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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: IroNat on September 28, 2023, 12:14:02 PM
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/california-fast-food-workers-earn-190526596.html
Fast food workers in California will earn a minimum of $20 an hour starting in April under a new bill signed into law on Thursday by Governor Gavin Newsom.
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Everything is out of control in CommieFornia....
Crime, insanity, violence, mental-illness, libturdation...
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Lots of fast food places closing except the big chains who can take the knock
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81 miLLioN voTeS...
Shitter owned into oblivion...
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Liberals are economic geniuses lol. Everything they do is designed to hurt people
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What do they consider “fast food”? There’s got to be an end around I’m sure.
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There will be three people in the store making this with the rest being replaced by machines and or robots.
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Whopper meal just went from $10 to $20. There goes my weekly cheat meal.
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Why should fast food workers be treated differently than any other job? Minimum wage should be across the board not just for those in fast food.
Maybe it's a weaselly way to reduce fast food consumption by increasing prices? It would be more direct to just institute a fat tax.
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Whopper meal just went from $10 to $20. There goes my weekly cheat meal.
This post explains why stores can’t just charge whatever they want. Price increases affect demand.
Same goes for the price of labor. When you artificially increase it, demand for it goes down. The problem is that Socialists don’t accept economic law.
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Did you know that the price on everything you buy is an offer made by the store to you.
Its not a fixed price
Its called "an invitation to treat"
An invitation to treat is when you invite someone to make an offer. For example, you may merely deliver information to tempt the other party to make an offer. There is generally no intention to be bound by an invitation to treat, and it does not form a legally binding contract
Only after you agree to the price by "offering" to pay for it then the legal contract is made
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Theyll just increase nugget prices, gas prices ...
"Oh you would like 25$hourly?''. ... Increase gas prices, fruit juice prices, oatmeal prices...
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The most obese people in the world wondering why they are targeting fast food ???
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economic law.
No such thing exists, it’s a social science like history or women’s studies.
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No such thing exists, it’s a social science like history or women’s studies.
Case in point.
In your warped mind there’s no relationship between price and demand.
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This is a terrible plan!
Higher wages means some restaurants will have to close and less new restaurants will open resulting in FEWER jobs for the very people the government is supposed to be helping.
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Since there’s no connection between price and demand I guess multibillion dollar companies have sales just for sh!Ts and giggles.🤔
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This is a terrible plan!
Higher wages means some restaurants will have to close and less new restaurants will open resulting in FEWER jobs for the very people the government is supposed to be helping.
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I can't believe you just posted that, Oak.
Shame on you for your laissez-faire thoughts.
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I can't believe you just posted that, Oak.
Shame on you for your laissez-faire thoughts.
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What convinced all of you to show solidarity with owners instead of workers?
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Restaurants that bake and sell their own bread are excluded. ???
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What convinced all of you to show solidarity with owners instead of workers?
Because without the owners there wouldn’t be workers. Pretty simple concept.
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What convinced all of you to show solidarity with owners instead of workers?
This guy said most shrink is the result of shipping. If this is true it's a result of theft or lazy laborers. You think lazy thieves should be paid more?
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This guy said most shrink is the result of shipping. If this is true it's a result of theft or lazy laborers. You think lazy thieves should be paid more?
Absolutely, I think if you work for a company turning a profit on your labor, your literal life force
You as a laborer should get a larger payout.
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Because without the owners there wouldn’t be workers. Pretty simple concept.
don’t you have some more ai or April fools articles to fall for?
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Absolutely, I think if you work for a company turning a profit on your labor, your literal life force
You as a laborer should get a larger payout.
What's an appropriate wage for fast food workers? When is it enough? 150k+?
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This won't matter all that much. They will just fire workers and either 1) make less workers work harder or 2) bring in robots.
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Fast food workers and owners should be executed
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What's an appropriate wage for fast food workers? When is it enough? 150k+?
Whatever, they should get some meaningful bonus or some sort of profit sharing off the franchise’s profit at the end of the fiscal year[size=78%].[/size]
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Because without the owners there wouldn’t be workers. Pretty simple concept.
Of course it’s wormtongue that responds , how about owners aren’t shit without laborers
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What convinced all of you to show solidarity with owners instead of workers?
Getbiggers like hamburgers.
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What convinced all of you to show solidarity with owners instead of workers?
False premise.
A workers’ best protection is having options. Advocating a policy that drives restaurants out of business is anti-worker.
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What convinced all of you to show solidarity with owners instead of workers?
It isn't about solidarity with owners. Why should fast food workers have a different minimum wage than other workers? What about gas station cashiers, janitors, etc.?
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don’t you have some more ai or April fools articles to fall for?
You don’t agree? Give me your reasoning. If you’re going to say something ridiculous, back it up
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Whatever, they should get some meaningful bonus or some sort of profit sharing off the franchise’s profit at the end of the fiscal year[size=78%].[/size]
How about free small fries once a week or at Wendy's a small Frosty?
