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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: bigjohn_bluesfan on July 30, 2006, 10:47:18 AM
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This may have been posted before, but there alot of guys here now that Id like to here there opinion from
Im wanting to run HGH on top of my next deca/sust cycle..... Im wondering whats the best way to do this----How much do I need? maybe 500iu
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Im telling you man- save that money and buy a car or something else for yourself-
unless your planning on competing its just not worth the money-
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LOL,
I hear ya bro slin is big $$$$$
Maybe when we are 45-50 years old it will be more affordable
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How much depends on how long you want to run it and at what dose. Personally I do 6ius a day (4 in the am and 2 in the afternoon). I start the growth about a month before my aas cycle and run it for a total of about 6 mos. With a good diet and anabolics and androgens I get great results. Everyone has different experience though.
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4-6 iu ed minimum for 4 months minimum...if you're going to do it, I say run it 6 months and do it right. This is going to put you in the 500-1000iu needed depending on the dose and duration you go with.
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4-6 iu ed minimum for 4 months minimum...if you're going to do it, I say run it 6 months and do it right. This is going to put you in the 500-1000iu needed depending on the dose and duration you go with.
youu guys are right, those prices are rediculous---- I just like what it does to people--- but like widow said I could pay off my truck with 4000 worth of HCG----I guess Im just dreaming---plus I got excited because I was in the mall inn the banana republic dressing room pretending like I was trying on clothes but I was doing all kinds of poses with all those mirrors and I was like-damn--- one mean ass cycle and I'll be a monster--so then I started getting wild ideas ;D
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Im telling you man- save that money and buy a car or something else for yourself-
unless your planning on competing its just not worth the money-
Agree with this. Or unless your pockets are deep!
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Agree with this. Or unless your pockets are deep!
i got tthe cash but where do you draw the line--and explain it to the wife :-[
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You can get pretty good results off of 2 iu's a day, even for 2 months you'll see a huge difference, I don't think you need to run it for 6 months at 6iu's a day, that's like NPC competitor doses. You'll start seeing the results around the 2 month mark. Also you don't have to go for the gold (Humatrope or Serostim) you can go for a cheap alternative like Jintropin by GenSci.
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So what are we talking $$ for 2-3 months?
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You can get pretty good results off of 2 iu's a day, even for 2 months you'll see a huge difference, I don't think you need to run it for 6 months at 6iu's a day, that's like NPC competitor doses. You'll start seeing the results around the 2 month mark. Also you don't have to go for the gold (Humatrope or Serostim) you can go for a cheap alternative like Jintropin by GenSci.
thats more like what I wanted to hear Cap--- you ARE speaking from personal experience right?? Thought so.... what you outlined is about what I had in mind-- I just wanted a booster with my next ccyle to add in some good 100% keepable gains--also change the shape of muscle--- I know where for 260 to get 100iu
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Anytime BigJohn ;)
I would also suggest being on anavar during that time to maximize keepable gains, for some reason anavar and GH work AMAZING together.
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You can get pretty good results off of 2 iu's a day, even for 2 months you'll see a huge difference, I don't think you need to run it for 6 months at 6iu's a day, that's like NPC competitor doses. You'll start seeing the results around the 2 month mark. Also you don't have to go for the gold (Humatrope or Serostim) you can go for a cheap alternative like Jintropin by GenSci.
Here's the problem with low dose GH, especially concerning someone who is still relatively young such as Big John. Most people produce around 2iu of gh naturally until they are in the mid-30's range, so taking in a dose of 2iu ed when you are below this age would be pointless. All you would be doing is replacing natural gh with the injected form which is not much of a benefit. So a higher dose, and I'm not implying a ridiculous dose, should be run and for an extended time for it to be worth anything.
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Arnold-are you suggesting that 2ius/day would suppress natural hgh production even if injected in the morning? If that is what you are saying I'd like to see that research. I've read, and I'll have to dig out from where, that 2 ius does not suppress natural hgh production if injected in the morning (when hgh production is low).
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Arnold-are you suggesting that 2ius/day would suppress natural hgh production even if injected in the morning? If that is what you are saying I'd like to see that research. I've read, and I'll have to dig out from where, that 2 ius does not suppress natural hgh production if injected in the morning (when hgh production is low).
That is my understanding, and like I always say, if I'm wrong I'm wrong and I have no problems admitting it when that is the case. I'm not an expert when it comes to GH, but I think I have a good basic understanding. Hopefully "mem" or "freaker" will shed some light on this for us.
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yeah---cause I know mem knows his GH--- and yeah, it gets kind of confusing--I see where your coming from arnold about the natural gh-- but I just cant see how I could take 2 iu each day for 4 months and not see major changes--- I know peopl who have done it youger than me (Im 29) and got permanent muscle bell changes and permanent muscle gains
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id say the benefit to cost ratio is not very good when it comes to HGH- you literally will spend thousands on a good cycle of it- trust me-I thought about it for awhile myself.
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- - You can get pretty good results off of 2 iu's a day,
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Agree totally with respect to dosages mentioned
(my direct personal experience, past 5 years)
even at the lower end of 2 iu. I feel that it IS more
important to have the balance of ingredients use
EG. Test (androgen), Deca (anabolic) with Hgh,
more than just with high doses of growth . . .
Remodels/refines my physique each time used.
You guys that have seen me post KNOW
that I like Hgh, irrespective of cost.
I think that it IS LIMITED in benefit when
used by most athlete below 30 years old.
*better result when in biological decline,
over the hill ; ) like me.
