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Title: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: Bast000 on July 30, 2006, 04:32:08 PM
discuss
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i would'nt get gyno
Post by: Woten on July 30, 2006, 04:34:33 PM
Quote from: Bast000 on July 30, 2006, 04:32:08 PM
discuss

Hit the gear hard for as long as you can, then just save up the cash for the tit removal op

I swear, sometimes I really do want to slap some of you cunts that piss and moan about gyno

GOT TITS
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: Bast000 on July 30, 2006, 04:36:10 PM
haha yes!  i don't have an income yet.  I am gruduating this summer and i am looking for work! 
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: onlyme on July 30, 2006, 04:38:06 PM
Do whatever Vince is doing.  Cause then it goes beyond gyno to actual titties
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: Woten on July 30, 2006, 04:39:31 PM
Quote from: Matt C on July 30, 2006, 04:36:42 PM
Ancillaries.

Shit, listen, how much would four years of Arimidex cost? or Tormifene?

Christ, for the money all of that crap costs, you might as well find a reliable surgeon (Perhaps European) that will do you a good deal on a tit removal op

heck, if you are savvy enough,  try and broker a deal where you can have a cock lengthening op done at the same time
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: jwb on July 30, 2006, 04:39:45 PM
get it taken care of.

i knew a guy who got gyno surgery BEFORE he even started juicing because he knew what he was gonna do to himself over the next 10 years or so.

he got up to 275 at 5 foot 8 back in 1996.
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on July 30, 2006, 04:40:24 PM
Quote from: jwb on July 30, 2006, 04:39:45 PM
get it taken care of.

i knew a guy who got gyno surgery BEFORE he even started juicing because he knew what he was gonna do to himself over the next 10 years or so.

he got up to 275 at 5 foot 8 back in 1996.

how will I lactate when men start carrying babies?
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: Adam Empire on July 30, 2006, 04:41:59 PM
Quote from: Bast000 on July 30, 2006, 04:36:10 PM
haha yes!  i don't have an income yet.  I am gruduating this summer and i am looking for work! 

Then you may want to pass the new job drug test before using the juice.
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: Bast000 on July 30, 2006, 04:46:17 PM
Quote from: Adam Empire on July 30, 2006, 04:41:59 PM
Then you may want to pass the new job drug test before using the juice.

yes, now would be an inopportune time to start.
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: G o a t b o y on July 30, 2006, 04:48:46 PM
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Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: davidpaul on July 30, 2006, 04:50:10 PM
 :-\
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: Ex Coelis on July 31, 2006, 09:24:42 AM
stop being such a pussy - just get on the sauce already
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: ManBearPig... on July 31, 2006, 09:26:49 AM
i have tits already.

i'm worried about baldness.
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: bmacsys on July 31, 2006, 09:28:34 AM
Quote from: onlyme on July 30, 2006, 04:38:06 PM
Do whatever Vince is doing.  Cause then it goes beyond gyno to actual titties

44 DD's!
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: DK II on July 31, 2006, 09:44:51 AM
Quote from: DF on July 31, 2006, 09:30:18 AM
No. Hairloss, fucked up skin from acne/acnescars, heart risks for later (LVH and such stuff mentioned in the D'Arezzo thread), possibility of lowering natural test levels forever, damage to kidneys and liver (risk of dialysis..) ....  The list continues

Yup, tits is the smallest of problems.
Worst thing is you come from your first cycle without hair and your test levels are below average forever.
then you can only go into your next cycle.  :-\
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: Kegdrainer on July 31, 2006, 10:18:31 AM
you can get tits from just working out if you have funny body chemistry.  Nationally 1 in 5 men have some form of gynocomastia regardless of steroid use.  Pot smokers also suffer from a higher incidence of gyno. 
Surgery is expensive, but if you are slick enough you can get your health insurance to pay for the surgery by telling them that it is painful.  Since there is a slight risk for gyno to evolve into male breast cancer they will cover it if you make a big enough stink about it


Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: Heywood on July 31, 2006, 03:02:46 PM
Eventually you'll have to get off of it.  Then you'll look the same as you do now, except you will have worked your ass off and have nothing whatsoever to show for it.