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Whatever, they should get some meaningful bonus or some sort of profit sharing off the franchise’s profit at the end of the fiscal year[size=78%].[/size]
What if the franchise loses money? Do they give back their salary?
Socialist act as though profits are a given when in reality they’re hard to come by.
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Of course it’s wormtongue that responds , how about owners aren’t shit without laborers
Let’s take it up. You raise the minimum to 20.00 it has to be passed on to the consumer to cover the costs of doing business this includes all over head. Restaurants being fast food or otherwise run on small profit margins as it is. And with part of that profit margin is the reinvestment for growth. How does growth happen with prices are too high, consumers drop? What do you think the eventual end results will be?
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How about free small fries once a week or at Wendy's a small Frosty?
That's called the shrink loss special.
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This won't matter all that much. They will just fire workers and either 1) make less workers work harder or 2) bring in robots.
That was already the case, have you been to a cvs? A whole foods? They’re already replacing people withself checkouts while simultaneously increasing prices.
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Absolutely, I think if you work for a company turning a profit on your labor, your literal life force
You as a laborer should get a larger payout.
Just curious, at what point does the headache, sleepless nights and financial exposure by the owner get capped money wise and the rest given to the workers?
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False premise.
A workers’ best protection is having options. Advocating a policy that drives restaurants out of business is anti-worker.
advocating people work full time jobs and not be able to rent a bedroom is what? pro worker?
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Let’s take it up. You raise the minimum to 20.00 it has to be passed on to the consumer to cover the costs of doing business this includes all over head. Restaurants being fast food or otherwise run on small profit margins as it is. And with part of that profit margin is the reinvestment for growth. How does growth happen with prices are too high, consumers drop? What do you think the eventual end results will be?
Ohh is that's why costs have been passed down to the working class? because of min wages? the fed min wage hasnt been raised since 2009, that must mean no costs have been pushed on the working class.
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LoL govts and media have everyone so confused the plebs are now arguing against higher wages for the poor bugger making a takeaway hamburger.
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advocating people work full time jobs and not be able to rent a bedroom is what? pro worker?
Fast food jobs (minimum wage jobs) are entry level jobs usually used as a stepping stone for teenagers starting out in the workforce not meant to be full time positions.
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Ohh is that's why costs have been passed down to the working class? because of min wages? the fed min wage hasnt been raised since 2009, that must mean no costs have been pushed on the working class.
The minimum wage in California in 2022 was raised to $15 then in January of 23’ the wage went to 15.50. For the most part the quality of the food and services has declined while the cost of a fast food meal has gone up. At least if you’re going to absurdly raise the wage, you have to increase the quality of the food and better train the employees.
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Absolutely, I think if you work for a company turning a profit on your labor, your literal life force
You as a laborer should get a larger payout.
Good. When are you giving your employees a raise? What are your company’s profit margins and how much of that should be devoted to blue collar wages?
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Fast food jobs (minimum wage jobs) are entry level jobs usually used as a stepping stone for teenagers starting out in the workforce not meant to be full time positions.
says who? up until about 1970 america min wage was literally a livable wage. and you could argue, that post war america until around 1970 was the best period of american history. hmm, what are the odds those things line up
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Good. When are you giving your employees a raise? What are your company’s profit margins and how much of that should be devoted to blue collar wages?
I work for a startup where everyone gets equity in the company, there's 401k match and profit sharing bonus.
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says who? up until about 1970 america min wage was literally a livable wage. and you could argue, that post war america until around 1970 was the best period of american history. hmm, what are the odds those things line up
100% this
As a kid I remember we had a window cleaning guy. An ironing lady. Music tutor.
Watch it all return ;)
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The minimum wage in California in 2022 was raised to $15 then in January of 23’ the wage went to 15.50. For the most part the quality of the food and services has declined while the cost of a fast food meal has gone up. At least if you’re going to absurdly raise the wage, you have to increase the quality of the food and better train the employees.
hmm, was that the start of the decline? food service/quality wasn't on the decline way before that? companies didn't switch to idk frozen low quality meat filled with preservatives before 2022
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I work for a startup where everyone gets equity in the company, there's 401k match and profit sharing bonus.
What does that mean for entry level employees in terms of real money? Specifically what is your hourly staff paid?
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What does that mean for entry level employees in terms of real money? Specifically what is your hourly staff paid?
The customer service ppl make 55k to start, not a whole lot but they’re also fully remote.
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The customer service ppl make 55k to start, not a whole lot but they’re also fully remote.
That was an okay wage in rural America 5 years ago. When are they getting a raise?
In all honesty that is pretty decent for a CSR.
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That was an okay wage in rural America 5 years ago. When are they getting a raise?
In all honesty that is pretty decent for a CSR.
raise once a year, end of our fiscal year, but people don't really stay in that long in support, we have built in progression ladders, most people usually go on to some sort of bi\analyst role with our digital partners. The only career support people we have are like moms who want to stay at home and old ppl just looking to do something\insurance
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This is a terrible plan!
