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Amusing segment by John Stewart on AI. Google CEO says it will be more important than electricity. How important do you think the impact of AI will be?
At 5:40 Zuckerberg uses it to make toast.
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Ai is just hype words really. Machine learning is a better description and yeah it's gonna be huge. Not quite internet huge, but not far off.
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Ai is just hype words really. Machine learning is a better description and yeah it's gonna be huge. Not quite internet huge, but not far off.
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Ai is just hype words really. Machine learning is a better description and yeah it's gonna be huge. Not quite internet huge, but not far off.
Machine learning is a subset of AI.
I agree with you on the internet being huge.
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Machine learning is a subset of AI.
I agree with you on the internet being huge.
Machine learning is where the real "AI" growth will happen is more what I meant .
Generally though it would be best to stop using the term AI. The whole machines exhibiting any type of human level of intelligence isn't really a thing and won't be a thing for a long time.
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The machine learning stuff makes a lot of grinding forms of IT jobs obsolete. As 100 of those people can be replaced by 10 people overseeing AI.
The same applies for other industries.
Will be great for businesses but the job market is going to change drastically.
It'll be interesting and depressing for a lot of people to see how things go over the next 10 years.
It seems like the best fields for young people to go into nowadays if they want to be wagies is the old fashioned trades. Plumbing etc.
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without Electricity AI doesnt even exist.
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Machine learning is where the real "AI" growth will happen is more what I meant .
Generally though it would be best to stop using the term AI. The whole machines exhibiting any type of human level of intelligence isn't really a thing and won't be a thing for a long time.
You really aren't paying close attention to what's going on. This is moving so quickly right now that human levels of intelligence could be achieve in a few years. more importantly, what happens when it gets to 2X human intelligence, or 3x human intelligence, or 50X human intelligence. All of the big tech companies have their foot on the gas for AI and their are no plans to stop it ever. Is there hype? yes, but there's reason for the hype and they all know it.
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We wouldn’t have AI without electricity, so electricity wins.
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You really aren't paying close attention to what's going on. This is moving so quickly right now that human levels of intelligence could be achieve in a few years. more importantly, what happens when it gets to 2X human intelligence, or 3x human intelligence, or 50X human intelligence. All of the big tech companies have their foot on the gas for AI and their are no plans to stop it ever. Is there hype? yes, but there's reason for the hype and they all know it.
Yeah I'm not paying attention with what's going on. Meanwhile I bought all my "AI" stocks and exposure to the sector several months before Sam Altman made everyone horny with his comments and I am up several 100 percentages.
No bro, I just separated the hype aspects of the sector from the reality, and the reality is the work around machines achieving human levels of intelligence has been a huge failure, and possibly even a grift. But the more people who want to believe this the better as the hype will keep pumping my holdings, so I won't try convince you otherwise.
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Yeah I'm not paying attention with what's going on. Meanwhile I bought all my "AI" stocks and exposure to the sector several months before Sam Altman made everyone horny and I am up several 100 percentages.
No bro, I just separated the hype aspects of the sector from the reality, and the reality is the work around machines achieving human levels of intelligence has been a huge failure, and possibly even a grift. But the more people who want to believe this the better as the hype will keep pumping my holdings, so I won't try convince you otherwise.
How many monitors do you have?
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How many monitors do you have?
1 LCD screen, 1 tablet screen, 1 mobile device for alerts. Sometimes another laptop in sleep mode ready to go in case my main device crashes.
Generally found anyone working with more than 2 screens has some kinda mental health issues.
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1 LCD display, 1 tablet screen, 1 mobile device for alerts. Sometimes another laptop in sleep mode ready to go in case main main device crashes.
Generally found anyone working with more than 2 screens has some kinda mental health issues.
;D
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The machine learning stuff makes a lot of grinding forms of IT jobs obsolete. As 100 of those people can be replaced by 10 people overseeing AI.
The same applies for other industries.
Will be great for businesses but the job market is going to change drastically.
It'll be interesting and depressing for a lot of people to see how things go over the next 10 years.
It seems like the best fields for young people to go into nowadays if they want to be wagies is the old fashioned trades. Plumbing etc.
They should’ve hyped the trades years ago
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Machine learning is where the real "AI" growth will happen is more what I meant .
Generally though it would be best to stop using the term AI. The whole machines exhibiting any type of human level of intelligence isn't really a thing and won't be a thing for a long time.
Also, I think that some people confuse the concept of artificial intelligence with sentience/self-awareness too
We wouldn’t have AI without electricity, so electricity wins.
