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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: 240 is Back on May 23, 2006, 10:03:53 PM
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glad to see you're keepin yourself busy man ;D
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eh, i was building another site and stumbled upon it. I didn't know his arms were really that good.
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he always gets robbed :'(
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he always gets robbed :'(
I would have had him over Heath even if it was close , higher at the O and winning the GNC over Victor in 2004
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I would have had him over Heath even if it was close , higher at the O and winning the GNC over Victor in 2004
i agree with him beating victor
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speaking of victor where is that crazy mother fucker 8)
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Arms look great, shoulders look funky :-\
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speaking of victor where is that crazy mother fucker 8)
Vic M? He gets picked up selling drugs every 9 or 10 months. He's probably due.
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240 : Now post a pic of Heaths arm in the same angle. Not that Darrems arms dont look great. But standing alone everyone looks good. I think Heath's arms are even better.
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Vic M? He gets picked up selling drugs every 9 or 10 months. He's probably due.
How do you get away with a comment like that which is nothing but deformation?
You'd retract [edit] that if you had a shred of decency about you.
I'm not holding my breath though . . .
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How do you get away with a comment like that which is nothing but deformation?
You'd retract [edit] that if you had a shred of decency about you.
I'm not holding my breath though . . .
welcome to getbig
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How do you get away with a comment like that which is nothing but deformation?
You'd retract [edit] that if you had a shred of decency about you.
I'm not holding my breath though . . .
Vic M has numerous arrests for selling drugs. I'm not making that up. However, he keeps getting interviewed, talks about how "now I'm flying straight", then he gets arrested for selling gear or rec drugs to an undercover agent.
If you still feel my words are inappropriate, even though you see it's based in fact, Rottmag, I'll remove it.
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Vic M has numerous arrests for selling drugs. I'm not making that up. However, he keeps getting interviewed, talks about how "now I'm flying straight", then he gets arrested for selling gear or rec drugs to an undercover agent.
If you still feel my words are inappropriate, even though you see it's based in fact, Rottmag, I'll remove it.
Facts?
What are the facts?
He's been to prison once.
Other than that, you speak of several arrests.. What are these "arrests"?
When did they take place, and for what was he arrested specifically?
YIP
Zack
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Facts?
What are the facts?
He's been to prison once.
Other than that, you speak of several arrests.. What are these "arrests"?
When did they take place, and for what was he arrested specifically?
YIP
Zack
I don't know the specifics, as that is something for vic and his lawyers and the law enforcements of NY to worry about. My Vic M arrest newsletter hasn't come yet this month :) But I could be justified in saying that he is a former drug dealer, based upon his own words in MD about his years of dealing, and how he only got caught because he got greedy and sold to strangers.
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I don't know the specifics, as that is something for vic and his lawyers and the law enforcements of NY to worry about. My Vic M arrest newsletter hasn't come yet this month :) But I could be justified in saying that he is a former drug dealer, based upon his own words in MD about his years of dealing, and how he only got caught because he got greedy and sold to strangers.
translation: "oh shit you caught me pulling facts out of my ass"
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its not illegal if you dont get caught :P
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translation: "oh shit you caught me pulling facts out of my ass"
Dude, Vic M is a repeated drug dealer. He admitted to selling, getting caught, and doing a jail stint for it. Then, I believe he admitted in MD that he was again arrested, this time for recreational substance dealing. I don't know those details.
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Are we still on topic? >:(
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I dunno 240.
I usually enjoy reading your contributions here very much so but that comment left a sour taste in my mouth. I don't know if there was a bit of tongue-in-cheek but, nonetheless, it was inappropriate IMHO.
You do with it as you please [life will go on for me] but I just found it very impertinent towards a great athlete in our sport as well as being totally uncalled for.
I've met Vic on more than a handfull of ocassions over the last few years at shows, expos and whatnot and he's been nothing but courteous, respectful and gracious on every ocassion. Unlike your comments in this thread.
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im not a big darrem fan but one thing he does have is great biceps.
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Dude, Vic M is a repeated drug dealer. He admitted to selling, getting caught, and doing a jail stint for it. Then, I believe he admitted in MD that he was again arrested, this time for recreational substance dealing. I don't know those details.
can you offer proof of "several arrests" or are you going to hide behind "i think i read that somewhere"? also, do you honestly believe he's the only bodybuilder who sells? they all use, what makes you think it's just him and dj that sold?
