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Naturally benched 315 or more?
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I have benched 315 and never have taken a steroid ever...
So there you go Barbarian Bro
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benching 315 naturally is hardly a standard of excellence, i was doing that in high school.
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Naturally benched 315 or more?
in highschool i did 405 with the bench shirt and 355 raw
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320............... On a smith........ :-\
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I didn't know 315 was a huge number for a natural ???
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I did 455 in college while playing football, this was in 1990.
I did 315 for the first time when I was 16 yrs old....I was so psyched at the time.
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400 for a natural is amazing. 315 is not as impressive, but still pretty rare from the naturals I've seen. The only naturals I know who bench over 350 I only know on the boards, not in person.
most ive seen a natural do is 385 for 7 - with "gym form" though
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I push my 350lb lady off me at least twice a week............
does that count?
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I did 455 in college while playing football, this was in 1990.
I did 315 for the first time when I was 16 yrs old....I was so psyched at the time.
let me get this straight, you were naturally benching a little less than ronnie coleman and bertil fox while at college ;D
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That is an excellent lift, natural or otherwise.
The winner of the meet in Thunder Bay put up 465 and failed at 495. He was 5'10 / 290 and juiced to the gills. He later won the deadlift competition with a lift of 720.
The population is over 100,000 here. Everybody seems to know so many naturals who are lifting 400+, but at any gym I go to, even seeing people work with 225 is relatively rare.
ive never seen a "natural" hit more than 400. The people here who say they can do this should video their lifts. I used 315 as an example because naturally that is a lot of weight.
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Urban BB legend #14
Jay Cutler's first day in the gym benched lifted 225 (with ease).....
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Urban BB legend #14
Jay Cutler's first day in the gym benched lifted 225 (with ease).....
i thought he seriously said 315, first try?
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Urban BB legend #14
Jay Cutler's first day in the gym benched lifted 225 (with ease).....
wasnt it a 315 incline?
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The highest I ever got was 375 natural for a single. I have seen some o-lineman in college (small div. III school) bench well over 400lbs. Granted, they were like 6'5" and 290lbs.
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I've done 315 for 1.
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The highest I ever got was 375 natural for a single. I have seen some o-lineman in college (small div. III school) bench well over 400lbs. Granted, they were like 6'5" and 290lbs.
do u think tnhey were juiced?
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The heavy lifting crap is dumb for BB , the wieght will gradually go up, stregnth training is diffrent from BB.
A guy by the name of Lee Haney says that muscles cant see weights... you think he might be one to something ???
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I got 405 naturally. Seems like it took forever though, was 31 when I finally did it three summers ago.
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wasnt it a 315 incline?
Yep, with the gravity of saturn - making it even heavier.
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Yep, with the gravity of saturn - making it even heavier.
its because of haters like you and alex that big poppa doesnt post on the main boards anymore
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405 in 1986 at 25 years old at about 6'2" 225 pounds. Pressed it up with no bounce. Did 315 in 1980 at 19 at about 200 pounds. I was natural. I force fed myself so much food both times that I would get sick. I did no cardio. I took a weight gainer shake a couple times a day. If I ate what I felt comfortable eating I lost weight, size and strength pretty quickly. Today at 230 I bench about 330 for two or three reps on the 15 degree nautilus machine whatever that equates to in free weights.
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its because of haters like you and alex that big poppa doesnt post on the main boards anymore
Is that what you call Jay ??? Big Pappa ?
Barbarian Bro, how does it feel to go from Ironage Legend/Mythical status ...to being a troll ??
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Naturally benched 315 or more?
For most guys over 200 it's not that big a deal. I'm more impressed when I see some skinny kid about a buck sixtyfive throw 315 up for a few. That's about double bodyweight.
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Is that what you call Jay ??? Big Pappa ?
Barbarian Bro, how does it feel to go from Ironage Legend/Mythical status ...to being a troll ??
I'm not DavidPaul the barbarian brother you moron.
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OH im sorry ... i was under the impression you were ... ::)
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I'm not DavidPaul the barbarian brother you moron.
I can't believe he was that dumb to think you were the "David Paul".
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Naturally benched 315 or more?
I benched 315 in 12th grade, naturally
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Can anyone recommend a good bench shirt? I would like to see how much it helps.
i used a inzer single single ply but never got the hang of it so i gave it away and haven't used one since
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Yup, got it for a couple about 17-18 years ago. Couldn't go anywhere near it now. Hell, don't even flat bench anymore. My ego was checked at the door a long time ago. :'(
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let me get this straight, you were naturally benching a little less than ronnie coleman and bertil fox while at college ;D
Yes I did 405 as a Sr. in HS. When I got to college as a freshman, I did 385 on my last camp test of 10 straight 40 yd. dashes, agility drills and max squat. The bench was the last test. (I was 17 BTW, and it was the 4th best bench on a team of 100 guys. ) All these uppper classmen on the team were asking me "what are you taking". I had ZERO idea what they were talking about, this was in 1987. I never was able to get higher than that, as a natural you eventually just tap out strength wise, or at least I did.
I am naturally very strong, in 1998 I was doing shoulder pressess with 300 lbs and I ruptured 3 discs in my neck. Had major surgery etc...I never train with anything over 225 anymore, because of my neck.
I am a lifetime natural, I have nothing to prove or lie about here, it was, was it was...I have seen other naturals bench this much as well, why your so surprised is beyond me.
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Yes I did 405 as a Sr. in HS. When I got to college as a freshman, I did 385 on my last camp test of 10 straight 40 yd. dashes, agility drills and max squat. The bench was the last test. (I was 17 BTW, and it was the 4th best bench on a team of 100 guys. ) All these uppper classmen on the team were asking me "what are you taking". I had ZERO idea what they were talking about, this was in 1987. I never was able to get higher than that, as a natural you eventually just tap out strength wise, or at least I did.
I am naturally very strong, in 1998 I was doing shoulder pressess with 300 lbs and I ruptured 3 discs in my neck. Had major surgery etc...I never train with anything over 225 anymore, because of my neck.
I am a lifetime natural, I have nothing to prove or lie about here, it was, was it was...I have seen other naturals bench this much as well, why your so surprised is beyond me.
300 on shoulder press is INSANE! Too bad about the neck injury. That was in '98, does it still give you problems or are you just being careful?
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I weigh 178, with 4 to 5% bf and I benched 305 for 8 the other day. My other lifts kind of suck, though. I am natural and don't like creatine, cuz it gives me a bulky look. (touch and go reps, btw.)
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Can anyone recommend a good bench shirt? I would like to see how much it helps.
Generally, if you're a fairly lean guy, the Titan Fury will be your best bet.
If you're a bit on the heavy side, like Wolfy eg, a Titan F6 would probably suit you better.
It's the same kind of ply in both of them.
Inzer Rage is similar to both these. Avoid Crains shirts though. Generally have a bad rep.
YIP
Zack
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Do you think these bench shirts could bring a 320 bench up to 350 Zack?
out of curiosity, and not being a dick, but why? don't get pissed, I don't want an argument, I just don't undrstand why it matters if a shirt would help you add 30 pounds? Oh, and yes it probably would.
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Do you think these bench shirts could bring a 320 bench up to 350 Zack?
You need to change your training.
Train to be strongest in the top part of the lift, where the shirt don't help.
Board presses should become a regular tool in your routine.
If so, you should be able to bench 405 lbs in 4-5 months.
YIP
Zack
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You need to change your training.
Train to be strongest in the top part of the lift, where the shirt don't help.
Board presses should become a regular tool in your routine.
If so, you should be able to bench 405 lbs in 4-5 months.
YIP
Zack
Let me add that your regular bench will probably take a slight jump up as well, since you're training with higher weights.
Use the shirt once every other week or every third week after the first couple of weeks.
