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Title: Woman's Conviction for 1980 Murder Is Overturned — and Judge Believes Cop Did It
Post by: Dos Equis on June 20, 2024, 08:53:17 PM
Crazy story.  How can they possibly compensate that woman for wrongfully spending most of her life in prison?

Woman's Conviction for 1980 Murder Is Overturned — and Judge Believes Cop Did It
The judge called Sandra Hemme — incarcerated for 43 years and still behind bars — "the victim of a manifest injustice"
By Emily Palmer  Published on June 17, 2024
https://people.com/sandra-hemme-woman-conviction-murder-overturned-judge-believes-cop-did-it-8664950
Title: Re: Woman's Conviction for 1980 Murder Is Overturned — and Judge Believes Cop Did It
Post by: illuminati on June 20, 2024, 09:30:49 PM
Crazy story.  How can they possibly compensate that woman for wrongfully spending most of her life in prison?

Woman's Conviction for 1980 Murder Is Overturned — and Judge Believes Cop Did It
The judge called Sandra Hemme — incarcerated for 43 years and still behind bars — "the victim of a manifest injustice"
By Emily Palmer  Published on June 17, 2024
https://people.com/sandra-hemme-woman-conviction-murder-overturned-judge-believes-cop-did-it-8664950

Damn - from that article it appears the cops in that area liked to go after the wrong person
& get them convicted. 🤬🤬🤬
Title: Re: Woman's Conviction for 1980 Murder Is Overturned — and Judge Believes Cop Did It
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 21, 2024, 12:40:21 AM
I'd be homicidal when I got out.
Title: Re: Woman's Conviction for 1980 Murder Is Overturned — and Judge Believes Cop Did It
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 21, 2024, 02:19:00 PM
Crazy story.  How can they possibly compensate that woman for wrongfully spending most of her life in prison?

Woman's Conviction for 1980 Murder Is Overturned — and Judge Believes Cop Did It
The judge called Sandra Hemme — incarcerated for 43 years and still behind bars — "the victim of a manifest injustice"
By Emily Palmer  Published on June 17, 2024
https://people.com/sandra-hemme-woman-conviction-murder-overturned-judge-believes-cop-did-it-8664950

Hate to say it but she might be better off just staying in. 43 years of being institutionalized would be difficult for her to make it on the outside
Title: Re: Woman's Conviction for 1980 Murder Is Overturned — and Judge Believes Cop Did It
Post by: AbrahamG on June 21, 2024, 09:21:31 PM
Hate to say it but she might be better off just staying in. 43 years of being institutionalized would be difficult for her to make it on the outside

I totally get what your saying.  Stories like this are so infuriating.  Can't even begin to imagine what she's feeling. 
Title: Re: Woman's Conviction for 1980 Murder Is Overturned — and Judge Believes Cop Did It
Post by: Dos Equis on June 24, 2024, 12:10:00 PM
Hate to say it but she might be better off just staying in. 43 years of being institutionalized would be difficult for her to make it on the outside

I guess it partly depends on how much she will be compensated. 
Title: Re: Woman's Conviction for 1980 Murder Is Overturned — and Judge Believes Cop Did It
Post by: Skeletor on June 24, 2024, 12:19:20 PM
I guess it partly depends on how much she will be compensated.

There are way too many cases like this. How much can you compensate someone who spent all these years in prison unjustly? In many cases the states have passed laws to limit the amount they pay to unjustly incarcerated people so they may end up with very little money. But why should the taxpayers foot the bill once again? The cop in this case is dead (others involved who aided and abetted or covered up for him may be alive though) but even if he was alive he would not be sent to prison or pay anything out of his pocket.
Title: Re: Woman's Conviction for 1980 Murder Is Overturned — and Judge Believes Cop Did It
Post by: Dos Equis on June 24, 2024, 12:25:36 PM
There are way too many cases like this. How much can you compensate someone who spent all these years in prison unjustly? In many cases the states have passed laws to limit the amount they pay to unjustly incarcerated people so they may end up with very little money. But why should the taxpayers foot the bill once again? The cop in this case is dead (others involved who aided and abetted or covered up for him may be alive though) but even if he was alive he would not be sent to prison or pay anything out of his pocket.

