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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: 240 is Back on July 17, 2006, 04:48:40 PM
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Damn... they busted this dude for smuggling gear INTO Iraq to help his team do better in the field.
http://www.getanabolics.com/art_071706_specops.php
(http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/images/MIL_US_Special_Forces_Entry_lg.jpg)
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Yeah, no shit... why the hell would they bust anyone working in that capacity is beyond me.
I used to be in the military - I actually trained to be a SEAL, and in my mind, using gear for those guys is a good thing!
I mean, we expect these people to carry out the most hardcore missions worldwide, but chastize them if they use a little gear - WTF?
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Who wrote this article? Any idea?
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Who wrote this article? Any idea?
Dunno. the staff at www.GetAnabolics.com might know. They have a million articles on gear, etc.
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Yeah - I agree... I mean, we expect these people to do some pretty rough shit - why not let them "supplement" with a little something that will help them keep the edge and bring the aggression?
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I don't know KFC from PFC... but I asked and the guy who wrote the special ops piece was a SEAL Team 3 Operator who prefers to remain anonymous.
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this is stupid with the new robot arms the soldiers will be getting.
there will be no need for gear once we have androids.
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Say no to drugs. :)
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i train government agents in taticle firearms 5 times a year and you would be suprised at how many are on gear
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Do you guys honestly think that gear makes these guys better soldiers, cops, firemen? They use it for personal reasons just like everyone else, they do have a better excuse though. Fuck the tanks, submarines, and missiles, just put an Army of a third world country on some gear, and you will have a military superpower.
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Do you guys honestly think that gear makes these guys better soldiers, cops, firemen? They use it for personal reasons just like everyone else, they do have a better excuse though. f**k the tanks, submarines, and missiles, just put an Army of a third world country on some gear, and you will have a military superpower.
retard
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Well, the US Military can't use gear because it would give us an unfair advantage over the enemy (other than the guided cruise missiles, the Patriot Missile Defense system, and nukes). We try to keep the playing field as level as possible when it comes to the lives of American soldiers and baseball.
Special "Support the Troops: Send Cypionate" Ed
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dont forget that steroids can be dangerous for your health!!!
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dont forget that steroids can be dangerous for your health!!!
haha
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retard,
If you really think that steroids will make better soldiers, cops, and firemen, "retard" is a good description of you.
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If you really think that steroids will make better soldiers, cops, and firemen, "retard" is a good description of you.
So you don't think that quicker recovery time and being physically stonger will help a soldier, cop or firefighter? Where are you from 1975? When those "dang steeroids don't really work."
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Soldiers, cops, and firemen, go through extensive training to make sure that they can hanlde any situation that is thrown their way. Technology has revolutionized warfare and if there are any drastic improvements to battlefield performance they will come from that area than anywhere else. Cops and firemen work as units and teams, when there is a potentially dangerous situation they call for back up. I agree there are probably some cops that might benefit from steroids, but these are the guys that were the 130lb. weaklings in high school, who became cops just so that they can feel tough with a badge and a gun, those guys should not be cops in the first place.
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If I was in Iraq, dodging death on a daily basis, i'd be doing anything I could to gain any kind of edge, whether it be taking speed to be a tad more alert/quick or a little dbol to sprint 20 feet a little faster.
Unless the guy was bringing in major weight, they should have slapped him on the wrist.
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Strength and size mean absolutely nothing on a battlefield. Audie Murphy was probably the greatest American soldier of all time, and he was a skinny 140 lb runt. Steroids wouldn't do a damned thing to make someone a better soldier.
I don't see why cops would need steroids either. How hard is it to "recover" from a long day of eating donuts in a parking lot?
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RIP PAT TILLMAN
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Strength and size mean absolutely nothing on a battlefield. Audie Murphy was probably the greatest American soldier of all time, and he was a skinny 140 lb runt. Steroids wouldn't do a damned thing to make someone a better soldier.
I don't see why cops would need steroids either. How hard is it to "recover" from a long day of eating donuts in a parking lot?
I'll agree with this for the most part.
For the most part in the SF or Marines, weights are never implemented (Training with bodyweight & long endurance running.)
Depending on the gear chosen, it could actually hinder performance. When I was in the Corps, using gear & long distance running doesn't mix well. Then again, it boils down to what gear regime is being used, but I know personally of a couple young marines dying of a heart attack during a long distance conditioning run while on gear.
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If there is anything they could have use for, it would be something to help their endurance.
Like EPO or NESP.
I doubt that AAS would be of any help at all, since there is no weightlifting contests to decide the outcome of situations of war.
Problem with EPO or NESP, is the administration and safety. The blood can thicken too much.
YIP
Zack
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Try doing pushups, pull-ups, sit-ups, and dips all day long in between 3-14 mile runs in wet clothes with boots and a pack on (TRAINING) - or humping up and down hills all day in the 120 degree desert in between bouts of extreme adrenaline surges while shooting and being shot at (WAR) and tell me that something that might give you a little edge by helping you recover faster won't do anything.
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i think we should mail each soldier an envelope full of glutamine. that will help their recovery.
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why dont we just give them cocaine like the south americans and africans ;D
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When it comes down to wrestling down some 300 dude on PCP, roids would come in very handy.
That's exactly why cops have guns and nightsticks, and most importantly should not jump into a situation like that one on one. Anyone who does that is an adrenaline junkie trying to be a hero, another type of person you do not want on AAS.
