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Title: US owns 10% of intel
Post by: Necrosis on August 24, 2025, 10:26:19 AM
good ol socialist ussa!

Title: Re: US owns 10% of intel
Post by: chaos on August 24, 2025, 11:37:08 AM
Lame thread. Completely void of information and substance, would not read again.
Title: Re: US owns 10% of intel
Post by: Necrosis on August 24, 2025, 12:22:03 PM
I haven't figured out how to post links yet.
Title: Re: US owns 10% of intel
Post by: IroNat on August 24, 2025, 01:14:40 PM
I haven't figured out how to post links yet.

Just copy and paste right into your reply.

What Communist country do you live in?
Title: Re: US owns 10% of intel
Post by: Necrosis on August 24, 2025, 02:33:18 PM
Just copy and paste right into your reply.

What Communist country do you live in?

I live in comoros.

You hating on comoros?
Title: Re: US owns 10% of intel
Post by: chaos on August 24, 2025, 02:35:18 PM
I live in comoros.

You hating on comoros?
Yes, fuck those little islands!
Title: Re: US owns 10% of intel
Post by: jude2 on August 24, 2025, 07:09:03 PM
The US was going to give Intel monies without anything in return.  Trump caught this and said no free money.  We give you money and you have to give us stock in return.  Now the US is the biggest owner of intel. Trump continues to win.
Title: Re: US owns 10% of intel
Post by: Necrosis on August 25, 2025, 12:19:05 AM
The US was going to give Intel monies without anything in return.  Trump caught this and said no free money.  We give you money and you have to give us stock in return.  Now the US is the biggest owner of intel. Trump continues to win.

It's socialism by definition.

They were providing semiconductors and the grant was for R and D which has a huge return on investment as intel is truly the only company in the US doing that on that level.

I am not necessarily against it, it's just counter to free enterprise

Title: Re: US owns 10% of intel
Post by: B_B_C on August 25, 2025, 08:41:55 AM
It's socialism by definition.



I doubt that   its not clear what public interest is being served

Taking unnecessary equity stakes in private companies is opportunism — not strategic state capitalism
Title: Re: US owns 10% of intel
Post by: Necrosis on August 25, 2025, 09:02:41 AM
I doubt that   its not clear what public interest is being served

Taking unnecessary equity stakes in private companies is opportunism — not strategic state capitalism

Ya intel is killing it! year over year losses, seems like a great investment!

The government using taxpayer money to buy shares in a company isn't socialism!
Title: Re: US owns 10% of intel
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 25, 2025, 11:13:15 AM
good ol socialist ussa!

Some people are saying taking a 10% stake for taxpayers in exchange for our financial help is socialism. It's the opposite. In capitalism, if you invest in a company you get equity. It's really that simple.
Title: Re: US owns 10% of intel
Post by: Necrosis on August 25, 2025, 11:20:51 AM
Some people are saying taking a 10% stake for taxpayers in exchange for our financial help is socialism. It's the opposite. In capitalism, if you invest in a company you get equity. It's really that simple.

Not when its pooled resources. What if someone doesn't want their tax payer money used to buy shares in a failing tech company? They just diluted their shareholders as well, probably forced into doing so after the grant was approved. Insanity.


There is nothing capitalistic about this, it's by definition socialist. Now I am not against it per se. Just pointing it out.

He just passed another EO that says burning the american flag is a crime, a year in jail he said. Are you fine with this guy just telling you whatever he thinks goes? despite the fact that he is shitting on the constitution. Burning the flag is the right way to dispose of the flag, technically, plus its a protected form of free speech.

It sounds like he is turning you guys into an authoritarian country.
Title: Re: US owns 10% of intel
Post by: Necrosis on August 25, 2025, 12:49:08 PM
that would mean every country in the world is into socialism

How so?

I would in fact argue that pure capitalism is a phantom and is not truly practiced anywhere. We are probably more in a technocracy than anything currently, or at least heading in that direction. Capitalism has certainly been internalized as the superego in most folks, simply look at hustle culture and the championing of vita activa at all costs, even one's health.

