to whether or not we give $6B to Iran to trade for hostages. Terrible decision. If for no other reason, it gives countries like Iran an incentive to detain more Americans.
I don't think the issue of nuclear weapons regarding Iran is complicated at all. They support terrorism. They teach their kids to chant "death to America." They will likely use nuclear weapons to attack Israel, which will cause WWIII. They were responsible for killing American service members during the Iraq war. No way should we do anything to help that country obtain nuclear weapons.
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I don't think what we did to other countries has anything to do with Iran. I'm not playing down anything wrong that the U.S. has done. I'm saying it's not relevant to whether or not we give $6B to Iran to trade for hostages. Terrible decision. If for no other reason, it gives countries like Iran an incentive to detain more Americans.
I don't think the issue of nuclear weapons regarding Iran is complicated at all. They support terrorism. They teach their kids to chant "death to America." They will likely use nuclear weapons to attack Israel, which will cause WWIII. They were responsible for killing American service members during the Iraq war. No way should we do anything to help that country obtain nuclear weapons.
That's more like you & a far better answer.
As you well know the Pantomime Biden administration is a joke on the world stage
What other option do they have other than to give them 6billion ?
As for Nuclear weapons , I doubt they'd use it against Israel or any other country
As they know they'd be obliterated very soon afterwards.
With the way things are headed , we're in end times anyway.
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I like America.
Only I have to disagree with you on this - It has a lot to do with how America has acted
& what its done to many other countries - who gave America the right to invade so
Many other countries & bomb & kill innocent folk.
Obumer bombed 7 countries !!
You can't play it down by saying silly things like America did something mean years ago,
You're better than that.
Also who decides who can & cant have nuclear weapons?
So far only America has used them on another country.
Its a complex subject & there's many different points of view.
America is definitely not always in the right.
Did someone hack your account? This actually makes sense.
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Nothing says “kidnap more of our own people than giving a terrorist country $6 billion
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/white-house-touts-iran-prisoner-exchange-deal-says-biden-making-five-families-whole-again
I'll go out on a limb here... I don't know much about the indepth details as I suspect you don't. But I am willing to admit it. I do know that the 6 billion was Irans in the 1st place. It wasn't a ransom in the historical and regular sense.
To determine if this was good or bad, I would need to sit in on or have privy to the detailed information that led to this deal as I know the US has a policy about not giving in to demands. I think that differs me from you. You see "Biden whitehouse" and jump to the conclusion without any facts, that this is somehow bad. You operate on a neanderthal level in the political world.. Trump good... Biden Bad... as Ironat mentioned, in the real world there exists complexities... likely not available to the average gym coach that sways decisions.
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That's more like you & a far better answer.
As you well know the Pantomime Biden administration is a joke on the world stage
What other option do they have other than to give them 6billion ?
As for Nuclear weapons , I doubt they'd use it against Israel or any other country
As they know they'd be obliterated very soon afterwards.
With the way things are headed , we're in end times anyway.
The other option is not to give them $6 billion. We used to have a longstanding policy of not negotiating with terrorists. Obama blew that up. He's doing it again with his shadow third term.
You are giving Iran too much credit. They provide financial awards to terrorists who kill Israeli citizens. They have made no secret about wanting to destroy Israel. I don't doubt for one second that they would be dumb enough to us nuclear weapons on Israel.
But I agree that we are pretty much rearranging deck chairs on the Titatinc at this point. I've never seen a climate like this. Insanity everywhere.
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The other option is not to give them $6 billion. We used to have a longstanding policy of not negotiating with terrorists. Obama blew that up. He's doing it again with his shadow third term.
You are giving Iran too much credit. They provide financial awards to terrorists who kill Israeli citizens. They have made no secret about wanting to destroy Israel. I don't doubt for one second that they would be dumb enough to us nuclear weapons on Israel.
But I agree that we are pretty much rearranging deck chairs on the Titatinc at this point. I've never seen a climate like this. Insanity everywhere.
Jesus H Christ...
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Did someone hack your account? This actually makes sense.
Yep & let's hope he hacks your account & you go back to
Being sane & rational - Instead of the Fuckwittery type crap you've been posting recently.
HTH
;D
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Yep & let's hope he hacks your account & you go back to
Being sane & rational - Instead of the Fuckwittery type crap you've been posting recently.
HTH
;D
Fair enough.. I asked for that
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Fair enough.. I asked for that
Yep you did & you got it.
;D