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Title: would you agree that a contest is won at the pre judging?
Post by: gracie bjj on May 19, 2006, 07:27:52 AM
it always seems to me that which ever competetor or competetors get the nod and impress the judges at the pre judging usually win or place high,i know there are exceptions to the rule but for the most part it seems the contest is pretty much decided at the pre judging
Title: Re: would you agree that a contest is won at the pre judging?
Post by: LuciusFox on May 19, 2006, 07:36:59 AM
 I think that is how it has always been. What happened at the Colorado Pro? I hear that Darrem looked better in the morning and Phil better at night. Did Darrem win the prejudging?
Title: Re: would you agree that a contest is won at the pre judging?
Post by: alexxx on May 19, 2006, 07:39:10 AM
Derrem has some good size on him now only problem is he got beat on his strong point, condition.
Title: Re: would you agree that a contest is won at the pre judging?
Post by: HowieW on May 19, 2006, 07:39:50 AM
it always seems to me that which ever competetor or competetors get the nod and impress the judges at the pre judging usually win or place high,i know there are exceptions to the rule but for the most part it seems the contest is pretty much decided at the pre judging

It should be judged at the PJ or why else have one?
Title: Re: would you agree that a contest is won at the pre judging?
Post by: thisiskeith12 on May 19, 2006, 07:40:22 AM
Darrem wasn't as sliced as normal, he was still a bit off, I think he's saving it for the New York show.
Title: Re: would you agree that a contest is won at the pre judging?
Post by: gracie bjj on May 19, 2006, 07:43:28 AM
the year everyone said cutler should have won,i forgot the year,anyway they say jay smoked him at the prejudging,i guess in that show politics play a huge role
Title: Re: would you agree that a contest is won at the pre judging?
Post by: thisiskeith12 on May 19, 2006, 07:45:25 AM
If the judges based strictly on conditioning and proportion, you would have a new winner every year.
Title: Re: would you agree that a contest is won at the pre judging?
Post by: LuciusFox on May 19, 2006, 07:45:36 AM
the year everyone said cutler should have won,i forgot the year,anyway they say jay smoked him at the prejudging,i guess in that show politics play a huge role

  Cutler did win the prejudging in 2001, only to find out that Ronnie had more patriotic posing trunks in the night show. It was obviously a good time for patriotism :'(
Title: Re: would you agree that a contest is won at the pre judging?
Post by: thisiskeith12 on May 19, 2006, 07:46:54 AM
  Cutler did win the prejudging in 2001, only to find out that Ronnie had more patriotic posing trunks in the night show. It was obviously a good time for patriotism :'(

Didn't the Patriots win that year?
Title: Re: would you agree that a contest is won at the pre judging?
Post by: gracie bjj on May 19, 2006, 07:47:20 AM
It should be judged at the PJ or why else have one?

i agree,but ive seen afew shows where a guy looked alittle off at the prejudging only to come in at the night show improved and win,cutler and coleman come to mind that one year,jay looked sharper at the pre judging and ronnie came back at the night show alittle improved,politics at its best imo
Title: Re: would you agree that a contest is won at the pre judging?
Post by: Dr. Shock on May 19, 2006, 08:05:07 AM
Well, from my experience as a judge (amateur comps.), the evening posing routines have no bearing on the final scoring. Only the pre-judging counts for placings.
Title: Re: would you agree that a contest is won at the pre judging?
Post by: LuciusFox on May 19, 2006, 08:17:14 AM
Didn't the Patriots win that year?

  Yes, they did! :o
Title: Re: would you agree that a contest is won at the pre judging?
Post by: gracie bjj on May 19, 2006, 08:24:41 AM
Well, from my experience as a judge (amateur comps.), the evening posing routines have no bearing on the final scoring. Only the pre-judging counts for placings.

thats interesting,so basiclly the night show is just for entertainment for the crowd?but what if a guy looked awesome at the prejudging and somehow got alittle bloated between the pre judge and the evening show it wouldnt matter?im just starting to understand how it works which is cool
Title: Re: would you agree that a contest is won at the pre judging?
Post by: LuciusFox on May 19, 2006, 08:28:42 AM
thats interesting,so basiclly the night show is just for entertainment for the crowd?but what if a guy looked awesome at the prejudging and somehow got alittle bloated between the pre judge and the evening show it wouldnt matter?im just starting to understand how it works which is cool

  I think it's completely different in the pros. The last two rounds exist so the judges can give the show to whomever they want to, provided he was close enough earlier ;D
Title: Re: would you agree that a contest is won at the pre judging?
Post by: gracie bjj on May 19, 2006, 08:39:43 AM
  I think it's completely different in the pros. The last two rounds exist so the judges can give the show to whomever they want to, provided he was close enough earlier ;D

basiclly politics come into play in the last 2 rounds?
Title: Re: would you agree that a contest is won at the pre judging?
Post by: LuciusFox on May 19, 2006, 08:42:28 AM
basiclly politics come into play in the last 2 rounds?

 I think that it only happens when someone wins the prejudging when they were not supposed to. Basically, in 2001, when Cutler won the prejudging, the last two rounds were used to give Ronnie the victory.
Title: Re: would you agree that a contest is won at the pre judging?
Post by: gracie bjj on May 19, 2006, 08:49:30 AM
interesting,thanks for the responses bro,i learn alittle something new everyday here
Title: Re: would you agree that a contest is won at the pre judging?
Post by: thisiskeith12 on May 19, 2006, 09:25:38 AM
  Yes, they did! :o

Mysterious!
Title: Re: would you agree that a contest is won at the pre judging?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on May 19, 2006, 09:31:17 AM
I had the second post on here.......why was it deleted. Did the truth hurt??

Ron, you might want to consider listing your "extra" mods, you know the ones who don't say their not mods but have the power to delete. This is getting to be as rediclous as Mayhem!!
Title: Re: would you agree that a contest is won at the pre judging?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on May 19, 2006, 09:41:09 AM
I agree with you for the most part, but in the case of the Olympia, it's won 7-8 years in advance :-X!!
















P.S. Lets see how long this stays up for!
Title: Re: would you agree that a contest is won at the pre judging?
Post by: LuciusFox on May 19, 2006, 09:47:55 AM
Mysterious!

 The Yankees came close to winning, too, but they fell just short.