Pooling resources to buy private company stock is a purely socialist move, not that I disagree with it. I think a fiscally responsible government could actually make some very shrewd investments with pooled capital and make some serious waves, but its not capitalism in essence.
Title: Re: US owns 10% of intel
Post by: B_B_C on August 25, 2025, 01:19:05 PM
How so?

I would in fact argue that pure capitalism is a phantom and is not truly practiced anywhere. We are probably more in a technocracy than anything currently, or at least heading in that direction. Capitalism has certainly been internalized as the superego in most folks, simply look at hustle culture and the championing of vita activa at all costs, even one's health.

Pooling resources to buy private company stock is a purely socialist move, not that I disagree with it. I think a fiscally responsible government could actually make some very shrewd investments with pooled capital and make some serious waves, but its not capitalism in essence.

You are Right and you will do very well on this site with all the others who are always right
Title: Re: US owns 10% of intel
Post by: Necrosis on August 25, 2025, 01:23:41 PM
You are Right and you will do very well on this site with all the others who are always right

Thank you very much.
Title: Re: US owns 10% of intel
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 25, 2025, 02:24:07 PM
Not when its pooled resources. What if someone doesn't want their tax payer money used to buy shares in a failing tech company? They just diluted their shareholders as well, probably forced into doing so after the grant was approved. Insanity.

Lord gave mercy :-\

There is nothing capitalistic about this, it's by definition socialist. Now I am not against it per se. Just pointing it out.

He just passed another EO that says burning the american flag is a crime, a year in jail he said. Are you fine with this guy just telling you whatever he thinks goes? despite the fact that he is shitting on the constitution. Burning the flag is the right way to dispose of the flag, technically, plus its a protected form of free speech.

It sounds like he is turning you guys into an authoritarian country.

Only liberals would be against jail time for desecrating the American flag while caling for jail time for burning an LGBTQ flag. Twisted thinking.
Title: Re: US owns 10% of intel
Post by: Grape Ape on August 25, 2025, 03:16:11 PM
Only liberals would be against jail time for desecrating the American flag while caling for jail time for burning an LGBTQ flag. Twisted thinking.

While I like the spirit of it, I disagree with passing this EO.

Feels too infringe-y on the FA.

Title: Re: US owns 10% of intel
Post by: Necrosis on August 25, 2025, 03:46:22 PM
Only liberals would be against jail time for desecrating the American flag while caling for jail time for burning an LGBTQ flag. Twisted thinking.

I am a centrist, I did not say anything about LGBTQ or whatever.

You should not get fucking jailtime for burning the flag ffs lolol what is this nazi germany? burn all the flags, the fag flags, the nazi flags, american etc its free speech. You can't start taking away rights.
Title: Re: US owns 10% of intel
Post by: Necrosis on August 25, 2025, 03:47:49 PM
While I like the spirit of it, I disagree with passing this EO.

Feels too infringe-y on the FA.

It's a clear violation and a slippery slope. You gonna jail a veteran for burning the flag if he feels he hasn't been taken care of properly?

Coach is team Right, no matter what!
Title: Re: US owns 10% of intel
Post by: Grape Ape on August 25, 2025, 05:08:06 PM
It's a clear violation and a slippery slope. You gonna jail a veteran for burning the flag if he feels he hasn't been taken care of properly?

Coach is team Right, no matter what!

Coach does not hide his political affiliation. But his point about it being illegal to burn one kind of flag but not the American flag is a valid point as well.  Like I said, I don’t like flag burning, but I support the right to do it under the first amendment - however, you gotta treat them all equally.
Title: Re: US owns 10% of intel
Post by: Primemuscle on August 25, 2025, 06:01:13 PM
Coach does not hide his political affiliation. But his point about it being illegal to burn one kind of flag but not the American flag is a valid point as well.  Like I said, I don’t like flag burning, but I support the right to do it under the first amendment - however, you gotta treat them all equally.

Like you, I also support the First amendment. BTW, Coach is mistaken, it is not illegal to burn a LGBTQ or Pride flag.
Title: Re: US owns 10% of intel
Post by: illuminati on August 25, 2025, 06:07:02 PM
Let's hope all queer & gbltqzxvkg Flags are Burnt all over the world,
Get rid of the Stupid things.