YIP
Zack
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Myself and my training partners are nowhere near as strong as most people in this thread yet we always get stares using the weights we use.
Makes me wonder where everyone trains.
in my gym, when someone does 315, most ppl watch casually. That's a lot of weight.
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in my gym, when someone does 315, most ppl watch casually. That's a lot of weight.
not on the internet, for a natural lifter tis fukall, we should behind the neck pressing while still at kindergarten.
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not on the internet, for a natural lifter tis fukall, we should behind the neck pressing while still at kindergarten.
without any bench shirt, i can think of maybe 6-7 guys that I've seen rep out with 315, and 3 or 4 times that I've seen someone really do 405 for clean reps.
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without any bench shirt, i can think of maybe 6-7 guys that I've seen rep out with 315, and 3 or 4 times that I've seen someone really do 405 for clean reps.
yeah, but most people in Florida are like 90.
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I'd say 315 is good for the average gym rat, 405 for a natural BB, 500+ for roided or just naturally big guys like 250 lbs. and over. I think a better benchmark is how much you can lift relative to your bodyweight.
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Most I have ever seen a natty guy do is 405 for 7 solid reps.Guy I played ball with in highschool. Kid was 185 ripped in like 8th grade lol. He did it junior year in college at about 235. I have done over 300 for a single at 210 natty. I benched the 130 lb dbs 6 times last night and I am a little bitch ;D
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Most I have ever seen a natty guy do is 405 for 7 solid reps. I have done over 300 for a single. at 210 natty. I benched the 130 lb dbs 6 times last night and I am a little bitch ;D
db's are so much harder for me. I am lucky to do 90s and I can flat bench 300 like its nothing. I think loading them actually gasses me(my strength, not cardio), I must be a puss.
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db's are so much harder for me. I am lucky to do 90s and I can flat bench 300 like its nothing. I think loading them actually gasses me, I must be a puss.
I bet if you trained with them for a solid month you could press the 130s. It is all in your head my man.
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I bet if you trained with them for a solid month you could press the 130s. It is all in your head my man.
Agreed, DB's require more stabilization, your bench will go up if you get strong on using DB's.
130's are not too shabby!
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Bertil, Ronnie Coleman, Dennis James, and all the best benchers in the history of bodybuilding could not do much more than 500. I would say 550 is probably where their max was, although Dennis James and Don Youngblood both claimed 585+.
I'm pretty sure the guys you mention have repped 495 a few times. Coleman does 495 for 5 or 6 in his video.
There are some freaks of nature out there, Ryan Kennelly does 405 for 20 for a warm-up. Our own getbigger Onlyme did over 20 with 405 in a contest.
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Our own getbigger Onlyme did over 20 with 405 in a contest.
i know guys who squat that!
;D
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I did 345 at a body weight of about 150 natural, no bench shirt and in clean form a few years back.
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I have not done a max bench in a very long time but last fall (around oct) late night at a small party at my house while stoned i did 290 after 2-3 warmups in my smith machine (didn't make anyother attempts) at 6' 175-180lbs, but i don't remember for sure. Either way i am 200lbs now and i doubt i would not have a problem on a lift day putting up 315 for atleast 2. I doubt i will make an attempt anytime soon though.
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Agreed, DB's require more stabilization, your bench will go up if you get strong on using DB's.
130's are not too shabby!
Thanks boss!
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i know guys who squat that!
;D
Lmao.....
Kieth is strong as shit!
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I heard that the record for 150 in body weight was 342, but that must be erroneous information if you have done more.
definitely wrong info.
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Anyone here know have a list of the real records by weight class?
150 bwt. would put a guy in the 165 class which is 148-165 and the record for the 165 class is around the mid 500's or maybe closer to 600.
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Anyone here know have a list of the real records by weight class?
52kg Andrzej Stanaszek 1971 POL 50.00 182.5 05.11.2003Vejle DEN
56kg Konstantin Pavlov 1973 RUS 56.00 190.0 19.05.2005Hamm LUX
60kg Ayrat Zakiev 1981 RUS 59.71 210.0 19.05.2005 Hamm LUX
67.5kg Ravil Kazakov 1982 RUS 67.20 232.5 10.11.2005 Miami USA
75kg Alexander Gromov 1981 RUS 74.70 240.0 11.05.2006Prostejov CZE *
82.5kg Jan Wegiera 1965 POL 82.50 260.0 12.05.2006 Prostejov CZE *
90kg Jan Wegiera 1965 POL 84.75 263.0 19.07.2005 Duisburg GER
100kg Ivan Freydun 1981 UKR 99.60 290.0 12.11.2005 Miami USA
110kg Orhan Bilican 1978 BEL 108.00 285.5 13.05.2006 Prostejov CZE *
125kg Yevgen Yarymbash 1983 UKR 123.80 325.0 13.11.2005Miami USA
125+kg Brian Siders 1978 USA 152.70 351.0 30.04.2006 Duluth USA
IPF records.
Single ply shirts, the biggest federation. To have a record valid, the lifter need to pass a WADA doping test after the lift. So they are clean... when they lift at least. 8)
YIP
Zack
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52kg Andrzej Stanaszek 1971 POL 50.00 182.5 05.11.2003Vejle DEN
56kg Konstantin Pavlov 1973 RUS 56.00 190.0 19.05.2005Hamm LUX
60kg Ayrat Zakiev 1981 RUS 59.71 210.0 19.05.2005 Hamm LUX
67.5kg Ravil Kazakov 1982 RUS 67.20 232.5 10.11.2005 Miami USA
75kg Alexander Gromov 1981 RUS 74.70 240.0 11.05.2006Prostejov CZE *
82.5kg Jan Wegiera 1965 POL 82.50 260.0 12.05.2006 Prostejov CZE *
90kg Jan Wegiera 1965 POL 84.75 263.0 19.07.2005 Duisburg GER
100kg Ivan Freydun 1981 UKR 99.60 290.0 12.11.2005 Miami USA
110kg Orhan Bilican 1978 BEL 108.00 285.5 13.05.2006 Prostejov CZE *
125kg Yevgen Yarymbash 1983 UKR 123.80 325.0 13.11.2005Miami USA
125+kg Brian Siders 1978 USA 152.70 351.0 30.04.2006 Duluth USA
IPF records.
Single ply shirts, the biggest federation. To have a record valid, the lifter need to pass a WADA doping test after the lift. So they are clean... when they lift at least. 8)
YIP
Zack
Nice. Do you have a list of RAW records for the various weight classes?
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I broke the high school bench record when I was a sophmore.....365lbs for a single!
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i don't think they even keep raw records anymore that's like asking what is the record in hockey for goal scoring in the pre helmet era, who gives a shit, the rules NOWADAYS is you can wear a shirt.
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Before my surgery I was able to get 315 for 6-8 reps, I was 20 years old at the time and weighed around 215
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I decided to search for power lifting world records and came by this
http://www.nuvo.net/archive/2003/06/25/worlds_strongest_man.html
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I first got a 315 bench in early 2005. My current max is a little over 380 at 230 lb bodyweight.
I don't know about everyone else, but it was hard as hell to make further progress once I got to 350.
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not on the internet, for a natural lifter tis fukall, we should behind the neck pressing while still at kindergarten.
why is it so surprising that a majority of people here would be able to put up 315 naturally? it's self-selection . . . most people who aren't serious about lifting weights wouldn't go to the trouble of registering and posting . . . unless they had lucius fox tendencies.
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Yes I did 405 as a Sr. in HS. When I got to college as a freshman, I did 385 on my last camp test of 10 straight 40 yd. dashes, agility drills and max squat. The bench was the last test. (I was 17 BTW, and it was the 4th best bench on a team of 100 guys. ) All these uppper classmen on the team were asking me "what are you taking". I had ZERO idea what they were talking about, this was in 1987. I never was able to get higher than that, as a natural you eventually just tap out strength wise, or at least I did.