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That's exactly why cops have guns and nightsticks, and most importantly should not jump into a situation like that one on one. Anyone who does that is an adrenaline junkie trying to be a hero, another type of person you do not want on AAS.
you cant always use your gun or your too close to use your nightstick and you have to fight unless you have tactical training/experience you will never understand how these things work so people like you get on the soapbox and give your opinion, I'm not talking shit just stating facts that until you have been there you have no idea and i will agree with you i trained a lot of people that had questionable personality's and i didn't understand why this person was allowed to carry a firearm its like they just got the job to say they were a hardass and those people are the assclowns of the system that you are referring to who do not need AAS
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I guess you don't know much about PCP. You can shoot a guy on PCP and he will still come at you unless you kill him. A night stick would do nothing and say for instance your partner gets shot or beat up by the guy on PCP, you might need that extra edge to take him down until back up arrives. All I'm saying is think beyond the easy situations. Many things come up on the streets the average person wouldn't even consider. Most of the time, one guy will require four officers to get him down when he is resisting.
exactly thats why they switched from a 38 to a 45 when we were fighting certain south American country's and also why we are about to go from 9mm back to 45 you just cant kill these guys so you have to have something big enough to blow their head or heart out and as far as fighting them your not always going to strike gold with that train wreck ;)
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you cant always use your gun or your too close to use your nightstick and you have to fight unless you have tactical training/experience
I absolutely i agree with you, but these guys "DO" have tactical training/ expirience, my whole point is that thses guys come out prepared for these situations, especially the elite armed forces units, thats why these guys are so respected. And if you are natuarally so tiny that even after all the training you still don't feel comfortable in situations like that, go back to school and become an accountant.
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I absolutely i agree with you, but these guys "DO" have tactical training/ expirience, my whole point is that thses guys come out prepared for these situations, especially the elite armed forces units, thats why these guys are so respected. And if you are natuarally so tiny that even after all the training you still don't feel comfortable in situations like that, go back to school and become an accountant.
thats the problem we don't really teach fatal hand to hand combat we do more submission and stuff that will not win a fight to the death thats why i refuse to teach anything other than tactical driving and tactical firearms what i teach will save there life the fighting they teach pretty much insures your death unless you have the ability to overpower them
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thats the problem we don't really teach fatal hand to hand combat we do more submission and stuff that will not win a fight to the death thats why i refuse to teach anything other than tactical driving and tactical firearms what i teach will save there life the fighting they teach pretty much insures your death unless you have the ability to overpower them
true, but all training and tactics equal, i'd give the edge to the guy on gear
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Most Spec Ops guys are not big, it is a matter of the punishment their bodies takes from training and missions.
I dont know about that....
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Strength and size mean absolutely nothing on a battlefield. Audie Murphy was probably the greatest American soldier of all time, and he was a skinny 140 lb runt. Steroids wouldn't do a damned thing to make someone a better soldier.
I don't see why cops would need steroids either. How hard is it to "recover" from a long day of eating donuts in a parking lot?
first paragraph of what you said is right on. second paragraph should be right on but it's not,,many cops use hormones because they are also bodybuilders,,sounds weird but thats life. no cop that I know of, and i know MANY in the usa, will bust you for the use of hormones,,,what they bust you is on destribution,, and the use and/or distribution of narcs. the reason domestic supplier in the usa get busted by le is their louzy operation of ,in 99%, narcs.
hormones in some form are used by more than 50% of the american adult population if you ask me
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true, but all training and tactics equal, i'd give the edge to the guy on gear
i totally agree but as i already said some of these people are not mentally stable enough for gear and if you make a rule for someone you have to make it for everyone otherwise i completely agree with you
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The Nazis were some of the very first to experiment with anabolics. They gave stormtroopers shots of Test to make them more aggresive in battle.
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Bottom line is, steroids make you more aggressive and recover faster - both very helpful traits for operators to have... not to mention the added benefits of strength.
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i think we should mail each soldier an envelope full of glutamine. that will help their recovery.
I'd suggest sending the US and UK governments over there and bring the soldiers back. Faced with the possibility of coming back in bodybags the politicians would find a solution to the problems both in Iraq and the Middle East withing minutes.
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Well I know many past and present operators and I'll stick to my guns on that one.
I'll drink to that!
Size don't jive so well with running, swimming, humping - and I don't mean that kind of humping either - actually yeah, that kind of humping too!
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Well I know many past and present operators and I'll stick to my guns on that one.
As do I. Im not saying that they're all huge, but Im saying its closer to 50/50. :)
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you're high...
we're not talking about regular infantry guys here - we're talking about the very few members of units like Force Recon, SEAL's, Special Forces, Delta, etc.
They don't come big - sure, every once in a while you get a big guy - but typically these fellas would have more of a "Men's Fitness" physique rather than that of a bodybuilder - and in reality, most of these guys look just like your average guy off the street...
...with the exception of the thousand yard stare!
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dont forget that steroids can be dangerous for your health!!!
once you become addicted to it, you pay the price
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you're high...
we're not talking about regular infantry guys here - we're talking about the very few members of units like Force Recon, SEAL's, Special Forces, Delta, etc.
They don't come big - sure, every once in a while you get a big guy - but typically these fellas would have more of a "Men's Fitness" physique rather than that of a bodybuilder - and in reality, most of these guys look just like your average guy off the street...
...with the exception of the thousand yard stare!
You watch too many movies
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It should be treated like the gays in the military. Don't ask, Don't tell. If somebody is really abusing them, it will show and they should be taken off them. If somebody's just doing a normal cycle to keep that edge, weather it be mental or physical, so be it and more power to US.
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It's funny how you guys act like anybody who juices is going to put on 50-75lbs. It all depends on what the guy is taking and what amounts.
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You watch too many movies
Just speaking the truth partner...
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Just speaking the truth partner...
Just wondering, what experiences are you speaking from?
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Just wondering, what experiences are you speaking from?
Shhhhh, it's all Top Secret!
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Experience of years working in and around the community, slick... you?
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Say yes to drugs! :P
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I bet a guy on nubain could soak up a lot of bullets and keep on charging.