Why ask a question when you already know the answer?
You start about ten threads everyday which will go into an argument about roids and GH abuse and then you start insulting someone.
You should f**k more. ;D
richard jones
Jojo nitforo is somewhat of a poster child over at ironage.
Boy are there some morons on that site.
JoJo: I think in the 70s and up until the early 90s bodybuilders had physiques that most of the general public would not necessarily consider attainable, but found to be ideal and something they would want to look like. Now, due to an over emphasis on freaky mass, a lot of the top physiques just aren't appealing to the average eye. I am not saying that a limit should be put on muscle mass, just that we as bodybuilders should put the same emphasis on symmetry, proportion, condition and presentation.
And there aren't any morons at this site? Including you? ::)
phase 1 to meltdown initiated.Hehe. Adonis....Your exit strategy is complete.
Adonis quit yer bitching...take juice so you can find out that your one of those people with shitty genetics that still look like shit even on the sauce.. :-*
Adonis quit yer bitching...take juice so you can find out that your one of those people with shitty genetics that still look like shit even on the sauce.. :-*
Why ask a question when you already know the answer?
You start about ten threads everyday which will go into an argument about roids and GH abuse and then you start insulting someone.
You should f**k more. ;D
I think you're the one with the shitty genetics, Adonis destroys you.
ripped!
Bast is it me or you JUST like having adonis nuts rest on your chin ?
It's you.::)
Did you decide to drop out of competing in Mr. Getbig after you saw my pictures JaeJonna?
I don't blame you.
Don't hate me cuz you're fat.
Who is he?
And don`t give me Dave Henry Bullshit. He does not look like an Ironager.
You certainly don't look iron age, lol. Your 'natural' yet mysteriously bloated ass looks like an ad for GH and 'slin' and all that shit you pussies love to hate on.
P.S. I'm natural and bigger and better than you
You certainly don't look iron age, lol. Your 'natural' yet mysteriously bloated ass looks like an ad for GH and 'slin' and all that shit you pussies love to hate on.ok, "bear" hahahahahaha, go lick your boyfriend's taint.
P.S. I'm natural and bigger and better than you
WOW! I just realized how big of a douche Adonis truly is! It's growing by the second! :o :o :o :o
hahaha you are small and goofy....You don`t even workout as evidenced by your picture with Jay Cutler. The only conclusion of why you go to bodybuilding shows, is in the hopes that you will attract a muscular gay male that likes a twink such as yourself.hahahahaha, yes Adonis, "thisKeith" tries to break the ice by asking questions on glute training and then goes in for the kill, hahahaha, gayer than swimming.
ok, "bear" hahahahahaha, go lick your boyfriend's taint.
lol, you're as gay as your cock is short Cuntcasm.that's not what your wife says.
hahaha you are small and goofy....You don`t even workout as evidenced by your picture with Jay Cutler. The only conclusion of why you go to bodybuilding shows, is in the hopes that you will attract a muscular gay male that likes a twink such as yourself.
poor, are you 12?
He said in the BFTO 2004 that he spends $200 a week on food. I wish I could spend that much and look like him.how much do you spend matt?
He said in the BFTO 2004 that he spends $200 a week on food. I wish I could spend that much and look like him.
Oops. Must of insulted a member of the site.
By chance could you be one of the morons i was referring to ;)
I had accidentally posted a link where the word "negro" was in it and one person got offended and said negro was a disrespectful and racist word. I apologized for posting what I did and explained it was just his opinion that the word negro was offensive and that I actually think the word is a great one - very spiritual and one which I would much prefer to use over whatever politically correct term is used today.
Then people tried to argue that it was a matter of fact that "negro" is offensive. Actually no - it's a matter of opinion, period. I would call anyone trying to argue otherwise a moron - maybe not in those words though, but still.
if you go to ironage (from what i heard, never even been to the site) it's like Mayhem , but worshipping bb'ers who are old balls or dead by now.
here...you can display your worship of "old school" all you want, but when someone says it's stupid, don't get offended. here, all opinions are welcome.
even from the homos.
Thank you both.
When the membership of a bbing board outright deny or refuse to accept steroids have a major role to play in the construction of great physiques, i feel that is enough to qualify them as morons.
At least here theres a greater degree of freedom of speech. I mean "negro", come on fer cryin out loud.
Thank you both.