I am naturally very strong, in 1998 I was doing shoulder pressess with 300 lbs and I ruptured 3 discs in my neck. Had major surgery etc...I never train with anything over 225 anymore, because of my neck.
I am a lifetime natural, I have nothing to prove or lie about here, it was, was it was...I have seen other naturals bench this much as well, why your so surprised is beyond me.
Im with you man. I did not even play big time college football and we had quite a few in the 405 range and a couple exceeding that. A couple of the Samoans on the team would still be able to bench 405 immediately postseason! Drove me nuts. I dont think a 315 bench press is impressive at all unless that person has an extremely light bodyweight. If someone is juiced and only able to single 315 something is seriously wrong.
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52kg Andrzej Stanaszek 1971 POL 50.00 182.5 05.11.2003Vejle DEN
56kg Konstantin Pavlov 1973 RUS 56.00 190.0 19.05.2005Hamm LUX
60kg Ayrat Zakiev 1981 RUS 59.71 210.0 19.05.2005 Hamm LUX
67.5kg Ravil Kazakov 1982 RUS 67.20 232.5 10.11.2005 Miami USA
75kg Alexander Gromov 1981 RUS 74.70 240.0 11.05.2006Prostejov CZE *
82.5kg Jan Wegiera 1965 POL 82.50 260.0 12.05.2006 Prostejov CZE *
90kg Jan Wegiera 1965 POL 84.75 263.0 19.07.2005 Duisburg GER
100kg Ivan Freydun 1981 UKR 99.60 290.0 12.11.2005 Miami USA
110kg Orhan Bilican 1978 BEL 108.00 285.5 13.05.2006 Prostejov CZE *
125kg Yevgen Yarymbash 1983 UKR 123.80 325.0 13.11.2005Miami USA
125+kg Brian Siders 1978 USA 152.70 351.0 30.04.2006 Duluth USA
IPF records.
Single ply shirts, the biggest federation. To have a record valid, the lifter need to pass a WADA doping test after the lift. So they are clean... when they lift at least. 8)
YIP
Zack
Around 1982 I did several unsanctioned bench press contests, I always competed in the 181 class at that time. One contest I was in one of the judges was Gus Resthwich (if your into powerlifting you probably know of him) on my 3rd attempt I successfully did a legal, raw 240.90kg (530lbs) since it was an unsanctioned event, they considered it an unofficial state record for that event. After that I trained with Gus at then Astro Gym in San Gabriel, Ca. This could probably still be verified either by Gus himself or the owner of Astro (now called "Lou Greenburgs San Gabriel Gym) Lou Greenberg.. I know, I know...who gives a crap :(!
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Around 1982 I did several unsanctioned bench press contests, I always competed in the 181 class at that time. One contest I was in one of the judges was Gus Resthwich (if your into powerlifting you probably know of him) on my 3rd attempt I successfully did a legal 240.90kg (530lbs) since it was an unsanctioned event, they considered it an unofficial state record for that event. After that I trained with Gus at then Astro Gym in San Gabriel, Ca. This could probably still be verified either by Gus himself or the owner of Astro (now called "Lou Greenburgs San Gabriel Gym) Lou Greenberg.. I know, I know...who gives a crap :(!
were you natural? use a shirt?
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Best I have done is 435 raw at 225lbs body weight. I want that 450 (455 would be nicer), but that extra 15-20 lbs at that point is murder for me.
Best I ever did with 315 was either 14 or 15, I can't remember, it was back in February or something this year.
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I first hit 315 at 19 years old...I started lifting at 17. I weighed 190 and I was using creating, but thats it. The first time I hit 405 I was 22 and got it three times. I was able to get that weight for a few weeks, but I ended up tearing some stuff in my shoulder (I didn't know at the time), but for some reason I was never able to go over about 350 after the injury...I finally had surgery about 2 months ago (its been 2 years) and I am still rehabbing. Ive trained with a few powerlifters (natural and Juiced) and like most people have been saying....315 really isn't that big of a deal for experienced trainers. That is if they are training for strength.
I do know that the first time I got 315 was a great day for me.
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were you natural? use a shirt?
I wasn't natural but I didn't take much either, back then 200mg of deca was considered alot. No, it was a raw lift!
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I wasn't natural but I didn't take much either, back then 200mg of deca was considered alot. No, it was a raw lift!
530 is pretty impressive any way you slice it.
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I wasn't natural but I didn't take much either, back then 200mg of deca was considered alot. No, it was a raw lift!
Don't for a minute believe that the lifters from former eastern Europe are life time naturals. They were clean at the day of the competition, but that's as far as I would go in claiming that they're clean...
So that benchpress of yours is an awesome lift. Especially since you're not a powerlifter, you're a bodybuilder and trains with high reps.
YIP
Zack
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I've done about 330 a couple of years ago, all I did at the time was bench with my cousin every Sunday night. I was going to school again full time and working about 55 hours a week in a shop so I had no time to lift. Since my chest has always lagged I firured I'd start benching with him in hopes to bring it up while I was not able to train. I ended up using all the free weight he had-he has a power rack and some free weights-I'm pretty sure it was about 330, got it up 2 or 3 times. Right now on the smith machine I have gotten up to 305 done DC style for 11 reps.
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Myself and my training partners are nowhere near as strong as most people in this thread yet we always get stares using the weights we use.
Makes me wonder where everyone trains.
When I did my best lifts I trained at World Gym East owned by Mike Katz in Hamden, CT. Every WWF wrestler of the day lifted there. I trained there from 1982 to 1986. Guys benching 400+ didn't get a second look.
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I first got a 315 bench in early 2005. My current max is a little over 380 at 230 lb bodyweight.
I don't know about everyone else, but it was hard as hell to make further progress once I got to 350.
Took me 5 years of hard training to go from 315 to 405. I got to my goal and just pretty much gave up on powerlifting.
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yes, just about. at 6'3.5 and 220. kinda skinny. was 19yrs old. and with very good form
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300 on shoulder press is INSANE! Too bad about the neck injury. That was in '98, does it still give you problems or are you just being careful?
I would say both, some days it bothers me some days it dosen't, however the Dr. that did my surgery warned me that if I continued to lift real heavy, I could rupture additional discs above or below the vertebrae that were fused togethor. I try to be more careful, but it sucks because I lost shoulder size in the process, but things could be worse, so who am I to complain.
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Naturally benched 315 or more?
squatted 415 naturaly with a squat suit/belt/no wraps in competition..
age 19
weight 132lbs...
my friend mohammed ( from sierra leon) .. seriously believe coulda done well in the pros.. strong before he EVER touched juice (cause i got him his first cycle)
could bench 385 for reps..precher cutl 80s for reps..
dunno where the dood is now..last i saw him he ws heavily into coke..extacy and nubain... :-\ and he could STILL out life most guys
side note: when he did juice he strength did go up..but not as much as you'd expect...he just blew up though...off of 1 pill drol a day and 400 mgs of test/week ( we coulda afford more)
we got all the arimidex and nolva for free though..he ws a pharm tech! ;D i ws using that back when it first came out and before actually..we'd get it in individualy packed little paper packets he'd swipe..
thing is he'd swipe tonnes of halotestin also..but both of us didn't wanna use that so we'd either give i away or sell it...gawd..back then i remember giving soo much halo away to powerlifters..i'd always have 2 to 3 hundred of em sitting in the car and whoever asked for em could have em..... :-\
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Thereabouts.
I did 280 in a meet in February but the IPF rules were pretty strict. I also could have 295 that day but we only get three attempts and I failed at 300.
With "gym form" (a little bounce off my chest), I was up to 315 on the flat bench, although it would fail by IPF standards. I did 325 for three on the decline on Sunday but of course the decline is easier than flat.
