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Title: nolvadex or clomid
Post by: dan18 on July 11, 2006, 09:21:43 AM
I know nolv is good to prevent gyno but what is better after a cycle
to keep more gains clomid or nolv..
Title: Re: nolvadex or clomid
Post by: ZEEK on July 11, 2006, 10:08:59 AM
I think HCG is better but nolva is better then clomid.
Title: Re: nolvadex or clomid
Post by: bigjohn_bluesfan on July 11, 2006, 10:43:32 AM
I think HCG is better but nolva is better then clomid.

you dont use HCG after a cycle....its for during a cycle not PCT..... and it is no where similar to the above mentined anti-e.
This post shows you are a newbie. GO DO SOME RESEARCH AND STOP GIVING ADVICE.
Title: Re: nolvadex or clomid
Post by: ag-guys on July 11, 2006, 11:05:07 AM
you dont use HCG after a cycle....its for during a cycle not PCT..... and it is no where similar to the above mentined anti-e.
This post shows you are a newbie. GO DO SOME RESEARCH AND STOP GIVING ADVICE.

HCG can be used and is used for PCT.

AG-Guys
Title: Re: nolvadex or clomid
Post by: sportingsteroids on July 11, 2006, 11:51:55 AM
HCG is more   effective than clomid,
HCG could be used durring the cycle, or after the cycle, it depends on you ! and depend on your cycle !

- nolvadex you can use 10-20 mg a day all cycle time !
Title: Re: nolvadex or clomid
Post by: DarthNemesis21 on July 11, 2006, 11:59:29 AM
you dont use HCG after a cycle....its for during a cycle not PCT..... and it is no where similar to the above mentined anti-e.
This post shows you are a newbie. GO DO SOME RESEARCH AND STOP GIVING ADVICE.
You can do both bro.But I'd go with durring.Rather than after a cycle.Makes more scense to keep the boys fat n' happy.Than trying to get them firing after the fact.But then people are gonna do what they will.
Title: Re: nolvadex or clomid
Post by: dan18 on July 11, 2006, 12:18:56 PM
HCG is more   effective than clomid,
HCG could be used durring the cycle, or after the cycle, it depends on you ! and depend on your cycle !

- nolvadex you can use 10-20 mg a day all cycle time !


will any of these help keep your size
Title: Re: nolvadex or clomid
Post by: DarthNemesis21 on July 11, 2006, 12:46:40 PM
will any of these help keep your size
Armidex would be the main choice.With it's anabolic properties.But it's expensive as hell.Nolva is the next best choice.Then clomid.I've always used Nolva,And am happy with it.I keep clomid around.But am one of the lucky ones who dosen't have to worry about gyno...So far.
Title: Re: nolvadex or clomid
Post by: Luv2Hurt on July 11, 2006, 08:02:58 PM
Armidex would be the main choice.With it's anabolic properties.But it's expensive as hell.Nolva is the next best choice.Then clomid.I've always used Nolva,And am happy with it.I keep clomid around.But am one of the lucky ones who dosen't have to worry about gyno...So far.

Arimidex has anabolic properties?? Are you thinking proviron?  A-dex should not be used post cycle, it is an anti-aromatase.

To answer the first ? Nolvadex is the best single thing for PCT.  HCG (but quite different than nolva or clomid) is good during or right after for the first 2 weeks, you can not recover your natural test while on HCG, it prevents this cause it is an LH analog and you can not get back to normal with synthetic hormones floating around in your system.
Title: Re: nolvadex or clomid
Post by: Minihulk on July 18, 2006, 07:00:01 PM
   

       Have any of yall used ag-guys pct products!!  :-\
Title: Re: nolvadex or clomid
Post by: Arnold jr on July 18, 2006, 07:24:40 PM
Arimidex has anabolic properties?? Are you thinking proviron?  A-dex should not be used post cycle, it is an anti-aromatase.

To answer the first ? Nolvadex is the best single thing for PCT.  HCG (but quite different than nolva or clomid) is good during or right after for the first 2 weeks, you can not recover your natural test while on HCG, it prevents this cause it is an LH analog and you can not get back to normal with synthetic hormones floating around in your system.
This is all correct.
Title: Re: nolvadex or clomid
Post by: bigjohn_bluesfan on July 18, 2006, 07:30:16 PM
Arimidex has anabolic properties?? Are you thinking proviron?  A-dex should not be used post cycle, it is an anti-aromatase.

To answer the first ? Nolvadex is the best single thing for PCT.  HCG (but quite different than nolva or clomid) is good during or right after for the first 2 weeks, you can not recover your natural test while on HCG, it prevents this cause it is an LH analog and you can not get back to normal with synthetic hormones floating around in your system.

exactly, therefore, as I stated--- you dont use HCG fror PCT---- you can, but it would be senseless. Why give your nuts hell for 16 weaks and then try to salvage whats left of them with a million IU's of HCG when you can just start taking it half way through the cycle and then go straight to PCT afterwards.    ::)
Title: Re: nolvadex or clomid
Post by: 4thAD on July 18, 2006, 07:31:34 PM
HCG used for PCT is old school thinking! People used to do this to bridge the gap. HCG used in PCT will only put off natural test production longer, and it should only be used during cycle to stop your body from shutting down, and to keep your nuts full and ready to go when you start PCT. PCT should consist of nolvadex, maybe some tribulus(with atleast 40% saponins), and other herbs of choice. IMO I would stay away from clomid, people have reported problems with eyesight, and emotional disturbances! Hope this helps bro!
Title: Re: nolvadex or clomid
Post by: coolioni on July 18, 2006, 07:45:04 PM
nolvadex with your cycle, mostly towards the end. Then take HCG for 2 weeks, then clomid for 2 weeks. Workd like a charm for me everytime.
I did try arimidex though instaed of nolva last time. I did not notice much of a difference.
Nolva is supposed to hinder gains a bit too.
Title: Re: nolvadex or clomid
Post by: 4thAD on July 31, 2006, 02:08:47 PM
You should start the hcg 3-4 weeks into cycle. At 250-500IU's E3D. I have heard that some HRT dr's actually prescribe hcg at doses of 150iu daily.