At this point, it does not look good. Why?
They have ouple decent guys finally, but no real "established names" on board.
Wayne D has an excellnt concept however and that may make a difference.
Hard to say if the shows can make $$$, considering how so many IFBB shows lose cash now????
What do ya think? I am on the fence on this one ???
Ticket sales will go up as more athletes declare and the date comes closer.
Remember, Taylor and Priest waited til they completed the shows they wanted to do in the IFBB, before any announcement was made. There are a lot of guys doing the NY, the Colo, Europa, and the Atlantic city that are itching to go where the money is and the politics ain't.
There will be alot of Nabba guys jioning and some of them are huge , coubled with the IFBB guys it will be very competitive with alot of new faces !!
I believe it will be a success.The NABBA and European competitors will make their impact. Wayne knows better than most on how to put on a show.. It will make money.
At this point, it does not look good. Why?
They have ouple decent guys finally, but no real "established names" on board.
Wayne D has an excellnt concept however and that may make a difference.
Hard to say if the shows can make $$$, considering how so many IFBB shows lose cash now????
What do ya think? I am on the fence on this one ???
Hard to say if the shows can make $$$, considering how so many IFBB shows lose cash now????
At this point, it does not look good. Why?
They have ouple decent guys finally, but no real "established names" on board.
Wayne D has an excellnt concept however and that may make a difference.
Hard to say if the shows can make $$$, considering how so many IFBB shows lose cash now????
What do ya think? I am on the fence on this one ???
the first PDI NOC doesn't need to be a financial success for the PDI to succeed in the long run.
Howie, this is the first time I have had to scold you. You know nothing. You have no idea who Wayne has. Wait till after the NY Pro. Wait till about a month from the NOC. I talked to Wayne just yesterday for almost an hour. He sounds very excited and he knows Ihave a big mouth so won't tell me everything yet but it will be good. And what big names do you know in Europe. Do you think the only draw are guys in the U.S. PDI is going to have plenty of shows in Europe. Major support from there is happening. Once the ball gets rolling all it's going to do is pick up more cash to give away for prize money. European sponsors are going to start offering endorsement contracts to PDI athletes only. It will be good. The U.S. is not the only place where there is money. In fact the U.S. sponsors are lacking allot lately. Why do you think the largest and oldest BB federation the IFBB is losing shows now and the biggest show they have the Olympia is getting worse and worse each year. It's time a change in the postive direction Wayne and the PDI are heading that way.
At this point, it does not look good. Why?
They have ouple decent guys finally, but no real "established names" on board.
Wayne D has an excellnt concept however and that may make a difference.
Hard to say if the shows can make $$$, considering how so many IFBB shows lose cash now????
What do ya think? I am on the fence on this one ???
I think it will do badly as well, which is a shame b/ cI think Lee Proest is a good guy. Bob was right on the money when he said that there in not enough of a fan base to justify two bodybuilding companies.
Competition is good. Maybe we can get back to decent physiques without the damm GH that killing pro BB. How many guys look better then the BB's from the 80' and 90's. They may not be as big but overall package.? Some of the guys with pro cards boggle the mind, Greg Kovacs? He's an extreme example but it's gotten out of hand. I'm not saying PDI will change anything but I have read they will change the judging. Hopefully that will change the look of the current crop of guys. It's just like the line in Donnie Brasco about the same 10 guys chasing the same nickle. Hopefully this will spread the cash around and give more guys a real chance.
Yes, this is exactly what the PDI is about.
There is plenty of fanbase, especially the fans that the ifbb has lost. If I had a nickel for every person who has told me they are not going to the olympia, because they already know who the top 5 are. Plus, people cannot relate, nor do they think, bodybuilders like Ronnie and Jay are atractive(I think they are awesome) bu the general public think it's ugly.
PDI is going to get that crowd back in the seats, with bodybuilding entertainment. The women, and others who we have lost.
Bro...
If you "had a NICKLE for every person that told you they werent going to the Olympia..."you would....ahhhh...Have a lot of NiCKLES! ;D
Just for the fact that the Night of Champions will be under PDI this September, and with most people thinking it will fail, and hoping the guys that are going in as first time pro's...people will want this to fail so much...they will go to the show to see it happen, and it will be a sell out...LOL
Bro...
If you "had a NICKLE for every person that told you they werent going to the Olympia..."you would....ahhhh...Have a lot of NiCKLES! ;D
Thats what I'm hoping for too headhunter.
Rhino, that would be great to compete in Europe, huh? I've always wanted to go there.
Why did Wayne not want to include fitness and figure? Seems like there is a lot of interest there.
Whats up Chick?Chick is going back to breaking balls on a moderate level, to build up steam for his next onslaught on 240 Jack, its nothing any of us can stop, he is out for revenge and is tryin to re establish himself as a credible source as oppse to a mudslinging Pro who targets internet dudes and accuses them of blatant racism.