First post wohooo!!
Anyway, I know what you mean the difference with a "stop" at the bottom and the bounce.
I had 374 lbs x4 on the bench, with good form. except I had the bounce at the bottom. ( no asslift though) But as soon as i joined a weightlifting club, and I had to do the stop my weights went way down. >:(
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took 7 years of training to hit 375 as a natural at 229 pounds...a year later i hit 450 with a Titan F6 bench shirt. both lifts were in a meet and had a pause at the bottom.
8)
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I used Shawn Phillips' "How to increase your bench 50lbs in 7 weeks program" and benched 325 for on and 225 x 18 at about 185.
Tried to get back into benching to try it again (now 175), was just doing 5 x 5 with 250, and ended up in physical therapy for my shoulder.
Benching can be real tough on the delts.
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we need to start posting Pics about all these claims, guys. As far as I'm concerned, anybody here bench press 405lbs, all you need to do is to post a pic
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we need to start posting Pics about all these claims, guys. As far as I'm concerned, anybody here bench press 405lbs, all you need to do is to post a pic
Cool, let me just hop into my time machine and I'll program it for July, 2003 and snap a pic ;D
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we need to start posting Pics about all these claims, guys. As far as I'm concerned, anybody here bench press 405lbs, all you need to do is to post a pic
I am not exactly sure why you would want to do this, 405 just isn't that much. If as many people responded to a "who has benched 615 naturally" I would like to see a vid or something. 405 I just don't find that interesting.
If you want your bench to be higher than it is, instead of insinuating that people here may not be being entirely truthful, maybe ask some of the guys with really high numbers how they got there or something like that.
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i benched 635 for 6 as a freshman in high school, it was the unoficial high school record for years, at a bodyweight of 190.
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we need to start posting Pics about all these claims, guys. As far as I'm concerned, anybody here bench press 405lbs, all you need to do is to post a pic
like I said, this isn't a normal crowd . . . most people are probably the "big" guys in their gyms, and then there's a few schmoes/muscle worshippers etc. to round out the crowd.
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I am not exactly sure why you would want to do this, 405 just isn't that much. If as many people responded to a "who has benched 615 naturally" I would like to see a vid or something. 405 I just don't find that interesting.
If you want your bench to be higher than it is, instead of insinuating that people here may not be being entirely truthful, maybe ask some of the guys with really high numbers how they got there or something like that.
Now that sounds good. I did a routine of 5 sets of 5 reps on bench press for 12 weeks, and my body responded fantastic for strenght on that routine. In that 12 week period my max went from 345 to 405. And I only weighed 203 at the time, so I particularly enjoyed it all since it was double my bodyweight.
Once I reached that goal I said screw it and started training for size again and fortunately have gained 23 pounds since then. Maybe I'll start that routine again sometime though just for shits and giggles...
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Now that sounds good. I did a routine of 5 sets of 5 reps on bench press for 12 weeks, and my body responded fantastic for strenght on that routine. In that 12 week period my max went from 345 to 405. And I only weighed 203 at the time, so I particularly enjoyed it all since it was double my bodyweight.
Once I reached that goal I said screw it and started training for size again and fortunately have gained 23 pounds since then. Maybe I'll start that routine again sometime though just for shits and giggles...
See for me, I was the opposite, I need more volume than just about anyone I know to make my bench (or anything for that matter) improve. I wish I could grow like that on 5 sets. Well done man.
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See for me, I was the opposite, I need more volume than just about anyone I know to make my bench (or anything for that matter) improve. I wish I could grow like that on 5 sets. Well done man.
Thanks. That wasn't the entirety of my chest workout, though: I did incline dumbells after that too. But yeah, I probably didn't do more than nine total sets of chest in a workout.
Okay, time for me to drink a tall glass of "nobody gives a rat's ass" and get back to work 8)
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we need to start posting Pics about all these claims, guys. As far as I'm concerned, anybody here bench press 405lbs, all you need to do is to post a pic
I tore my left chest with 405 a couple of years ago..................... ....
but I was on my 7th rep!
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I tore my left chest with 405 a couple of years ago..................... ....
but I was on my 7th rep!
how come it doesn't look like you do that much?
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how come it doesn't look like you do that much?
I've always trained heavy in just about every exercise and thats probably the same reason why I started getting injuries after I turned 40 :'(!
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/sidechest1.jpg)
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your arms look a little bit below 17 inches there in all honesty, you're a good sized guy but if i were to see you i'd think that you could do 1 or 2 reps with 315 which is still pretty good.
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Really??
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/sidechest1.jpg)
I bet you were really good in the squat too.
But not as impressive in the deadlift?
Short fingers, short arms. Problems with holding onto the bar?
YIP
Zack
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I am not exactly sure why you would want to do this, 405 just isn't that much. If as many people responded to a "who has benched 615 naturally" I would like to see a vid or something. 405 I just don't find that interesting.
If you want your bench to be higher than it is, instead of insinuating that people here may not be being entirely truthful, maybe ask some of the guys with really high numbers how they got there or something like that.
That's not my point. I've been to powerlifting Gyms before and saw guys warming up with 500lbs for reps. All I'm saying is that, why make these claims here, when in reality some here cant even double their own body weight.
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That's not my point. I've been to powerlifting Gyms before and saw guys warming up with 500lbs for reps. All I'm saying is that, why make these claims here, when in reality some here cant even double their own body weight.
hahahaha, you just outed yourself as a liar right there, "warming up with 500lbs. for reps", hahaha, ok "hugepecs". ::)
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I bet you were really good in the squat too.
But not as impressive in the deadlift?
Short fingers, short arms. Problems with holding onto the bar?
YIP
Zack
I never really did any deads in my training, but, your right about my fingers so I always used an over/under grip but after I did and still do alot of grip exercises. My squats were decent but my bench and incline has always been strong.
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That's not my point. I've been to powerlifting Gyms before and saw guys warming up with 500lbs for reps. All I'm saying is that, why make these claims here, when in reality some here cant even double their own body weight.
With all respect..
Not even Brian Siders warms up with 500 lbs.
Check his training log for yourself at www.briansiders.com
Here is what he did awhile ago:
bench (comp grip)- 315x5x2, 365x5, 405x5, 455x5, 495x3x2, 545x3x2, 565x3x2, 585x3x2, 605x3x2
As you see, he warmed up with 315 lbs. Acclimation sets up to 455lbs. And this is the lifter widely considered the #2 benchpresser in the world.
I consider him #1.
YIP
Zack
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With all respect..
Not even Brian Siders warms up with 500 lbs.
Check his training log for yourself at www.briansiders.com
Here is what he did awhile ago:
bench (comp grip)- 315x5x2, 365x5, 405x5, 455x5, 495x3x2, 545x3x2, 565x3x2, 585x3x2, 605x3x2
As you see, he warmed up with 315 lbs. Acclimation sets up to 455lbs. And this is the lifter widely considered the #2 benchpresser in the world.
I consider him #1.
YIP
Zack
hahahaha, i don't know, mesomorph supposedy trains in a gym where he saw a guy do 8 reps with 635. ::)
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hahahaha, i don't know, mesomorph supposedy trains in a gym where he saw a guy do 8 reps with 635. ::)
Yes that was at my gym when he saw me training after I woke up from a 18 months coma and weighted 137 lbs
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Around 1982 I did several unsanctioned bench press contests, I always competed in the 181 class at that time. One contest I was in one of the judges was Gus Resthwich (if your into powerlifting you probably know of him) on my 3rd attempt I successfully did a legal, raw 240.90kg (530lbs) since it was an unsanctioned event, they considered it an unofficial state record for that event. After that I trained with Gus at then Astro Gym in San Gabriel, Ca. This could probably still be verified either by Gus himself or the owner of Astro (now called "Lou Greenburgs San Gabriel Gym) Lou Greenberg.. I know, I know...who gives a crap :(!
