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Whos going to be the next steroid related death?
these days it seems that people are trying to get more and more massive. You constantly hear pros saying how much heavier they are going to come in at. How they have really "dialed in" their "nutrition" and how their new contract with some supplement company has them making incredible gains.
Meanwhile, they are just injecting more shit into their bodies. The IFBB has turned the idea of weightlifting into a circus sideshow where it doesn't matter if the lions die. There are more beasts to show every day with the way the "sport" is growing and the ringleaders just get richer every day.
Nothing wrong with looking like Frank Zane (not that he was 100% clean either) but i bet he would get more ass than ronnie any day of the week, and probably will live a whole lot longer too.
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Wow - nice. Let's change the term steroid to cigarrete related. Then we can put there alcohol. Then prescription drug addiction, then fast food addiction. And so on...
Someone has a heart attack at age 42. Stuns people. They try and find blame on anything he was taking, using, eating, smoking. Cigarrettes, Nubain, allergic reaction to his prescrption drug, the double cheeseburger he ate. But if it is a bodybuilder, it must be steroid related.
It saddens me to see competitors fall - but so quickly to blame steroids for everything is not fair. Reminds me of what Geraldo would say.
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Who is the FIRST steroid related death?
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What is there like 200 well known pro bodybuilders? and like 2-3 of them have died each year at under 50 years old in the past 5 years or so.
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What is there like 200 well known pro bodybuilders? and like 2-3 of them have died each year at under 50 years old in the past 5 years or so.
yes but what other drugs did they use? alot of bbers who abuse steroids also abuse rec drugs and pain killers. the key word is abuse, not use.
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yes but what other drugs did they use?
Advil.
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You can't say there were any deaths directly from taking steroids like someone dying from a heroin overdose. Steroids indirectly lead to heart attacks because of increasing blood pressure, cholesterol and enlarging of the heart to pump blood to the 250 pounds of muscle or more. Someone can die from a heart who is obese and never did steroids, look at John Candy.
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it aint the juice damnit. we all know that. its the diuretics and other comtest prep stuff. all of the mr olympias are alive so far.
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still waiting for definitive scientific evidence of the first steroid related death
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it aint the juice damnit. we all know that. its the diuretics and other comtest prep stuff. all of the mr olympias are alive so far.
All of the past Mr. Olympias are much smaller now, then didn't maintain their size so that is a big relief on their hearts. But the contest prep does put a much greater strain on the heart plus all the stress doesn't help.
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Wow - nice. Let's change the term steroid to cigarrete related. Then we can put there alcohol. Then prescription drug addiction, then fast food addiction. And so on...
Someone has a heart attack at age 42. Stuns people. They try and find blame on anything he was taking, using, eating, smoking. Cigarrettes, Nubain, allergic reaction to his prescrption drug, the double cheeseburger he ate. But if it is a bodybuilder, it must be steroid related.
It saddens me to see competitors fall - but so quickly to blame steroids for everything is not fair. Reminds me of what Geraldo would say.
Gee,... Where are all those who would normally be calling this the dumbest post ever :-\ LOL... No comments from the anti-steroid board nazis??? LOL... Someone got right in there with "Advil" woo hoo.. don't get to worked up debating Ron on this guys... ::)
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Gee,... Where are all those who would normally be calling this the dumbest post ever :-\ LOL... No comments from the anti-steroid board nazis??? LOL... Someone got right in there with "Advil" woo hoo.. don't get to worked up debating Ron on this guys... ::)
Why would we need to debate Ron on this. He makes some very valid points IMO...
Even when a bodybuilder passes away from cancer, people somehow make it due to their steroid use. What gives?
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It's true that the media loves to blame some vice. Cigarettes, roids, etc. Sure, some people are more prone to disease and heart attacks, but there's no doubt that gear contributes to medical problems for many users, and many users have no problems. The government should worry about real issues, such as drugs and how many kids are fucked up on a daily basis, rather than smokers or roid users. Really, everything should be legal and this country is filled with pussies in government. In other countries you can bang a prositute, smoke weed, then jack yourself full of test. In our country, you can only get wasted, then go kill someone drunk driving. I think I may move.