Do it without steroids, and you can build a base that you can build on for the next 30 years or more.

Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on July 31, 2006, 03:59:22 PM
Quote from: Bast000 on July 30, 2006, 04:32:08 PM
discuss

Stay away from androgens and you're good!
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: delta9mda on July 31, 2006, 05:14:22 PM
Quote from: jwb on July 30, 2006, 04:39:45 PM
get it taken care of.

i knew a guy who got gyno surgery BEFORE he even started juicing because he knew what he was gonna do to himself over the next 10 years or so.

he got up to 275 at 5 foot 8 back in 1996.
thats what im talking about!!!!!
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: ManBearPig... on July 31, 2006, 05:19:26 PM
Quote from: Kegdrainer on July 31, 2006, 10:18:31 AM
you can get tits from just working out




is that how you got yours, you ugly ass Dolly Parton wannabe?
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: Mr Anabolic on July 31, 2006, 05:34:36 PM
Anti-E's !!!!!  :-*
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: Stavios on July 31, 2006, 05:36:05 PM
what a stupid thread, haven't you heard about nolvadex  ???
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: Ex Coelis on July 31, 2006, 05:40:13 PM
Quote from: Stavios on July 31, 2006, 05:36:05 PM
what a stupid thread, haven't you heard about nolvadex  ???

according to MD, Gaspari's Nolvadex XT works even better. something about destroying receptors or somesuch . . .

(http://www.heavyweights.net/assets/images/gaspari_nolvadex.jpg)
Title: Re: SHOULD I GET MYSELF CIRCUMSIZED?????????????????????
Post by: alexxx on July 31, 2006, 06:03:18 PM
Umm why you asking us this bast?? /\ /\ /\
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: Stavios on July 31, 2006, 06:04:13 PM
Quote from: DF on July 31, 2006, 05:36:39 PM
You're natural, right?
yes
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: Stavios on July 31, 2006, 06:06:30 PM
Quote from: Big Poppa J on July 31, 2006, 05:40:13 PM
according to MD, Gaspari's Nolvadex XT works even better. something about destroying receptors or somesuch . . .

(http://www.heavyweights.net/assets/images/gaspari_nolvadex.jpg)

I think Arvilla used that thing, look like it works !

he had the biggest gyno I have ever seen when he was fat !
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: Kegdrainer on July 31, 2006, 06:11:50 PM
gyno cant be reversed.  Only removed surgically.  If its just fat, you can lose fat....but the glandular nodes that develop from real gyno need to be cut out of you.  looks like a yellow glob of chewed bubblegum

Someone posted a gyno thread last week with a link to great info if you are that concerned.
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on July 31, 2006, 06:14:37 PM
Quote from: DF on July 31, 2006, 05:35:41 PM

Do you think staying away from androgens will prevent heart changes like LVH, which could give you a heart attack way before you were meant to die?  ::)

Of course not, but that wasn't the question now was it?
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: Big N on July 31, 2006, 09:16:56 PM
Quote from: Kegdrainer on July 31, 2006, 06:11:50 PM
gyno cant be reversed.  Only removed surgically.  If its just fat, you can lose fat....but the glandular nodes that develop from real gyno need to be cut out of you.  looks like a yellow glob of chewed bubblegum

Someone posted a gyno thread last week with a link to great info if you are that concerned.