What is your name? Mike MacDonald set a world record of 520 lb in the 181 class. That's a HUGE lift even for a 242.
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hahahaha, you just outed yourself as a liar right there, "warming up with 500lbs. for reps", hahaha, ok "hugepecs". ::)
very pathetic of you...lol..you must be living a fantaisie. go ahead and asked somebody who knows a thing or 2 about powerlifting or better yet check out this site and get some good knowledge before you called me a liar. that tells me right there, my man, you've never been to a real Dungeon, you aint never seen real motherfuckers lifting serious weights. it's too hard for you to digest, maybe
http://www.t-nation.com
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What is your name? Mike MacDonald set a world record of 520 lb in the 181 class. That's a HUGE lift even for a 242.
I mentioned who you can verify it with....why would I lie? Besides, just because someone did that in an event does not mean there isn't someone out there who can't do the same if not more!
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With all respect..
Not even Brian Siders warms up with 500 lbs.
Check his training log for yourself at www.briansiders.com
Here is what he did awhile ago:
bench (comp grip)- 315x5x2, 365x5, 405x5, 455x5, 495x3x2, 545x3x2, 565x3x2, 585x3x2, 605x3x2
As you see, he warmed up with 315 lbs. Acclimation sets up to 455lbs. And this is the lifter widely considered the #2 benchpresser in the world.
I consider him #1.
YIP
Zack
Well, I saw a clip of Gene Rychlak popping 8 reps with 500lbs, I dont have the link, I will post it, if I can find it. but how do you rank a man who press a thousand pound?
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That is an excellent lift, natural or otherwise.
The winner of the meet in Thunder Bay put up 465 and failed at 495. He was 5'10 / 290 and juiced to the gills. He later won the deadlift competition with a lift of 720.
The population is over 100,000 here. Everybody seems to know so many naturals who are lifting 400+, but at any gym I go to, even seeing people work with 225 is relatively rare.
Well said, i have been to many hardcore gyms and it's rare to see juiced to the gills guys bench 400 pounds or more. But here everybody benched 315 on their first attempt....
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In 1980 or 81' I benched 500 at a bodyweight of 247 with Joe Gold spotting me. Never took a thing in my life then. That was in a t-shirt and OP shorts. In 1986 when I was on only "test" at 298 I bench 585. After 10 years of taking nothing at a bodyweight of about 305 I inclined 505. I am back in the gym training 6 hard days a week. On Monday this week I did 405 for 3. I can do 315 for 12. I do 315 incline for 8 pretty easy. I also pause up to 5 seconds between reps on the bench and incline. I also do seated front presses with 315 for 6. And I do a full ROM with a pause at the bottom to when I press. I also haven't lifted really heavy since 1998. So I am getting some strength back. My weight is dropping to and by the Olympia I would have lost about 150 pounds. SO I am getting strength back and losing weight. I am doing at least an hour of cardio a day. I walk at a walking track at the old airport here one mile before I go to the gym. Then after I train I go one the treadmill for 20 minutes then the elliptical for 20 minutes. I try to keep my calories below 2500 a day. My carbs below 200 a day and my protein at least 300 grams a day. Allot of chicken and fish and now added in steak 2 times a week. No bad food till the weekends when I go see movies. Now David Paul has me drinking some concoction to clean out my system. Water, maple syrup, cayenne pepper and lemon. 1 gallon a day throughout the day. Feeling great right now. Sleeping better more energy and finally people are telling me I am looking allot better. Getting my thickness back in my upper body. Still got the sides and upper ass to get off but on my way.
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In 1980 or 81' I benched 500 at a bodyweight of 247 with Joe Gold spotting me. Never took a thing in my life then. That was in a t-shirt and OP shorts. In 1986 when I was on only "test" at 298 I bench 585. After 10 years of taking nothing at a bodyweight of about 305 I inclined 505. I am back in the gym training 6 hard days a week. On Monday this week I did 405 for 3. I can do 315 for 12. I do 315 incline for 8 pretty easy. I also pause up to 5 seconds between reps on the bench and incline. I also do seated front presses with 315 for 6. And I do a full ROM with a pause at the bottom to when I press. I also haven't lifted really heavy since 1998. So I am getting some strength back. My weight is dropping to and by the Olympia I would have lost about 150 pounds. SO I am getting strength back and losing weight. I am doing at least an hour of cardio a day. I walk at a walking track at the old airport here one mile before I go to the gym. Then after I train I go one the treadmill for 20 minutes then the elliptical for 20 minutes. I try to keep my calories below 2500 a day. My carbs below 200 a day and my protein at least 300 grams a day. Allot of chicken and fish and now added in steak 2 times a week. No bad food till the weekends when I go see movies. Now David Paul has me drinking some concoction to clean out my system. Water, maple syrup, cayenne pepper and lemon. 1 gallon a day throughout the day. Feeling great right now. Sleeping better more energy and finally people are telling me I am looking allot better. Getting my thickness back in my upper body. Still got the sides and upper ass to get off but on my way.
Keep at it man. Coming back from what you have is no small feat. Well done. I haven't had the problems you have, but, I have torn both pecs and separated a shoulder benching, and coming back was really hard.
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In 1980 or 81' I benched 500 at a bodyweight of 247 with Joe Gold spotting me. Never took a thing in my life then. That was in a t-shirt and OP shorts. In 1986 when I was on only "test" at 298 I bench 585. After 10 years of taking nothing at a bodyweight of about 305 I inclined 505. I am back in the gym training 6 hard days a week. On Monday this week I did 405 for 3. I can do 315 for 12. I do 315 incline for 8 pretty easy. I also pause up to 5 seconds between reps on the bench and incline. I also do seated front presses with 315 for 6. And I do a full ROM with a pause at the bottom to when I press. I also haven't lifted really heavy since 1998. So I am getting some strength back. My weight is dropping to and by the Olympia I would have lost about 150 pounds. SO I am getting strength back and losing weight. I am doing at least an hour of cardio a day. I walk at a walking track at the old airport here one mile before I go to the gym. Then after I train I go one the treadmill for 20 minutes then the elliptical for 20 minutes. I try to keep my calories below 2500 a day. My carbs below 200 a day and my protein at least 300 grams a day. Allot of chicken and fish and now added in steak 2 times a week. No bad food till the weekends when I go see movies. Now David Paul has me drinking some concoction to clean out my system. Water, maple syrup, cayenne pepper and lemon. 1 gallon a day throughout the day. Feeling great right now. Sleeping better more energy and finally people are telling me I am looking allot better. Getting my thickness back in my upper body. Still got the sides and upper ass to get off but on my way.
Congrats on the progress!
2500 carbs seems extremely low for such a big guy like you onlyme.
And how much do you weigh?
YIP
Zack
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Naturally benched 315 or more?
....Basically, expect everyone who answers this thread to bench over 315 and "natural" with single digit percentage bodyfat. No diss, I'm just telling you what to expect.~ 8)
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i benched 405 naturally at the age of 19 weighing 225
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Well, I saw a clip of Gene Rychlak popping 8 reps with 500lbs, I dont have the link, I will post it, if I can find it. but how do you rank a man who press a thousand pound?
I doubt there are more than 10 or 20 guys in the US who could rep 500 on the bench as a 242 or lighter. Larry Pacifico did sets of 3 with 500, and he was the top powerlifter in the world for quite a few years.