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This may have been posted before, but there alot of guys here now that Id like to here there opinion from
Im wanting to run HGH on top of my next deca/sust cycle..... Im wondering whats the best way to do this----How much do I need? maybe 500iu
Best way is through anal bombardment ;D How about that Mr. bluesfan
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Best way is through anal bombardment ;D How about that Mr. bluesfan
lol
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Agree totally with respect to dosages mentioned
(my direct personal experience, past 5 years)
even at the lower end of 2 iu. I feel that it IS more
important to have the balance of ingredients use
EG. Test (androgen), Deca (anabolic) with Hgh,
more than just with high doses of growth . . .
Remodels/refines my physique each time used.
You guys that have seen me post KNOW
that I like Hgh, irrespective of cost.
I think that it IS LIMITED in benefit when
used by most athlete below 30 years old.
*better result when in biological decline,
over the hill ; ) like me.
is 29 a good age to start mem?
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Much to do with when you ARE in hormonal decline . . .
In other words a (non-competing) college student would
NOT see the same benefit as you or me. They should
have ample amounts subsequent to their training efforts,
where I feel some may report limited benefits as their
dose is not much above baseline levels.
BJBF, 29 IS a prudent age to consider it . . .
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Much to do with when you ARE in hormonal decline . . .
In other words a (non-competing) college student would
NOT see the same benefit as you or me. They should
have ample amounts subsequent to their training efforts,
where I feel some may report limited benefits as their
dose is not much above baseline levels.
BJBF, 29 IS a prudent age to consider it . . .
Im going to order 200iu and run it for 100 days--2 iu per day during my next cyle of sust/deca ----- I will proly throw in a little turanabol and tren also----- thanks alot mem-- you the man 8)
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John Pm me about the slin
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Big Johns post count is 666 EVIL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH A.....
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Here's the problem with low dose GH, especially concerning someone who is still relatively young such as Big John. Most people produce around 2iu of gh naturally until they are in the mid-30's range, so taking in a dose of 2iu ed when you are below this age would be pointless. All you would be doing is replacing natural gh with the injected form which is not much of a benefit. So a higher dose, and I'm not implying a ridiculous dose, should be run and for an extended time for it to be worth anything.
I agree with Arlond Jr. on this. I remember reading something like this in the past....
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I agree with Arlond Jr. on this. I remember reading something like this in the past....
but my question is: and not trying to be smartass either, but have you or Arnold Jr ran HGH like this at 2 iu per day?---- because Mem has done it and speaks from personal experience--and as much as I trust you and Arnolds AAS knowledge, I have to say I take experience over knowledge here
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only people shooting 2 IU a day are women-
id say at least 6-8 Iu's a day- I would not know from experience- but ive talked too alot of people who have used it.
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-I do not know by experience...
-I remember reading somewhere (as Arnold Jr.) that we produce (at a young age) around 2IU's a day. If my memory is correct, then taking 2IUs a day would not be sufficient...
-I believe MEM is in his 40's, if I'm not mistaken. If he is, then he produces less of the hormone than you Bigjohn. Therefore, 2IU's would give him great results....
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Do you think this stuff from, PHARMACIA EL RAMOZ is any good?
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Do you think this stuff from, PHARMACIA EL RAMOZ is any good?
I dont think so--- send it to me and i will test it to be sure
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-I do not know by experience...
-I remember reading somewhere (as Arnold Jr.) that we produce (at a young age) around 2IU's a day. If my memory is correct, then taking 2IUs a day would not be sufficient...
-I believe MEM is in his 40's, if I'm not mistaken. If he is, then he produces less of the hormone than you Bigjohn. Therefore, 2IU's would give him great results....
Yes, this is my point. 2iu's is not going to have near the effect on an individual in their mid to late 20's like it would a male in their 40's such as mem.
but my question is: and not trying to be smartass either, but have you or Arnold Jr ran HGH like this at 2 iu per day?---- because Mem has done it and speaks from personal experience--and as much as I trust you and Arnolds AAS knowledge, I have to say I take experience over knowledge here
You're right, mem speaks from experience, but I'd like to know if he had the same benefits at a low dose of GH, say when he was around your or my age. That's the biggest reason I haven't run GH yet, I can't afford the dose that I would need based on my age (27).
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Yes, I am 46 years of age, in great general health,
however in gentle hormonal decline, as expected.
I am taking Serostim - known for its sides . . .
Incidentally, I AM N O T (sick or) HIV+
( : counting many blessings ; )
I typically do ONE cycle per year (16 weeks),
normalize (maintain) the remainder of year.
My dosage is mediated by optimum effects and comfort.
EG: carpel tunnel (a gauge? it is working) unfortunately
defines the range of my doses and intervals or breaks
from it use. My range is 2 to 4 ius each day with
short breaks between bottles. I will typically take
as large of dose as I can without great sides.
Bear in mind, I do not plan to compete.
Budget is not that much a factor of use.
I am most interested in the (localized injection) lipolysis
as much as muscular remodeling, targeted injection points.
My experience leads me to believe that even modest
doses (when used) around love handles and belly button,
that fat loss like that of lypo-suction has been ongoing
when used with adrogens and anabolics. Hgh alone had
ALMOST NO EFFECT . . . it must be combined, period.
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well--- #1) I trust 100% what mem is saying and #2) I see where arnold is coming from on not wanting to shell out 520 bucks for 200ius if its ineffective dose---
One think is for sure---i will know from experience soon because I am orering 200 ius and I am going to run 2iu per day for 100 days during my next cycle which will include deca, sust, tren, turanabol, and winny