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Hi
Writing from a European country. One with socialized/universal "healthcare", and it is absolutely terrible. Do not buy the propaganda about its wonder.
So, HRT/TRT is VERY limited here. Docs just don't do it as a main rule, not for aging, not for post-AAS users who have suffered reduced T levels as a result of shutdown.
My question is assuming 1ml 250mg Test E or Test C what is the normal dosing in the US? How often is 1 ml 250mg injected? Is it every 2 weeks, every 10 days, once per week? I don't mean clinics that just do "light steroids" and give a bit too much, like light version of juicing. I mean actual honest HRT.
- and what about people who "excrete it" faster? Not sure how real this phenomenon is but based on bloodwork I am likely to assume it exists.
Thx!!
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My dr prescribed me 150mg cyp every 10 days. Being the half life is 4 days I do sub q 50mgs every 3.5 days instead of 150mg intramuscular every 10 days. Levels much more stable.
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My dr prescribed me 150mg cyp every 10 days. Being the half life is 4 days I do sub q 50mgs every 3.5 days instead of 150mg intramuscular every 10 days. Levels much more stable.
yEah I've read subQ gives more stable levels as well.
So 150mg Test C every 10 days is pretty close to 250mg Test C every 2 weeks. If speaking amps, not vials...
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Everyone's different, but I got on legit TRT when I turned 50 and my levels sunk from age 40 to age 50 (from 717 down to 253 total) from normal aging and statin use.
Statins kill test levels, test is made in our Cholesterol.
I started at 100 mg a week (he just wanted me to pin it once a week) over time I went up to 125 mg. (.5 cc) but I pin it twice a week to avoid the trough/dip.
So on MON and THU I just pin .25 cc with a tiny slin-pin, into my thigh. Easy/painless and that little brings me back up to around 700 (high-normal).
So at age 57, Im now where I was naturally when I was 40 (pre-statins and of course aging). I tried 200 mg once for a month, did not like it, a bit anxious/shaky for some reason...
Not sure how people can run high-hormones (maybe they dont get the sides). I felt shitty as fuck at 200 mg...
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My dr prescribed me 150mg cyp every 10 days. Being the half life is 4 days I do sub q 50mgs every 3.5 days instead of 150mg intramuscular every 10 days. Levels much more stable.
I can only imagine that conversation.
"Doc I think my T levels are low"
"Why rob?"
"Can't get my arms over 21 inches and I only jack off 5 times a day".
"I see I think 150mg every ten days ought to help"
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Everyone's different, but I got on legit TRT when I turned 50 and my levels sunk from age 40 to age 50 (from 717 down to 253 total) from normal aging and statin use.
Statins kill test levels, test is made in our Cholesterol.
I started at 100 mg a week (he just wanted me to pin it once a week) over time I went up to 125 mg. (.5 cc) but I pin it twice a week to avoid the trough/dip.
So on MON and THU I just pin .25 cc with a tiny slin-pin, into my thigh. Easy/painless and that little brings me back up to around 700 (high-normal).
So at age 57, Im now where I was naturally when I was 40 (pre-statins and of course aging). I tried 200 mg once for a month, did not like it, a bit anxious/shaky for some reason...
Not sure how people can run high-hormones (maybe they dont get the sides). I felt shitty as fuck at 200 mg...
Yeah I went from 100 to 120 and felt like that, shaky,very anxious and I started to blow up and couldn’t control the hunger. 100 for me is perfect.
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My dr prescribed me 150mg cyp every 10 days. Being the half life is 4 days I do sub q 50mgs every 3.5 days instead of 150mg intramuscular every 10 days. Levels much more stable.
I didn’t know that you finally started, Rob. The horny posts now make sense. Back to the bushes for this guy!
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I can only imagine that conversation.
"Doc I think my T levels are low"
"Why rob?"
"Can't get my arms over 21 inches and I only jack off 5 times a day".
"I see I think 150mg every ten days ought to help"
Hahahaha.
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I didn’t know that you finally started, Rob. The horny posts now make sense. Back to the bushes for this guy!
Hahaha yeah 100 mgs a week drives me crazy, I’m insatiable. The wife runs when she sees me coming.
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Hahaha yeah 100 mgs a week drives me crazy, I’m insatiable. The wife runs when she sees me coming.
That’s what we like to hear. A true Getbigger
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That’s what we like to hear. A true Getbigger
I was just typing out for you to put your avatar back cause you looked way to good to not have that up.
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Unless you're posting from behind the Iron Curtain via time machine there's no way every MD is a State Medical man.
You're barking up the wrong tree. Find a private practice or an anti aging clinic. Yes, they're in it for profit.
You sound like you're fishing for How To so fwiw I wouldn't inject anything but real pharma. Gym bro grade - no way.
But wtf do I know. One cycle ever and I didn't even know sub q was a thing for T. 21g as I recall. 23g was too fine. How in the fuck are you guys pushing oil through a slin pin?
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Unless you're posting from behind the Iron Curtain via time machine there's no way every MD is a State Medical man.
You're barking up the wrong tree. Find a private practice or an anti aging clinic. Yes, they're in it for profit.
You sound like you're fishing for How To so fwiw I wouldn't inject anything but real pharma. Gym bro grade - no way.
But wtf do I know. One cycle ever and I didn't even know sub q was a thing for T. 21g as I recall. 23g was too fine. How in the fuck are you guys pushing oil through a slin pin?
The pharm grade test flows thru a 29g very easily.
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The pharm grade test flows thru a 29g very easily.
I had Schering TE and it was like trying to inject goddamn playdough.
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I had Schering TE and it was like trying to inject goddamn playdough.
Hahaha, Yeah many years ago when I was inject long a lot of crap I had tough times pushing thru a 25g and even sometimes a 23g. But now the cyp I get from cvs is truly like a slightly thicker water.
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Here in S FL the standard protocol that all TRT/HRT clinics issue is :
200mg Test Cyp weekly
1mg arimidex tab twice weekly
It used to be 500ius of HCG weekly (same day as arimidex) then they changed it to Gonderalin (sp?) injected twice weekly (again same day as HCG), but a couple months ago they all started changing to enclomiphene 2x weekly ( either tab or capsule- however the compounding pharmacy sends it)
Apparently the feds cracked down on HCG use because it was leading to a shortage, and then everyone complained that replacement wasn’t doing shit and the half life was horrible (only a couple hours) so now they are seeing how the enclomiphene works.
