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Title: Loading Night Before/Morning of Show
Post by: OakExpress on May 23, 2006, 05:23:57 PM
Folks,

I wanted to get some of your opinion.  Some people do the following:

1) Cut water Friday afternoon
2) Friday evening at pizza (salty with lots of meat)
3) Saturday morning the load up on bacon, eggs, and pancakes

Then later that day then compete say (10:00 AM or so).

I'm not big on this idea.  I figure if you look good eating clean, why change it by throwing something completely different at your body?  It seems like a gamble.  If you've busted your but through 12-16 weeks of prep, why take the gamble.

Thoughts?

Title: Re: Loading Night Before/Morning of Show
Post by: The BEAST on May 23, 2006, 07:30:06 PM
I would strongly suggest not doing that unless you have tried it previously.  Like you said stick to the basics...if you still feel flat on Saturday morning maybe get some wheat pancakes, a little syrup and steak but too much sodium may cause you many problems...
Title: Re: Loading Night Before/Morning of Show
Post by: jonno gb on May 24, 2006, 03:25:41 AM
That looks very risky.Your body could easily have an adverse reaction to the different foods..
I have used the following to good effect.Try low carb from saturday to tuesday(less than 100 g-morning and postworkout only),wednesday very high carb approx 500 g (from baked potatoes),thursday moderate to high carb,friday is a monitoring day-add more carbs if you think it's necessary but check how you look in the mirror every hour or so to make sure you dont spill over.For supper on friday have a fillet steak and a glass of dry white wine and the same for breakfast on saturday.

From monday to thursday drink 8 litres of water a day,then 4 ltrs until friday lunchtime.Also have about 10 grams of vitamin C throughout the day on friday to dry you out even further.


Title: Re: Loading Night Before/Morning of Show
Post by: OakExpress on May 24, 2006, 09:36:22 AM
Thanks folks.. I do appreciate the input. :)
Title: Re: Loading Night Before/Morning of Show
Post by: unbatrainer on May 24, 2006, 07:15:14 PM
do not cut your water if u r natural no water no cuts
Title: Re: Loading Night Before/Morning of Show
Post by: The BEAST on May 24, 2006, 08:21:53 PM
do not cut your water if u r natural no water no cuts

Well, I would have to disagree with this...I water load (over 2 gallons) for 7 days, cut it to 1.5 G on Thursdy and then 1/2 Gallon Friday stopping all water 12 hours before the show.  I liked it and am adding taraxatone this time on Friday night (maybe)...I have cuts and I am in Figure...
Title: Re: Loading Night Before/Morning of Show
Post by: unbatrainer on May 24, 2006, 11:10:08 PM
hit and  mis
Title: Re: Loading Night Before/Morning of Show
Post by: jonno gb on May 25, 2006, 03:11:43 AM
do not cut your water if u r natural no water no cuts
Totally disagree-I'm natural and cutting my water really brings out the cuts,giving that dry,hard look,although you do need to be in good conditon for it to make much difference. 
Title: Re: Loading Night Before/Morning of Show
Post by: Oldschool Flip on May 25, 2006, 03:15:43 AM
do not cut your water if u r natural no water no cuts
I also disagree on this. If you have a "film" of water underneath your skin it's from..............water. DUH.
Title: Re: Loading Night Before/Morning of Show
Post by: jonno gb on May 25, 2006, 04:34:29 AM
The only reason for not seeing a difference was if what you perceived to be water was actually bodyfat :-\
Title: Re: Loading Night Before/Morning of Show
Post by: littleguns on May 25, 2006, 06:07:51 AM
I am a natty and always cut my water to maybe 2-3 oz's per meal, just enough to get the food down. The moring of the show I would suck on ice cubes...

Good luck to both of you..
Title: Re: Loading Night Before/Morning of Show
Post by: OakExpress on May 25, 2006, 06:14:48 AM
One thing for sure.  Cutting water if you are still holding fat doesn't do much.  You have to be very lean and then dropping your water will sharpen you up.  I beleive that going the less radical route on water is better for naturals.

1) Drink 1.5-2.0 gallons per day all the way through Thursday
2) Friday cut water in half and drink throughout the day
3) Sip as needed Saturday morning before prejudging

Radical changes can produce radical response.  What the response is is not always what you expect.  Don't forget, 75% of your muscle is made up of water.  As a bodybuilder, I want to make sure that my muscles are looking full.
Title: Re: Loading Night Before/Morning of Show
Post by: unbatrainer on May 25, 2006, 08:54:15 AM
cut your water and look flat
Title: Re: Loading Night Before/Morning of Show
Post by: The BEAST on May 25, 2006, 09:46:34 AM
cut your water and look flat

 ::)  I also know of people taking high quality creatine when dropping there water to pull the water into the muscles, while drying you out at the same time.
Title: Re: Loading Night Before/Morning of Show
Post by: unbatrainer on May 25, 2006, 10:29:17 AM
you can not trick the body it will backfire
Title: Re: Loading Night Before/Morning of Show
Post by: jonno gb on May 25, 2006, 10:47:18 AM
::)  I also know of people taking high quality creatine when dropping there water to pull the water into the muscles, while drying you out at the same time.
I know WNBF Pro Jon Harris swears by that and he has twice finished second in the pro worlds.
Title: Re: Loading Night Before/Morning of Show
Post by: OakExpress on May 25, 2006, 11:17:47 AM
::)  I also know of people taking high quality creatine when dropping there water to pull the water into the muscles, while drying you out at the same time.

High quality creatine?  Do you have an example of a product you would recommend?  Is see that Skip Lacour (sp?) does the same thing with creatine.
Title: Re: Loading Night Before/Morning of Show
Post by: War-Horse on May 25, 2006, 11:44:44 AM
VPX, has a ethyll creatine that is great for dry hard gains.  Called CEX.   Bodybuilding .com has a great price on it.    Dont get anything that requires a sugar load.

Dont play the salt game.  Just switch to distilled water on friday. ( 1/2 gallon at most.) while eating carbs 50 grams a meal for 5-6 meals.

Sat morn, ice cubes and bannana.
Title: Re: Loading Night Before/Morning of Show
Post by: unbatrainer on May 25, 2006, 11:55:01 AM
all the trick r for guys on juice
if u r all ready in shape y mess up play with your carbs and u wil drop water