True - but then again, we wouldn't have electricity without coal and oil, so maybe dinosaurs win ;D
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Yeah I'm not paying attention with what's going on. Meanwhile I bought all my "AI" stocks and exposure to the sector several months before Sam Altman made everyone horny with his comments and I am up several 100 percentages.
No bro, I just separated the hype aspects of the sector from the reality, and the reality is the work around machines achieving human levels of intelligence has been a huge failure, and possibly even a grift. But the more people who want to believe this the better as the hype will keep pumping my holdings, so I won't try convince you otherwise.
How so? People are seeing how intelligent AI is getting and panic is setting in. There is very real fear that potentially millions of jobs could be replaced by AI. Which is exactly the thing John Stewart is making fun of in the video.
I get the fear, but I'm much more hopeful of the opportunities and benefits.
The Tesla FSD videos coming out are shocking to me. What's even more shocking is they've only been using machine learning for FSD for less than a year.
All big tech companies around the world are laser focused on AI.
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You really aren't paying close attention to what's going on. This is moving so quickly right now that human levels of intelligence could be achieve in a few years. more importantly, what happens when it gets to 2X human intelligence, or 3x human intelligence, or 50X human intelligence. All of the big tech companies have their foot on the gas for AI and their are no plans to stop it ever. Is there hype? yes, but there's reason for the hype and they all know it.
AI will never be able to trick smart people but smart people are in the minority so it’s fantastic that we will be able to wipe out libs (even though AI has a liberal bias, which will be its Achilles tendon)
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How so? People are seeing how intelligent AI is getting and panic is setting in. There is very real fear that potentially millions of jobs could be replaced by AI. Which is exactly the thing John Stewart is making fun of in the video.
I get the fear, but I'm much more hopeful of the opportunities and benefits.
The Tesla FSD videos coming out are shocking to me. What's even more shocking is they've only been using machine learning for FSD for less than a year.
All big tech companies around the world are laser focused on AI.
It will be machine learning algos that help replace those jobs.
"AI" is only as intelligent as the set of algos a programmer can write or feed it. The whole self learning, self awareness, human intelligence type stuff some people associate with AI is still a lot closer to science fiction than science fact.
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It will be machine learning algos that help replace those jobs.
"AI" is only as intelligent as the set of algos a programmer can write or feed it. The whole self learning, self awareness, human intelligence type stuff some people associate with AI is still a lot closer to science fiction than science fact.
I think I'm pretty much aligned with your take on this - I've used it to write small bits of code myself and used it as a researcher
But I wonder what will happen once we remove that human input part - the safety catch, so to speak - and close the loop by asking them to code their replacements...
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True - but then again, we wouldn't have electricity without coal and oil, so maybe dinosaurs win ;D
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/007/630/conspiracykeanu.jpg)
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I think I'm pretty much aligned with your take on this - I've used it to write small bits of code myself and used it as a researcher
What kind of research?
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It will be machine learning algos that help replace those jobs.
"AI" is only as intelligent as the set of algos a programmer can write or feed it. The whole self learning, self awareness, human intelligence type stuff some people associate with AI is still a lot closer to science fiction than science fact.
One of the key differences between machine learning and regular computer program is machine learning requires far less human programming. For example, Windows 11 contains about 50 million lines of code, which are all written by humans. Machine learning requires less than a thousand lines of human code. the key output is the matrix of numbers that are created during the learning process. At it's core, machine learning is based on linear algebra, specifically, matrix multiplication. It's just math, but math that computers excel at. In particular, GPU's are very fast at this kind of math because all graphics just calculating polygons using linear algebra.
The output of machine learning is a large matrix of numbers.
Equally important is the hardware to run the machine learning model on is low cost and simple. Tesla FSD runs on a computer that's basically two Samsung galaxy chips and half a gig of memory. The file containing the matrix is only about 500 megs, it's easy to send over the air updates and every Tesla has the required hardware.
The hardware that does the training is basically thousands of GPU's for gaming. That part of it is expensive and power consuming, but once the training is done, it can be sent out to everyone.
Equally important, the computing power needed to run the
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The hardware that does the training is basically thousands of GPU's for gaming. That part of it is expensive and power consuming, but once the training is done, it can be sent out to everyone.
I tried to touch on this in another thread with someone today.
There are maybe a dozen proof of work projects that have or are setting up the nodes to do this.
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Like most stuff the hype is well ahead of the end consumer application.
