Getbig.com: American Bodybuilding, Fitness and Figure
Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: NarcissisticDeity on November 10, 2026, 03:39:43 AM
-
https://x.com/10News/status/2119973359412732326
https://www.breitbart.com/health/2026/11/09/california-supplement-id-law-minors-creatine/
Keep in mind same state you DO NOT need to prodouce an ID to vote ::) fucking clowns
-
Its dangerous stuff!
-
https://x.com/10News/status/2119973359412732326
https://www.breitbart.com/health/2026/11/09/california-supplement-id-law-minors-creatine/
Keep in mind same state you DO NOT need to prodouce an ID to vote ::) fucking clowns
Phukking lunatic libturds... ID for a sport supplement, no ID to vote.
Lunatic cult of retards...
-
Queue the pearl clutching old women
-
https://x.com/10News/status/2119973359412732326
https://www.breitbart.com/health/2026/11/09/california-supplement-id-law-minors-creatine/
Keep in mind same state you DO NOT need to prodouce an ID to vote ::) fucking clowns
Voter ID is racist!!!
(https://straightfromthea.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/raw.gif)
-
I just go to my doctor at the Creatine clinic.
-
Glad I never threw out that case of phosphagen.
-
Bhanky was right all along about using bio-identical hormones.
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.quickmeme.com%2Fimg%2F85%2F85085a2c6bb7788ce94de9f9472afbfb6693b36a2521172616554452e4c68088.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=9c1aa1e062a2bc7102c6dde9eb77909391973ef04cb25527fe9564bad480e735&ipo=images)
-
Land of the free. ::)
-
Land of the free. ::)
Keep voting liberal and these retarded laws will be nationwide.
-
Keep voting liberal and these retarded laws will be nationwide.
Both parties do this. Balance is key.
-
You DO NOT need an ID to vote but.......
Minor purchases covered muscle-building supplements Restricted under AB 2030 (Creatine) - Restricted
Minor obtains abortion without parental permission - Permitted
School excuses student for abortion without notifying parents - Permitted
School automatically notifies parents of gender identity change - Not generally required
Got it!
-
Both parties do this. Balance is key.
Curious if you can rattle off some retarded laws the conservatives have put in place?
-
I will say that I dosed 15 grams for 2 weeks and never in my life had the level of insomnia I had on creatine. It was wild.
It was blocking adenosine and thus reducing sleep pressure. I prob went 20 grams a few days there as well.
The cognitive effects are notable but its dangerous!!! save the kids.
-
Curious if you can rattle off some retarded laws the conservatives have put in place?
The both sides argument is tiring.
Yes, both sides suck. Politicians in general suck.
But while the right is incompetent, the left is batshit crazy insane.
So I tend to vote for the incompetents.
-
Subject "Starting in 2027, Californians will need an ID to buy creatine." is misleading.
The issue is not the product, but selling a product making muscle building claims. So, you can sell creatine, cats claw, lions mushrooms and whatever else unscheduled product - but you can't make claims it will "build muscle" or "lose weight" unless substantiated.
-
Can`t really blame them..........there`s so many people injecting it, and getting strung out on it, that the crime rate has risen astronomically.
::)
It`s almost on a par with Fentanyl. :D
-
Subject "Starting in 2027, Californians will need an ID to buy creatine." is misleading.
The issue is not the product, but selling a product making muscle building claims. So, you can sell creatine, cats claw, lions mushrooms and whatever else unscheduled product - but you can't make claims it will "build muscle" or "lose weight" unless substantiated.
If you read beyond the headline, these are specifically mentioned.
From the actual bill AB2030:
(e) When determining whether a supplement is “labeled, marketed, or otherwise represented for the purpose of achieving weight loss or muscle building,” the Attorney General shall consider, but is not limited to, all of the following factors:
(1) Whether the product contains any of the following:
(A) An ingredient approved by the United States Food and Drug Administration for weight loss or muscle building.
(B) A steroid.
