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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => History - Stories - and Memories => Topic started by: Figo on May 11, 2006, 11:24:01 AM
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Read somewhere years ago that apparently Serge Nubret used to not consume any meals the entire day, and then chow down big time at one sitting in the evening.
Always found hard to believe, but wondering if anyone heard of this.
www.enutrition.co.za (http://www.enutrition.co.za)
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I call bull! How the heck does he chow down 8 pounds of beef in one meal?
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I also find it hard to believe, not sure if it was 8 pounds of beef, but whatever it was he ate to support his mass(which for the time was very good)it must have been substantial.
Another thing, with the copious quantities he would be consuming at one sitting, surely he would have experienced some stomach distention in the process, although Nubret had one of the tightest midsections ever.
Perhaps bull as you said Alexxx, but the man did have very strange training principles, so perhaps he also had a strange diet.
www.enutrition.co.za (http://www.enutrition.co.za)
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What do you mean? From what I saw in muscle mag it was pretty much on the same level as all the other guys except for legs he didn't use weights. :-\
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Marathon training sessions ofen spending hours on one bodypart.
www.enutrition.co.za (http://www.enutrition.co.za)
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nubrets breakfast
3 eggs
a bowl of oatmeal
40mg dianabol
pre-workout
pussy(he was supposedly a french porn star)
workout:
chest
arms
post workout
2 cigarettes(hes european)
40mg dianabol
dinner
six pounds of raw horse meat
a glass of wine
4 potatoes
40mg dianabol
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i thought he ate horse meat before bed? at least i think i read that somewhere...
8)
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i thought he ate horse meat before bed? at least i think i read that somewhere...
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oh thats right 8 pounds of horse meat not beef..
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i thought he ate horse meat before bed? at least i think i read that somewhere...
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thats right, ill change it.
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He hunted the horses personally down with his bare hands and feet. And he ate all his meat raw.
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So, I should take that as a no?...nobody's heard of this shit?
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I'll give his diet a try
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I'll give his diet a try
Any horses nearby? You will be HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE
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instead of horse meat maybe ill try 8 of these (http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j201/juicy6925/bigmac_1.jpg)
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instead of horse meat maybe ill try 8 of these (http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j201/juicy6925/bigmac_1.jpg)
Ahhhhhhhhhhh. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmm.
I'm off to McD, i think i'll have a cheat day today. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Actually yes he did do that in fact Frank Zane and a fewof them back in the day would "fast" they would eat healthy then when it was time for the next meal #3 4 or whatever they would fight the urge to eat the meal,and try not to eat. When they felt muscles depleting to much and they were becoming real flat then they would eat.The basis is that longer you dont eat the more the body will use fat for fuel,true but risky.
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That explains how Zane stayed so small, but never built large muscles. Yes they were proportioned and symmetrical, but not big!
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Actually yes he did do that in fact Frank Zane and a fewof them back in the day would "fast" they would eat healthy then when it was time for the next meal #3 4 or whatever they would fight the urge to eat the meal,and try not to eat. When they felt muscles depleting to much and they were becoming real flat then they would eat.The basis is that longer you dont eat the more the body will use fat for fuel,true but risky.
That's actually the way i diet, too. (No joke this time, Ironneck ;) )
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Hows it work for you?
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Hows it work for you?
Oh pretty good. I'm natural, so i'm na mass monster, but i must say that i get better overall results than with dieting hard.
I do a refeed about twice a week on training days, where i eat clean but massive amounts of food.
this helps with not slowing down my metabolism too much.
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Just talked to a old timer in the gym, and Serge used what is called the warrior diet. Alot of bodybuilders from europe used this diet. You eat VERY light during the day,low gi fruits, a bit of yogurt like 3 tbs. and and a few bits of cottage cheese, then some soup, mostly just sodium and water types.
Then you workout, after your evening workout you have a large large meal to get your daily calories, you eat the small stuff first salad, veggies, then protein with fat, then if you want carbs and dessert.
So it kinda makes sense I used to hear about older bodybuilders doing this they would eat huge meals eggommlettes and french toast.
The breakdown is you fast for around 20 hours the fasting begins after the big meal, it has a 4 hour slot,in which you take in the calories.
here is some more information on it www.warriordiet.com
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Thanks man, geez, getting quite a bit of the horse-meat wise-cracks here. ;)
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I was thinking about trying it, it would be good for a weekor2 to do something like that to shock the body, but I don't think it would be a good diet ??? It's not for a bodybuilder really it's more for athletic purposes.
It kinda is like the Leo Costa Jr catabolic diet, where for a week straight you eat under 1o grams of protein, alot of fruits and veggies, then you pile on all protein, nothing but protein and fat. Gives the body a unusual shock where it is said to make the body uptake protein better.
I was able to do it for 2 days, feltlike crap and the notion of not having any protein kinda messed with me.
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Read somewhere years ago that apparently Serge Nubret used to not consume any meals the entire day, and then chow down big time at one sitting in the evening.
Always found hard to believe, but wondering if anyone heard of this.
www.enutrition.co.za (http://www.enutrition.co.za)
It's 100% TRUE! I knew Serge personally. I have witnessed him do this.
His normal eating plan went something like this:
Eat NOTHING all day (except "sugar cookies/lady fingers"). He ate these during "intermission" periods during his six hour marathon training sessions. He typically ate only a few to fuel his workout.
Late in the evening (usually starting at 11pm-12am) he would have a GIANT bowl of food which included 5-8lbs of beef, rice and beans (usually lentils). Although it is technically a "single sitting", he ate this over a period of a few hours while watching T.V. "Late Night Theatre" here in Los Angeles.
I was always amazed at his whole program. He was a genetic FREAK! He trained very hard and was incredibly strong! I have mad respect for him.
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They studied hormonal manipulations with food. Test rises when you eat. GH rises when you dont eat. also IGF1 rises when you skip a meal.
So this stuff of eating every 3 hrs may be limiting your natural potential.
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They studied hormonal manipulations with food. Test rises when you eat. GH rises when you dont eat. also IGF1 rises when you skip a meal.
So this stuff of eating every 3 hrs may be limiting your natural potential.
Interesting. However, I beleive it is all irrelevant how high your hormone levels are if you don't have enough calories or protein to grow.
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Interesting. However, I beleive it is all irrelevant how high your hormone levels are if you don't have enough calories or protein to grow.
They sipped at food all day, which was great for GH. Then a big meal had alot of calories.....whos to say undr slight famine conditions, your body wouldnt assimilate those nutrients??
Your right its interesting stuff.
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Thanks for the info.
This is kinda what most bodybuilders back then did, they worked out alll day pretty much and stayed tight, and then had big protein meals, that made them full,and they would strive to burn the extra calories off by the next workout.
Getting intothe habit of this is hard, your muscles become flat and soft for about 2-3 weeeks, then you seem to harden up really fast and become tight,once your body maintains the calories. It's why looking back you notice how the bodybuilders who did this had tight skin, 365 days of the year, not just come contest time for 2 weeks...
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True that they definetely looked harder more consistenly. Very interesting stuff.
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Most Sumo wrestlers will have one hugh meal of rice stew in the early evening time, with a brew drink something like beer. There is very light eating and tea mid morning, if I remember correctly. A perfect way to put on slabs of fat. They do train hard most every day, so some of that food is converted into muscle. With that push-pull training, leverage (and the weight/resistence in the form of huge bwt, which is really needed for that sport) is of prime importance.
So when Joe Sixpack comes home at night and finishes a whole pizza with a six pack (maybe a snack at bed time also) he's on his way to Sumo size. Of course without the added muscle. Some of my veggie friends will eat one meal a day (in late afternoon) or fast for short periods and they have not a hint of muscle anywhere on their bodies. Humans are a grazing anamal by nature. My view:...For best muscle gains (for selective periods) grazing in the form of 6 or more small meals a day can work well for the average BB'er. Like suggested before, sipping a hi-protein drink throughout the day can work wonders for growth gains. Good Luck.
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Those are normal people who eat joe blows food,your way off with this method.
This works when wanting toreduce waist size bulk and become harder.
Your fasting your body and it's burning fat, during the day...then you feed it and you grow.
Working out and doing this is hard, and looking back in time at the greeks and romans this is what the did and they were much healthier.
I have been doing this for a week now, I've lost 2 lbs. my skin is super tight!! It's hard the first day.
Here is what I have been doing....
Wake up:
Take supps-non vitamins (since my stomcah is empty and not good to take vits on empty stomach hurts the stomach lining)
Train
Post- Bowl of cabbage soup
Then I graze on chicken broth mixed with chicken of rice and pepper.
Then come night time and the following
Salad with vinegar
ABB Pure Pro whey protein
6 chicken breasts
2 cans tuna
Cup of kidney beans
6 Rice cakes
3 tbs PB
Some dessert usually a few star cakes and some of this crispy waffer things
Then I slepp, and next morning my skin is tight then through the day Im depleting, but still hard, kinda weird.
I'm just trying this having fun with it.
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I've been experimenting with the opposite. I've been eating during the morning/day & then less as the day goes on:
Here's an example:
9AM - Yogurt & Oatmeal (with protein powder)
11PM - Train (Drink a protein shake while training)
1-2PM - Eat a large meal (Chicken & rice or something along those lines)
6or7PM - Another large meal or a large Protein shake with Flax seed powder
12-1AM - 1 tablespoon of Hemp or Flax oil & 5 liver tablets (before bed)
I also will snack on some fruit or nuts during the day but I try not to eat much after 7PM. I've also cut my protein intake as well (from 300+ to about 175). So far it seems to work pretty well. I don't really know why I'm doing this because I used to eat every three hours. I guess I'm just tired of forcing myself to eat. The bonus is I haven't lost any size.