I’ve seen it work brilliantly for project management.
I’m still waiting for it to catch up in my field as it’s a pain to feed it datasets and then it’s limited.
The future skill set will be knowing what questions to ask AI. You can’t just rock up and have it do everything, you need to sift through the BS answers it gives you and know specific wording to get to the correct answers. This is something I am personally going to pursue because while I build my models, my skill is knowing what to look for. Once AI can understand the dataset I can ask the questions which will make me 10x quicker than I am at work today. The productivity gains are enormous in my field.
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The machine learning stuff makes a lot of grinding forms of IT jobs obsolete. As 100 of those people can be replaced by 10 people overseeing AI.
The same applies for other industries.
Will be great for businesses but the job market is going to change drastically.
It'll be interesting and depressing for a lot of people to see how things go over the next 10 years.
It seems like the best fields for young people to go into nowadays if they want to be wagies is the old fashioned trades. Plumbing etc.
People were worried about the invention of the cotton gin too. New industry will emerge.
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Tradesmen aren't wagies. They're contractors.
Predictive calculation is a faculty of intellect but designing a machine to perform it doesn't imbue the machine with a mind. Don't anthropomorphize shit. The computer is not alive. It's not intelligent. It's carrying out a program. Y'all believers are the dudes outside Searles chinese room.
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What kind of research?
A mix of Academic and real world applications to be honest - things like summaries of case law, legal frameworks and which specific bits apply, short abstracts to explain methodologies, that sort of thing
One of the key differences between machine learning and regular computer program is machine learning requires far less human programming. For example, Windows 11 contains about 50 million lines of code, which are all written by humans. Machine learning requires less than a thousand lines of human code. the key output is the matrix of numbers that are created during the learning process. At it's core, machine learning is based on linear algebra, specifically, matrix multiplication. It's just math, but math that computers excel at. In particular, GPU's are very fast at this kind of math because all graphics just calculating polygons using linear algebra.
The output of machine learning is a large matrix of numbers.
Equally important is the hardware to run the machine learning model on is low cost and simple. Tesla FSD runs on a computer that's basically two Samsung galaxy chips and half a gig of memory. The file containing the matrix is only about 500 megs, it's easy to send over the air updates and every Tesla has the required hardware.
The hardware that does the training is basically thousands of GPU's for gaming. That part of it is expensive and power consuming, but once the training is done, it can be sent out to everyone.
Yeah I accidentally saw an INVIDIA promo recently - suddenly realised that their (GPU) ability to perform parallel processing was a key reason for their use. (About a hundred years ago I dabbled with OCCAM and ferk me was that complicated!!)
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The machine learning stuff makes a lot of grinding forms of IT jobs obsolete. As 100 of those people can be replaced by 10 people overseeing AI.
This is true, will take some time, but its already starting. We are starting to use it in 'threat detection and mitigation' in our firewalls.
By the time I retire in 4 years, maybe my job will be obsolete. But like IPv6 which was supposed to take over the internet and every company, its used very little so far.
(Except in engineering, dev-ops, etc, it needs to work in every product)... It (IPv6) of course works fine, but people are still reluctant to switch to it fully...
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My money is on CDs for the future.
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My money is on CDs for the future.
DVD's???
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DVD's???
Yea...ok...DVDs can come too.
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My money is on CDs for the future.
(https://bx.cwa.sellercloud.com/images/products/722811.jpg)
The nice thing about CDs and DVDs is they don't report back to Mark Zuckerberg about what you watched.
People who are getting chubbies over AI should watch the series "Person of Interest" now on Amazon Prime. Probably the best series ever made about government over reach. AI is yet another tool they will use to remove your freedoms.
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Faggotry.
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A mix of Academic and real world applications to be honest - things like summaries of case law, legal frameworks and which specific bits apply, short abstracts to explain methodologies, that sort of thing
There was a guy a while back that asked people due to appear in court to wear hands free sets as listening devices so he could train his AI. He then wanted to use it to fight parking tickets or something. Followed him years ago. Do you know about this and what happened to him?
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The nice thing about CDs and DVDs is they don't report back to Mark Zuckerberg about what you watched.
People who are getting chubbies over AI should watch the series "Person of Interest" now on Amazon Prime. Probably the best series ever made about government over reach. AI is yet another tool they will use to remove your freedoms.
This. They are going to use it to keep you from finding upsetting data or information which doesn't fit their narrative. It will be built into the search engines.