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100mg a week for me. I have been with my doctor a long time and she even tells me to play with the dose to see how I feel.
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I was just typing out for you to put your avatar back cause you looked way to good to not have that up.
Getbig stretches the pic out nicely (nh) :D 193 pounds this morning (tiny tit)
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Here in S FL the standard protocol that all TRT/HRT clinics issue is :
200mg Test Cyp weekly
1mg arimidex tab twice weekly
It used to be 500ius of HCG weekly (same day as arimidex) then they changed it to Gonderalin (sp?) injected twice weekly (again same day as HCG), but a couple months ago they all started changing to enclomiphene 2x weekly ( either tab or capsule- however the compounding pharmacy sends it)
Apparently the feds cracked down on HCG use because it was leading to a shortage, and then everyone complained that replacement wasn’t doing shit and the half life was horrible (only a couple hours) so now they are seeing how the enclomiphene works.
They cracked down on the compounding pharmacies.
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Here in S FL the standard protocol that all TRT/HRT clinics issue is :
200mg Test Cyp weekly
1mg arimidex tab twice weekly
It used to be 500ius of HCG weekly (same day as arimidex) then they changed it to Gonderalin (sp?) injected twice weekly (again same day as HCG), but a couple months ago they all started changing to enclomiphene 2x weekly ( either tab or capsule- however the compounding pharmacy sends it)
Apparently the feds cracked down on HCG use because it was leading to a shortage, and then everyone complained that replacement wasn’t doing shit and the half life was horrible (only a couple hours) so now they are seeing how the enclomiphene works.
Most guys I know are on 250-350 weekly prescribed which blows my mind.
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Is HCG / was HCG commonly prescribed in the US with TRT?
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Most guys I know are on 250-350 weekly prescribed which blows my mind.
Their bodies must’ve been constantly in a state of fight or flight. With thick blood and some heart hypertrophy too
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Here in S FL the standard protocol that all TRT/HRT clinics issue is :
200mg Test Cyp weekly
1mg arimidex tab twice weekly
It used to be 500ius of HCG weekly (same day as arimidex) then they changed it to Gonderalin (sp?) injected twice weekly (again same day as HCG), but a couple months ago they all started changing to enclomiphene 2x weekly ( either tab or capsule- however the compounding pharmacy sends it)
Apparently the feds cracked down on HCG use because it was leading to a shortage, and then everyone complained that replacement wasn’t doing shit and the half life was horrible (only a couple hours) so now they are seeing how the enclomiphene works.
Whaaa?!
That is a goddamn shame. I loved HCG. I'd srsly consider HCG over TRT for youngification.
My balls. Never had. Summuchfun.
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so can any liquid steroid be injected sub-q? and where are you guys injecting it?
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so can any liquid steroid be injected sub-q? and where are you guys injecting it?
Yes it can. In the abdomen.
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Is HCG / was HCG commonly prescribed in the US with TRT?
Yes. I use HCG 1000 IU thrice per week with 100 mg T prescribed by my doctor. It helped me have two kids and I want a third.
HCG has gotten very expensive. My shipment is arriving today.
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Getbig stretches the pic out nicely (nh) :D 193 pounds this morning (tiny tit)
Looks awesome no matter the weight.
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Yes it can. In the abdomen.
nice! thank you
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They cracked down on the compounding pharmacies.
Yes from what I heard. That is why they don’t issue HCG anymore.
But the TRT/HRT clinics still will prescribe everything else - HGH, some peptides, ED drugs, etc.
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Is HCG / was HCG commonly prescribed in the US with TRT?
Yes. It was. Not anymore.
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Whaaa?!
That is a goddamn shame. I loved HCG. I'd srsly consider HCG over TRT for youngification.
My balls. Never had. Summuchfun.
Your PCP can still write you a script for it. Just not clinics.
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so can any liquid steroid be injected sub-q? and where are you guys injecting it?
A lot can leave lumps, which are painful until the oil slowly dissolves into your system.
I just jab into the thigh... I liked sub-Q somewhat, just not the lumps...
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Love handles are the sweet spot. Belly fat will leave nodules for most
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A lot can leave lumps, which are painful until the oil slowly dissolves into your system.
I just jab into the thigh... I liked sub-Q somewhat, just not the lumps...
Yes, don’t inject more than a .25 cc at a time, inject it over 30 sec to a min and massage for a minute afterwards.
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Your PCP can still write you a script for it. Just not clinics.
Was there any medical reason behind this HCG rollback?
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Was there any medical reason behind this HCG rollback?
Feds shut down compounding pharmacies from making meds like HCG and natural desiccated thyroid (the places where TRT clinics get their meds from) Thank big pharma and crooked bureaucrats
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Yes, don’t inject more than a .25 cc at a time, inject it over 30 sec to a min and massage for a minute afterwards.
Yeah, the lumps were minor, but still there. Ill try love-handles, I sort of like how I felt sub-q.
Seemed like it was always a sustained blood level...
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Doesn't the long-term use with HCG with TRT cause any problems? I mean it's not like I WANT it to, just curious.
For some it seems a totally alien concept while others say definitely do HCG as well.
I don't know if it is common for balls to shrink on HRT?
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Most guys I know are on 250-350 weekly prescribed which blows my mind.
If they were getting regular bloods done they wouldnt be precribed that much
After a few months on that your haemoglobin would be through the roof
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Was there any medical reason behind this HCG rollback?
Basically it came down to a lot of non regulated clinics were RXing HCG for weight loss purposes. And it was leading to an overall shortage.
That is what I was told.
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Been tolling for months now deciding at my age (just turned 59) if I should or want to go on TRT...
Primary doctor had me do a test test and the first time my number were low, low 184 (normal range is anywhere between 264/300 to 900...
He prescribed me androgel 1.62 with 2 pumps everyday... Insurance wouldn't pay for it because they said I need more than just 1 test to verify lower than norm testosterone....
So since this first test, I've tested 2 more times. Second time, my number was in the 400 plus range, the next time down to the low 300's....
Taking all 3 test tests together my average is around 320. Still in the normal range, but also on the pretty low range of "normal"...
So because i'm still in the normal range, my doctor won't prescribe it because it would too expensive out of pocket? The insurance won't pay for it...
So I guess it's a male clinic of some sort or not at all?