Higher wages means some restaurants will have to close and less new restaurants will open resulting in FEWER jobs for the very people the government is supposed to be helping.
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Don't worry landlords in Cali didn't miss this news. Rents just went up another $100-$150 a month. That would be 3 consecutive years.
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In 1975 in high school I had a min wage job that paid $2.10.
Inflating that to today is $11.98.
Do you think I could have lived on $2.10/hr in 1975?
No way.
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In 1975 in high school I had a min wage job that paid $2.10.
Inflating that to today is $11.98.
Do you think I could have lived on $2.10/hr in 1975?
No way.
How much was a new car in 1975?
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In 1975 in high school I had a min wage job that paid $2.10.
Inflating that to today is $11.98.
Do you think I could have lived on $2.10/hr in 1975?
No way.
It’s absurd.
My after school high school job paid $4 an hour which was a little above min wage at the time.
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The customer service ppl make 55k to start, not a whole lot but they’re also fully remote.
Is the company profitable?
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Fast food jobs (minimum wage jobs) are entry level jobs usually used as a stepping stone for teenagers starting out in the workforce not meant to be full time positions.
Lol your 30 years out of date in the modern economy this is a career people with degrees.
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How much was a new car in 1975?
$4,950
https://blog.cheapism.com/average-car-price-by-year/#slide=36
That's $114/mo 48 months @ 10% with $500 down.
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In 1990, when we had our first house built and just starting out (4 BR Colonial, 3 acres) for 100K, wife and I were making $8.00 an hour each... (17K per year).
34K total...
1990 - Median Home Value-$79,10
1990 - Avg Annual Pay - 25K
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It's literally one of the least skilled jobs in the nation. Almost all fast food chains reward unskilled laborers with longevity. Promotions, manager, store manager, district manager etc... which comes with pays raises. My POS brother step son is probably 30 now, began working at one of the burger chains about 12 or 13 years ago.... he's some kind of manager... it's not a great living but is enough for him to have his own place and support his witch and her rugrats.
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In 1990, when we had our first house built and just starting out (4 BR Colonial, 3 acres) for 100K, wife and I were making $8.00 an hour each... (17K per year).
34K total...
1990 - Median Home Value-$79,10
1990 - Avg Annual Pay - 25K
You've come a long way. Well done.
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This will all work its way out one way or another.
The prices for fast food will go up and customers either will pay or not.
I never eat fast food so I'm out of the mix.
Eating out will get more and more expensive.
Same with everything.
Disney keeps raising prices. What is the tipping point where people stop going?
Will they just keep paying more and more?
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This will all work its way out one way or another.
The prices for fast food will go up and customers either will pay or not.
I never eat fast food so I'm out of the mix.
Eating out will get more and more expensive.
prices for fast food were going to up one way or another, they could give them a pay decrease and still find a way to raise prices.
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prices for fast food were going to up one way or another, they could give them a pay decrease and still find a way to raise prices.
Perhaps, but the same question arises?
How much will people pay?
Most people are foolish with money.
I remember when a McD hamburger was 10 cents (1972).
Whoppers were $1.25 late 70s.
How old are you Residue? Just wondering on your age group if you don't mind telling.
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This is a terrible plan!
Higher wages means some restaurants will have to close and less new restaurants will open resulting in FEWER jobs for the very people the government is supposed to be helping.
:(
Yeah we're about to see a great die off in employment. You're either a welfare recipient or a tech guy.
I guarentee you the people pushing this work in AI.
that being said, wages are just keeping pace with costs of living in California/inflation.
The cost of wages per cheese burger is super low in fast food.
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Perhaps, but the same question arises?
How much will people pay?
Most people are foolish with money.
I remember when a McD hamburger was 10 cents (1972).
Whoppers were $1.25 late 70s.
How old are you Residue? Just wondering on your age group if you don't mind telling.
35 in a month
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Is the company profitable?
this year we will be, we lost quite a bit during the pandemic. we had to cut corners everywhere to avoid firing folks, and we did do a series B, we've bounced back
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In 1990, when we had our first house built and just starting out (4 BR Colonial, 3 acres) for 100K, wife and I were making $8.00 an hour each... (17K per year).
34K total...
1990 - Median Home Value-$79,10
1990 - Avg Annual Pay - 25K
I thought you were in your 30s, possibly early 40s. Geez, are you old as Wes and Coach?
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says who? up until about 1970 america min wage was literally a livable wage. and you could argue, that post war america until around 1970 was the best period of american history. hmm, what are the odds those things line up
In California in 1970 the minimum wage was $1.45. That’s not “living wage” by any stretch of the imagination. In 1976 I worked in a grocery store as a box boy, my wage was $2.50….still not a “living wage”. It was an entry level position.
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this year we will be, we lost quite a bit during the pandemic. we had to cut corners everywhere to avoid firing folks, and we did do a series B, we've bounced back
Most mom and pop restaurants can’t and didn’t bounce back from that as with some corporate owned restaurants. The same will happen again.