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I have never told anyone since my accident how much I weighed at the most cause of being so embarassed. I went from being so much in shape and riding my bike 28 miles a day to the gym twice a day and weighing 298. That is what I weighed when I got bit. At my highest point I weighed 560. I just weighed myself the other day and I am at 460. I am still obviously huge but I do not appear like you think. Most people say no way do I weigh even close to 400. I ained my weight in my ass and gut. My legs barely gained a couple inches. My shoulders and arms are as hard as anyone's I measured my shoulders at 64" on Monday. My arms flexed are just over 23". My wrists are 9" I did not measure my waist cause I don't want to right now. I will measure once I am below 400. I am 6'1".
I think what is the best is that I am doing allot of cardio and cutting back on the bad shit. My energy is fine too now. The carbs I take in are mostly from the unfiltered Apple Juice or orange juice I mix my protein with. I also have oatmeal and sometimes Special K cereal which I love. But no more milk (unless I have the SPecial K), no more bread of any kind. I eat allot of spinach with my chicken, or fish. I snack on peanut butter a little at night. I only drink water and fruti water and the concoction David told me. I just started that though. As big as I got I did not get many stretch marks. In fact I have none on my front. And really not many on the sides. My skin is really elastic I guess.
The only reason I decided to tell this now and give out my real stats (as I have avoided it before) is because I am strong again, and I have been losing very steady for the last couple months. I feel a zillion times better and look a zillion times better. The one thing about me though is my head or face never got big. The pic below was taken a couple months ago and it isn't that different from any of me before I ganined the weight.
Been training with this kid who is just 24. He is 5'10" and weighed 250 yesterday and he is strong as hell. He pushes me cause I didn't like him being stronger than me. Well now I am stronger than him and making him sweat big time.
Mike Arvilla inspired me a little too. Cause he was very smooth and kind of looing like not much when he started his training for the show. And no matter what you guys sayabout the guy. He did an AWESOME job gettng down in weight. And that is the hardest thing when you are big.
My goal when I was training for the Olympics before I got bit was 275. I think at that weight I would be unreal. At 300 my waist was around 37" and I could fit in 36" jeans which I still have all my pants. So ultimately I would like to get to 275. I think I can do this by next summer. I finally got over the hump of the cardio part. When I was so heavy I just couldn't do much cardio. But after doing 10 minutes at a time and then raising it I am finally at an hour and could do more.
I know some of the guys are going to come on here and say how fat I am now. But, in all honesty I am BIG but my upper body is as hard as any muscular kid and I can bet I am as strong as most of them. My ass and gut are next to go. I will keep you posted. And no I will not take pics of me cause I don't feel that good about me yet. But I will post some pics of me lifting heavy to prove I have got back some strength at least.
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Keith I like you when you make posts like that
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Well actually I like making posts like this too. Ihave allot insideme I don't say or write but right now I am feeling really good and decdied to spill my guts (so to speak). My confidence is getting allot better now. On the History Board that's all you'll see. On here I have a little more fun and like to screw with a select few.
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Most I ever did was 265 at a weight of 178lbs. That was when I was 24. Wouldn't even attempt it now cause heavy bench just kills my left shoulder.
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Don't know my max. I bench only 220 for about 10.
Yeah, I use monster weights! ;D
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Here is my head just a coule months ago. The other pic I'm not sure when it was taken but it was within the last 5 years since I moved back here. So I am weighing at least 400+ there.
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I didn't know 315 was a huge number for a natural ???
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Me either. I don't think it's a huge number.
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Keith, I have seen 250 lbs guy who looks way fatter.
You will be back in shape in no time
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You know that funny. Cause I see guys who are really really fat. And I have asked them how much you weigh. Us fat guys can do that. And they would say 380 or 400 and they are so much bigger than me.
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One of my friends who is also really strong ( he is 18 and at 16 he deadlifted 260 kg at his first try :o ) He weight like 285 maybe and looks just like you but with a little more fat
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I bet you were really good in the squat too.
But not as impressive in the deadlift?
Short fingers, short arms. Problems with holding onto the bar?
YIP
Zack
does it feel good to point out the obvious and sound like it ws some sorta epiphany?
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im 19, 190 and i max out at 295, i hope to hit 315 in a year
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does it feel good to point out the obvious and sound like it ws some sorta epiphany?
Cry me a river Dear Abby... ::)
Noob.
YIP
Zack
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Mike Arvilla inspired me a little too. Cause he was very smooth and kind of looing like not much when he started his training for the show. And no matter what you guys sayabout the guy. He did an AWESOME job gettng down in weight. And that is the hardest thing when you are big.
Keith....good job man. I remember when you posted some information on some of your first workouts & how weak you were....remember what I said....."muscle memory". Just keep doing it & stay motivated. Awesome job dude.
I also agree with you 100% about Mike A. He's inspired me as well to start taking things serious again. I have goofed around long enough.
Having a big bench is not unrealistic. I remember one of my first workouts for chest I had. I was in the Marines & although I knew that I was functionally strong....I attempted my first incline bench with 115 & about knocked myself on the chin & had a hard time pressing in a straight line. The funny part was....I could curl the bar...but could not press it for nothing. Within 10 - 12 months....I had alot of people in my gym attention because I was able to do 225 for 6. I have since passed that....but remember that 115 about knocked me out still makes me laugh.
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Well actually I like making posts like this too. Ihave allot insideme I don't say or write but right now I am feeling really good and decdied to spill my guts (so to speak). My confidence is getting allot better now. On the History Board that's all you'll see. On here I have a little more fun and like to screw with a select few.
Promise us some pics for New Years Day. And again some pics for 1st of July 2007. How about it?
And yeah, great post. Very inspiring. Shit like that is what makes Getbig gold.
Thanks for inspiring ME to train as hard as I can the rest of this summer.
YIP
Zack
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Keith is a bull plain and simple, easily one of the strongest pressers i've ever heard of.
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Here is my head just a coule months ago. The other pic I'm not sure when it was taken but it was within the last 5 years since I moved back here. So I am weighing at least 400+ there.
you dont look "fat" there at all bro,looking good,
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Keith is a bull plain and simple, easily one of the strongest pressers i've ever heard of.
Yes ! just look at him. He looks like a fucking tank ! :o
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315 before PE's
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400 pounds is not a healthy weight at all. im srry but being that big is unhealthy. unless your about 6'9'' it probaly looks horrible as well. 300 ponds is pushing it. i would def sacrafice some strength and size and cut down and gain a healthier life and mobility. but hey im just some 19 year old kid what do i know.
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400 pounds is not a healthy weight at all. im srry but being that big is unhealthy. unless your about 6'9'' it probaly looks horrible as well. 300 ponds is pushing it. i would def sacrafice some strength and size and cut down and gain a healthier life and mobility. but hey im just some 19 year old kid what do i know.
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400 pounds is not a healthy weight at all. im srry but being that big is unhealthy. unless your about 6'9'' it probaly looks horrible as well. 300 ponds is pushing it. i would def sacrafice some strength and size and cut down and gain a healthier life and mobility. but hey im just some 19 year old kid what do i know.
Keith was bitten by a spider and had some sort of infection I think with made him gain weight
He didn't choose to be that heavy
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Keith was bitten by a spider and had some sort of infection I think with made him gain weight
He didn't choose to be that heavy
No I didn't chose to be this way. I was training for the 2000 Olympics and was heading for a bodyweight of 275. Moved to LA to train and got bt within 2 months of moving.
400 pounds is not a healthy weight at all. im srry but being that big is unhealthy. unless your about 6'9'' it probaly looks horrible as well. 300 ponds is pushing it. i would def sacrafice some strength and size and cut down and gain a healthier life and mobility. but hey im just some 19 year old kid what do i know.