Oh yeah, also because i'm on Crestor 5mg for my higher than normal cholesterol (although it's not that high, no family history of heart disease/stroke, etc) I now find that this could be lowering my Testosterone. Did a recent calcium score test to check for plaque in the arteries just as a "precautionary" test (optional elective test costing 99 dollars out of pocket) and on the scales of 0-10, 11-100, 101-500, I rated a low "5"... So right now i'm at a very very low risk of heart issues....
So how to move forward with TRT or not is the question...
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Doesn't the long-term use with HCG with TRT cause any problems? I mean it's not like I WANT it to, just curious.
For some it seems a totally alien concept while others say definitely do HCG as well.
I don't know if it is common for balls to shrink on HRT?
As I’ve said, I took and still take HCG with TRT for fertility and my doc is the former chairman of urology at a hospital.
One either does HCG monotherapy for up to 10,000 IU per week or TRT with a smaller dose of HCG.
No, it doesn’t cause problems. There is nothing in medical literature showing such for long-term HCG even with high doses.
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Been tolling for months now deciding at my age (just turned 59) if I should or want to go on TRT...
Primary doctor had me do a test test and the first time my number were low, low 184 (normal range is anywhere between 264/300 to 900...
He prescribed me androgel 1.62 with 2 pumps everyday... Insurance wouldn't pay for it because they said I need more than just 1 test to verify lower than norm testosterone....
So since this first test, I've tested 2 more times. Second time, my number was in the 400 plus range, the next time down to the low 300's....
Taking all 3 test tests together my average is around 320. Still in the normal range, but also on the pretty low range of "normal"...
So because i'm still in the normal range, my doctor won't prescribe it because it would too expensive out of pocket? The insurance won't pay for it...
So I guess it's a male clinic of some sort or not at all?
Oh yeah, also because i'm on Crestor 5mg for my higher than normal cholesterol (although it's not that high, no family history of heart disease/stroke, etc) I now find that this could be lowering my Testosterone. Did a recent calcium score test to check for plaque in the arteries just as a "precautionary" test (optional elective test costing 99 dollars out of pocket) and on the scales of 0-10, 11-100, 101-500, I rated a low "5"... So right now i'm at a very very low risk of heart issues....
So how to move forward with TRT or not is the question...
If no family history youre probably fine. However, calcium scoring only see's "calcified plaque" which is what you want if you do have any.
It does not see soft plaque, which causes the most damage... A buddy was happy with his "zero" on his calcium score.
4 months later he had a widow-maker bypass. (soft-plaque blockage)... Its a game....
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I'm always amazed how many guys that lift weights are on TRT. If you use it for a couple of years I guess it's for life then. I can't imagine shutting down LH hormone for such a long time. Will it come back if you stop after years of TRT?
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I'm always amazed how many guys that lift weights are on TRT. If you use it for a couple of years I guess it's for life then. I can't imagine shutting down LH hormone for such a long time. Will it come back if you stop after years of TRT?
The ones who actually need it, your LH is already shut down. Kids run gear today and say they are on "TRT" you know, 500 mg's.. ::)
Sometimes it doesnt come back if they suppress it bad enough... Most of the time it comes back though... Though maybe not at the same level of function...
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I'm always amazed how many guys that lift weights are on TRT. If you use it for a couple of years I guess it's for life then. I can't imagine shutting down LH hormone for such a long time. Will it come back if you stop after years of TRT?
Rich I know you`re anti-roids,and that`s cool. but at your age a doc that prescribes legit TRT will only benefit you IMO.
A mans testosterone levels drop steadily beginning at 25 years of age in most cases and continuously keep dropping as time goes by.
I`m certainly not telling you what to do by any means,or even advising you......just food for thought my friend.
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Rich I know you`re anti-roids,and that`s cool. but at your age a doc that prescribes legit TRT will only benefit you IMO.
A mans testosterone levels drop steadily beginning at 25 years of age in most cases and continuously keep dropping as time goes by.
I`m certainly not telling you what to do by any means,or even advising you......just food for thought my friend.
If I know Rich, like I think I know Rich, he’s not going to appreciate the condescending tone, Wes.
:D
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The ones who actually need it, your LH is already shut down. Kids run gear today and say they are on "TRT" you know, 500 mg's.. ::)
Sometimes it doesnt come back if they suppress it bad enough... Most of the time it comes back though... Though maybe not at the same level of function...
Yes, many bodybuilders are using more test than any sane doctor would prescribe for hypogonadism calling it TRT. Some play the game that the upper level of normal is 1000 ng/dl so they supplement to that. Never mind they were never above 500 when they were a 21 years old natural.
What many don't know is that testosterone is a factor in enlarged prostates that happen to so many guys over 60. Know what they do for prostate cancer and enlarged prostates? They give you a pill to chemically castrate you to eliminate the testosterone.
As long as I'm in the normal range no matter how low I will not take testosterone. Too much supplemental test can also change the viscosity of your blood making it thick increasing the odds of heart attacks. Always shocked when I hear a 40 year old kid saying they are on TRT. What kind of ill health is effecting all these young men who work out in the weight room? I know the reason.
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Rich I know you`re anti-roids,and that`s cool. but at your age a doc that prescribes legit TRT will only benefit you IMO.
A mans testosterone levels drop steadily beginning at 25 years of age in most cases and continuously keep dropping as time goes by.
I`m certainly not telling you what to do by any means,or even advising you......just food for thought my friend.
I never take any offense by what you write. Is every man "sick" because they are not at the testosterone level they were at when they were 25? I know many that have supplemented through the years for bodybuilding have permanently lowered testosterone. I guess they truly need TRT. If they didn't they would be singing soprano playing with their man boobs and getting emotional watching Hallmark movies. Just having fun with the last line. Hope all is well with you Wes and your family. I know I shouldn't post on the site because my anti steroid stance angers users. I mean no offense.
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Yes, many bodybuilders are using more test than any sane doctor would prescribe for hypogonadism calling it TRT. Some play the game that the upper level of normal is 1000 ng/dl so they supplement to that. Never mind they were never above 500 when they were a 21 years old natural.
What many don't know is that testosterone is a factor in enlarged prostates that happen to so many guys over 60. Know what they do for prostate cancer and enlarged prostates? They give you a pill to chemically castrate you to eliminate the testosterone.
As long as I'm in the normal range no matter how low I will not take testosterone. Too much supplemental test can also change the viscosity of your blood making it thick increasing the odds of heart attacks. Always shocked when I hear a 40 year old kid saying they are on TRT. What kind of ill health is effecting all these young men who work out in the weight room? I know the reason.
Forty-year-old “kid”?