(C) Creatine, green tea extract, raspberry ketone, garcinia cambogia, or green coffee bean extract.
-
What about melatonin?
-
From what I've read you Americans need to show ID to buy ephedrine at the pharmacy. I'd happily produce an ID if I could get ephedrine. You people don't take advantage of this beautiful substance though ::) :D
Creatine is a drug. No difference between a "supplement" and a drug except totally arbitrary scheduling. Creatine is a great drug IMO.
I'd like to try this:
-
From what I've read you Americans need to show ID to buy ephedrine at the pharmacy. I'd happily produce an ID if I could get ephedrine. You people don't take advantage of this beautiful substance though ::) :D
Creatine is a drug. No difference between a "supplement" and a drug except totally arbitrary scheduling. Creatine is a great drug IMO.
I'd like to try this:
Would you say creatine makes a noticeable difference?
-
If you are dumb enough to still be buying creatine then you need a mental health assessment
-
From what I've read you Americans need to show ID to buy ephedrine at the pharmacy. I'd happily produce an ID if I could get ephedrine. You people don't take advantage of this beautiful substance though ::) :D
Creatine is a drug. No difference between a "supplement" and a drug except totally arbitrary scheduling. Creatine is a great drug IMO.
I'd like to try this:
No, as an adult you don't have to show ID to buy pseudophed.
You are limited in how much you can buy though.
-
Would you say creatine makes a noticeable difference?
It does for me. You can see it on the scale too and more intramuscular water is always better.
If you are dumb enough to still be buying creatine then you need a mental health assessment
Creatine causes a bigger performance increase than most drugs on the banned lists. Most banned druga have not been shown to increase performance. In every study creatine "works." Basically all Olympians in power sports use it; it would be retarded to leave that advantage on the table. Many snooker and chess players use it as well. As Necrosis says the cognitive effects are real. If someone doesn't get enough sleep for a few days creatine restores cognitive performance.
I read Milos has his athletes use 80 grams a day. Pairs well with insulin.
-
No, as an adult you don't have to show ID to buy pseudophed.
You are limited in how much you can buy though.
Maybe pseudophed is different. It's not what I would want anyway. Ephedrine hcl.
Yes, you must show a valid government-issued photo ID to purchase over-the-counter products containing ephedrine, such as Bronkaid, in the United States. This requirement is mandated by the Combat Methamphetamine Epidemic Act (CMEA) of 2005, which classifies ephedrine as a precursor chemical used in the illicit manufacture of methamphetamine.
I remembered this :D
The "bottle method," also known as shake-and-bake or the one-pot method, is a simplified, high-risk procedure for manufacturing methamphetamine in small quantities using everyday items like two-liter soda bottles. This method typically involves combining pseudoephedrine or ephedrine with anhydrous ammonia, lithium (often from batteries), and water or other solvents in a sealed container, where shaking initiates a violent chemical reaction that produces methamphetamine and highly toxic, flammable waste.
-
Maybe pseudophed is different. It's not what I would want anyway. Ephedrine hcl.
The limit is 7 grams per month mail order. Or 9 grams physically over the counter. For Ephedrine, you usually go directly over to the pharmacist, and he sorts it out. You sign for it, and he notes your signature, and notes your address.
Sometimes, it's scanned, but it's similar.
I haven't mail ordered any, but I have gotten wine from Whole Foods / Amazon, and I imagine it's similar. They scan your info, and sometimes ask you to fill out an online form.
---------------------------------------------------------
Psudophedrine is supposed to follow the same rules, but I've seen it be looser. Here's what the logbook asks for -
(https://shop.apothecaryproducts.com/cdn/shop/files/52640_IMAGEFEATURE.png?v=1710955301&width=1500).
-
I may be incorrect about buying pseudophed.
Haven't bought in a long time but the last time I did you just couldn't buy much at one time.
-
Only for people under 18 years old...
