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gh, to blow up like Levrone did, did he simply use massive amounts of Test and Tren? I have heard that Tren is the creme de la creme drug for BBers getting ready for shows. Can you shed some light on a person like him that increased weight for shows?
the question should be what kevin did not take. thats a more suited question.
now since i wasnt with him when he injected solutions or swollowed his tabs i dont know about how much fina/trenbolone he used.
trenbolon made out of fina pellets or powder simply makes you very strong,,size is not its major effect.
trenbolone will do the following for you: will help you gain major strength and will harden your physiqe while adding 5-10lb due to this strength gain. you usually take trenbolone when you already got enough muscle mass on and wanna play around with the quality of your physiqe in addition to have extra agressivness in your training.
in general inorder to blow up nicely you will have to use test (suspension or prop is best although cyp and enan will be less injections for the average person) + nandrolone decanoate + dianabol,,, with gh/slin/cytomel along the way especially during the off times from hormones.
many do use everything together at high doses with lots of proviron and get very big and very hard,,then simply take the water out with some cardio, short easter anabolics/androgenitcs (to maintain as much muscle as possible) and ofcourse good duretic so you can see the xmass tree with out glassess ;) and there you have it ready to compete physiqe.
in kevin's case he done it all in 4-5 months which is very possible if you know your body,,know your stacks,,and know your training. the fact he took off from everything for few months every year only helped him and i recommend this approach very much,,especially if you are 30+,, because you will be amazed how much you grow after you been 6 months off and then jumping on again. you will be amazed. muscle memo and synthetic hormone combo is a wonderfull thing,,,WONDERFUL THING! ;)
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na,,no need for susp in offseason ,,,most susp hurt especially in the amount of injects i need in one day. you usually use susp before competition to avoid detection and to get blown with very low bf%,,it also adds to stamina which is very important when carb depleted and ofcourse it helps fighting depression since many bodybuilders get very depressed while dieting. exteremly depressed.
best bulk you can make in offseason will involve the following brand names: virormone prop or testex cyp (due to the solution they suspended in) + norma hellas deca + british dispansary (not BD!) thai anabol. the gh should be american the insulin should be humalog (preferably) and the cytomel should be pharma human grade.
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Kevin was a big fan of Anadrol. A buddy of mine used to drive to MD to give it to him. Don't know how many he took, but he bought a lot of it.
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Anadrol is the king of precontest drugs IMO.
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the question should be what kevin did not take. thats a more suited question.
now since i wasnt with him when he injected solutions or swollowed his tabs i dont know about how much fina/trenbolone he used.
trenbolon made out of fina pellets or powder simply makes you very strong,,size is not its major effect.
trenbolone will do the following for you: will help you gain major strength and will harden your physiqe while adding 5-10lb due to this strength gain. you usually take trenbolone when you already got enough muscle mass on and wanna play around with the quality of your physiqe in addition to have extra agressivness in your training.
in general inorder to blow up nicely you will have to use test (suspension or prop is best although cyp and enan will be less injections for the average person) + nandrolone decanoate + dianabol,,, with gh/slin/cytomel along the way especially during the off times from hormones.
many do use everything together at high doses with lots of proviron and get very big and very hard,,then simply take the water out with some cardio, short easter anabolics/androgenitcs (to maintain as much muscle as possible) and ofcourse good duretic so you can see the xmass tree with out glassess ;) and there you have it ready to compete physiqe.
in kevin's case he done it all in 4-5 months which is very possible if you know your body,,know your stacks,,and know your training. the fact he took off from everything for few months every year only helped him and i recommend this approach very much,,especially if you are 30+,, because you will be amazed how much you grow after you been 6 months off and then jumping on again. you will be amazed. muscle memo and synthetic hormone combo is a wonderfull thing,,,WONDERFUL THING! ;)
Gh15, why not use equipoise or primobolan instead of deca or dianabol? What's the difference in the effect on your muscle growth?
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Gh15, why not use equipoise or primobolan instead of deca or dianabol? What's the difference in the effect on your muscle growth?
Don't you know D-bol is the breakfast of champions? Deca nd D-bol will blow EQ and Primo out the water! It's not even close!
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Don't you know D-bol is the breakfast of champions? Deca nd D-bol will blow EQ and Primo out the water! It's not even close!
Does dianabol come in injections or only pill form?
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Gh15, why not use equipoise or primobolan instead of deca or dianabol? What's the difference in the effect on your muscle growth?
primo is suited for cutting due to its amazing ability to help you maintain your muscle mass while eating 1200 calories a day.
eq is suited for cutting simply because its makes you hold less water than nandrolone decanoate. yes it makes you hungry over time but it is still better suited for eating 6-7 meals a day while cutting.
dianabol is the best hormone hands down ever created. very fast pump,,very fast gain in over all size,, very fast superman feeling,, very fast strength increase. i can take dianabol by itself and put on over 20lb in less than 3 weeks. only dianabol can do it for you,,anapolon is good but will hurt you more than help you and will take the hunger out of you so as said before when it comes to bodybuilding drol is more suited for cutting if anything.
nandrolone decanoate simply take the calories and "use" them right incase you decide you wanna grow.
test is for agressiveness in gym and stamina in general + a good base for any other hormones taken. it is like drums in a band,,with out it you can play music but it wont have a beat.
the combo of legit pharma human grade test/deca/dbol is unbeatable. it is a lot better than gh and insulin and it is the basic core of any bodybuilder. it is like the FOUNDATION OF THE HOUSE. nothing can happen to the MAX potential if one of these hormones is absent.
eating 5-6 times a day good amount of calorie kinda meals + few dante tp protien shakes (you get what you pay for my friend) + a good multi like natures way alive or something natural + those hormones and good training = 30-40 lb (mostly muscle bulk) in around 10weeks on almost any one!
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Does dianabol come in injections or only pill form?
you can find dianabol in solution. mostly UG or VET grade. i would not suggest using it,,although many do,,because in 99% of the cases it's dirty product and dirty product = problems.
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primo is suited for cutting due to its amazing ability to help you maintain your muscle mass while eating 1200 calories a day.
eq is suited for cutting simply because its makes you hold less water than nandrolone decanoate. yes it makes you hungry over time but it is still better suited for eating 6-7 meals a day while cutting.
dianabol is the best hormone hands down ever created. very fast pump,,very fast gain in over all size,, very fast superman feeling,, very fast strength increase. i can take dianabol by itself and put on over 20lb in less than 3 weeks. only dianabol can do it for you,,anapolon is good but will hurt you more than help you and will take the hunger out of you so as said before when it comes to bodybuilding drol is more suited for cutting if anything.
nandrolone decanoate simply take the calories and "use" them right incase you decide you wanna grow.
test is for agressiveness in gym and stamina in general + a good base for any other hormones taken. it is like drums in a band,,with out it you can play music but it wont have a beat.
the combo of legit pharma human grade test/deca/dbol is unbeatable. it is a lot better than gh and insulin and it is the basic core of any bodybuilder. it is like the FOUNDATION OF THE HOUSE. nothing can happen to the MAX potential if one of these hormones is absent.
eating 5-6 times a day good amount of calorie kinda meals + few dante tp protien shakes (you get what you pay for my friend) + a good multi like natures way alive or something natural + those hormones and good training = 30-40 lb (mostly muscle bulk) in around 10weeks on almost any one!
Good advice but what's a dante tp protein shake?
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ask around they will tell you if they feel like it,,im not up for advertisments
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Good advice but what's a dante tp protein shake?
Dante from TrueProtein is who he is speaking of...
Dante loves getbig members too- how do I know? :)
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Last year in an issue of MD Flex Wheeler wrote in an article about the drugs he was using . He also mention Kevin and the drugs that he was using and how this one particular drug ( I can't remember what it was) and how Kevin was buying it all up and Flex was having trouble getting his hands on it.
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Gh15, why not use equipoise or primobolan instead of deca or dianabol? What's the difference in the effect on your muscle growth?
because primobolan is weak, but if you are AAS sensitive it is a good choice ;)
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Last year in an issue of MD Flex Wheeler wrote in an article about the drugs he was using . He also mention Kevin and the drugs that he was using and how this one particular drug ( I can't remember what it was) and how Kevin was buying it all up and Flex was having trouble getting his hands on it.
Escilene...
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Then what would be a good choice of hormone combo in the off-season to blow up for future competitions at tested shows? Deca would most probably be not the wisest choice for those who want to compete in tested shows. ;)
well it all depends. you have to know your drugs very well inorder to be anything remotely close to a proffessional (as in making money off bodybuilding) bodybuilder that does "natural" shows.
the "naturals" usually replace nandrolone decanoate with nandrolone phenylpropionate and it does the trick for them. girly men ;)
the more hardcore "naturals" use eq which i would not recomend for bulking as much as i recomend nandrolone,,, BUT it works just fine if the "natural" bodybuilder knows his hormones.
the main thing to remember if wanting to compete clean is the easter of your solution. the shorter the easter,, the more likley you will pass any cheap test out there. this applys to all hormones taken before competition and OFCOURSE to any hormones taken during offseason when you got time to do whatever you want. the best choice is ofcourse tablets but many use solutions with zero problems.
for bulking i always recomend nandrolone in all its varieties,,the longest the easter the better but! then again you must remember wether you are npc or a natural organisation. that will determine your use and timing.
i should start charging you for this info :D
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well it all depends. you have to know your drugs very well inorder to be anything remotely close to a proffessional (as in making money off bodybuilding) bodybuilder that does "natural" shows.
the "naturals" usually replace nandrolone decanoate with nandrolone phenylpropionate and it does the trick for them. girly men ;)
the more hardcore "naturals" use eq which i would not recomend for bulking as much as i recomend nandrolone,,, BUT it works just fine if the "natural" bodybuilder knows his hormones.
the main thing to remember if wanting to compete clean is the easter of your solution. the shorter the easter,, the more likley you will pass any cheap test out there. this applys to all hormones taken before competition and OFCOURSE to any hormones taken during offseason when you got time to do whatever you want. the best choice is ofcourse tablets but many use solutions with zero problems.
for bulking i always recomend nandrolone in all its varieties,,the longest the easter the better but! then again you must remember wether you are npc or a natural organisation. that will determine your use and timing.
i should start charging you for this info :D
Let us know your name and address so we can send the cheque ;D
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i have a slight correction to my last post. the post applys to musclemania,,,teamuniverse and such,,there ARE INDEED guys who compete natural with out even one single drop of performance enhancing drugs in their blood. it is not common but there are indeed a number of guys who still do it as of 2006.
dont wana offend the REAL naturals ;)
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Escilene...
That's what Flex and Kev lived on for shows. No wonder Flex was jealous about Kev buying it all up...
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+ few dante tp protien shakes (you get what you pay for my friend)
please qualify this statement
BTW: are you guys seriously blown away by this laymans guide information? yes its all very benevolent, but hardly the keys to the fucking universe
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please qualify this statement
BTW: are you guys seriously blown away by this laymans guide information? yes its all very benevolent, but hardly the keys to the fucking universe
the key my friend in is your avatar
good show GH, keep up the good work, whoever you are.
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piss off you fuckwit, well done for admitting you need to be told how to employ a test/deca/d'boll stack, of course - and as I implied - there is nothing wrong with that, but it does make you somewhat of a know nothing in the grand scheme of things
Still waiting for the qualification re: the [supposed] quality of Dantes protein being reflected in the pricing thereof
I as well as many find his post entertaining. The thought of taking/employing a test/dec stack has never crossed my mind.
regarding so much matters as stated by GH I am a "no nothing" thank god. Does me saying that make you feel better?
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I as well as many find his post entertaining. The thought of taking/employing a test/dec stack has never crossed my mind.
regarding so much matters as stated by GH I am a "no nothing" thank god. Does me saying that make you feel better?
nah not really, its 7pm, I'm eating my post workout tea, and just pissing about to be honest
:D
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With the exception of Lee Priest, this guy seems to have no problem with admitting what works and what a pro would use. Lee has his take on it and GH has his personal account.
...and you believe him, why?
Nothing he has posted breaks ground that couldnt already have been covered by a fifteen year old cut and paste addict from BB.com
The only reason you are so fucking enamoured is your none to high level of learning on the matter
BTW: still waiting on qualification of the statement regarding Dantes protein powder
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nah not really, its 7pm, I'm eating my post workout tea, and just pissing about to be honest
:D
It is 2pm, I am grilling some steaks and waiting for my woman to come over.
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It is 2pm, I am grilling some steaks and waiting for my woman to come over.
Fair play, sounds like a kewl evening, slip her a crippler from me
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Fair play, sounds like a kewl evening, slip her a crippler from me
:o
stupid question LOL, I am going to regret asking but...
what is a crippler?
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stupid question LOL, I am going to regret asking but...
what is a crippler?
Hot length of cock LOL
:D
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piss off you fuckwit, well done for admitting you need to be told how to employ a test/deca/d'boll stack, of course - and as I implied - there is nothing wrong with that, but it does make you somewhat of a know nothing in the grand scheme of things
Still waiting for the qualification re: the [supposed] quality of Dantes protein being reflected in the pricing thereof
let me write it for the REATRDS among us ;): not every protein supp is the same quality,, many companies write isolate or micellar and throw in concentrate and calcium casinate with little bit of isolate or micellar.
i approve of tp (not tomas prince! :D) and would pay the money for that protein over ON it is as simple as that. it is not to say that ON is not ok it is just to say that tp was tested for me and found to be 100% label claims,,nothing less nothing more.
this is NOT recomendation to use tp because i dont give a rat ass of what you use. it is what i approve as tested product,, i also approve yates protein powders,,dymatize elite and beverly. still the best protein come from your lean beef and eggwhite containers!
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I am no English major but what the hell kind of sentence is that?
A perfectly fine one, other than the mispelt 'too', oops a typo!!! my goodness, whatever next? either way, far sooner a typo than your piss poor comprehension skills
The reason why I appreciate what he writes is because not many people know how to take the shit he talks about and am I going to go ask the local juice head in my gym what he is doing? For one he probably doesn't know anything about GH/Slin and most likely just abuses Test to blow up and then goes off and shrinks. Another possible thing any Joe Shmoe could say is simply to "f**k off". It is also interesting and mind boggling to hear how much pros (or former pros) take. Save your self righteous attitude and put the dictionary away because your lame insults coupled with an attempt to sound smart is pathetic.
So, you are all over the guys ballbag because he gives out laymans level info to clowns such as yourself? hey, well done you, that is exactly what I previously stated
Bottom line, you have fuck all idea what most pros do, you are not involved with them at a level where you would know... yet you feel able to qualify your notions of 'what pros take' because some anonymous message board fuckwit has said it to be so?
hahahahahahahaha, jesus, you sad bastard
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let me write it for the REATRDS among us ;): not every protein supp is the same quality,, many companies write isolate or micellar and throw in concentrate and calcium casinate with little bit of isolate or micellar.
i approve of tp (not tomas prince! :D) and would pay the money for that protein over ON it is as simple as that. it is not to say that ON is not ok it is just to say that tp was tested for me and found to be 100% label claims,,nothing less nothing more.
this is NOT recomendation to use tp because i dont give a rat ass of what you use. it is what i approve as tested product,, i also approve yates protein powders,,dymatize elite and beverly. still the best protein come from your lean beef and eggwhite containers!
LOL, no no no, you are not getting off the hook with such poorly crafted works, my friend, we are not talking about mislabeled products, nor scam companies
Tell us why Dantes product is a case of 'getting what you pay for?', then explain why one couldnt simply visit an ingredients wholesaler - or even a bulk powders supplier - and pick up the requisite products for one fifth of the price in five kilo tubs?
Keep it coming, it will be fun revealing you for the clown you are 'hidden pro', yeah ok ::)
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Wow, did I strike a nerve. I never said I knew who he was but with the exception of a few people on this board, people don't know alot about juice. I never claimed to be an expert on it nor do I care to everything about it. You really need to chill out because apparently your "wanker" self can't handle the stress of posting. Sure you can say it is because of "f**k wits" like me but until you prove he ISN'T a pro you look just as dumb as me, not to mention even dumber for getting so angry at the subject.
Oh jesus, did you just challenge me to prove a negative?
LOL, game over, thanks for playing
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LOL, no no no, you are not getting off the hook with such poorly crafted works, my friend, we are not talking about mislabeled products, nor scam companies
Tell us why Dantes product is a case of 'getting what you pay for?', then explain why one couldnt simply visit an ingredients wholesaler - or even a bulk powders supplier - and pick up the requisite products for one fifth of the price in five kilo tubs?
Keep it coming, it will be fun revealing you for the clown you are 'hidden pro', yeah ok ::)
wotten, your bodybuilding knowledge is limited from what i gathered by reading 3 of your posts on this thread.
the reason i said tp is my choice is because it was tested for me. i like to purchase products and test them through my connections and i found that the companies i mentioned are 100% on claim. i DO NOT support them and could care less if they go bankrapcy,,there will always be protein around from solid food,,what i say here is that IT WAS TESTED FOR ME BY MY CONTACTS and that means got the protein supp and only then got it tested! on few diff occations on number of diff products from each of the companies.
i do not care much for the use of supp!
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wotten, your bodybuilding knowledge is limited from what i gathered by reading 3 of your posts on this thread.
Want to bet? get the game on, wanker
the reason i said tp is my choice is because it was tested for me. i like to purchase products and test them through my connections and i found that the companies i mentioned are 100% on claim. i DO NOT support them and could care less if they go bankrapcy,,there will always be protein around from solid food,,what i say here is that IT WAS TESTED FOR ME BY MY CONTACTS and that means got the protein supp and only then got it tested! on few diff occations on number of diff products from each of the companies.
i do not care much for the use of supp!
NO, you made a statement clearly differentiating - on a supposed quality basis - between True Protein and other brands, you then attempted to claim you were talking about scam companies
I challenge you to either a) state fully you were referring only to scam companies, thus rendering your original statement empty and showing you up for the 'all over the place' fool I know you are, or b) back up your statement that TP makes a product that cannot be found cheaper from other suppliers due to their 'lower quality'
Please, choose option b, lets name other company names, for that is the ground you will have to cover in order to qualify your original statement
It will be fun watching you give rise to Ron being inundated by letters from lawyers representing these other 'lesser quality' brands
LOL, you fuckwit, but hey, you are the pro in the know, eh?
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Want to bet? get the game on, wanker
NO, you made a statement clearly differentiating - on a supposed quality basis - between True Protein and other brands, you then attempted to claim you were talking about scam companies
I challenge you to either a) state fully you were referring only to scam companies, thus rendering your original statement empty and showing you up for the 'all over the place' fool I know you are, or b) back up your statement that TP makes a product that cannot be found cheaper from other suppliers
Please, choose option b, lets name other company names, for that is the ground you will have to cover in order to qualify your original statement
It will be fun watching you give rise to Ron being inundated by letters from lawyers representing these other 'lesser quality' brands
LOL, you fuckwit, but hey, you are the pro in the know, eh?
i start not liking you and thats not good for you. you use too many curse words inorder for me to even respond to you. i can find who you are while you CAN NOT find who i am.
my first statment stands kid. tp and yates is one notch above the rest as of 2006. i dont care about this company but you now make me care about it so i will make it look 1000 times better than what it is if you continue talking ;)
you are doing it to yourelf,,
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You want to keep going Woten? Ill put up a certificate of analysis for any product my company sells, and I can do it all day long. Take a look at the above protein percentages. You will not find a protein percentage on any protein in this world sold ANYWHERE that is that high. Most isolates are 90%
When you guys buy "said company's" 100% whey protein, what do you think your getting? 100% whey isolate? Heck no you arent. They dont have to list on the label what percentages you are getting so your getting the wool pulled over your eyes and its most likely 90% whey protein concentrate (very cheap protein) and then 5% isolate and 5% hydrolized.
Whey protein concentrate is about 2.75 to 4 bucks a LB so you add it up in your head then because Isolate costs at LEAST DOUBLE. Guess who gets the short end of the stick there.
There are 2 companies known far and wide on the internet that sell a WPC that is absolutely sawdust. Doug and I at trueprotein because we buy in such large amounts were quoted a price of 98 cents a LB for that same WPC. We tested it out and the protein percentage was 38-42% (despicable) and we told them to go take a hike. I wouldnt give that to a farm animal. We instead carry the highest rated Whey protein concentrate I can find anywhere also at 81-84% protein percentage (and Ill gladly put a certificate of analysis on this thread for that too if you want). Our WPC costs Doug and I over 3x the amount the sawdust WPC does, but I got into this business to sell the absolute best protein I can find...and I get it to people for such low cost because of the no frills packaging and the nonexistant marketing. (Who do you think pays for those 3500 dollars a page marketing ads in muscle magazines?...You do and its tacked on the price of that protein jug you just bought (with the fancy costly label) that you dont know the percentages of cheap WPC to expensive WPI thats in it)
So when you buy from us and you tell us "I want 60% of isolate, and I want 20% of egg white and 20% micellar casein" guess what? Your getting 60% isolate 20% egg white and 20% casein.....
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You have no proof that it is a negative. Take the challenge bro. You won't because you know you can't win. You are like one of those people who says God doesn't exist but doesn't prove his statements.
LOL, post of the year
Please tell me you are 15 years old and havent yet had felt the inclination to read a great deal of heavy textbooks
You are funny, its just a shame you havent a clue just how funny your stupid tiny tits self really is
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How do i get my links to certificates of analysis to work? Its been disabled
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what is LOL?? is this kid wacked?
youre a kid. i never said dante dont buy where every one else buy it. i said the product was TESTED for me by my people. people i trust!
i pay for every single protein product i use,,i never take free stuff from companies i dont represent and you need to be careful becase sooner or later you wont be able to use usps if in usa or any other british or aussie delivery option for your gear with out looking 100 times behind you.
youre a disrespectful joke
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Woten uses proxy servers to log in to getbig so that no one can find him. LOL. The cunt.
:D
cos mi5 are after him. ::)
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You want to keep going Woten? Ill put up a certificate of analysis for any product my company sells, and I can do it all day long. Take a look at the above protein percentages. You will not find a protein percentage on any protein in this world sold ANYWHERE that is that high. Most isolates are 90%
When you guys buy "said company's" 100% whey protein, what do you think your getting? 100% whey isolate? Heck no you arent. They dont have to list on the label what percentages you are getting so your getting the wool pulled over your eyes and its most likely 90% whey protein concentrate (very cheap protein) and then 5% isolate and 5% hydrolized.
Whey protein concentrate is about 2.75 to 4 bucks a LB so you add it up in your head then because Isolate costs at LEAST DOUBLE. