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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Palumboism on April 07, 2024, 12:27:42 PM
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Amusing segment by John Stewart on AI. Google CEO says it will be more important than electricity. How important do you think the impact of AI will be?
At 5:40 Zuckerberg uses it to make toast.
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Ai is just hype words really. Machine learning is a better description and yeah it's gonna be huge. Not quite internet huge, but not far off.
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Ai is just hype words really. Machine learning is a better description and yeah it's gonna be huge. Not quite internet huge, but not far off.
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Ai is just hype words really. Machine learning is a better description and yeah it's gonna be huge. Not quite internet huge, but not far off.
Machine learning is a subset of AI.
I agree with you on the internet being huge.
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Machine learning is a subset of AI.
I agree with you on the internet being huge.
Machine learning is where the real "AI" growth will happen is more what I meant .
Generally though it would be best to stop using the term AI. The whole machines exhibiting any type of human level of intelligence isn't really a thing and won't be a thing for a long time.
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The machine learning stuff makes a lot of grinding forms of IT jobs obsolete. As 100 of those people can be replaced by 10 people overseeing AI.
The same applies for other industries.
Will be great for businesses but the job market is going to change drastically.
It'll be interesting and depressing for a lot of people to see how things go over the next 10 years.
It seems like the best fields for young people to go into nowadays if they want to be wagies is the old fashioned trades. Plumbing etc.
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without Electricity AI doesnt even exist.
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Machine learning is where the real "AI" growth will happen is more what I meant .
Generally though it would be best to stop using the term AI. The whole machines exhibiting any type of human level of intelligence isn't really a thing and won't be a thing for a long time.
You really aren't paying close attention to what's going on. This is moving so quickly right now that human levels of intelligence could be achieve in a few years. more importantly, what happens when it gets to 2X human intelligence, or 3x human intelligence, or 50X human intelligence. All of the big tech companies have their foot on the gas for AI and their are no plans to stop it ever. Is there hype? yes, but there's reason for the hype and they all know it.
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We wouldn’t have AI without electricity, so electricity wins.
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You really aren't paying close attention to what's going on. This is moving so quickly right now that human levels of intelligence could be achieve in a few years. more importantly, what happens when it gets to 2X human intelligence, or 3x human intelligence, or 50X human intelligence. All of the big tech companies have their foot on the gas for AI and their are no plans to stop it ever. Is there hype? yes, but there's reason for the hype and they all know it.
Yeah I'm not paying attention with what's going on. Meanwhile I bought all my "AI" stocks and exposure to the sector several months before Sam Altman made everyone horny with his comments and I am up several 100 percentages.
No bro, I just separated the hype aspects of the sector from the reality, and the reality is the work around machines achieving human levels of intelligence has been a huge failure, and possibly even a grift. But the more people who want to believe this the better as the hype will keep pumping my holdings, so I won't try convince you otherwise.
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Yeah I'm not paying attention with what's going on. Meanwhile I bought all my "AI" stocks and exposure to the sector several months before Sam Altman made everyone horny and I am up several 100 percentages.
No bro, I just separated the hype aspects of the sector from the reality, and the reality is the work around machines achieving human levels of intelligence has been a huge failure, and possibly even a grift. But the more people who want to believe this the better as the hype will keep pumping my holdings, so I won't try convince you otherwise.
How many monitors do you have?
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How many monitors do you have?
1 LCD screen, 1 tablet screen, 1 mobile device for alerts. Sometimes another laptop in sleep mode ready to go in case my main device crashes.
Generally found anyone working with more than 2 screens has some kinda mental health issues.
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1 LCD display, 1 tablet screen, 1 mobile device for alerts. Sometimes another laptop in sleep mode ready to go in case main main device crashes.
Generally found anyone working with more than 2 screens has some kinda mental health issues.
;D
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The machine learning stuff makes a lot of grinding forms of IT jobs obsolete. As 100 of those people can be replaced by 10 people overseeing AI.
The same applies for other industries.
Will be great for businesses but the job market is going to change drastically.
It'll be interesting and depressing for a lot of people to see how things go over the next 10 years.
It seems like the best fields for young people to go into nowadays if they want to be wagies is the old fashioned trades. Plumbing etc.
They should’ve hyped the trades years ago
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Machine learning is where the real "AI" growth will happen is more what I meant .
Generally though it would be best to stop using the term AI. The whole machines exhibiting any type of human level of intelligence isn't really a thing and won't be a thing for a long time.
Also, I think that some people confuse the concept of artificial intelligence with sentience/self-awareness too
We wouldn’t have AI without electricity, so electricity wins.
True - but then again, we wouldn't have electricity without coal and oil, so maybe dinosaurs win ;D
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Yeah I'm not paying attention with what's going on. Meanwhile I bought all my "AI" stocks and exposure to the sector several months before Sam Altman made everyone horny with his comments and I am up several 100 percentages.
No bro, I just separated the hype aspects of the sector from the reality, and the reality is the work around machines achieving human levels of intelligence has been a huge failure, and possibly even a grift. But the more people who want to believe this the better as the hype will keep pumping my holdings, so I won't try convince you otherwise.
How so? People are seeing how intelligent AI is getting and panic is setting in. There is very real fear that potentially millions of jobs could be replaced by AI. Which is exactly the thing John Stewart is making fun of in the video.
I get the fear, but I'm much more hopeful of the opportunities and benefits.
The Tesla FSD videos coming out are shocking to me. What's even more shocking is they've only been using machine learning for FSD for less than a year.
All big tech companies around the world are laser focused on AI.
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You really aren't paying close attention to what's going on. This is moving so quickly right now that human levels of intelligence could be achieve in a few years. more importantly, what happens when it gets to 2X human intelligence, or 3x human intelligence, or 50X human intelligence. All of the big tech companies have their foot on the gas for AI and their are no plans to stop it ever. Is there hype? yes, but there's reason for the hype and they all know it.
AI will never be able to trick smart people but smart people are in the minority so it’s fantastic that we will be able to wipe out libs (even though AI has a liberal bias, which will be its Achilles tendon)
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How so? People are seeing how intelligent AI is getting and panic is setting in. There is very real fear that potentially millions of jobs could be replaced by AI. Which is exactly the thing John Stewart is making fun of in the video.
I get the fear, but I'm much more hopeful of the opportunities and benefits.
The Tesla FSD videos coming out are shocking to me. What's even more shocking is they've only been using machine learning for FSD for less than a year.
All big tech companies around the world are laser focused on AI.
It will be machine learning algos that help replace those jobs.
"AI" is only as intelligent as the set of algos a programmer can write or feed it. The whole self learning, self awareness, human intelligence type stuff some people associate with AI is still a lot closer to science fiction than science fact.
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It will be machine learning algos that help replace those jobs.
"AI" is only as intelligent as the set of algos a programmer can write or feed it. The whole self learning, self awareness, human intelligence type stuff some people associate with AI is still a lot closer to science fiction than science fact.
I think I'm pretty much aligned with your take on this - I've used it to write small bits of code myself and used it as a researcher
But I wonder what will happen once we remove that human input part - the safety catch, so to speak - and close the loop by asking them to code their replacements...
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True - but then again, we wouldn't have electricity without coal and oil, so maybe dinosaurs win ;D
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I think I'm pretty much aligned with your take on this - I've used it to write small bits of code myself and used it as a researcher
What kind of research?
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It will be machine learning algos that help replace those jobs.
"AI" is only as intelligent as the set of algos a programmer can write or feed it. The whole self learning, self awareness, human intelligence type stuff some people associate with AI is still a lot closer to science fiction than science fact.
One of the key differences between machine learning and regular computer program is machine learning requires far less human programming. For example, Windows 11 contains about 50 million lines of code, which are all written by humans. Machine learning requires less than a thousand lines of human code. the key output is the matrix of numbers that are created during the learning process. At it's core, machine learning is based on linear algebra, specifically, matrix multiplication. It's just math, but math that computers excel at. In particular, GPU's are very fast at this kind of math because all graphics just calculating polygons using linear algebra.
The output of machine learning is a large matrix of numbers.
Equally important is the hardware to run the machine learning model on is low cost and simple. Tesla FSD runs on a computer that's basically two Samsung galaxy chips and half a gig of memory. The file containing the matrix is only about 500 megs, it's easy to send over the air updates and every Tesla has the required hardware.
The hardware that does the training is basically thousands of GPU's for gaming. That part of it is expensive and power consuming, but once the training is done, it can be sent out to everyone.
Equally important, the computing power needed to run the
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The hardware that does the training is basically thousands of GPU's for gaming. That part of it is expensive and power consuming, but once the training is done, it can be sent out to everyone.
I tried to touch on this in another thread with someone today.
There are maybe a dozen proof of work projects that have or are setting up the nodes to do this.
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Like most stuff the hype is well ahead of the end consumer application.
I’ve seen it work brilliantly for project management.
I’m still waiting for it to catch up in my field as it’s a pain to feed it datasets and then it’s limited.
The future skill set will be knowing what questions to ask AI. You can’t just rock up and have it do everything, you need to sift through the BS answers it gives you and know specific wording to get to the correct answers. This is something I am personally going to pursue because while I build my models, my skill is knowing what to look for. Once AI can understand the dataset I can ask the questions which will make me 10x quicker than I am at work today. The productivity gains are enormous in my field.
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The machine learning stuff makes a lot of grinding forms of IT jobs obsolete. As 100 of those people can be replaced by 10 people overseeing AI.
The same applies for other industries.
Will be great for businesses but the job market is going to change drastically.
It'll be interesting and depressing for a lot of people to see how things go over the next 10 years.
It seems like the best fields for young people to go into nowadays if they want to be wagies is the old fashioned trades. Plumbing etc.
People were worried about the invention of the cotton gin too. New industry will emerge.
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Tradesmen aren't wagies. They're contractors.
Predictive calculation is a faculty of intellect but designing a machine to perform it doesn't imbue the machine with a mind. Don't anthropomorphize shit. The computer is not alive. It's not intelligent. It's carrying out a program. Y'all believers are the dudes outside Searles chinese room.
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What kind of research?
A mix of Academic and real world applications to be honest - things like summaries of case law, legal frameworks and which specific bits apply, short abstracts to explain methodologies, that sort of thing
One of the key differences between machine learning and regular computer program is machine learning requires far less human programming. For example, Windows 11 contains about 50 million lines of code, which are all written by humans. Machine learning requires less than a thousand lines of human code. the key output is the matrix of numbers that are created during the learning process. At it's core, machine learning is based on linear algebra, specifically, matrix multiplication. It's just math, but math that computers excel at. In particular, GPU's are very fast at this kind of math because all graphics just calculating polygons using linear algebra.
The output of machine learning is a large matrix of numbers.
Equally important is the hardware to run the machine learning model on is low cost and simple. Tesla FSD runs on a computer that's basically two Samsung galaxy chips and half a gig of memory. The file containing the matrix is only about 500 megs, it's easy to send over the air updates and every Tesla has the required hardware.
The hardware that does the training is basically thousands of GPU's for gaming. That part of it is expensive and power consuming, but once the training is done, it can be sent out to everyone.
Yeah I accidentally saw an INVIDIA promo recently - suddenly realised that their (GPU) ability to perform parallel processing was a key reason for their use. (About a hundred years ago I dabbled with OCCAM and ferk me was that complicated!!)
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The machine learning stuff makes a lot of grinding forms of IT jobs obsolete. As 100 of those people can be replaced by 10 people overseeing AI.
This is true, will take some time, but its already starting. We are starting to use it in 'threat detection and mitigation' in our firewalls.
By the time I retire in 4 years, maybe my job will be obsolete. But like IPv6 which was supposed to take over the internet and every company, its used very little so far.
(Except in engineering, dev-ops, etc, it needs to work in every product)... It (IPv6) of course works fine, but people are still reluctant to switch to it fully...
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My money is on CDs for the future.
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My money is on CDs for the future.
DVD's???
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DVD's???
Yea...ok...DVDs can come too.
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My money is on CDs for the future.
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The nice thing about CDs and DVDs is they don't report back to Mark Zuckerberg about what you watched.
People who are getting chubbies over AI should watch the series "Person of Interest" now on Amazon Prime. Probably the best series ever made about government over reach. AI is yet another tool they will use to remove your freedoms.
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Faggotry.
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A mix of Academic and real world applications to be honest - things like summaries of case law, legal frameworks and which specific bits apply, short abstracts to explain methodologies, that sort of thing
There was a guy a while back that asked people due to appear in court to wear hands free sets as listening devices so he could train his AI. He then wanted to use it to fight parking tickets or something. Followed him years ago. Do you know about this and what happened to him?
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The nice thing about CDs and DVDs is they don't report back to Mark Zuckerberg about what you watched.
People who are getting chubbies over AI should watch the series "Person of Interest" now on Amazon Prime. Probably the best series ever made about government over reach. AI is yet another tool they will use to remove your freedoms.
This. They are going to use it to keep you from finding upsetting data or information which doesn't fit their narrative. It will be built into the search engines.