When the membership of a bbing board outright deny or refuse to accept steroids have a major role to play in the construction of great physiques, i feel that is enough to qualify them as morons.
At least here theres a greater degree of freedom of speech. I mean "negro", come on fer cryin out loud.
here...you can display your worship of "old school" all you want, but when someone says it's stupid, don't get offended. here, all opinions are welcome.
even from the homos.
Vander ain't a pro. He used to have a great old school physique.
Haven't seen anything from Mr Headband in awhile. I'm sure he fcuked up his potential trying to become big enough to please the gay judging at NPC contests, only lusting for mass.
The reason why they don't get offended here is because over at Ironage they know what real bodybuilding is and what it took to get there, here most of the "children" on this board don't know their ass from a hole in the ground and would rather make fun of the true bodybuilders who actually worked hard for their physique. Maybe the "children" should take a lesson instead of bash them!
i dig Ironage.us a lot and post there sometimes under a different handle, but i gotta say that the members on that board do get pretty self-righteous in an "old man who finds the world confusing and scary" sorta way. as if acting QUOTE UNQUOTE mature, is their defense mechanism against youth. i mean, dude, get off your fuckin high horse already.
I agree, ironage in small doses is good, much like Getbig.. BTW, has anyone read True Adonis' posts on ironage?? If he didn't post his picture, I woud have sworn it was someone else.. :-\ .. cringeworthy
I agree, ironage in small doses is good, much like Getbig.. BTW, has anyone read True Adonis' posts on ironage?? If he didn't post his picture, I woud have sworn it was someone else.. :-\ .. cringeworthy
To his credit, he wants to learn and if he wants to learn more power to him and Ironage is the place, there's alot of old pro's who post on there and alot mutual respect.
Rich2, it's not a "defence mechanism" against youth, it's people who know vs. the "know it all"!!
but honestly, the "people who know" what? they can probably spout off the competitors in the 1970 Mr Universe, but is that qualitatively different from knowing about today's bodybuilding scene? yea i know that its the "ironage" over there and thats what its about, but its the dismissiveness that turns me off. and i respect Shawn for moderating his site really well, but the fact that they can't have an intelligent conversation about steroids (which this sport depends so much on) leads to just pent up shit. like everyone's got a stick up their ass, and they're proud to show it off. and i know that getbig has its own issues and problems, but at least we can all be honest here. i might think Adonis is a retard, but at least i'll type it to his face.
Have you thought perhaps that drugs were not near as important in those times than they are now and that is why there is no point in discussing them. Its not like today`s bodybuilders openly discuss that they are all made from drugs.
There were no drugs from the 1900s to the Very early 50s. That time period is also covered in "The Ironage". Drugs did not mean a thing then.
Just like training isn't as important as the drugs are today!!
Have you thought perhaps that drugs were not near as important in those times than they are now and that is why there is no point in discussing them. Its not like today`s bodybuilders openly discuss that they are all made from drugs.
There were no drugs from the 1900s to the Very early 50s. That time period is also covered in "The Ironage". Drugs did not mean a thing then.
um, i beg to differ. look, i'm not a drug advocate, but steroids have been prevalent in BBing since at least the late 60's. its a fact, blahblahblah who cares. but to have grown adults be so leary of it??? not that it needs to be discussed nonstop, but when it does everything goes to shit. and they lock the thread, start a NEW thread about how the previous thread was uncalled for, and reprimand everyone like babies. what the hell is that all about? is it good moderating, or facism?
but i seriously like the site, i really do. i feel almost shitty for having this opinion.
Just like training isn't as important as the drugs are today!!
Sure no drugs when Steve Reeves won his titles.
um, i beg to differ. look, i'm not a drug advocate, but steroids have been prevalent in BBing since at least the late 60's. its a fact.
steroids werent even the main issue. the main issue was the manner with which ironagers conduct themselves on their own board regarding the current BBing scene and other boards such as getbig.
Dude, thats not what I'm saying, I'm saying that drugs are more relied on today than the training, back then it was just the opposite!
I agree, were a little takin back with the regression of the industry and it's ephasis on gear instead of building and shaping muscle the old fashon way!
i agree with that in a lot of ways, but the Ironage technically ends in 1991 with Haney. steroids fall well within their chronological jurisdiction. and i think that the topic can be discussed intelligently.
steve reeves was cool. but who was talking about Steve Reeves?
and for the record, Dianobol was created in 1956. i'm not accusing Steve Reeves of anything, but i'm just throwing that little tidbit out there.