I've reviewed your replies and you have some good info. about gyno bro. And no i'm not tryna be funny, i got a question have you experianced gyno yourself? Just curious bro
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: Arnold jr on July 31, 2006, 09:25:43 PM
There are no guarantees, but if you do things correctly then you can greatly reduce the risk, but in the end even if everything is done perfectly, it can have a lot to do with ones own genetic predisposition and how their own body responds to AAS.
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: JamieX4200 on July 31, 2006, 09:39:07 PM
Quote from: Kegdrainer on July 31, 2006, 06:11:50 PM
gyno cant be reversed.  Only removed surgically.  If its just fat, you can lose fat....but the glandular nodes that develop from real gyno need to be cut out of you.  looks like a yellow glob of chewed bubblegum

Someone posted a gyno thread last week with a link to great info if you are that concerned.


Actually if you do some research at gyno websites it can be "reduced" but not reversed.
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: Parker_Boy on August 01, 2006, 09:27:30 AM
I don't think there is any way to know for sure that you will or won't get gyno but there are ways to prevent/minimize it's onset. If you run your cycles with proper "rest" in between you can maximize the gears affect without having to submit yourself to the higher doses that some people gravitate towards.....in my opinion that is. Also, there is something to be said for achieving as much as you can without gear but to say that you lose everything when you come off is not accurate.

Regards,

Parker Boy
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: Big N on August 01, 2006, 09:33:38 AM
Quote from: Parker_Boy on August 01, 2006, 09:27:30 AM
I don't think there is any way to know for sure that you will or won't get gyno but there are ways to prevent/minimize it's onset. If you run your cycles with proper "rest" in between you can maximize the gears affect without having to submit yourself to the higher doses that some people gravitate towards.....in my opinion that is. Also, there is something to be said for achieving as much as you can without gear but to say that you lose everything when you come off is not accurate.

Regards,

Parker Boy

In today's IFBB bro, if you REALLY wanna make it big i'd suggest that you'd keep up with the "dosages". And its not a game either, its like playing russian roulette bro. How much can your body take before you notice side effects as a sign of "enough is enough" and then you get off of it, then you go nuts for loosing so much mass? Not worth it, natural i'd say just my personal choice. No offense to anybody using roids.


peace
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: pumpster on August 01, 2006, 09:47:54 AM
Increase the gyno and enter women's BB.
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: Kegdrainer on August 01, 2006, 09:54:57 AM
Quote from: Big Nav on July 31, 2006, 09:16:56 PM

I've reviewed your replies and you have some good info. about gyno bro. And no i'm not tryna be funny, i got a question have you experianced gyno yourself? Just curious bro
no, ive never done steroids.  I do have a buddy from college that got it really bad on one side from gear and no PCT
he ended up shelling out about $3000 to dr. nadler in NYC to correct it
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: Parker_Boy on August 01, 2006, 09:55:35 AM
I don't disagree with you at all Big Nav, I guess I was just coming from it based on my personal experiences with gear. I wonder how many of the members of this board actually aspire to become IFBB pro's? At that level, yes, I think you are playing a dangerous game with your health and need to take the utmost precaution. For me I felt like I had gone as far as I could naturally and wanted to see what I could achieve with some help, I've never wanted to become a pro.  I can't imagine the psychological effects of being that large and then coming back to reality. I have a hard time losing the size that I achieve when coming off myself. But I can say that I have kept some of my gains from gear, certainly not all. I probably should have clarified, my bad. Take Care!

Regards,

Parker Boy
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: MindSpin on August 01, 2006, 10:02:09 AM
I don't think developing gyno just happens over night.  Back when I was geared up, I remember when I was at the peak of my usage sunddenly feeling intense pain/tenderness on my nipples.  I could not even do lying leg extension becasue they hurt so bad.  I think it was the start of gyno.  I immediatelly cut back on the androgens and the pain went away before I grew any tits... 
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: Big N on August 01, 2006, 10:06:32 AM
Quote from: Kegdrainer on August 01, 2006, 09:54:57 AM
no, ive never done steroids.  I do have a buddy from college that got it really bad on one side from gear and no PCT
he ended up shelling out about $3000 to dr. nadler in NYC to correct it



$3,000 bro? That's it?? That's pretty cheap, i thought a good surgeon would be around $6,000-$9,000 grand bro :o

And how was the recovery?
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: Captain Equipoise on August 01, 2006, 04:03:46 PM
I wouldn't trust any over the counter shit to combat estrogen buildup, there's only one Nolvadex, and it's not made by Gaspari...

