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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Lee_a_priest on May 10, 2006, 03:59:42 PM
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Bob well i hope they listen and competing as well should be allowed.
One item I'm working on, is getting the rules changed reguarding the IFBB's stance on making appearances, guest pposings, Expo work, store openings, etc. in NON-SANCTIONED events...I believe this is illegal given the fact that we (as IFBB pro's) are listed as independant contractors, yet, receive no compensation directly from the IFBB, or Pro League. Unless the IFBB is willing to make us "employees", pay us a monthly fee, and 10-99 us at the end of the year...they are impeding our ability to make a living from our chosen profession
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Re: SAVE FITNESS
« Reply #41 on: May 09, 2006, 11:09:26 PM » Quote
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Tanji (and all)...
A fellow getbigger emailed me as to this topic...
The problem here isn't the judging, and it isn't the rise in numbers of Figure girls competing, it isn't the stage, etc, etc.
The problem comes down to one thing...MONEY.
The Fitness girls work harder than ANY of the BB related sports (yes, including the men). The problem is...because it's the hardest discipline, it's very easy for girls to switch to Figure...which is far easier but just as rewarding when it comes to exposure (which is bigger) and more importantly...MONEY.
What we (as a group) have to focus on, is getting a bigger purse to the Fitness shows, and reward the girls for their efforts. It's a tough sell when there is a NET LOSS for the 2nd-5th place finishers...even the winner loses money or at best makes $500-$1,000 after expenses and taxes.
THIS is where the changes need to be made in order to bring the numbers up.
One item I'm working on, is getting the rules changed reguarding the IFBB's stance on making appearances, guest pposings, Expo work, store openings, etc. in NON-SANCTIONED events...I believe this is illegal given the fact that we (as IFBB pro's) are listed as independant contractors, yet, receive no compensation directly from the IFBB, or Pro League. Unless the IFBB is willing to make us "employees", pay us a monthly fee, and 10-99 us at the end of the year...they are impeding our ability to make a living from our chosen profession.
As long as an IFBB athlete is in good standing, and is advertised/ promoted as a IFBB athlete for any of the above mentioned functions...I see no reason why we cannot be representing the IFBB at any other BB related event...IFBB or not.
This would open up many doors, and give more money making opportunities to the many athletes that make the IFBB what it is. It would also serve a dual purpose in allowing us to represent the company and bring up the overall interest to our sport.
Tanji, Adela...I could use all the support from your girls in getting this rule changed...working together, we have the ability to make changes for ourselves, and the next generation to follow us.
Bob Cicherilllo
IFBB Athlletes Rep
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Good luck lee but I don't see it ever happening. The IFBB has been doing business like this for years and it will continue doing it this way. I don't know how much cash you have but I doubt you can go head to head with the IFBB(Weider's) in a legal battle.
Dont get me wrong, I think you are right but I think you're fighting a losing battle. Good luck!!
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strange that the athlete representation would stand up like this for the ladies, but basically publicly admonishes Priest and Taylor for trying to compete in non-IFBB events.
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IF there is enough people that feel the same way pool your resources and hire a lawyer.
I would imagine even some of the sponsors would want to change the contracts so invite them to join your group as wel.
Change rarely comes from the inside unless there is equal pressure from the outside.
Having an athletes rep. is good for changing the small things, but contracts will only be reformed if there is enough pressure from the outside. The PDI isn't it.
Use the courts.
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Lee which pro are you? What is your real name? What is your infactuation with lee priest?
you mean infatuation and you're not funny.....
Lee, I wish you luck... part of the humor in all this is that if you were not an IFBB pro you might stand to earn more than you do now because you wouldn't have to play by their rules.
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Lee which pro are you? What is your real name? What is your infactuation with lee priest?
You IDIOT !!!! Cheeeze get some skills Alexxx
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Oh lol I though that pillo bighter lee priest fan got some blue stars. ;D
thought... pillow... biter...
alexxx, you are digging yourself a hole...
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Oh lol I though that pillo bighter lee priest fan got some blue stars. ;D
Alexxx you're posts dever make no since.
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I'm not putting this proposal JUST for the ladies...I't's for ALL IFBB pro's to benefit from.
We must first walk, before trying to run...
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Not sure about the actual legal issues here for the pros but this is a done deal for the amatuer shows , extabished via law suit between the NPC and AAU years ago. No one organization has the right to monopolize or bloack an individuals right to compete in any other sports organization.
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strange that the athlete representation would stand up like this for the ladies, but basically publicly admonishes Priest and Taylor for trying to compete in non-IFBB events.
Never said anything of the sort...I wish nothing but the best for Lee and Vince. Their choice.
They know the rules...they've been in place for over 50 years.
I didn't make the rules, I explain them.
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Never said anything of the sort...I wish nothing but the best for Lee and Vince. Their choice.
They know the rules...they've been in place for over 50 years.
I didn't make the rules, I explain them.
Great post, Bob!
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the IFBB and wieders should be brought up on monopoly charges
the end
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Now just a question... if body builders compete and place well they do make money. If they don't compete and place well, no money.
The same thing happens in tennis, golf, and so on. According to which principles should be different in body building?
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Union anyone?