California has enacted major new laws regarding dietary supplements, most notably Assembly Bill (AB) 2030 and Senate Bill (SB) 646. AB 2030: Age Restrictions on Weight-Loss & Muscle-Building Supplements - The Rule: AB 2030 prohibits selling, offering to sell, or giving away over-the-counter diet pills and dietary supplements labeled, marketed, or represented for weight loss or muscle building to anyone under 18 years of age
Assembly Bill No. 2030 - CHAPTER 720
An act to add Chapter 17.5 (commencing with Section 109030) to Part 3 of Division 104 of the Health and Safety Code, relating to public health.
[ Approved by Governor September 28, 2026. Filed with Secretary of State September 28, 2026.
LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST
AB 2030, Lowenthal. Dietary supplements for weight loss and over-the-counter diet pills. Existing law regulates the safety of various consumer products, including, among other things, specific additives in foods, chemicals in products for young children, and lead in tableware. This bill would prohibit a person from selling, offering to sell, or giving away as either a retail or wholesale promotion, and a delivery seller from selling, delivering, or causing to be delivered, an over-the-counter diet pill or dietary supplement for weight loss or muscle building, as defined, to any person in this state under 18 years of age, except as specified, by requiring a specified identification check. The bill would make a person who violates these provisions liable for a civil penalty of no more than $500 for each violation, as specified, and would authorize the Attorney General, a county counsel, or a city attorney to apply to a court for, and would authorize that court to have jurisdiction upon hearing and for cause shown to grant, a temporary or permanent injunction enjoining or restraining any person or entity from violating any of the prohibitions. The bill would make a prevailing plaintiff in an action under these provisions entitled to an award of reasonable attorney’s fees and costs.
Digest Key Vote: MAJORITY Appropriation: NO Fiscal Committee: YES Local Program: NO
Bill Text
The people of the State of California do enact as follows:
SECTION 1. Chapter 17.5 (commencing with Section 109030) is added to Part 3 of Division 104 of the Health and Safety Code, to read:
CHAPTER 17.5. Dietary Supplements
109030. (a) For purposes of this section, the following terms shall have the following meanings:
(1) “Dietary supplement for weight loss or muscle building” means a dietary supplement, as defined in 21 U.S.C. 321(ff), that is labeled, marketed, or otherwise represented for the purpose of achieving weight loss or building muscle.
(2) “Over-the-counter diet pill” means a drug, as defined in 21 U.S.C. 321(g)(1), that is labeled, marketed, or otherwise represented for the purpose of achieving weight loss for which a prescription is not required under the Federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act (21 U.S.C. Sec. 301 et seq.).
(3) “Retail establishment” means any vendor that, in the regular course of business, sells dietary supplements for weight loss or muscle building or over-the-counter diet pills at retail directly to the public, including, but not limited to, pharmacies, grocery stores, other retail stores, and vendors that accept orders placed by mail, telephone, electronic mail, internet website, online catalog, or software application.
(4) “Delivery sale” means any sale of over-the-counter diet pills or dietary supplements for weight loss or muscle building to a buyer in either of the following cases:
(A) The buyer submits the order for the sale by means of a telephone or other method of voice transmission, the mail, or the internet or other online service, or the seller is otherwise not in the physical presence of the buyer when the request for purchase or order is made.
(B) The over-the-counter diet pills or dietary supplements for weight loss or muscle building are delivered to the buyer by common carrier, private delivery service, or other method of remote delivery, or the seller is not in the physical presence of the buyer when the buyer obtains possession of the over-the-counter diet pills or dietary supplements for weight loss or muscle building.
(5) “Delivery seller” means a person, including online retailers, who makes delivery sales of over-the-counter diet pills or dietary supplements for weight loss or muscle building.
(b)
(1) A person shall not sell, offer to sell, or give away as either a retail or wholesale promotion, an over-the-counter diet pill or dietary supplement for weight loss or muscle building to any person in this state under 18 years of age.