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http://www.longislandexchange.com/background_check.html
look it up yourself, whiner. Vic has been arrested at least 2ce for dealing drugs. This is a fact.
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I dunno 240.
I usually enjoy reading your contributions here very much so but that comment left a sour taste in my mouth. I don't know if there was a bit of tongue-in-cheek but, nonetheless, it was inappropriate IMHO.
You do with it as you please [life will go on for me] but I just found it very impertinent towards a great athlete in our sport as well as being totally uncalled for.
I've met Vic on more than a handfull of ocassions over the last few years at shows, expos and whatnot and he's been nothing but courteous, respectful and gracious on every ocassion. Unlike your comments in this thread.
I deleted it, as it was in poor taste and I didn't expect to offend anyone.
I do stand by the fact that Vic has been arrested twice for selling. I don't know his DOB so I am not going to stress it too much, but yes, vic is a repeat offender. I know many people are, and that's their choice. But facts are facts, and if you don't like my words fellas, do your research.
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this was an issue for two reasons, too-fawty. for one, you said several arrests and only have proof of one and think you remember reading about another in a magazine. for another, it's pointless to point out because all that separates him from the rest is that he got caught. granted vic dabbled in rec drugs as well, but i don't really have a problem with that either. people should be allowed to use whatever chemicals they like.
anyhow, your link gives us two guys named victor martinez. one was born in 1940 and the other in 1948. so is vic m 66 or only 58? either way he looks fucking fantastic for his age.
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Find a better link then. I didn't want to spend 30 minutes looking the stuff up. Vic did 5 months I think. Ronnie visited him in the joint even. Vic wrote all about it. Also explained his deeds and how he got caught. Then, in his column a few months after being released, he said that he was stupid and got arrested again for moving a small amt of rec drugs. I think he missed the NY Pro prep as a result- he's in the NY Pro ads but wasn't in the show.
ANd yeah, many of the guys deal, but many don't. It's fun to group them all together, but do you really think Dugdale or Farnsworth are moving weight? Sure, they use. but as you said "because all that separates him from the rest is that he got caught". Not 100% of pro Bbers deal drugs. period.
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anyhow, your link gives us two guys named victor martinez. one was born in 1940 and the other in 1948. so is vic m 66 or only 58? either way he looks fucking fantastic for his age.
Where are the arrests of the bodybuilder Vic Martinez?
Find a better link then. I didn't want to spend 30 minutes looking the stuff up. Vic did 5 months I think. Ronnie visited him in the joint even. Vic wrote all about it. Also explained his deeds and how he got caught. Then, in his column a few months after being released, he said that he was stupid and got arrested again for moving a small amt of rec drugs. I think he missed the NY Pro prep as a result- he's in the NY Pro ads but wasn't in the show.
What about the other arrests?
He's been to jail once. That's not a secret. They even did a main story on it in MD.
But where are the facts that backs the claims of several "arrests"?
YIP
Zack
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the lesson of this should basically be don't say shit unless you can back it up. you said several arrests and it's up to you to prove that you weren't making shit up. it's not my responsibility to play fact checker for every claim someone makes on here.
yeah we all know he got popped once, it was a huge deal. a second time may or may not be true but that's still not "several arrests" any more than i can say i have "several arms".
you tried to use it like it was a moral judgement on him. there are countries where what he did was perfectly legal, so unless you're saying you have a personal problem with drugs in which case you need to find a different activity to follow, you're using simple law as your basis for making personal attacks. if he got arrested 5 times for steroid possession, would you still act like he's a horrible criminal and no one else is?
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the lesson of this should basically be don't say shit unless you can back it up. you said several arrests and it's up to you to prove that you weren't making shit up. it's not my responsibility to play fact checker for every claim someone makes on here.
yeah we all know he got popped once, it was a huge deal. a second time may or may not be true but that's still not "several arrests" any more than i can say i have "several arms".
you tried to use it like it was a moral judgement on him. there are countries where what he did was perfectly legal, so unless you're saying you have a personal problem with drugs in which case you need to find a different activity to follow, you're using simple law as your basis for making personal attacks. if he got arrested 5 times for steroid possession, would you still act like he's a horrible criminal and no one else is?