You know what I mean......
I think the other thing thats missing is the characters. We don't have guys like the barbarian brothers. It's not raw. It's not fun. All we have is this guy is gay or going to prison or gonna die. Make this fun, and people will come back. The drug thing will always be there but at some point someone has to tell the general public that shoving a needle in your ass doesn't constitute walking out looking like Lee Priest. PDI has a chance to pull in guys who may not be able to touch guys like Ronnie but would certainly appeal to the broad spectrum of the folks who lift weights. I've been reading the mags for year and must have missed something. There are a ton of threads dedicated to the "golden age" of BB. How many young guys ask " Onlyme" what was it like to be in the gym with... It's gotten stale now This is new and I hope it succeeds.
Chick is going back to breaking balls on a moderate level, to build up steam for his next onslaught on 240 Jack, its nothing any of us can stop, he is out for revenge and is tryin to re establish himself as a credible source as oppse to a mudslinging Pro who targets internet dudes and accuses them of blatant racism.
Why did Wayne not want to include fitness and figure? Seems like there is a lot of interest there.
I don't know Wayne's ultimate long-term plan, but he wants to take one step at a time.
I think there's added value in including gorgeous, fit women in the program, but that's not a part of the PDI's initial event strategy. Once their core product offering builds up some momentum, I predict they will add women.
And how are you doing bro?Thats all I do is TRAIN HARD .. did it before I came on the boards and after I leave, yeah man hope your doing ok with everything Rhino!
training hard, or what?
Thats always a great strategy, tell everyone that it will fail in an effort to lure people into watching the next 'Titanic'.......
Im glad your not my marketing manager on this one Vinny
Im glad your not my marketing manager on this one Vinny
hmmm lets see....1 YEAR with EAS, AND 9 years with UNIVERSAL, 5 COVERS FROM China to Italy...and 4 covers here in the states.
9 FEATURES over the last 12 years from Muscle mag to Muscle and Fitness.
I just got back from doing 4 seminars from southern Italy to Rome.
Not bad for a guy who cant turn pro....LOL
Rhino....dont a just love it so far...LOL
Thats all I do is TRAIN HARD .. did it before I came on the boards and after I leave, yeah man hope your doing ok with everything Rhino!
Im glad your not my marketing manager on this one Vinny
hmmm lets see....1 YEAR with EAS, AND 9 years with UNIVERSAL, 5 COVERS FROM China to Italy...and 4 covers here in the states.
9 FEATURES over the last 12 years from Muscle mag to Muscle and Fitness.
I just got back from doing 4 seminars from southern Italy to Rome.
Not bad for a guy who cant turn pro....LOL
Rhino....dont a just love it so far...LOL
Im glad your not my marketing manager on this one Vinny
hmmm lets see....1 YEAR with EAS, AND 9 years with UNIVERSAL, 5 COVERS FROM China to Italy...and 4 covers here in the states.
9 FEATURES over the last 12 years from Muscle mag to Muscle and Fitness.
I just got back from doing 4 seminars from southern Italy to Rome.
Not bad for a guy who cant turn pro....LOL
Rhino....dont a just love it so far...LOL
Cool Vinny... you really know your stuff....
Come visit the Rhino / Galanti team GETBIG at the Night of Champions
Vinny, have you seen the new Team Rhino clothing line?
Why did Wayne not want to include fitness and figure? Seems like there is a lot of interest there.
Anyone?
Anyone?
I think he wants to start off with mens only until it establishes itself. I am pretty sure he will add the Fitness and Figure once the ball gets rolling. But to include it right off the bat takes on an even larger concept.
I think he wants to start off with mens only until it establishes itself. I am pretty sure he will add the Fitness and Figure once the ball gets rolling. But to include it right off the bat takes on an even larger concept.He should stick to the mens bodybuilding only... all the women's divisions are a snore-fest or simply too creepy
I disagree....though when there are a ton of figure competitors it can make a show very long. Fitness is pretty exciting for most fans.
Rhino, that makes sense. He can add it later if the BBing does well. Perfect and build one first then expand.
I think fitness and figure will bring in a lot of competitors and fans.
I appreciate the effort the girls put into it but the fitness and figure puts the fans to sleep every time and makes the shows WAY too long.
The best show I ever went to was the 1998 night of champions and it was pretty much all muscle and over in 2 to 2.5 hours max...
And yeah, with figure on the amateur levels having so many girls it definitely does make shows drag on.
The most excting BB show I have ever been too is the military BB show at Pearl Harbor.
I heard something about a show there... I heard it bombed. ???
240...
Booo! >:(
yeah, that was a low blow, i admit it
Why did it take me so long to get the joke? ;D