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Title: ok guys what do you thank about this cycle
Post by: KAM on July 20, 2006, 06:07:38 PM
 week 1-12 sus 250 500mg
 week 1-12 deca  200mg
 week 13-15 nolva 20mg ed

 stats
200lb, 10% bf, 6'  im a newbi  only my 2nd cycle
Title: Re: ok guys what do you thank about this cycle
Post by: bigjohn_bluesfan on July 20, 2006, 06:12:38 PM
up the test to 600mg
up the deca to 300mg
take a-dex .5 mg eod

add in 50mg d-bol in the first 4 weeks

cut the deca two weeks before you cut the test
Title: Re: ok guys what do you thank about this cycle
Post by: sydewide on July 20, 2006, 06:17:01 PM

add in 50mg d-bol in the first 4 weeks

Why only 4 weeks?  I mean i know it takes test a while to kick in but can you do dbol for longer?
Title: Re: ok guys what do you thank about this cycle
Post by: Luv2Hurt on July 20, 2006, 06:21:44 PM
Deca cycles need to be longer.  At end the sust will fade away but that suppressive deca will still be there.  Impotance and low libido are the results of that.

I dont like sust period, way too hard to manage, that stuff is all over the place with all those esters.  That deca dose is too low to do much good also, if your gonna shut yourself down you may as well do it right.  Also run the nolva at least 4 weeks at the end.

1-18 test prop 150mgs EOD
1-14 deca 400mg EW

Nice and simple, eat, train hard, sleep and grow
Title: Re: ok guys what do you thank about this cycle
Post by: sportingsteroids on July 20, 2006, 06:26:39 PM
it look good to me
Title: Re: ok guys what do you thank about this cycle
Post by: udeluz on July 20, 2006, 06:35:31 PM
I definitely see a change in this board (thats a good thing) before the first reply to a post like this would have been "what are your stats"

Title: Re: ok guys what do you thank about this cycle
Post by: bigjohn_bluesfan on July 20, 2006, 06:36:15 PM
add in 50mg d-bol in the first 4 weeks

Why only 4 weeks?  I mean i know it takes test a while to kick in but can you do dbol for longer?

some people run it 6 weeks tops but that shit is hard on your liver....
Title: Re: ok guys what do you thank about this cycle
Post by: bigjohn_bluesfan on July 20, 2006, 06:38:31 PM
Deca cycles need to be longer.  At end the sust will fade away but that suppressive deca will still be there.  Impotance and low libido are the results of that.

I dont like sust period, way too hard to manage, that stuff is all over the place with all those esters.  That deca dose is too low to do much good also, if your gonna shut yourself down you may as well do it right.  Also run the nolva at least 4 weeks at the end.

1-18 test prop 150mgs EOD
1-14 deca 400mg EW

Nice and simple, eat, train hard, sleep and grow


Id rather manage the sust or use test-e than to be sticking myself every damn day with that painful ass prop....... this is obviously true what you say. It has a great benefit because that prop IS very consistent but thats too many weeks to be using prop IMO
Title: Re: ok guys what do you thank about this cycle
Post by: udeluz on July 20, 2006, 06:39:07 PM
I ran it 6 weeks,

My next cycle will be only 4 weeks of A-Bombs
along with Test and EQ, maybe some Tren in there too
Title: Re: ok guys what do you thank about this cycle
Post by: KAM on July 20, 2006, 07:02:11 PM
i have to stay away from the d-bol it makes my hair fall out.  d-bol was my first cycle.
Title: Re: ok guys what do you thank about this cycle
Post by: sportingsteroids on July 20, 2006, 07:03:58 PM
so what are your experiences for  first time dbol?
Title: Re: ok guys what do you thank about this cycle
Post by: hendog on July 20, 2006, 07:12:46 PM
I ran it 6 weeks,

My next cycle will be only 4 weeks of A-Bombs
along with Test and EQ, maybe some Tren in there too
Interesting combo, have you ever ran this cycle before and if so what were your gains like?
Title: Re: ok guys what do you thank about this cycle
Post by: udeluz on July 20, 2006, 07:17:06 PM
Im only talking 4 weeks on the A=Bombs

Never ran the tren
Title: Re: ok guys what do you thank about this cycle
Post by: hendog on July 20, 2006, 07:19:54 PM
Im only talking 4 weeks on the A=Bombs

Never ran the tren
I was always curious as to what Test E, EQ, Abombs and Tren would provide in quality gains. Have you ever done just the Eq, Test E and abombs together?
Title: Re: ok guys what do you thank about this cycle
Post by: KAM on July 20, 2006, 07:22:22 PM
first time with d-bol was good i run it for 7 weeks. my gains were good and i keep maybe 75% of what i gained.  but after that i noticed my hair starting to thin so ive been kinda skeptical about doing another cycle but i didnt know anything about roids at the time so i didnt do any pct.   thats why if i do another cycle i want to start small to see what kinda side effect i will have.
Title: Re: ok guys what do you thank about this cycle
Post by: sydewide on July 20, 2006, 07:24:17 PM
Does liquid dbol (taken orally) have the same toxicity as pills?  Just asking becasue i have the liquid stuff and thats why i was asking about the time length.
Title: Re: ok guys what do you thank about this cycle
Post by: sportingsteroids on July 20, 2006, 07:36:11 PM
liquid dbol will be more effective if u use it like injectable
Title: Re: ok guys what do you thank about this cycle
Post by: sydewide on July 20, 2006, 07:38:55 PM
you mean like actually inject the same dosage instead of orally?
Title: Re: ok guys what do you thank about this cycle
Post by: liftnbig on July 20, 2006, 08:08:31 PM
up the test to 600mg
up the deca to 300mg
take a-dex .5 mg eod