(http://jncicancerspectrum.oxfordjournals.org/sub-journals/jnci/html/content/vol94/issue5/images/large/43310nolvadex.jpeg)
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: Overload on August 02, 2006, 06:16:26 AM
Quote from: Captain Equipoise on August 01, 2006, 04:03:46 PM
I wouldn't trust any over the counter shit to combat estrogen buildup, there's only one Nolvadex, and it's not made by Gaspari...

(http://jncicancerspectrum.oxfordjournals.org/sub-journals/jnci/html/content/vol94/issue5/images/large/43310nolvadex.jpeg)

Agree...

i would never trust a "suppliment" company with something like Nolva...

 8)
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: rccs on August 02, 2006, 06:29:20 AM
You all talk about ops to tits and save money to 10 years from now! F**ck, only on a rich country like America. In my country, Portugal, we cannot afford to think on ops, whatsoever, i see here some spoiled pussies. If you want something, then, inform youself properly and DO IT. If you are afraid, then get a watch dog. BB or powerlifting is not for gay ass stupid boys. You are afraid os steroids, then don't do it, no one will force you to do it! Train your ass off, eat like there is no tomorrow!!!!!
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: Overload on August 02, 2006, 06:32:06 AM
Quote from: rccs on August 02, 2006, 06:29:20 AM
You all talk about ops to tits and save money to 10 years from now! F**ck, only on a rich country like America. In my country, Portugal, we cannot afford to think on ops, whatsoever, i see here some spoiled pussies. If you want something, then, inform youself properly and DO IT. If you are afraid, then get a watch dog. BB or powerlifting is not for gay ass stupid boys. You are afraid os steroids, then don't do it, no one will force you to do it! Train your ass off, eat like there is no tomorrow!!!!!

Hahahahahaha...someone is a little touchy this morning!

 8)
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: Captain Equipoise on August 02, 2006, 10:01:10 AM
Quote from: Overload on August 02, 2006, 06:32:06 AM
Hahahahahaha...someone is a little touchy this morning!

 8)

Yeah, seriously...wtf was that ?!!
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: Arnold jr on August 02, 2006, 11:29:12 AM
Quote from: Overload on August 02, 2006, 06:32:06 AM
Hahahahahaha...someone is a little touchy this morning!

 8)
Quote from: Captain Equipoise on August 02, 2006, 10:01:10 AM
Yeah, seriously...wtf was that ?!!

I'm with you guys on this one ::)

Quote from: rccs on August 02, 2006, 06:29:20 AM
You all talk about ops to tits and save money to 10 years from now! F**ck, only on a rich country like America. In my country, Portugal, we cannot afford to think on ops, whatsoever, i see here some spoiled pussies. If you want something, then, inform youself properly and DO IT. If you are afraid, then get a watch dog. BB or powerlifting is not for gay ass stupid boys. You are afraid os steroids, then don't do it, no one will force you to do it! Train your ass off, eat like there is no tomorrow!!!!!
...and your point is?????
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: Extreme Muscle on August 02, 2006, 10:46:51 PM
Quote from: G o a t b o y on July 30, 2006, 04:48:46 PM
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that looks f*cking sick!
Title: Re: i would juice if i knew for sure i wouldn't get gyno
Post by: Kegdrainer on August 08, 2006, 03:50:19 PM
Quote from: Big Nav on August 01, 2006, 10:06:32 AM

$3,000 bro? That's it?? That's pretty cheap, i thought a good surgeon would be around $6,000-$9,000 grand bro :o

And how was the recovery?

it was kinda strange, he only got it on the left side.  The right side absolutely nothing.  That's probably why it was cheaper.  He had to wear a compression vest for a few weeks and that was about it.  Soreness for about a month before he was back training full on again.