One can acquire hypogonadism at any adult age. TRT is taken for hypogonadism regardless of age.
You’re not a physician, let alone one that specializes in andrology.
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Sample stack of a young guy making his pro debut soon:
1000mg Test Cyp weekly - UGL
500mg Primo E weekly - UGL
300mg NPP weekly - UGL
4.5 IU HGH daily - split morning, pre-workout, night - generic
6iu Novolog - pre and post workout - prescribed
20iu Novolin N - last meal - prescribed
80mg Telmisartan daily - prescribed
20mg Nolvadex daily - split morning and night - prescribed
12.5mg Aromasin daily - prescribed
50mg Proviron daily - UGL
Thats a lot of drugs...
On real TRT you get bloods done a few times a year, all of my numbers are always perfect (no thick blood, etc)...
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Forty-year-old “kid”?
One can acquire hypogonadism at any adult age. TRT is taken for hypogonadism regardless of age.
You’re not a physician, let alone one that specializes in andrology.
TRT under a Dr is indeed quite safe...
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Forty-year-old “kid”?
One can acquire hypogonadism at any adult age. TRT is taken for hypogonadism regardless of age.
You’re not a physician, let alone one that specializes in andrology.
Yes, a forty year old is a young man. You should be able to do 90-95% of your physical best in VO2 max and strength at 40. Not so much in your 60's. The overwhelming majority of guys that fall below 300 ng/dl are aging males. That rule goes out the window for steroid users.
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Sample stack of a young guy making his pro debut soon:
1000mg Test Cyp weekly - UGL
500mg Primo E weekly - UGL
300mg NPP weekly - UGL
4.5 IU HGH daily - split morning, pre-workout, night - generic
6iu Novolog - pre and post workout - prescribed
20iu Novolin N - last meal - prescribed
80mg Telmisartan daily - prescribed
20mg Nolvadex daily - split morning and night - prescribed
12.5mg Aromasin daily - prescribed
50mg Proviron daily - UGL
Thats a lot of drugs...
On real TRT you get bloods done a few times a year, all of my numbers are always perfect (no thick blood, etc)...
It is quite reasonable I think, not over the top. Yes its alot of drugs but his total mg's is under 2gms and the GH and slin are not excessive.
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Not everybody is the same. I have a grade 3 vericocele and SHBG at 90 which in turn puts my free test at around where a 60 year old would be although my total test was always 800-900 ng/dl. Had surgery on the vericocele. The surgery didn’t work, so I decided to do something about it although I’m still a kid at 39 :P
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It is quite reasonable I think, not over the top. Yes its alot of drugs but his total mg's is under 2gms and the GH and slin are not excessive.
How much does that cost per month? No clue but I bet it's a lot.
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Here’s me. After my first injection, my mustache finally came in and these glasses arrived in the mail from an anonymous sender. I’d like to think MM is looking down on me, and I have tributed my entire life to him
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I dont think it would be very expensive because the GH is generic. I don't use GH, or slin.
I get a bottle of test here for 38 dollars.
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It is quite reasonable I think, not over the top. Yes its alot of drugs but his total mg's is under 2gms and the GH and slin are not excessive.
Looks like a ton to me, but I never got into that side of things, so I dont know... Like I mentioned earlier, when I tried 200 mg of Test for my TRT, I was anxious as hell.
Hands shaky, etc...
Really felt bad. It went away in like a week or 2 of moving back down and esters clearing... Some obviously can handle this stuff better than others...
Like when I drank booze, I could do a 10-pack of Vodka nips, 6 beers and barely have a buzz (After 40 years of practice). Others would be hammered...
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I never take any offense by what you write. Is every man "sick" because they are not at the testosterone level they were at when they were 25? I know many that have supplemented through the years for bodybuilding have permanently lowered testosterone. I guess they truly need TRT. If they didn't they would be singing soprano playing with their man boobs and getting emotional watching Hallmark movies. Just having fun with the last line. Hope all is well with you Wes and your family. I know I shouldn't post on the site because my anti steroid stance angers users. I mean no offense.
You funny bastid! LOL ;D
It doesn`t anger me at all.........to each his own.
I`m, going through a bit of a physical problem,but it seems to be clearing up....thank God.
I have never had any problems regaining my natural Test levels after coming off........never did PCT, or had gyno.....but that`s just me.
All the best bud ;)
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Looks like a ton to me, but I never got into that side of things, so I dont know... Like I mentioned earlier, when I tried 200 mg of Test for my TRT, I was anxious as hell.
Hands shaky, etc...
Really felt bad. It went away in like a week or 2 of moving back down and esters clearing... Some obviously can handle this stuff better than others...
Like when I drank booze, I could do a 10-pack of Vodka nips, 6 beers and barely have a buzz (After 40 years of practice). Others would be hammered...
I would be hammered.
200mg test is a zen zone for me.
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You funny bastid! LOL ;D
It doesn`t anger me at all.........to each his own.
I`m, going through a bit of a physical problem,but it seems to be clearing up....thank God.
I have never had any problems regaining my natural Test levels after coming off........never did PCT, or had gyno.....but that`s just me.
All the best bud ;)
You could come off and recover even at your sparkly young age???
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You could come off and recover even at your sparkly young age???
So far,I always have,
I never use gigantic amounts but rather build up to a fairly high dosage for a few weeks during prep and than taper slowly down.
Another thing I have rarely done which I am presently doing is an off-season cycle and putting on pretty good size.
I always dd way too many contests in a row........did 5 one time and 7 on another occasion.......hard to hold condition after a time, and forget about adding lots of size, though I do ALWAYS get bigger during a prep probably because I am more focused.
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Your some buck Wes. What is your off season cycle looking like if you don't mind me asking?
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Your some buck Wes. What is your off season cycle looking like if you don't mind me asking?
Right now Ro,I am Running 200 mgs. of Test 400 2 X a week,150mgs.Equipoise,2 X a week,and 50 mgs. of D-Bol daily.
I may decrease the D-Bol to 25 mgs.
I have increases all macros and food intake and only train 4 X a week as opposed to my usual 6 X a week.
In the past I would just do 500 mgs. of any kind of Test I could get or train clean for a while.........back then I was a big believer in cycling on and off.
I have done contests using only Sustanon as I ran out of gear, but my diet was so strict and stringent that I placed top 3-5 anyway.
People make fun of me for joining gh15`s board,I wasn`t his pal,I went there to learn........I got in my best shape ever at 57 years old just by listening to guys over there.........not gh15 in particular.......he was just a guy trying to hustle people for gear.
Any suggestions RO ?
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Right now Ro,I am Running 200 mgs. of Test 400 2 X a week,150mgs.Equipoise,2 X a week,and 50 mgs. of D-Bol daily.
I may decrease the D-Bol to 25 mgs.
I have increases all macros and food intake and only train 4 X a week as opposed to my usual 6 X a week.
In the past I would just do 500 mgs. of any kind of Test I could get or train clean for a while.........back then I was a big believer in cycling on and off.
I have done contests using only Sustanon as I ran out of gear, but my diet was so strict and stringent that I placed top 3-5 anyway.
People make fun of me for joining gh15`s board,I wasn`t his pal,I went there to learn........I got in my best shape ever at 57 years old just by listening to guys over there.........not gh15 in particular.......he was just a guy trying to hustle people for gear.
Any suggestions RO ?
Sounds like a good stack, Dbol is the best feel good steroid. No deca in there to lube the joints?
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Right now Ro,I am Running 200 mgs. of Test 400 2 X a week,150mgs.Equipoise,2 X a week,and 50 mgs. of D-Bol daily.
I may decrease the D-Bol to 25 mgs.
I have increases all macros and food intake and only train 4 X a week as opposed to my usual 6 X a week.
In the past I would just do 500 mgs. of any kind of Test I could get or train clean for a while.........back then I was a big believer in cycling on and off.
I have done contests using only Sustanon as I ran out of gear, but my diet was so strict and stringent that I placed top 3-5 anyway.
People make fun of me for joining gh15`s board,I wasn`t his pal,I went there to learn........I got in my best shape ever at 57 years old just by listening to guys over there.........not gh15 in particular.......he was just a guy trying to hustle people for gear.
Any suggestions RO ?
So 400 test,300 eq and 350 dbol a week? Is that right? You must be blowing the fuck up.
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Sounds like a good stack, Dbol is the best feel good steroid. No deca in there to lube the joints?
I know,I did order some but my guy didn`t have any,so I opted for Equipoise.
I have to put in another order soon,so hopefully I can score some then.
When contest time rolls around I`ll be getting Masteron and I`ll do some Halo for 2-3 weeks time right before the contest.........I already have Tren which I will use to a minimum,lots of D-Bol And Anadrol 50 for this winter (soon).
Thanks ;)
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So 400 test,300 eq and 350 dbol a week? Is that right? You must be blowing the fuck up.
Rob,the heaviest I have ever been bulking,and you know I`m a small guy was 188 a few tears back, and I looked bloofy........now I have been up to 193 with the top two rows of abs showing and plenty of vascularity.
I have recently dropped to 185 and look and feel better at this weight......I have plenty of time before the show.
After my Lung Cancer and eating crappy and doing absoulutely nothing for 5 years,I could only do 5 hard pushups......I`ve come a long way and I feel I`m just getting started.
I`m not huge,but I`m one handsome bastard! LOL ;D
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I know,I did order some but my guy didn`t have any,so I opted for Equipoise.
I have to put in another order soon,so hopefully I can score some then.
When contest time rolls around I`ll be getting Masteron and I`ll some Halo for 2-3 weeks time.........I already have Tren which I will use to a minimum,lots of D-Bol And Anadrol 50 for this winter (soon).
Thanks ;)
You have the constitution of a horse 8)
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You have the constitution of a horse 8)
I will say this...I`m hard to kill. ;D
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Sounds like a good stack, Dbol is the best feel good steroid. No deca in there to lube the joints?
D-Bol and Test always give me a feeling of well being........on the other hand Tren and Halo make me crazy.
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I will say this...I`m hard to kill. ;D
Haha fucking right sir.
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Everyone's different, but I got on legit TRT when I turned 50 and my levels sunk from age 40 to age 50 (from 717 down to 253 total) from normal aging and statin use.
Statins kill test levels, test is made in our Cholesterol.
I started at 100 mg a week (he just wanted me to pin it once a week) over time I went up to 125 mg. (.5 cc) but I pin it twice a week to avoid the trough/dip.
So on MON and THU I just pin .25 cc with a tiny slin-pin, into my thigh. Easy/painless and that little brings me back up to around 700 (high-normal).
So at age 57, Im now where I was naturally when I was 40 (pre-statins and of course aging). I tried 200 mg once for a month, did not like it, a bit anxious/shaky for some reason...
Not sure how people can run high-hormones (maybe they dont get the sides). I felt shitty as fuck at 200 mg...
Been on no less than 500mg for the past 16 yrs. Feel good. Just had my second ct scan, calcium score was 0. Echocardiogram done cardiologist didn’t have any negative comments. Labs done 3x’s a year, no issues there. I take 0 meds.
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Been on no less than 500mg for the past 16 yrs. Feel good. Just had my second ct scan, calcium score was 0. Echocardiogram done cardiologist didn’t have any negative comments. Labs done 3x’s a year, no issues there. I take 0 meds.
Test Is Best !!
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Lol "a physician" ::)
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Lol "a physician" ::)
Heal thyself!
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Heal thyself!
Major league bullshit alert when they start throwing around big words.
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Major league bullshit alert when they start throwing around big words.
Those "big" words can`t confuse me cuz little do they know I`m a gynecologist.
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Those "big" words can`t confuse me cuz little do they know I`m a gynecologist.
Nobody says "physician" without trying to sound more sophisticated than necessary
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Nobody says "physician" without trying to sound more sophisticated than necessary
What`s up doc would be suitable. ;D
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What`s up doc would be suitable. ;D
For sure, they are vastly overrated to begin with
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Been on no less than 500mg for the past 16 yrs. Feel good. Just had my second ct scan, calcium score was 0. Echocardiogram done cardiologist didn’t have any negative comments. Labs done 3x’s a year, no issues there. I take 0 meds.
Good for you man! Can I ask how old you are? (Just curious)...
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Here in S FL the standard protocol that all TRT/HRT clinics issue is :
200mg Test Cyp weekly
1mg arimidex tab twice weekly
It used to be 500ius of HCG weekly (same day as arimidex) then they changed it to Gonderalin (sp?) injected twice weekly (again same day as HCG), but a couple months ago they all started changing to enclomiphene 2x weekly ( either tab or capsule- however the compounding pharmacy sends it)
Apparently the feds cracked down on HCG use because it was leading to a shortage, and then everyone complained that replacement wasn’t doing shit and the half life was horrible (only a couple hours) so now they are seeing how the enclomiphene works.
The change from HCG sucked. HCG made my balls super plump. This new compound just doesn’t have the same effect.
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Good for you man! Can I ask how old you are? (Just curious)...
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I'm prescribed 200 MG test cyp, 1 MG arimidex, 25 units hcg twice a week.
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I'm prescribed 200 MG test cyp, 1 MG arimidex, 25 units hcg twice a week.
On 500mg of TE weekly I find .5 of adex twice a week keeps my estradiol in range. I only used HCG for a few months while off Test to get my wife pregnant, worked well.
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Sample stack of a young guy making his pro debut soon:
1000mg Test Cyp weekly - UGL
500mg Primo E weekly - UGL
300mg NPP weekly - UGL
4.5 IU HGH daily - split morning, pre-workout, night - generic
6iu Novolog - pre and post workout - prescribed
20iu Novolin N - last meal - prescribed
80mg Telmisartan daily - prescribed
20mg Nolvadex daily - split morning and night - prescribed
12.5mg Aromasin daily - prescribed
50mg Proviron daily - UGL
Thats a lot of drugs...
On real TRT you get bloods done a few times a year, all of my numbers are always perfect (no thick blood, etc)...
I literally couldnt be arsed taking all that
I would probably forget half of it
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The change from HCG sucked. HCG made my balls super plump. This new compound just doesn’t have the same effect.
Have you used the enclomiphene? It is supposed to actually raise test as well.
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I'm prescribed 200 MG test cyp, 1 MG arimidex, 25 units hcg twice a week.
KK,you gotta post a full body physique pic bro...........no homo.
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I literally couldnt be arsed taking all that
I would probably forget half of it
I actually hate giving myself 2 shots a week.........fuck that BS.
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Have you used the enclomiphene? It is supposed to actually raise test as well.
Forgive me for hijacking this thread. I've been using enclomiphene since the beginning of the year. I've been using it all by itself at 12.5mg's daily.
I started with an abysmal test score of 150ng's
4 months later I was at 487ng's
4 months later and I am at 669ng's
Every other marker on the hormone panel is within range. LH and FSH are right in the middle of normal and estradiol is at 24. I'm quite happy. My bp last reading was 106/70. All time low.
The broader point is that lots of clinics are now using enclomiphene in place of hcg or gonadorelin. Typically only 2 doses per week.
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Right now Ro,I am Running 200 mgs. of Test 400 2 X a week,150mgs.Equipoise,2 X a week,and 50 mgs. of D-Bol daily.
I may decrease the D-Bol to 25 mgs.
I have increases all macros and food intake and only train 4 X a week as opposed to my usual 6 X a week.
In the past I would just do 500 mgs. of any kind of Test I could get or train clean for a while.........back then I was a big believer in cycling on and off.
I have done contests using only Sustanon as I ran out of gear, but my diet was so strict and stringent that I placed top 3-5 anyway.
People make fun of me for joining gh15`s board,I wasn`t his pal,I went there to learn........I got in my best shape ever at 57 years old just by listening to guys over there.........not gh15 in particular.......he was just a guy trying to hustle people for gear.
Any suggestions RO ?
Who makes Dianabol today? I thought it was discontinued many decades ago. Back in the day it was seriously strong. Same with Anadrol 50. Seen guys using one Anadrol 50 for 6 weeks go from a zero to a hero. Powerful stuff. I wonder if the stuff sold on the black market is anywhere near the same strength as the original dianabol and anadrol 50? Anavar had a well deserved reputation for having very low side effects and hazards. You mentioned Equipose I believe. I can't believe that horse stuff is still being made. Isn't it similar to deca?
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Who makes Dianabol today? I thought it was discontinued many decades ago. Back in the day it was seriously strong. Same with Anadrol 50. Seen guys using one Anadrol 50 for 6 weeks go from a zero to a hero. Powerful stuff. I wonder if the stuff sold on the black market is anywhere near the same strength as the original dianabol and anadrol 50? Anavar had a well deserved reputation for having very low side effects and hazards. You mentioned Equipose I believe. I can't believe that horse stuff is still being made. Isn't it similar to deca?
Its actually called Metandienone these days.......CIBA was the original manufacturer.
Tons of companies make it.
Equipoise is actually Boldenon.......not quite like Deca.
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Been tolling for months now deciding at my age (just turned 59) if I should or want to go on TRT...
Primary doctor had me do a test test and the first time my number were low, low 184 (normal range is anywhere between 264/300 to 900...
He prescribed me androgel 1.62 with 2 pumps everyday... Insurance wouldn't pay for it because they said I need more than just 1 test to verify lower than norm testosterone....
So since this first test, I've tested 2 more times. Second time, my number was in the 400 plus range, the next time down to the low 300's....
Taking all 3 test tests together my average is around 320. Still in the normal range, but also on the pretty low range of "normal"...
So because i'm still in the normal range, my doctor won't prescribe it because it would too expensive out of pocket? The insurance won't pay for it...
So I guess it's a male clinic of some sort or not at all?
Oh yeah, also because i'm on Crestor 5mg for my higher than normal cholesterol (although it's not that high, no family history of heart disease/stroke, etc) I now find that this could be lowering my Testosterone. Did a recent calcium score test to check for plaque in the arteries just as a "precautionary" test (optional elective test costing 99 dollars out of pocket) and on the scales of 0-10, 11-100, 101-500, I rated a low "5"... So right now i'm at a very very low risk of heart issues....
So how to move forward with TRT or not is the question...
I have had conversations with TRT doctors and more than one said that the upper cut-off age should be around 60...
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The change from HCG sucked. HCG made my balls super plump. This new compound just doesn’t have the same effect.
I’m still puzzled what you people are talking about concerning HCG. I just got a shipment of it yesterday, prescribed by my doctor.
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Cool deadz, thx brother...
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Forgive me for hijacking this thread. I've been using enclomiphene since the beginning of the year. I've been using it all by itself at 12.5mg's daily.
I started with an abysmal test score of 150ng's
4 months later I was at 487ng's
4 months later and I am at 669ng's
Every other marker on the hormone panel is within range. LH and FSH are right in the middle of normal and estradiol is at 24. I'm quite happy. My bp last reading was 106/70. All time low.
The broader point is that lots of clinics are now using enclomiphene in place of hcg or gonadorelin. Typically only 2 doses per week.
Good you can tolerate clomid Abe, many cannot, it makes them an emotional wreck, etc..