240 just got brutalized! ;D
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yawn. this isn't a discussion about the morality of US drug laws. Vic M has been arrested at least twice for drugs. period. Several = 2 or more. We're arguing semantics here when we could be curing cancer or solving this pesky gravity thing.
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240 just got brutalized! ;D
you just got tea bagged!
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yawn. this isn't a discussion about the morality of US drug laws. Vic M has been arrested at least twice for drugs. period. Several = 2 or more. We're arguing semantics here when we could be curing cancer or solving this pesky gravity thing.
Vic M has numerous arrests for selling drugs. I'm not making that up.
"Numerous" Your word. Not mine.
You feel that being arrested twice is "numerous times"?
YIP
Zack
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you just got tea bagged!
Actually, I haven't had tea in weeks.
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You feel that being arrested twice is "numerous times"?
Yes. However, I could use 'multiple' if that is less offensive :)
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Every person with the last name "martinez" has been arrested a few times. This is fact.
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I looked fwd to a little feisty debate tonight on a good topic, instead it's whether 'numerous' entails 2, or 4, or 6, and how someone was offended I called Vic M a drug dealer and how i was 'brutalized' cause I didn't know vic's arrest dates.
Watered down since we're all playing nice. We could be goading king into a false sense of security, followed by a good ol maltdown. instead we're arguing over grammar and state records. Boringish.
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I looked fwd to a little feisty debate tonight on a good topic, instead it's whether 'numerous' entails 2, or 4, or 6, and how someone was offended I called Vic M a drug dealer and how i was 'brutalized' cause I didn't know vic's arrest dates.
Watered down since we're all playing nice. We could be goading king into a false sense of security, followed by a good ol maltdown. instead we're arguing over grammar and state records. Boringish.
What's boringish with sticking to facts?
"false sense of security"
I don't get it. Are you only here to piss the Pro's off?
YIP
Zack
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I don't get it. Are you only here to piss the Pro's off?
nah, i'm here to follow the sport, and engage in a few discussions to stay sharp and be entertained, like most of us.
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I think the 04 SOS was the last time darrem looked really really good, he has lost detail in his upperbody since :-\
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Great Pic. I know many will disagree but besides Ronnie I think Darrem has one of the best peaks in the game.
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um why would 240 have to post a comparison of arm shots? the fixed IFBB shows never have
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Vic has two arrests that I know of, one in NY for steroids and one in NJ for rec substances.
One can google or Vivisimo this info very easily.
Vic was at the NY pro show working the MHP booth and being fun-loving with all.
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http://www.longislandexchange.com/background_check.html
look it up yourself, whiner. Vic has been arrested at least 2ce for dealing drugs. This is a fact.
i dont know if i did it right, but i found 2 victor martinez, and one was born in 1940 and the other in 1948!!?!?! ???
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I looked fwd to a little feisty debate tonight on a good topic, instead it's whether 'numerous' entails 2, or 4, or 6, and how someone was offended I called Vic M a drug dealer and how i was 'brutalized' cause I didn't know vic's arrest dates.
Watered down since we're all playing nice. We could be goading king into a false sense of security, followed by a good ol maltdown. instead we're arguing over grammar and state records. Boringish.
you don't have vic's arrest dates or even any proof of them at all. all we're going on is trusting you that you didnt' make up that article in md. you tried to prove it to us with that bogus link that took us to two victor martinezes, clearly neither of which were the one we're looking for.
you said "numerous" which is not something you say to mean "twice". you said it because you were indicating that vic is a frequent criminal and even made a "joke" about his monthly arrest newsletter. you clearly wanted to give the impression that vic has a mile-long rap sheet and he's arrested so often you can't keep track of them all. all you had to do was man the fuck up and say "you're right, i have nothing to back up what i said" but instead you puss out and talk about semantics.
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magoo, vic m has two drug arrests that we know of. period. ask ron, ask blechman, hell, ask vic himself. He's been arrested twice that I know of.
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Every pro bodybuilder deals steroids at one point or another. Simple as that. From Ronnie to the bottom of the pro ranks. Its true. Maybe theyre a middle man or something but guilt by association. Doubt these guys have labs in their backyard but somehow or another they are involved. I smoked weed years back and would sell a friend a blunt or two. THATS DEALING.