I agree that 400 is not healthy that is why my goal is at least 300 but ultimately 275. I have been traiing since the summer of 1973. I have been living healthy from then to March 1 1998. The doctors even said that if I wassn't as healthy I was I easily could have died like the 51 others that have died from the brown recluse bite. I have never smoked a thing in my life. Never took hard drugs. Never really drank alcohol. Even though I have been drunk 3 times in my life. And I have lifted pretty religiously for all those years with a rare few months off here and there. My clolesterol has never been over 130. I still get my blood tested at least every 6 months and sometimes every 3. My doctor says he still wants me to get down in weight, but considering my size he is ver surprised how healthy I am. My blood pressure was 130/82 the last time I had it checked (or close to that). A little high my doctor said but consideringmy size not bad at all.
The thing I hate the most about me right now is my upper ass and gut. My upper body I am pretty happy with for now. I am really pushing on the treadmill. I do it at 15 degrees at 2.5 mph, and do long strides for 2 minutes. Then I rest two minutes and do it again. I do this 10 times. It kicks my ass big time. But I can feel it. So, I really think I can reach my goal. I may take a couple pics training with David Paul while he is here. I want him to take a series of me doing the seated front press with 315 for reps.
I just want to be able to go to the Olympia and feel okay walking around the expo. My high school reunion is August 19 too so I really want to be okay for that. I had a reputation in high school and if I show up to fat I will lost that reputation. So we'll see. So far so good. I can see why Mike A. documented his training and everything for the show on here. It is very theraputic. Thanks.
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No I didn't chose to be this way. I was training for the 2000 Olympics and was heading for a bodyweight of 275. Moved to LA to train and got bt within 2 months of moving.
I agree that 400 is not healthy that is why my goal is at least 300 but ultimately 275. I have been traiing since the summer of 1973. I have been living healthy from then to March 1 1998. The doctors even said that if I wassn't as healthy I was I easily could have died like the 51 others that have died from the brown recluse bite. I have never smoked a thing in my life. Never took hard drugs. Never really drank alcohol. Even though I have been drunk 3 times in my life. And I have lifted pretty religiously for all those years with a rare few months off here and there. My clolesterol has never been over 130. I still get my blood tested at least every 6 months and sometimes every 3. My doctor says he still wants me to get down in weight, but considering my size he is ver surprised how healthy I am. My blood pressure was 130/82 the last time I had it checked (or close to that). A little high my doctor said but consideringmy size not bad at all.
The thing I hate the most about me right now is my upper ass and gut. My upper body I am pretty happy with for now. I am really pushing on the treadmill. I do it at 15 degrees at 2.5 mph, and do long strides for 2 minutes. Then I rest two minutes and do it again. I do this 10 times. It kicks my ass big time. But I can feel it. So, I really think I can reach my goal. I may take a couple pics training with David Paul while he is here. I want him to take a series of me doing the seated front press with 315 for reps.
I just want to be able to go to the Olympia and feel okay walking around the expo. My high school reunion is August 19 too so I really want to be okay for that. I had a reputation in high school and if I show up to fat I will lost that reputation. So we'll see. So far so good. I can see why Mike A. documented his training and everything for the show on here. It is very theraputic. Thanks.
your attitude is very healthy, and i'm sure you will be able to meet your goals physically.
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best of luck to you, you def have a great attitude and life style, i wanna see you live a long life so you can continue to share your knowledge and love for bodybuilding
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In 1980 or 81' I benched 500 at a bodyweight of 247 with Joe Gold spotting me. Never took a thing in my life then. That was in a t-shirt and OP shorts. In 1986 when I was on only "test" at 298 I bench 585. After 10 years of taking nothing at a bodyweight of about 305 I inclined 505. I am back in the gym training 6 hard days a week. On Monday this week I did 405 for 3. I can do 315 for 12. I do 315 incline for 8 pretty easy. I also pause up to 5 seconds between reps on the bench and incline. I also do seated front presses with 315 for 6. And I do a full ROM with a pause at the bottom to when I press. I also haven't lifted really heavy since 1998. So I am getting some strength back. My weight is dropping to and by the Olympia I would have lost about 150 pounds. SO I am getting strength back and losing weight. I am doing at least an hour of cardio a day. I walk at a walking track at the old airport here one mile before I go to the gym. Then after I train I go one the treadmill for 20 minutes then the elliptical for 20 minutes. I try to keep my calories below 2500 a day. My carbs below 200 a day and my protein at least 300 grams a day. Allot of chicken and fish and now added in steak 2 times a week. No bad food till the weekends when I go see movies. Now David Paul has me drinking some concoction to clean out my system. Water, maple syrup, cayenne pepper and lemon. 1 gallon a day throughout the day. Feeling great right now. Sleeping better more energy and finally people are telling me I am looking allot better. Getting my thickness back in my upper body. Still got the sides and upper ass to get off but on my way.
Holy smokes Keith. Great work. I remember, last year, reading your posts and one of your goals was to get back and be able to get 315 (if only for pride's sake), and here you've blown past that and are hoisting four plates for reps! Man, you are on your way. Very impressive. Keep up the good work.
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I did 365 natural when I was 16, at a BW of 210.
I havent got much above that though :'( Party becausei think I have gotten close to tapping out of my natural strength, and paryly because of a few devastating sicknesses.
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Here is my head just a coule months ago. The other pic I'm not sure when it was taken but it was within the last 5 years since I moved back here. So I am weighing at least 400+ there.
Sorry Only, all the dieting in the world wont do a damn thing for that mug. ;) Try a brown paper bag! ;D
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I hit 405 on Sept. 1 of last year. But, it took me a while to recover from it. That may have due to the fact that I did 400 even, just a few days prior and didn't give myself enough time to rest.
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I mentioned who you can verify it with....why would I lie? Besides, just because someone did that in an event does not mean there isn't someone out there who can't do the same if not more!
What is your real name? I have a good friend who knows Gus very well. I can verify the information you have provided. If you are telling the truth and have done over 500 lbs RAW in competition that is very impressive. I am not stuck on how you look as I know that means squat (pun intended).
By the way, you do look thick in the last pic.
Chris
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500 is awesome for anyone under 200. I think my friend Julian Lee did just 600 at 198 in competition. I know Francis Silva here in competition did a 612 at 202.
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500 is awesome for anyone under 200. I think my friend Julian Lee did just 600 at 198 in competition. I know Francis Silva here in competition did a 612 at 202.
Do you know anyone that has done those kinds of lifts at those kinds of bodyweights without shirts? Also how tall are these guys. I am only curious, not suggesting for a second you are not being truthful, just in my neck of the woods we have nothing like that.
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Do you know anyone that has done those kinds of lifts at those kinds of bodyweights without shirts? Also how tall are these guys. I am only curious, not suggesting for a second you are not being truthful, just in my neck of the woods we have nothing like that.
I'm 5'6!
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I'm 5'6!
Regardless, if I saw any guy under 220 bench over 500 I think I would shit. Well done man I find stories like yours and Keith's inspiration to try a little harder at the gym on bench day.
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Regardless, if I saw any guy under 220 bench over 500 I think I would shit. Well done man I find stories like yours and Keith's inspiration to try a little harder at the gym on bench day.
we used to have a guy at my old gym who totalled elite at 242 in the APF, benched 661, squatted 1003 and pulled 800 all at a bodyweight of around 237, he used to literally toy with 500, he could close grip 500 for 4, front squat 600 and one arm snatch a 160lb. dumbell, strongest guy i've ever seen.
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we used to have a guy at my old gym who totalled elite at 242 in the APF, benched 661, squatted 1003 and pulled 800 all at a bodyweight of around 237, he used to literally toy with 500, he could close grip 500 for 4, front squat 600 and one arm snatch a 160lb. dumbell, strongest guy i've ever seen.
I think that would make me want to find a new sport lol. Any idea what these guys start at with their lifts? I mean were they freaky strong in them before training?