(2) For purposes of paragraph (1), and subject to subdivision (c), a retail establishment shall request valid identification from any person in this state who attempts to purchase over-the-counter diet pills or dietary supplements for weight loss or muscle building if the retail establishment cannot reasonably determine that the person appears to be under 18 years of age.
(3) Any retail establishment that sells over-the-counter diet pills or dietary supplements for weight loss or muscle building in this state may limit access to those products in a manner designed to prevent unauthorized access to those products.
(c) (1) Notwithstanding paragraph (2) of subdivision (b), a delivery seller, including an online retailer, who mails or ships over-the-counter diet pills or dietary supplements for weight loss or muscle building to consumers in this state shall adhere to all of the following:
(A) Shall not sell, deliver, or cause to be delivered any over-the-counter diet pills or dietary supplements for weight loss or muscle building to a person in this state under 18 years of age.
(B) Shall not accept a delivery sale order from a person without doing either or both of the following:
(i) Obtaining the full name, birth date, and residential address of that person and verifying this through the use of a commercially available database or aggregate of databases, consisting primarily of data from government sources, that are regularly used by government and businesses for the purpose of age and identity verification and authentication, to ensure that the purchaser is at least 18 years of age.
(ii) Use a method of mailing or shipping that requires an adult who is at least 18 years of age to sign to accept delivery of the shipping container at the delivery address. The person who signs to accept delivery of the shipping container shall provide proof, in the form of a valid, government-issued identification bearing a photograph of the individual, that the person is at least 18 years of age.
(2) A database being used for age and identity verification under clause (i) of subparagraph (B) of paragraph (1) shall not be in the possession or under the control of the delivery seller, or be subject to any changes or supplementation by the delivery seller.
(d) (1) Section 111825 does not apply to a violation of this section.
(2) The Attorney General, a county counsel, or a city attorney may apply to a court for, and that court shall have jurisdiction upon hearing and for cause shown to grant, a temporary or permanent injunction enjoining or restraining any person or entity from violating any provision of this section.
(3) A person who violates this section shall be liable for a civil penalty of no more than five hundred dollars ($500) for each violation, which may be assessed and recovered in a civil action brought in the name of the people of the State of California by the Attorney General, a county counsel, or a city attorney in any court of competent jurisdiction.
(4) A prevailing plaintiff in an action brought pursuant to this section shall be entitled to an award of reasonable attorney’s fees and costs.
(e) When determining whether a supplement is “labeled, marketed, or otherwise represented for the purpose of achieving weight loss or muscle building,” the court may consider, but is not limited to, all of the following factors:
(1) Whether the product contains any of the following:
(A) An ingredient approved by the United States Food and Drug Administration for weight loss or muscle building.
(B) A steroid.
(C) Creatine, green tea extract, raspberry ketone, garcinia cambogia, or green coffee bean extract.
(2) Whether the product’s labeling or marketing bears statements or images that express or imply that the product will help with either of the following:
(A) Modify, maintain, or reduce body weight, fat, appetite, overall metabolism, or the process by which nutrients are metabolized.
(B) Maintain or increase muscle or strength.
(3) Whether the product or its ingredients are otherwise represented for the purpose of achieving weight loss or building muscle.
(4) Whether the retail establishment or delivery seller has done any of the following:
(A) Placed signs, categorized, or tagged the product with statements described in paragraph (2).
(B) Grouped the product with other weight loss or muscle building products in a display, advertisement, internet website, or area of the store.
(C) Otherwise representing that the product is for weight loss or muscle building.
(f) This section does not apply to a person under 18 years of age with a prescription for an over-the-counter diet pill or dietary supplement for weight loss or muscle building.
(g) This section does not apply to a person 18 years of age or older.
(h) The penalties established by this section are cumulative and shall not diminish rights, remedies, or penalties established under other laws.
-
I may be incorrect about buying pseudophed.
Haven't bought in a long time but the last time I did you just couldn't buy much at one time.
And pseudo-ephedrine is the ONLY drug which works in clearing blocked sinuses or ears.
Nothing else does anything.