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54% of Banking jobs to be cut from AI and increased profits in sector.
https://www.businessinsider.com/ai-could-automate-more-than-half-of-banking-jobs-citi-2024-6?amp
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This won't go well for humans...
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/ai-and-future-warfare/
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The future skill set will be knowing what questions to ask AI. You can’t just rock up and have it do everything, you need to sift through the BS answers it gives you and know specific wording to get to the correct answers. This is something I am personally going to pursue because while I build my models, my skill is knowing what to look for. Once AI can understand the dataset I can ask the questions which will make me 10x quicker than I am at work today. The productivity gains are enormous in my field.
This is more or less my understanding of the tech.
While I think we're globally fucked, I think this tech won't be our downfall. We're going through some newbie gains with the most recent gen of tech but I think reality has a natural way of adjusting to things.
You talk to anyone in any field, and they'll tell you that 99% of possible work is never even attempted because of cost.
Lawyers for example, most people can't afford a lawyer and end up getting one only when desperate. Low cost AI might mean having a lawyer is like having a hairdresser. Everyone can easily afford some time on legal advice/planning etc.
In terms of housing construction/cars etc, there's no reason a home/car can't be custom made and designed for each buyer.
It's perfectly reasonable to assume cars 25 years from now will all be custom makes.
The beauty of consumerism is that people having no limits to their greed, the more machines offer to us the more we want. Even if a lot of jobs like Lawyering/accounting etc turn into more customer service jobs it'll keep going.
In any economy jobs rise and fall. Some people will have to look for work elsewhere, but that's one of the perks of AI. AI can replace your job in just a few weeks, but it can also train you in on a brand new job just as quickly.
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Only a matter of time before AI replaces human fine artists, graphic designers, musicians etc. Kind of sad IMO. Record companies and artists are suing AI companies that have been trained on their content....It's here (and not all of it is bad) but using AI at work makes me uneasy, some of it is unreal.. the speed, variety and quality it generates will blow your mind. It's kind of like steroids in sport. Game changer.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/06/24/suno-lawsuit-udio-sony-warner-umg-copyright/
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Bunch of hype
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AI is a means to an end; a tool - among others... manifested – pulled from the abyss - for the subjugation and fundamental transformation of a divinely created man into an irredeemable, short lived abomination... before extermination - resulting in damnation.
humanity is on the highway to hell.. look around.
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I've struggled with some of the morality around AI recently, to wit: just how much of a loser move is it to crack one off to women that don't exist?🤔
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Asking for a friend...
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Like most tech the hype comes early. Perhaps post 2030 it’s in your face everyday 🤔
Displaced white collar suggests more manual labour jobs but I dunno how the wealth gap would be prevented from massively widening.
IMO Huge recession in 2040-2042 as AI makes the first crack of our current way of life and we have no instant solution for unemployment.
I think we have way more time than the hype suggests to see a dramatic shift. People make out like it was 2022…. Then 2023…. Then 2024….. they have no idea in reality, just bad guessers.
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I'll just tuck this little Easter Egg here as well - link is safe and safe for work
https://streamable.com/bkcz7u (https://streamable.com/bkcz7u)
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OK just one more! ;D
https://streamable.com/94azrn (https://streamable.com/94azrn)
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How so? People are seeing how intelligent AI is getting and panic is setting in. There is very real fear that potentially millions of jobs could be replaced by AI. Which is exactly the thing John Stewart is making fun of in the video.
I get the fear, but I'm much more hopeful of the opportunities and benefits.
The Tesla FSD videos coming out are shocking to me. What's even more shocking is they've only been using machine learning for FSD for less than a year.
All big tech companies around the world are laser focused on AI.
You take two data points and then draw a straight line to infinity.
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I'll just tuck this little Easter Egg here as well - link is safe and safe for work
https://streamable.com/bkcz7u (https://streamable.com/bkcz7u)
Will need a squeakier voice for the future french toast clip ;D
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I've struggled with some of the morality around AI recently, to wit: just how much of a loser move is it to crack one off to women that don't exist?🤔
Some great creations there Taffy!
Soon we will use ai as blueprints for those sexdoll androids!
Like 3d-printer but better :D
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54% of Banking jobs to be cut from AI and increased profits in sector.
https://www.businessinsider.com/ai-could-automate-more-than-half-of-banking-jobs-citi-2024-6?amp
Good news!
I trust AI more than the countless number of highly corrupt bankers. They hire all those lobbyists to further corrupt politicians.
Good riddance if AI can remove more than half of them.