I could careless what is legal or not, my whole gripe with gear is the majority of users look like an experiment gone wrong. Please kids, if you're going to take gear, have some kind of genetic foundation on which to start with. In general though, to me, drugs are just a waste of time. Ok, need to go play some video games and whack it to internet porn now. ;D
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Who is the FIRST steroid related death?
Exactly!
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the media is fucked up. no one dies as direct result of sport enhancing drugs,,it is the combination of pre existing condition not known to the individual + the abuse of other drugs (narcs,,,pain killers,,heavy consistant uncarefull use of duretics etc) combination of both. you will die faster from an std than from steroids use.
only hormones i would be careful with are trenbolone,,anadrol,,and halo. although even while using them,, if not going extra crazy for super long time (6+ months none stop at 200-250mg drol/ day and 150-200mg trenbolone/day,,50+mg stenox/day),, the bodybuilder will be just fine. those compounds wont work on you for over 4-6 weeks so its a waste to begin with to go over 4-6 weeks.
the doses i see around of 100-150mg drol/day and 75mg trenbolone ace/day for 6-12 weeks wont do nothing to your health. these 2 specific hormones wont do much for your physiqe either past the 6 week mark.
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Wow - nice. Let's change the term steroid to cigarrete related. Then we can put there alcohol. Then prescription drug addiction, then fast food addiction. And so on...
Someone has a heart attack at age 42. Stuns people. They try and find blame on anything he was taking, using, eating, smoking. Cigarrettes, Nubain, allergic reaction to his prescrption drug, the double cheeseburger he ate. But if it is a bodybuilder, it must be steroid related.
It saddens me to see competitors fall - but so quickly to blame steroids for everything is not fair. Reminds me of what Geraldo would say.
I completely agree, my mother used to manage a Cardiac ward in the hospital and she would see numerous 40-50yrs who regualry die of heart attacks attributed to gentetics, horrible diet, smoking and stress------99.9999999999999999% of these people were not steriod abusers or users. Heart Disease in one of the highest ranked killers in men and woman today. Its a societal problem, but of course the media, and these fat ass diabetic politicians blame steriods on it, if someone who dies happens to be a bodybuilder.
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Good point, heart disease is the #1 killer in the US. I guarantee 99.9975% of the people who die from it never touched a steroid in their life.
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Why would we need to debate Ron on this. He makes some very valid points IMO...
Even when a bodybuilder passes away from cancer, people somehow make it due to their steroid use. What gives?
Exactly... I was mocking how they are ready to tag team anyone else that says this but Ron just pops it right out there without much of a prob.. I dunno, :-\ LOL...
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no one dies as direct result of sport enhancing drugs,
bodybuilders have died of diuretics. bodybuilders have died of insulin shock. bodybuilders have died of dnp. but no one has died directly from steroids
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My family has a history of steroids. I hope I don't get steroids, my grandfather died of steroids.
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Is it true or false that a crappy diet without exercise can head someone for a heart attack just as fast if not faster than a steroid user not on a crappy diet? Just wondering because there are plenty of people killing themselves just through diet.
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it must be the whey protein then. Or maybe it's the egg whites that have these guys dropping off at 45
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I will be the next steroid related death. Today I begin my concoction of 8 compounds every 12 hours!
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still waiting for definitive scientific evidence of the first steroid related death
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go fellate a bratwurst homo
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Whos going to be the next steroid related death?
these days it seems that people are trying to get more and more massive. You constantly hear pros saying how much heavier they are going to come in at. How they have really "dialed in" their "nutrition" and how their new contract with some supplement company has them making incredible gains.
Meanwhile, they are just injecting more shit into their bodies. The IFBB has turned the idea of weightlifting into a circus sideshow where it doesn't matter if the lions die. There are more beasts to show every day with the way the "sport" is growing and the ringleaders just get richer every day.
