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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: the shadow on May 21, 2006, 01:27:12 AM
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This can't be happeing.. bodybuilding is going the aesthetic way.. thats a fuckin sad sight. bodybuilding was only and always was about mass monsters.. now we have a 5.9 small framed with no back, no legs, no pecs guy winning 2 pro guys in his fuckin debut.. PHIL HEATH SUCKS... dennis james and others got robbed... this sport is going the wrong way...
Very soon people will mark down these aesthetic bodies and the ticket sales will go down.. Heath won because of his fuckin hype.. ..its been awhile since i saw any mass monster win a pro show other than the olympia. This is a fuckin sad site when u see a fuckin 200lbs guy who is no more bigger than any one onstage beatin guys 50lbs bigger than him.. u call this bodybuilding.. bodybuilding is now officially RIP....
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YES, it was about time bbing goes back to the aesthetics!
Congratulations Phil!
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No they are not going back to aesthetics. This happens EVERY year at the smaller shows. Yet come Olympia time, the biggest man takes it.............same shit every year. Don't get your hopes up.
1) There is no Santa Claus
2) There is no Easter Bunny
3) Coleman will win wether he deserves it or not.
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ok the bigger guys place in the top at the olympia... but why not in the smaller shows. i have not seen any mass monster win a small show.. thats not right. the big guys should be given equal oppurtunites as small guys.. ever year i see guys like dexter jackson, darrem winning the SHOWS over and over again... that sucks.. if coleman retires and if a smaller guys wins the olympia like phil heath or dexter... i WILL STOP WATCHIN BODYBUILDING SHOWS...
and if any of these guys place in the top 5 of this years olympia beating guys like victor martinez and jay cutler.. I WILL QUITE WATCHIN BODYBUILDING. BODYBUILDING WITHOUT MASS MONSTERS IS LIKE A FOOTBALL GAME WITHOUT A BALL.. bodybuilding will soon be HISTORY... IFBB 1965-2006..RIP
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The biggest man does not take it. Ronnie and Jay are anomoleys. When they leave you will see smaller Mr. Olympias.
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BRUTAL and ALSO RIGHT
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the reason mass monsters aren't winning shows is because mass monsters aren't competing.
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the reason mass monsters aren't winning shows is because mass monsters aren't competing.
dude dennis james and alex fedorov were there.. i had dennis james winning.. this show. BODYBUILDING SUCKS
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dude dennis james and alex fedorov were there..i had dennis james winning..this show.BODYBUILDING SUCKS
Dennis James had a gut, Federov was smoother than an freshly open jar of Peanut Butter. Darrem and Phil are off the meter.
Phil has legs, a back (detailed), granted his huge arms over "shadow" his chest. But he has bodyparts in spades,
And for the Record Flex wheeler at 218-225 was beating bbers that weighed 50-60 pounds more than him.
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I would laugh if Phil entered the Olympia and stopped Coleman dead in his tracks lol oh God talk about a shake-up !! thats what the sport needs , to send a message that the Gut-Stops-Here !!
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No big-name mass monsters have competed yet this year - just be patient. Ruhl still has to qualify so at least you won't have to wait until the O to see one
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The biggest man does not take it. Ronnie and Jay are anomoleys. When they leave you will see smaller Mr. Olympias.
That's what people said when The Shadow retired then along came
BIG RONNIE ;D
The Olympia is and should always be a big mans show!
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only the naive believe that Ronnie is nothing but size and will win no matter what:
(http://www.thebiguniverse.com/coleman/IMG_8391.jpg)
in 2005, he can still take the "little guys" to school at their own game: details and taper.
Just because Ronnie is big, does NOT mean he doesn't still deserve to win.
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Strange thing about that pic of Ronnie is that even though his hams are dry, his back (although huge) seems to be holding a lot of after, or at least far from being dry!
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Strange thing about that pic of Ronnie is that even though his hams are dry, his back (although huge) seems to be holding a lot of after, or at least far from dry!
true, its not what it was in 1998 or 1999. But its still the best out there. and it shows that Ronnie, for the time being at least, is still deserving.
We shall have to see what happens in 2006.
A lot of the smaller guys have great detail.
ronnie combines at least some of that same detail with good size.
This is the magic combo that is why he still wins.
Detail alone is not good enough.
Size with detail will always come out on top.