And just like I said, Steve Reeves won every title of his before steroids were even around.
1946
Mr Pacific Coast - AAU, Tall, 1st
Mr Pacific Coast - AAU, Overall Winner
1947
Mr America - AAU, Winner
Mr Pacific Coast - AAU, Winner
Mr Western America - AAU, Winner
1948
Mr USA, 2nd
Mr Universe - NABBA, Tall, 1st
Mr Universe - NABBA, 2nd
Mr World, Winner
1949
Mr USA, 3rd
1950
Mr Universe - NABBA, Tall, 1st
Mr Universe - NABBA, Overall Winner
I agree!
congratulations, you know how to work musclememory.com. but reeves didn't become a household name until 1958 when he starred in his first Hercules movie. he starred in muscle movies well into the 1960s. but hey, i got no hate for steve reeves.
They neither deny drug use or refused to accept it . you simply don't know what you're talking about. Shawn likes to keep the steroid debates at bay because they always end up with members fighting . there are a LOT of Ronnie Coleman fans on that board just not a fan of Ronnie now , Shawn & Peter McGough have gone on record as saying Ronnie 2001 ASC is aomg the very best physiques ever shown on a bodybuilding stage !! there are a lot of members who attend many of the pro shows & the Olympia so its not like everyone over there hates the sport of today .
A lot of people don't like that site because they have a stricter policy in terms of their rules , if you don't like their rules simple don't post , but don't make blanket statements about the entire site becaise it shows your ignorance .
And congratulations, you can see all of his pictures and realized just how impressive he was when he was competing completely drug free.
um ok. cuz thats what i started participating in this thread for. seriously, get your head out of your ass.
steve reeves was cool. but who was talking about Steve Reeves?
and for the record, Dianobol was created in 1956. i'm not accusing Steve Reeves of anything, but i'm just throwing that little tidbit out there.
reeves didn't become a household name until 1958 when he starred in his first Hercules movie. he starred in muscle movies well into the 1960s. but hey, i got no hate for steve reeves.
How is that relevant to anything? As T.A. stated Reeves retired from competition before the advent of steroids.
i never said reeves took steroids. but he was still making money off his physique well into the 60s. but from what i recall, steeve reeves wasnt relevant to the conversation from the beginning.
Well it is relevant that you know that he was natural, that way you can educate yourself and anyone who thinks otherwise.
actually it wasn't relevant. you just wanted to sound like you were winning something.
You are just angry that I proved you wrong. I destroyed your notions of Steve Reeves.
I have a hard time believing that Reg Park didn't pop D-bol with Arnold when they trained together. Reg has comparable size to the Oak.
Typical ND doggerel. Takes everything someone says to heart.
The fact that they keep steroid talk at bay you claim if because members end up fighting? Whats the problem, they can't discuss the role of roids without degrading into petulant arguments. I'd like to see them engage in discussions on the steroid board here.
Real mature.
Whats perines and mcgoughs opinion of ronnie asc 2001 got to do with anything? Particularly as you so slyly try to insinuate that the board isnt loaded with bias and hatred for the modern game. I suppose their "opinion" renders the board a welcome place for youngsters who perhaps arent as educated in the history of bbing.
Your'e methods are so transparent.
As for their stricter policy,theres an older thread somewhere containing peoples accounts on the some of the most petty reasons that that board has banned them for.
I suggest you read it.
Thank you both.
When the membership of a bbing board outright deny or refuse to accept steroids have a major role to play in the construction of great physiques, i feel that is enough to qualify them as morons.
At least here theres a greater degree of freedom of speech. I mean "negro", come on fer cryin out loud.
I don't take everything that someon says to heart , I mearly comment on what you say and this is your statement
You made the claim that on Ironage members " deny or refuse to accept steroids " and then proceded to label them as ' morons ' for doing so . don't make blanket statements and then backpeddle by saying I take everything to heart . they don't deny or refuse to accept drug use in the Ironage , seeing the site focuses on much of history of the sport and its heros , they have known about steroids from the begining , so if anyone would know its Ironage.
So for you to make baseless claims and label people ' morons ' shows your ignorance and you're exactly what their trying to keep out of that site . ;)