Nothing wrong with looking like Frank Zane (not that he was 100% clean either) but i bet he would get more ass than ronnie any day of the week, and probably will live a whole lot longer too.
WOW!!! All of this coming from a guy whos screen name is "kegdrainer"...how's that Liver doing?
Lisa
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Whos going to be the next steroid related death?
these days it seems that people are trying to get more and more massive. You constantly hear pros saying how much heavier they are going to come in at. How they have really "dialed in" their "nutrition" and how their new contract with some supplement company has them making incredible gains.
Meanwhile, they are just injecting more shit into their bodies. The IFBB has turned the idea of weightlifting into a circus sideshow where it doesn't matter if the lions die. There are more beasts to show every day with the way the "sport" is growing and the ringleaders just get richer every day.
Nothing wrong with looking like Frank Zane (not that he was 100% clean either) but i bet he would get more ass than ronnie any day of the week, and probably will live a whole lot longer too.
...and you will be a person that dies in an obesity-related death.....
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Whos going to be the next steroid related death?
these days it seems that people are trying to get more and more massive. You constantly hear pros saying how much heavier they are going to come in at. How they have really "dialed in" their "nutrition" and how their new contract with some supplement company has them making incredible gains.
Meanwhile, they are just injecting more shit into their bodies. The IFBB has turned the idea of weightlifting into a circus sideshow where it doesn't matter if the lions die. There are more beasts to show every day with the way the "sport" is growing and the ringleaders just get richer every day.
Nothing wrong with looking like Frank Zane (not that he was 100% clean either) but i bet he would get more ass than ronnie any day of the week, and probably will live a whole lot longer too.
why would a young person under any other circumstances, die at a young tender age. I love bodybuilding, I dont deny that, but I dont think the bodybuilding community is able to fool the general public any longer. most people would now questions why a 37yr old man would undergo a quadruple bypass, a 31yr old male dies of an heart attack. and all those magazines outthere portrayed bodybuilders as the ''ULTIMATE IN FITNESS'....it's time to say" does the reward worth the risk" I'M GONNA PONDER ON THIS ONE.
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why would a young person under any other circumstances, die at a young tender age. I love bodybuilding, I dont deny that, but I dont think the bodybuilding community is able to fool the general public any longer. most people would now questions why a 37yr old man would undergo a quadruple bypass, a 31yr old male dies of an heart attack. and all those magazines outthere portrayed bodybuilders as the ''ULTIMATE IN FITNESS'....it's time to say" does the reward worth the risk" I'M GONNA PONDER ON THIS ONE.
Matarazzo's quadruple bypass was the result of eating 8 pounds of red meat almost every day for over 15 years, not steroids.
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Matarazzo's quadruple bypass was the result of eating 8 pounds of red meat almost every day for over 15 years, not steroids.
How the fuck do you know that? Steroids do not cause poor lipid profile that could lead to problems?
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How the f**k do you know that? Steroids do not cause poor lipid profile that could lead to problems?
generally not by themselves. they may contribute to an existing problem, but if you're getting regular blood work, its generally manageable.
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How the f**k do you know that? Steroids do not cause poor lipid profile that could lead to problems?
The red meat had alot more to do with the bad cholesterol clogging his arteries than his lipid profile. Bill Clinton had the same operation done, he never took steroids.
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generally not by themselves. they may contribute to an existing problem, but if you're getting regular blood work, its generally manageable.
The thing is that if you use steroids like a pro it's hard to keep lipid profile in check no matter what you do. The only solution is to come off. IIRC Matarazzo had been on cholesterol meds for a long time.
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The red meat had alot more to do with the bad cholesterol clogging his arteries than his lipid profile.
I'm not sure what you are saying. When I say lipid profile I'm talking of cholesterol obviously. Some steroids like Winstrol can mess up you cholesterol in a matter of days. Red meat wont do that.
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I am not aware of any steroids related deaths. Can anyone here name one?
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go fellate a bratwurst homo
haha still hurting from the bird leg comment I see :D
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