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I think that would make me want to find a new sport lol. Any idea what these guys start at with their lifts? I mean were they freaky strong in them before training?
this guy was nothing special at all without TONS AND TONS of juice i'm talking about crazy shit like literally swallowing 50 dbol's at a time, when he came off everything he was literally 185lbs., just a crazy hyper responder and absolutely fearless when it came to massive dosages of drugs, he was a very athletic guy before he got serious about PL, great sprinter and football player and i've never seen someone who could focus more than this dude, it was like Stallone said in Over the Top when he made the comment about turning the ballcap backward he became a machine, this dude could be joking one minute and then get serious enough to absolutely bury a 650lb. front squat for 3 reps and then become normal again.
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this guy was nothing special at all without TONS AND TONS of juice i'm talking about crazy shit like literally swallowing 50 dbol's at a time, when he came off everything he was literally 185lbs., just a crazy hyper responder and absolutely fearless when it came to massive dosages of drugs, he was a very athletic guy before he got serious about PL, great sprinter and football player and i've never seen someone who could focus more than this dude, it was like Stallone said in Over the Top when he made the comment about turning the ballcap backward he became a machine, this dude could be joking one minute and then get serious enough to absolutely bury a 650lb. front squat for 3 reps and then become normal again.
Well I have to say you have made me feel a little better lol. I am not ready to try juice, but of course, will always be curious as to what might happen if I did. God knows with my luck I wouldn't even respond lol.
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Well I have to say you have made me feel a little better lol. I am not ready to try juice, but of course, will always be curious as to what might happen if I did. God knows with my luck I wouldn't even respond lol.
yes you would, everyone does, some more than others but it's impossible not to unless you get bogus shit, this guy would go from 185-190 to 245 at the same or less bodyfat inside of two months but like i said he had no fear of ANY dose or drug if he felt taking a whole bottle would help him he would find a way to take it all, the thing that made him different was his freakish strength and he was never afraid to come off of EVERYTHING at any time if he felt he was having to many side effects.
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this guy was nothing special at all without TONS AND TONS of juice i'm talking about crazy shit like literally swallowing 50 dbol's at a time, when he came off everything he was literally 185lbs., just a crazy hyper responder and absolutely fearless when it came to massive dosages of drugs, he was a very athletic guy before he got serious about PL, great sprinter and football player and i've never seen someone who could focus more than this dude, it was like Stallone said in Over the Top when he made the comment about turning the ballcap backward he became a machine, this dude could be joking one minute and then get serious enough to absolutely bury a 650lb. front squat for 3 reps and then become normal again.
You can ask the old Public relations Director at Cannon Films, Judy Freidman where Stallone got that turning the ball cap around ritual.................. .ME!!!!!!!!! That was my trademark. And the guy who impressed me most in the bench is Doug Ortiz at a bodyweight of 132 benching 440 (or something close to that) at my show. He is the World Record holder still I think. Just a little guy never looked like he lifted ever. Just in great shape. He is awesome. You guys seriously need to come to Hawaii and hang out at my gym or even better Gold's Honolulu. If you can't bench at least 405 for reps you might as well just go to 24 Hour Fitness. Seeing guys rep with 405 is an everyday every hour occurence here. I'm just really happy at least I am back up there with these guys again.
Here's me with my hat turned around during filming. Sometimes I did it at the table. More dramatic.
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gotta keep this at the top. It is the best I looked at 400+ pounds. This is my goal for the next few months.
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I have never told anyone since my accident how much I weighed at the most cause of being so embarassed. I went from being so much in shape and riding my bike 28 miles a day to the gym twice a day and weighing 298. That is what I weighed when I got bit. At my highest point I weighed 560. I just weighed myself the other day and I am at 460. I am still obviously huge but I do not appear like you think. Most people say no way do I weigh even close to 400. I ained my weight in my ass and gut. My legs barely gained a couple inches. My shoulders and arms are as hard as anyone's I measured my shoulders at 64" on Monday. My arms flexed are just over 23". My wrists are 9" I did not measure my waist cause I don't want to right now. I will measure once I am below 400. I am 6'1".
I think what is the best is that I am doing allot of cardio and cutting back on the bad shit. My energy is fine too now. The carbs I take in are mostly from the unfiltered Apple Juice or orange juice I mix my protein with. I also have oatmeal and sometimes Special K cereal which I love. But no more milk (unless I have the SPecial K), no more bread of any kind. I eat allot of spinach with my chicken, or fish. I snack on peanut butter a little at night. I only drink water and fruti water and the concoction David told me. I just started that though. As big as I got I did not get many stretch marks. In fact I have none on my front. And really not many on the sides. My skin is really elastic I guess.
The only reason I decided to tell this now and give out my real stats (as I have avoided it before) is because I am strong again, and I have been losing very steady for the last couple months. I feel a zillion times better and look a zillion times better. The one thing about me though is my head or face never got big. The pic below was taken a couple months ago and it isn't that different from any of me before I ganined the weight.
Been training with this kid who is just 24. He is 5'10" and weighed 250 yesterday and he is strong as hell. He pushes me cause I didn't like him being stronger than me. Well now I am stronger than him and making him sweat big time.
Mike Arvilla inspired me a little too. Cause he was very smooth and kind of looing like not much when he started his training for the show. And no matter what you guys sayabout the guy. He did an AWESOME job gettng down in weight. And that is the hardest thing when you are big.
My goal when I was training for the Olympics before I got bit was 275. I think at that weight I would be unreal. At 300 my waist was around 37" and I could fit in 36" jeans which I still have all my pants. So ultimately I would like to get to 275. I think I can do this by next summer. I finally got over the hump of the cardio part. When I was so heavy I just couldn't do much cardio. But after doing 10 minutes at a time and then raising it I am finally at an hour and could do more.
I know some of the guys are going to come on here and say how fat I am now. But, in all honesty I am BIG but my upper body is as hard as any muscular kid and I can bet I am as strong as most of them. My ass and gut are next to go. I will keep you posted. And no I will not take pics of me cause I don't feel that good about me yet. But I will post some pics of me lifting heavy to prove I have got back some strength at least.
Take the time and read this.
-Hedge
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That's easy stuff.
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Man I didn't realize I wrote that
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I DO 5 SETS OF 8 WITH 315 ON BENCH AND 4 SETS OF 5 WITH 315 ON THE INCLINE,JUST EATING STEAK AND POTATOES
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Man I didn't realize I wrote that
I hope your still sticking to your goal though Keith... this is a good reminder
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Naturally benched 315 or more?
I have, with gear I reached 395. Nowdays I don't bench over 225 for 10-20 reps..... :P
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I have, with gear I reached 395. Nowdays I don't bench over 225 for 10-20 reps..... :P
What are your deadlift and squat numbers, VVV?
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I did 315 before touching anything.
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maybe my frame of reference is different, but I don't think 315 is amazing for a natural. Very good, definitely, but not amazing. I benched 405 raw and clean as a junior -- but I am not the lightest guy around and weighed around 290 at the time. So 315 clean is great, but only if you are a middleweight or lighter.
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I did 315 before touching anything.
They didn't ask how many dicks you blew dumbass ::)
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They didn't ask how many dicks you blew dumbass ::)
mike..don't u have to refill the soap dispenser at the gym?..while u there get some fresh towels for the guys in the locker too ;)
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mike..don't u have to refill the soap dispenser at the gym?..while u there get some fresh towels for the guys in the locker too ;)
Sorry that's not really my job, that the maintenance guy or the night cleaners and we don't stock fresh towels we aren't a "health club" with spa and steam rooms for fagats like you.
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what's a fagat? :) is that what you call your " at work fling?" ...the "maintenance guy?...you 200 lbs of man love.. ;D
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what's a fagat? :) is that what you call your " at work fling?" ...the "maintenance guy?...you 200 lbs of man love.. ;D
Actually I am almost 210lbs now... ::)
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Naturally benched 315 or more?
I did 330 for 2 a few years ago...never tried to go heavier.