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(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/yates/dy169.jpg)
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exactly !!!
haney beat dorian fair n square in their only encounter .. even though haney was the seasoned champion and dorian was the rookie .. there is no way you can say dorian was better than haney .. even if he did beat haney in the muscularity round and ab n thigh comparison .
however dorian ala 93 would have smoked haney in an instant.
same with coleman/dorian.. and the endless BS we have to put up with with their warrin fans .... dorian smoked coleman on so many occassions .. so how you can say coleman is better than dorian is laughable.
dorian posed haney serious headaches in his rookie olympia .. thats what makes dorian so remarkable ... he would have beat haney in the followin years .. maybe 1 or two ... coleman could never threaten dorian .. and had to wait untill the beast of britain retired to win an O.
dorian's career is remarkable.. hence hes better than coleman. but im torn to call him better than haney!
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exactly !!!
haney beat dorian fair n square in their only encounter .. even though haney was the seasoned champion and dorian was the rookie .. there is no way you can say dorian was better than haney .. even if he did beat haney in the muscularity round and ab n thigh comparison .
however dorian ala 93 would have smoked haney in an instant.
same with coleman/dorian.. and the endless BS we have to put up with with their warrin fans .... dorian smoked coleman on so many occassions .. so how you can say coleman is better than dorian is laughable.
lol, brutal counter logic.
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Freeagain, if Haney would have continued to compete, he would have 13 Sandows and Dorian one. I agree, in 1993 you could give a good argument for him beating Haney, but by 1994 he was a mess. Plus, after 1994 he was a one armed wonder and Haney would have killed him. Also, who is to say that Haney would have not played the size game and come in 10-15 pounds bigger. He already had a better torso than Yates, he could have handled the weight and maintained the wasp waist.
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Haney was only 32 when he retired, this should also be considered.
Dorian could always beat him on arms (forearms,bis,tris,branchii and all that), calves, hams, neck...
As in the song, times are changin', Lee couldn't touch Dorian after '93...
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Haney was only 32 when he retired, this should also be considered.
Dorian could always beat him on arms (forearms,bis,tris,branchii and all that), calves, hams, neck...
As in the song, times are changin', Lee couldn't touch Dorian after '93...
indeed .. dorian was the new kid with it all infront of him ... i bet haney was alarmed at his potential.
how many guys have ever come into their rookie olympia as favourite ? :o
i was talkin to my bro about haney .. he said haney quit cuz the effect of steroids on his health.
i dont think haney could have played the chemical warfare of the 90s to stay at the top .. dorian was fresh as a daisy.
i still got fond memorys of haney's reign and era though. i think the 80s bodybuilders were cool as f'uck with physiques to aspire too ...... the 90s progression turned it too much into a freak show. blame old joe for that .... what joe wants .. joe gets! >:(
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Haney looks fantastic in that pic and clearly beats Dorian. Would probably still be Mr O with that package.
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Haney all the way to 2006! He coulda won 22 mr. olympias! Only Sergio or Arnold could beat Haney!
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exactly !!!
haney beat dorian fair n square in their only encounter .. even though haney was the seasoned champion and dorian was the rookie .. there is no way you can say dorian was better than haney .. even if he did beat haney in the muscularity round and ab n thigh comparison .
however dorian ala 93 would have smoked haney in an instant.
same with coleman/dorian.. and the endless BS we have to put up with with their warrin fans .... dorian smoked coleman on so many occassions .. so how you can say coleman is better than dorian is laughable.
dorian posed haney serious headaches in his rookie olympia .. thats what makes dorian so remarkable ... he would have beat haney in the followin years .. maybe 1 or two ... coleman could never threaten dorian .. and had to wait untill the beast of britain retired to win an O.
dorian's career is remarkable.. hence hes better than coleman. but im torn to call him better than haney!
Ronnie is better than Dorian because he looked better at his best and he has more Sandows and a better career. Sorry :-\
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Ronnie is better than Dorian because he looked better at his best and he has more Sandows and a better career. Sorry :-\
the next mrO will smoke ronnie for shape n size... so what point are we tryin to make here?
ronnie has feeble competition compared to the pressure cooker of the 90s ...
whos the better sprinter ..carl lewis or justine gatlin?? gatlin runs faster in another era .. but who had the better career ? these arguments.. when you actually step away and look at what we post, the arguments we make are totally pointless.
you can only be the best of your era .... and ronnie was part of dorians era when yates was handin him his ass routinely.
what makes dorian's reign so remarkable is he created genuine excitement in his rookie olympia and went head to head with the incumbant champ of longstandin. ronnie was f'uckin useless at his early mr O's and only had to fend off wheeler to get his mitts on the prize.
i still prefer haney over dorian though .. cuz im notalgiac for 80s bodybuildin ... but i defo pick yates over coleman anytime .. nationalistic bias aside. ;)
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dorian smoked coleman on so many occassions .. so how you can say coleman is better than dorian is laughable.
Frank Zane also beat Arnold.