add in 50mg d-bol in the first 4 weeks

cut the deca two weeks before you cut the test
agreed

take the test on out to 14 weeks
Title: Re: ok guys what do you thank about this cycle
Post by: Luv2Hurt on July 20, 2006, 09:51:59 PM
I definitely see a change in this board (thats a good thing) before the first reply to a post like this would have been "what are your stats"



If you read the first post he listed his stats.  This poster was educated and asked the question in the proper way.  Thats why he got replys.  There is nothing wrong with asking for someone's stats, it would be wrong not to.
Title: Re: ok guys what do you thank about this cycle
Post by: Luv2Hurt on July 20, 2006, 09:57:29 PM

Id rather manage the sust or use test-e than to be sticking myself every damn day with that painful ass prop....... this is obviously true what you say. It has a great benefit because that prop IS very consistent but thats too many weeks to be using prop IMO

Well than use the sust.  Prop only needs to be injected EOD.  Will agree though it is a lot of pinning even at that.  But come on painful?? I guess some people just have a lower threshold for pain.  Me I Luv2...... :D
Title: Re: ok guys what do you thank about this cycle
Post by: whitewidow on July 20, 2006, 11:39:03 PM
up the test to 600mg
up the deca to 300mg
take a-dex .5 mg eod

add in 50mg d-bol in the first 4 weeks

cut the deca two weeks before you cut the test

BUMP.
Title: Re: ok guys what do you thank about this cycle
Post by: sportingsteroids on July 21, 2006, 05:34:54 AM
you mean like actually inject the same dosage instead of orally?
yeah
Title: Re: ok guys what do you thank about this cycle
Post by: dirtyman_209 on July 21, 2006, 05:42:43 AM

Id rather manage the sust or use test-e than to be sticking myself every damn day with that painful ass prop....... this is obviously true what you say. It has a great benefit because that prop IS very consistent but thats too many weeks to be using prop IMO



prop isnt painful at all after you get past the first week
Title: Re: ok guys what do you thank about this cycle
Post by: sportingsteroids on July 21, 2006, 05:48:47 AM
but it is more painfull than test  e
Title: Re: ok guys what do you thank about this cycle
Post by: bigjohn_bluesfan on July 21, 2006, 09:07:01 AM


prop isnt painful at all after you get past the first week

please tell me where I can find prop that only hurts during the first week
Title: Re: ok guys what do you thank about this cycle
Post by: Luv2Hurt on July 21, 2006, 12:19:31 PM
What a bunch of wussys, "it hurts too much wahhhhh"  ;D
Title: Re: ok guys what do you thank about this cycle
Post by: ZEEK on July 21, 2006, 12:22:08 PM
ouch quit it  ;) ouch ouch
Title: Re: ok guys what do you thank about this cycle
Post by: sportingsteroids on July 21, 2006, 12:45:12 PM
please tell me where I can find prop that only hurts during the first week
no where
Title: Re: ok guys what do you thank about this cycle
Post by: Arnold jr on July 21, 2006, 12:47:18 PM
week 1-12 sus 250 500mg
 week 1-12 deca  200mg
 week 13-15 nolva 20mg ed

 stats
200lb, 10% bf, 6'  im a newbi  only my 2nd cycle
*Run your test 16 wks...although optional, switch to prop the last 4 wks. Deca at 200mg wk will provide some good joint relief and with the added test it will help in gains somewhat.

*If you decide to bump up the deca dose to 400mg wk, which would be a more sufficient dose, you're going to want to raise test doses slightly.

*Another option would be to add in proveron if you keep the test at 500mg wk and deca at 400mgwk but there is no guarantee this will be sufficient to keep libido functioning...a very individually based kind of thing.

*If you go with the prop at the end of cycle and drop deca 3-4wks before last prop pin, PCT starts the next day. If you go with sust until the end, then PCT starts 3wks after last pin...either way, bump the nolva dose up to 40mg ed the first wk, 30mg 2nd wk and 20mg 3 and 4th wk if you go 4 wks.
Title: Re: ok guys what do you thank about this cycle
Post by: bigjohn_bluesfan on July 21, 2006, 02:35:30 PM
no where

exactly   ;)
Title: Re: ok guys what do you thank about this cycle
Post by: freakfestMD on July 21, 2006, 02:50:41 PM
week 1-12 sus 250 500mg
 week 1-12 deca  200mg
 week 13-15 nolva 20mg ed

 stats
200lb, 10% bf, 6'  im a newbi  only my 2nd cycle

If you are a newbie:

Week 1-12 test enth 500mg
Week 13-16 test prop 500mg (optional or just continue the test e)
Week 1-12 deca 200mg

arimidex 0.5 mg ed throughout cycle
hcg 300mg every 5 days throughout cycle
PCT as described by arnie.