I hear you.  The problem is when these people (prosecutors, law enforcement, etc.) do bad things, the government is held responsible.  The government = taxpayers.  I don't mind the use of my tax dollars to compensate someone like this lady. 
Title: Re: Woman's Conviction for 1980 Murder Is Overturned — and Judge Believes Cop Did It
Post by: Skeletor on June 24, 2024, 12:31:32 PM
I hear you.  The problem is when these people (prosecutors, law enforcement, etc.) do bad things, the government is held responsible.  The government = taxpayers.  I don't mind the use of my tax dollars to compensate someone like this lady.

The government is not always held responsible, they often get away with crimes. But we need to hold these people personally liable.
Title: Re: Woman's Conviction for 1980 Murder Is Overturned — and Judge Believes Cop Did It
Post by: Dos Equis on June 24, 2024, 12:39:14 PM
The government is not always held responsible, they often get away with crimes. But we need to hold these people personally liable.

I agree. 

That said, holding government officials personally liable doesn't solve the compensation problem if they don't have the money or assets to pay.
Title: Re: Woman's Conviction for 1980 Murder Is Overturned — and Judge Believes Cop Did It
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 25, 2024, 12:22:18 AM
There are way too many cases like this. How much can you compensate someone who spent all these years in prison unjustly? In many cases the states have passed laws to limit the amount they pay to unjustly incarcerated people so they may end up with very little money. But why should the taxpayers foot the bill once again? The cop in this case is dead (others involved who aided and abetted or covered up for him may be alive though) but even if he was alive he would not be sent to prison or pay anything out of his pocket.
Cape Fear showed how to deal with it. ;D
Title: Re: Woman's Conviction for 1980 Murder Is Overturned — and Judge Believes Cop Did It
Post by: Skeletor on June 25, 2024, 11:08:11 AM
I agree. 

That said, holding government officials personally liable doesn't solve the compensation problem if they don't have the money or assets to pay.

There are ways. Sending them to prison or executing them would be a start. They currently raid all the taxpayers for something only a few criminals did, why not start raiding their collective pension fund or their union's coffers? Maybe this way the other cops/prosecutors/govt officials will be more proactive in preventing these incidents instead of being complicit and covering up the crimes of their colleagues.
Title: Re: Woman's Conviction for 1980 Murder Is Overturned — and Judge Believes Cop Did It
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 26, 2024, 12:46:01 AM
There are ways. Sending them to prison or executing them would be a start. They currently raid all the taxpayers for something only a few criminals did, why not start raiding their collective pension fund or their union's coffers? Maybe this way the other cops/prosecutors/govt officials will be more proactive in preventing these incidents instead of being complicit and covering up the crimes of their colleagues.
Good idea.
Title: Re: Woman's Conviction for 1980 Murder Is Overturned — and Judge Believes Cop Did It
Post by: Dos Equis on July 22, 2024, 10:44:57 AM
Missouri woman who served 43 years in prison is free after her murder conviction was overturned
A woman whose murder conviction was overturned after she served 43 years in prison is now free, despite objections from Missouri’s attorney general
By HEATHER HOLLINGSWORTH Associated Press and JIM SALTER Associated Press
July 19, 2024
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/courts-agree-woman-deemed-wrongfully-convicted-freed-isnt-112106794
Title: Re: Woman's Conviction for 1980 Murder Is Overturned — and Judge Believes Cop Did It
Post by: illuminati on July 22, 2024, 03:13:48 PM
There are ways. Sending them to prison or executing them would be a start. They currently raid all the taxpayers for something only a few criminals did, why not start raiding their collective pension fund or their union's coffers? Maybe this way the other cops/prosecutors/govt officials will be more proactive in preventing these incidents instead of being complicit and covering up the crimes of their colleagues.

Spot on - Excellent points.