Title: Re: US owns 10% of intel
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 25, 2025, 06:31:16 PM
True Patriots don’t burn or desecrate the American flag. It’s why we don’t let it touch the ground when handling it. It’s why there’s a certain way of folding it and displaying it. It’s why we give the American flag to our fallen soldiers and service members that have passed away.

The only ones that burn and desecrate the flag are the same ones that are against our freedoms and this country. That being said, yes, they should be prosecuted.

Prime.. Hate crime laws: If the act is intended to intimidate or target a protected group, it could be prosecuted as a hate crime in some jurisdictions, depending on local laws and the context (e.g., burning an LGBTQ flag outside a community center with threatening intent). This law alone is hypocritical
Title: Re: US owns 10% of intel
Post by: Primemuscle on August 25, 2025, 07:17:47 PM
True Patriots don’t burn or desecrate the American flag. It’s why we don’t let it touch the ground when handling it. It’s why there’s a certain way of folding it and displaying it. It’s why we give the American flag to our fallen soldiers and service members that have passed away.

The only ones that burn and desecrate the flag are the same ones that are against our freedoms and this country. That being said, yes, they should be prosecuted.

Prime.. Hate crime laws: If the act is intended to intimidate or target a protected group, it could be prosecuted as a hate crime in some jurisdictions, depending on local laws and the context (e.g., burning an LGBTQ flag outside a community center with threatening intent). This law alone is hypocritical

Based on your logic, true patriots never protest. But then, anyone whose political views differ from yours is not a patriot in your mind. In fact, you have repeatedly called us communists, and worse.

Flag desecration, is an act which has been ruled as protected free speech by the Supreme Court. Which Trump's OA does not address. Therefore, his OA violates First Amendment rights and the rule of the Supreme Court.

It is no surprise to me that you find these hate crime laws hypocritical.

Burning the flag and desecrating it are not the same thing. Note: Trump's OA does not alter the U.S. Flag Code, which endorses dignified burning as the preferred method for retiring a worn-out flag.

* Title 4, U.S. Code, Section 8(k) states: "The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning".

* Many patriotic and veterans organizations hold official ceremonies for this purpose. The ceremony is not an act of protest but one of reverence for the flag and what it represents.

* Veterans often burn the American flag as part of a formal flag retirement ceremony to show respect for the flag and honor the service of those who protected it.

FYI, when I retire the American flag, I donate it to an organization such as the American legion, or the Salvation Army. I have never burned a flag in my life, much less the American flag.
Title: Re: US owns 10% of intel
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 25, 2025, 08:03:55 PM
Based on your logic, true patriots never protest. But then, anyone whose political views differ from yours is not a patriot in your mind. In fact, you have repeatedly called us communists, and worse.

Flag desecration, is an act which has been ruled as protected free speech by the Supreme Court. Which Trump's OA does not address. Therefore, his OA violates First Amendment rights and the rule of the Supreme Court.

It is no surprise to me that you find these hate crime laws hypocritical.

Burning the flag and desecrating it are not the same thing. Note: Trump's OA does not alter the U.S. Flag Code, which endorses dignified burning as the preferred method for retiring a worn-out flag.

* Title 4, U.S. Code, Section 8(k) states: "The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning".

* Many patriotic and veterans organizations hold official ceremonies for this purpose. The ceremony is not an act of protest but one of reverence for the flag and what it represents.

* Veterans often burn the American flag as part of a formal flag retirement ceremony to show respect for the flag and honor the service of those who protected it.

FYI, when I retire the American flag, I donate it to an organization such as the American legion, or the Salvation Army. I have never burned a flag in my life, much less the American flag.

The fact you can’t even think on your own is at very least disturbing. Why don’t you look back at those that have desecrated the flag. Antifa, BLM, LGBTQ, over 500 protestors at Universities tearing the American down the American flag while raising the Palistinian flags, liberal university students, liberals university professors, etc, etc but of course you don’t see a pattern because you actually think these people are American patriots….they’re not. Not by any stretch of the imagination.
Title: Re: US owns 10% of intel
Post by: Necrosis on August 26, 2025, 02:56:33 AM
True Patriots don’t burn or desecrate the American flag. It’s why we don’t let it touch the ground when handling it. It’s why there’s a certain way of folding it and displaying it. It’s why we give the American flag to our fallen soldiers and service members that have passed away.