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Will need a squeakier voice for the future french toast clip ;D
Duly noted Mister :D
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OK just one more! ;D
https://streamable.com/94azrn (https://streamable.com/94azrn)
The second one has a more appropriate sounding voice.
The first one is too deep of a voice.
Might as well put a whole head of hair on his head too with that one.
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Yeah I'm not paying attention with what's going on. Meanwhile I bought all my "AI" stocks and exposure to the sector several months before Sam Altman made everyone horny with his comments and I am up several 100 percentages.
No bro, I just separated the hype aspects of the sector from the reality, and the reality is the work around machines achieving human levels of intelligence has been a huge failure, and possibly even a grift. But the more people who want to believe this the better as the hype will keep pumping my holdings, so I won't try convince you otherwise.
Pretty close to changing my view on this. 2025 could be the year we see the first signs...
The Ai hype cycle has barely started!
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AI is just bad plagiarism
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AI is just bad plagiarism
Here is what ChatGPT had to say about your LSAT debacle:
I did not realize there was an answer 'e' option on my test. I did not know to scroll lower to see that answer option. How can I avoid this mistake in the future?
It’s easy to miss additional options like that! Here are some strategies to avoid this in the future:
- Preview the Full Question: When you open a question, quickly scroll down to see if there are extra answer choices beyond what’s immediately visible.
- Check for Scroll Bars: Keep an eye on any vertical scroll bars in the answer section. If one appears, it means there’s more content below that may not be immediately visible.
- Practice Test Setup: If you're using an online testing platform, familiarize yourself with its layout and options. For example, on many tests, a scroll bar or arrow icon usually indicates additional content.
- Use a Larger Screen: If possible, take tests on a larger screen where the entire interface may be easier to view in one glance.
- Quick Pre-Scan of Answers: Before selecting an answer, quickly skim all options to be sure you’ve seen everything, especially if the format suggests there might be several options.
These small adjustments can help ensure you don’t miss any hidden answer choices!
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Here is what ChatGPT had to say about your LSAT debacle:
It’s easy to miss additional options like that! Here are some strategies to avoid this in the future:
- Preview the Full Question: When you open a question, quickly scroll down to see if there are extra answer choices beyond what’s immediately visible.
- Check for Scroll Bars: Keep an eye on any vertical scroll bars in the answer section. If one appears, it means there’s more content below that may not be immediately visible.
- Practice Test Setup: If you're using an online testing platform, familiarize yourself with its layout and options. For example, on many tests, a scroll bar or arrow icon usually indicates additional content.
- Use a Larger Screen: If possible, take tests on a larger screen where the entire interface may be easier to view in one glance.
- Quick Pre-Scan of Answers: Before selecting an answer, quickly skim all options to be sure you’ve seen everything, especially if the format suggests there might be several options.
These small adjustments can help ensure you don’t miss any hidden answer choices!
But it didn't say that it just googled what has been said by others changed some words and stuck it together aka bad plagiarism it cannot think for itself a toddler is smarter. AI has no new ideas
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But it didn't say that it just googled what has been said by others changed some words and stuck it together aka bad plagiarism it cannot think for itself a toddler is smarter. AI has no new ideas
You are correct. This is basically where things stand now, but the past 6 months I've been around big brained Ai researchers and developers and the next gen stuff they got lined up is crazy.
It's AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) and the crossover with blockchain tech where the fireworks will really happen. Also some of these crazy fuckers behind this stuff have zero issues releasing these AGIs into the wild.
Elons desire for to get some humans off Earth over his concerns about AGIs probably wasn't just paranoia.
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But it didn't say that it just googled what has been said by others changed some words and stuck it together aka bad plagiarism it cannot think for itself a toddler is smarter. AI has no new ideas
Ai would have scrolled down
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Ai would have scrolled down
;D
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You are correct. This is basically where things stand now, but the past 6 months I've been around big brained Ai researchers and developers and the next gen stuff they got lined up is crazy.
It's AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) and the crossover with blockchain tech where the fireworks will really happen. Also some of these crazy fuckers behind this stuff have zero issues releasing these AGIs into the wild.
Elons desire for to get some humans off Earth over his concerns about AGIs probably wasn't just paranoia.
I also have to believe, that just like most other technology, the public sees/ gets access to 15-20 year old tech.
So just imagine what they could be working on behind the scenes, if this is what they are showing the public now.
There's probably shit that will blow your mind (not just the sex robots) in these black ops facilities and labs
These wonky looking, and janky moving robots, are just to placate our curiosity.