How anyone can say that Arnold is better than Zane is laughable ::)
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lol, brutal counter logic.
bwhahaha.
big +1
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ronnie dwarfs everyone
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Dorian has better arms... ::). Please, why don't you get a clue. Dorian has shit for arms and a huge gut. Compared to Ronnie, that is not a huge strike, but against Haney that is ludicrous. Haney smokes Dorian in every sense of the word. He has better shaped arms (one armed wonder Yates), a much better chest, equal back if not thicker especially in 1991 compared to Yates. His abs kill Yates; anybody ever heard about taper. Haney had it; Ronnie had it and still does to some extent; Yates does not have it especially near the end of his career. Yates might have won the 1993 Mr. Olympia but that was it. Only ND would think that Yates would reign supreme.
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Haney & Yates were both hugely flawed despite great overall muscle quality. Coleman would thrash either one due to balance issues, as so concisely expressed by one Mr. Sergio Oliva:
There is no way in the old days that Lee Haney would have won the Mr. Olympia. His physique is unproportional -- a man with a back, but no arms or calves.
Then there's Dorian Yates. He has a belly like a cow and no arms. That is not a complete physique. That is not proportional or symmetrical.
Haney-Yates is a coin-toss: Haney more aesthetic, Haney's larger issues concerning balance.
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the next mrO will smoke ronnie for shape n size... so what point are we tryin to make here?
ronnie has feeble competition compared to the pressure cooker of the 90s ...
whos the better sprinter ..carl lewis or justine gatlin?? gatlin runs faster in another era .. but who had the better career ? these arguments.. when you actually step away and look at what we post, the arguments we make are totally pointless.
you can only be the best of your era .... and ronnie was part of dorians era when yates was handin him his ass routinely.
what makes dorian's reign so remarkable is he created genuine excitement in his rookie olympia and went head to head with the incumbant champ of longstandin. ronnie was f'uckin useless at his early mr O's and only had to fend off wheeler to get his mitts on the prize.
i still prefer haney over dorian though .. cuz im notalgiac for 80s bodybuildin ... but i defo pick yates over coleman anytime .. nationalistic bias aside. ;)
Ronnie should be praised for improving so much, not criticized. If you want to talk about who was better in his prime, I would say it was pretty close. Dorian came and strong and never placed lower than second. Ronnie had to wait years for success, but has had the longer career. USA is going to kick England's butt in the World Cup ;D
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Ronnie should be praised for improving so much, not criticized. If you want to talk about who was better in his prime, I would say it was pretty close. Dorian came and strong and never placed lower than second. Ronnie had to wait years for success, but has had the longer career. USA is going to kick England's butt in the World Cup ;D
coleman praises himself enough typical sterotypical deuchebag there is no way he can pull of the olympia withthat arm
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Dorian has better arms... ::). Please, why don't you get a clue. Dorian has shit for arms and a huge gut. Compared to Ronnie, that is not a huge strike, but against Haney that is ludicrous. Haney smokes Dorian in every sense of the word. He has better shaped arms (one armed wonder Yates), a much better chest, equal back if not thicker especially in 1991 compared to Yates. His abs kill Yates; anybody ever heard about taper. Haney had it; Ronnie had it and still does to some extent; Yates does not have it especially near the end of his career. Yates might have won the 1993 Mr. Olympia but that was it. Only ND would think that Yates would reign supreme.
Dorian didn't start as a one arm wonder, and he had the some of the best tris in the business, great forearms,branchii...
I never mention Dorian had great set of arms, but he didn't need that, he smoked Haney's arms with what he had, that's a pity coz we are talking about two olmpians....
P.S: ıf Dorian had some serious mass in his biceps, he would have great set of arms, I would like to see his physique with balanced arms...
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Lee "no arms" haney
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/haney/lh109.jpg)
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Like I said, Yates has to get past Haney in order to even touch Coleman. Especially in the back department.
(http://digilander.libero.it/gruppociak/sphan9.jpg)
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Lee "no arms" haney
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/haney/lh109.jpg)
His arms look nice here :o
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Dorian didn't start as a one arm wonder, and he had the some of the best tris in the business, great forearms,branchii...
I never mention Dorian had great set of arms, but he didn't need that, he smoked Haney's arms with what he had, that's a pity coz we are talking about two olmpians....
P.S: ıf Dorian had some serious mass in his biceps, he would have great set of arms, I would like to see his physique with balanced arms...
Dorian's tris looked small and helpless in the front and rear double biceps poses ::)
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Lee "no arms" haney
In his case the pose makes a huge difference, like night and day. With his arms by his sides the arm imbalance isn't obvious.
Unlike Yates, at least he knows how to smile:
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In his case the pose makes a huge difference, like night and day. With his arms by his sides the arm imbalance isn't obvious.
Unlike Yates, at least he knows how to smile:
His arms are tiny :-\
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His arms are tiny :-\
Lucius don't make me slap some sense into you.
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Lucius don't make me slap some sense into you.
We shouldn't fight :-\ Not in front of the kids :'(
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We shouldn't fight :-\ Not in front of the kids :'(
I would never hit you. Just pay more respect to the retired legend of bodybuilding. I bet if you where standing next to him you wouldn't think his arms are so small. Buddy.
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I would never hit you. Just pay more respect to the retired legend of bodybuilding. I bet if you where standing next to him you wouldn't think his arms are so small. Buddy.
Yes sir, Alexxx :-[
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Yes sir, Alexxx :-[
;D
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Both legends that deserve respect
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i wonder how many people we can say are better than gary strydom because they beat him at his only encounter. or how many can say the same of samir bannout. or any other person who made a comeback. jaroslav horvath beat levrone before. art atwood beat lee priest at their last encounter.