The only ones that burn and desecrate the flag are the same ones that are against our freedoms and this country. That being said, yes, they should be prosecuted.

Prime.. Hate crime laws: If the act is intended to intimidate or target a protected group, it could be prosecuted as a hate crime in some jurisdictions, depending on local laws and the context (e.g., burning an LGBTQ flag outside a community center with threatening intent). This law alone is hypocritical

the proper way to dispose of the flag when its in disrepair is to burn it.

you are about big government, thats fine.
Title: Re: US owns 10% of intel
Post by: chaos on August 26, 2025, 07:31:55 AM
the proper way to dispose of the flag when its in disrepair is to burn it.

you are about big government, thats fine.
Is that what's being criminalized, proper disposal of the American flag ??? Like I said on G&O, if it's free speech to burn the American flag, it's free speech to burn the fag flag and the isreali flag. Equality and shit.
Title: Re: US owns 10% of intel
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 26, 2025, 08:33:20 AM
the proper way to dispose of the flag when its in disrepair is to burn it.

you are about big government, thats fine.

We are absolutely not talking about disposing of its in disrepair and you know you know it. That’s the excuse I’m seeing from leftists on every platform trying to make this argument.
Title: Re: US owns 10% of intel
Post by: Necrosis on August 26, 2025, 08:37:50 AM
We are absolutely not talking about disposing of its in disrepair and you know you know it. That’s the excuse I’m seeing from leftists on every platform trying to make this argument.

my guy, burning the flag is every americans right protected by the second amendment. The fact that you are willing to give up this freedom is shocking. I don't agree with burning it, however, it's the right of americans to do so.

Again, I am not a leftist, but you seem to be unable to comprehend that. I am for small government, freedom, reasonable fiscal policy, lower taxes within reason, fair and equal tax code, I dont think men should be playing women's sports but I am fine with individual choices and don't discriminate etc etc...

A veteran was just taken away for practicing his freedom via burning a flag in front of the white house. He fought for the US, he is far more of a patriot then the draft dodger and yet this clown gets to make laws that defy the constitution unilaterally? What is this, north korea?
Title: Re: US owns 10% of intel
Post by: Primemuscle on August 26, 2025, 04:18:54 PM
The fact you can’t even think on your own is at very least disturbing. Why don’t you look back at those that have desecrated the flag. Antifa, BLM, LGBTQ, over 500 protestors at Universities tearing the American down the American flag while raising the Palistinian flags, liberal university students, liberals university professors, etc, etc but of course you don’t see a pattern because you actually think these people are American patriots….they’re not. Not by any stretch of the imagination.

I get it, you disagree with the First Amendment freedom of speech. Take your disagreement up with the U.S. Supreme Court which ruled in the Texas v. Johnson case in 1989 that burning the American flag is a constitutionally protected form of "symbolic speech" under the First Amendment, establishing that the government cannot prohibit the expression of an idea simply because society finds it offensive.

Here is what I personally think, I detest the destruction of property, which including that of the American flag for the sake of making a political statement regardless of who does it. I also think people should uphold the Constitution. If and when Congress proposes changes, there is a process for ratifying amendments to the Constitution which must be followed. Presidential executive orders are not currently part of the process. https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/constitution
Title: Re: US owns 10% of intel
Post by: chaos on August 26, 2025, 04:50:51 PM
my guy, burning the flag is every americans right protected by the second amendment.
It's the First amendment, foreigner.
Title: Re: US owns 10% of intel
Post by: Necrosis on August 27, 2025, 02:38:09 AM
It's the First amendment, foreigner.

why did you capitalize First?

you feel like a big man now?
Title: Re: US owns 10% of intel
Post by: chaos on August 27, 2025, 08:31:08 AM
why did you capitalize First?

you feel like a big man now?
Yes.