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Nobody says "physician" without trying to sound more sophisticated than necessary
So you're new, and you feel the need to come and harass everyone, with a fake 'tough guy' gimmick?
We know your kind "SchlongWasFed". You're mad your Ma burns your hot-pockets, so after you fist her stinky kvnt, you come wise off like a 12 yr old.
Got it... ::)
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I have had conversations with TRT doctors and more than one said that the upper cut-off age should be around 60...
why?
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Good you can tolerate clomid Abe, many cannot, it makes them an emotional wreck, etc..
It's not clomid but rather enclomiphene which means it doesn't have the estrogenic isomer zuclomiphene. Which is probably why I don't have those side effects. Although in my past experience of running traditional clomid for PCT purposes I didn't get the emotional issues that so many do. I also never ran it for more than 4-6 weeks. I'm going to see what happens going every other day for a while and see if my numbers hold. The less I have to take the better.
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They said it is bad for men to be on testosterone past the age of 60 because the negatives start to add to add up.
It's like when Top Gear would buy very used sports cars and try to drive them hard.
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Who’s “they”?
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Good you can tolerate clomid Abe, many cannot, it makes them an emotional wreck, etc..
Enclomiphene is simply clomid with the zuclomiphene removed from it. That is what causes the mood swings.
They just simply isolated the enclomiphene isomer.
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Forgive me for hijacking this thread. I've been using enclomiphene since the beginning of the year. I've been using it all by itself at 12.5mg's daily.
I started with an abysmal test score of 150ng's
4 months later I was at 487ng's
4 months later and I am at 669ng's
Every other marker on the hormone panel is within range. LH and FSH are right in the middle of normal and estradiol is at 24. I'm quite happy. My bp last reading was 106/70. All time low.
The broader point is that lots of clinics are now using enclomiphene in place of hcg or gonadorelin. Typically only 2 doses per week.
You are getting about 88mg weekly broken down on a daily basis. I wonder if people are actually seeing results only taking 25mg twice a week.
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Who’s “they”?
The Ubiquitous They.
https://theubiquitousthey.com/
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It's not clomid but rather enclomiphene which means it doesn't have the estrogenic isomer zuclomiphene. Which is probably why I don't have those side effects. Although in my past experience of running traditional clomid for PCT purposes I didn't get the emotional issues that so many do. I also never ran it for more than 4-6 weeks. I'm going to see what happens going every other day for a while and see if my numbers hold. The less I have to take the better.
Thx man for the clarification...
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The Ubiquitous They.
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They said it is bad for men to be on testosterone past the age of 60 because the negatives start to add to add up.
It's like when Top Gear would buy very used sports cars and try to drive them hard.
What about the negatives of having no testosterone/low testosterone...
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What about the negatives of having no testosterone/low testosterone...
Ive read that is much worse... Good and bad probably come with any medical decision.
IF a person shows no ill-effects from legit Rx TRT and bloods, I see no issues with it.
BP meds and other stuff they push on others is much worse for you. The TRT studies were always done on fat/lazy gen-pop.
Not on folks who are into fitness...
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Who’s “they”?
The TRT doctors I have had conversations with...
Happy Days
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They said it is bad for men to be on testosterone past the age of 60 because the negatives start to add to add up.
It's like when Top Gear would buy very used sports cars and try to drive them hard.
Then YOU should listen to your "doctor" I'm 100% certain your "doctor" has your best interest in mind. ::)
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Then YOU should listen to your "doctor" I'm 100% certain your "doctor" has your best interest in mind. ::)
Shit I`m 68,and feel like I`m 25.....my dick gets hard if the wind blows.
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They said it is bad for men to be on testosterone past the age of 60 because the negatives start to add to add up.
It's like when Top Gear would buy very used sports cars and try to drive them hard.
How long do you want to live after 60 FFS
im 60 in 18 months its pretty much all downhill from here on in
Dont drink , smoke or take drugs as they knock years off your life
Yes, but only the fucking last ones which are by far the worst
I dont want immigrants dragging me out of bed in a fucking care home when Im 80
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Shit I`m 68,and feel like I`m 25.....my dick gets hard if the wind blows.
You’re post just made Primehomo hard.
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That's Them.
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They said it is bad for men to be on testosterone past the age of 60 because the negatives start to add to add up.
It's like when Top Gear would buy very used sports cars and try to drive them hard.
On the other hand “they”say TRT it’s actually good on your liver , specifically fatty liver….
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How long do you want to live after 60 FFS
im 60 in 18 months its pretty much all downhill from here on in
Dont drink , smoke or take drugs as they knock years off your life
Yes, but only the fucking last ones which are by far the worst
I dont want immigrants dragging me out of bed in a fucking care home when Im 80
Smoking maybe but a little red wine has been shown to have anti aging effects and drugs is a big umbrella.
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You’re post just made Primehomo hard.
:-\
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Everybody says they don`t want to get old,but age is a state of mind........if you don`t mind,it don`t matter.
I mean if I`m doddering around pissing my pants please kill me, but they`ll have to pry a barbell from my cold dead hands.
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Smoking maybe but a little red wine has been shown to have anti aging effects and drugs is a big umbrella.
said the egg man to the walrus. ;D
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said the egg man to the walrus. ;D
Koo Koo Kachoo ;)
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Got my labs back today, my doctor orders labs every 6 months and at my request if want labs done any time, anyway since going carnivore the last labs prior were in the 1200 range, this is the current test. I've been with this doctor for 3 years now, all my prior labs I was in the 900-1000 range, only thing I changed is my diet. Oh and this was taken 4 days post any injection, you want to try to get an accurate result and if you pin too close to testing day you're results will be off.
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Got my labs back today, my doctor orders labs every 6 months and at my request if want labs done any time, anyway since going carnivore the last labs prior were in the 1200 range, this is the current test. I've been with this doctor for 3 years now, all my prior labs I was in the 900-1000 range, only thing I changed is my diet. Oh and this was taken 4 days post any injection, you want to try to get an accurate result and if you pin too close to testing day you're results will be off.
What is your point?
You're on drugs and your levels reflect it.
Test levels fluctuate widely over the course of a day.
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What is your point?
Relax.
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Relax.
Don't mess with Nappy.
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What is your point?
You're on drugs and your levels reflect it.
Test levels fluctuate widely over the course of a day.
My point was on a low fat, high protein, high carb diet..my test levels were consistently around 900 mark, been strict carnivore over a year and a half, I've changed nothing at all dose wise, and my levels have increased dramatically.