The problem is when stuff like 1994 happens:
A larger, less detailed, bloated bb should NEVER defeat a razor sharp smaller one.
With Ronnie, you still have good amount of cuts and detail.
I think ronnie looked good in 2005, but thought he looked like shit in 2004.
That year he was holding water.
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Phil Heath deserved to win. To wish harm on someone because they beat a smooth as shit Fedorav and overrated James is pathetic.
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f**k this can't b happeing..bodybuilding is going the aesthetic way..thats a fuckin sad site.bodybuilding was only and always was about mass monsters..now we have a 5.9 small framed with no back,no legs ,no pecs guy winning 2 pro guys in his fuckin debut..PHIL HEATH SUCKS...dennis james and others got robbed...this sport is going the wrong way...very soon people will mark down these aesthtic bodies and the ticket sales will go down..f**k PHIL HEATH.heath won because of his fuckin hype..i hope he dies in a fuckin car crash..its been awhile since i saw any mass monster win a pro show other than the olympia.this is a fuckin sad site when u see a fuckin 200lbs guy who is no more bigger than any one onstage beatin guys 50lbs bigger than him..u call this bodybuilding..bodybuildi ng is now officially RIP....
I think Heath and those like him are future Mr Olympias or at least top guys in future o's. Hey now, nobody, even me, is saying we should make top bodybuilders look like swimmers. It is good however to remember it is a PHYSIQUE not freak contest.
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wtf, phil heath is in pretty good shape, if it was going to smaller guys darreem would have won. heath got a good build and good arms, tris. again wtf.
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Am looking forward to see Ronnie's disproportion arms.
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What? ???
his torn tricep.. that ain't going to be the same size anymore
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MESS Monsters is more like it.... can you honestly say that a 5'11" man with a gut the size of the moon and who weighs in at 300lbs at 3% BF is a BODY-BUILDER??? ... the mass generation are really just hardcore STEROID abusers... the aesthetic bodybuilders remind us of better days in the iron age, back when BBers could do the silly vacuum pose...
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shadow?,...go brush up on your IFBB history.The feds been around since before 1965 & maybe then you'll realize why some fans of the bb'ing hobby are calling for the return of the pre mass monsters.
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who do you gys think is better. dorian or ronnie
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who do you gys think is better. dorian or ronnie
Arnold.
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Arnold.
i woulda said sergio like
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Read my post from yesterday.....
Weed, In case you haven't noticed it's going back to the "Zane-like" physique meaning it's going back to the lighter, more ripped type of physique that have great genetics and thats what has been winning the shows since the beginning of the season exept for Warren Branch. I said quite a few years ago that these "mass monsters" cannot hold that type of physique and that the days of the so called "mass monsters" will be coming to and end and sure as shit it's heading that way with the exeption of the Olympia. I don't train bodybuilders anymore, but when I did I had a few state champs, 6 top 3 National Champs and 3 top 5 Ms. Olympia's one and one third place Ms. Olympia. I get greater satisfaction training athletes working with obese children and the general public.
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Well - apart from the people who like to hijack or ruin threads, the topic is a good one - the Mass Monsters vs. the Physique that is attainable. Who will win?
Arguements from both sides have been drawn out a number of times, but the fact is that people are really tired of seeing the guy, while wanting to see muscle, and a cool physique. Mass monsters have been let in the past posses great muscles with a large gut - I think what we are seeing here is that if you do have a large guy, you will be marked down.
Hands down, regardless, Phil Heath won that show. Physique was great.
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phil heath is da man
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phil heath is da man
I second you on that!
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and i bump that
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There was an old radio show called The Shadow. There was a great line in that show that went "Only the Shadow Knows ". In this case however, The Shadow doesn't know shit!
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There was an old radio show called The Shadow. There was a great line in that show that went "Only the Shadow Knows ". In this case however, The Shadow doesn't know shit!
yeah, cuzz he's never done it. ever.
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I can't wait to see Phil in the future.
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No they are not going back to aesthetics. This happens EVERY year at the smaller shows. Yet come Olympia time, the biggest man takes it.............same shit every year. Don't get your hopes up.
1) There is no Santa Claus
2) There is no Easter Bunny
3) Coleman will win wether he deserves it or not.
ronnies the best who do you think should win jay cutler what does he have going for him other than he got creative with the protan and claimed his back was improved nothing .I respect phil heath because he is lightyears ahead of jay just like most of the IFBB so get over yourself.