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Anarchy in the UK! ::)
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Got my labs back today, my doctor orders labs every 6 months and at my request if want labs done any time, anyway since going carnivore the last labs prior were in the 1200 range, this is the current test. I've been with this doctor for 3 years now, all my prior labs I was in the 900-1000 range, only thing I changed is my diet. Oh and this was taken 4 days post any injection, you want to try to get an accurate result and if you pin too close to testing day you're results will be off.
what is your weekly mgs?
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Who’s “they”?
"they" are @ 1:44
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My point was on a low fat, high protein, high carb diet..my test levels were consistently around 900 mark, been strict carnivore over a year and a half, I've changed nothing at all dose wise, and my levels have increased dramatically.
I thought that might have been your point.
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what is your weekly mgs?
Doctor prescribed 200mg test cyp, 1mg arimidex, 50 units hcg(25 iu twice a week)
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Doctor prescribed 200mg test cyp, 1mg arimidex, 50 units hcg(25 iu twice a week)
200 per week?
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Doctor prescribed 200mg test cyp, 1mg arimidex, 50 units hcg(25 iu twice a week)
I am sure you know that your levels are supraphysiological. Is a trt doc not suppose to keep one within the reference range?
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200 per week?
Yes
I am sure you know that your levels are supraphysiological. Is a trt doc not suppose to keep one within the reference range?
He's still keeping my dose the same he called me yesterday after the results came in and asked if I was still on carnivore, I told him yes, he's been suggesting to his patients to adhere to a carnivore or at least an animal based nutrition protocol due to my past 2 labs, everything is in range, my labs are the best of his patients (fasting glucose, hemoglobin, tsh, ast, alt, psa, triglycerides, total cholesterol etc) so he hasn't lowered my dose, but technically he should yes.
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Yes
He's still keeping my dose the same he called me yesterday after the results came in and asked if I was still on carnivore, I told him yes, he's been suggesting to his patients to adhere to a carnivore or at least an animal based nutrition protocol due to my past 2 labs, everything is in range, my labs are the best of his patients (fasting glucose, hemoglobin, tsh, ast, alt, psa, triglycerides, total cholesterol etc) so he hasn't lowered my dose, but technically he should yes.
I take it you pay this guy?
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I am sure you know that your levels are supraphysiological. Is a trt doc not suppose to keep one within the reference range?
Some reference ranges top out at 1200 most top out at 850-900
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I take it you pay this guy?
$200 a month
Some reference ranges top out at 1200 most top out at 850-900
The range here tops out at 1200
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$200 a month
The range here tops out at 1200
Exactly great arms brosef
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Exactly great arms brosef
Thanks man💪💯
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$200 a month
The range here tops out at 1200
So he will just keep prescribing as long as you keep paying
He doesnt care about your long term health, he just wants a nice house and car
Legit TRT is 125mgs a week tops and if your test levels go past whats considered normal they will reduce the dose
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So he will just keep prescribing as long as you keep paying
He doesnt care about your long term health, he just wants a nice house and car
Legit TRT is 125mgs a week tops and if your test levels go past whats considered normal they will reduce the dose
Everything is in range, hemoglobin, hematocrit, psa, total cholesterol, ldl, hdl, ast, alt, estradiol, BP 110/70. So he's keeping my dose as is, I've never had to donate blood. Everything is on point, hormone clinics are designed to optimize hormone levels not just put you in range, a general practitioner prescribed trt would be more what you're referring to, they prescribe just enough to put you in range, which is usually covered by insurance. Hrt clinics there's no insurance that will cover, which is why it's much more expensive and obviously you pay out of pocket.
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Everything is in range, hemoglobin, hematocrit, psa, total cholesterol, ldl, hdl, ast, alt, estradiol, BP 110/70. So he's keeping my dose as is, I've never had to donate blood. Everything is on point, hormone clinics are designed to optimize hormone levels not just put you in range, a general practitioner prescribed trt would be more what you're referring to, they prescribe just enough to put you in range, which is usually covered by insurance. Hrt clinics there's no insurance that will cover, which is why it's much more expensive and obviously you pay out of pocket.
So its basically buying gear legally?
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So its basically buying gear legally?
Pharmacy grade test/arimidex/hcg legally and responsibly.In these hormone clinics if your numbers are out of range especially hemoglobin/hematocrit they'll send you immediately to donate blood and most likely if it's a continuous thing on your labs, they'll lower you dose, just like when I first started at this clinic, they tested me after 6 weeks and my estrogen was high so he upped my arimidex from .5mg a week to 1mg a week.
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How long do you want to live after 60 FFS
im 60 in 18 months its pretty much all downhill from here on in
Dont drink , smoke or take drugs as they knock years off your life
Yes, but only the fucking last ones which are by far the worst
I dont want immigrants dragging me out of bed in a fucking care home when Im 80
The downhill slide starts at 30.
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Yes
He's still keeping my dose the same he called me yesterday after the results came in and asked if I was still on carnivore, I told him yes, he's been suggesting to his patients to adhere to a carnivore or at least an animal based nutrition protocol due to my past 2 labs, everything is in range, my labs are the best of his patients (fasting glucose, hemoglobin, tsh, ast, alt, psa, triglycerides, total cholesterol etc) so he hasn't lowered my dose, but technically he should yes.
The HCG is in such a miniscule amount, is this because of estrogen related sides? Usually it is given at 250iu twice a week.
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Gloryholes Anonymous: A forum covering the trials and tribulations of Primemuscle. (http://primeglory.com/) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/0aaaf093d7a0b5038dff5f735f324ba9/b0526802112a3027-7a/s2048x3072/8bc65142f2b11a42da3c15507f2f22701c17a865.pnj)
EliteFitness is a shell of it's former self. It's glory days are long gone.
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Getbig: A forum covering bodybuilding, fitness, and nutrition discussions. (https://www.getbig.com/boards/)
Could be one of the biggest misrepresentations in message board history.
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Could be one of the biggest misrepresentations in message board history.
...and no mention of Bhanky.
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Gloryholes Anonymous: A forum covering the trials and tribulations of Primemuscle. (http://primeglory.com/) (https://64.media.tumblr.com/0aaaf093d7a0b5038dff5f735f324ba9/b0526802112a3027-7a/s2048x3072/8bc65142f2b11a42da3c15507f2f22701c17a865.pnj) <-------- Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
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^^^ Getbig is by far the best. ^^^
Damn right my brother.......we rule!!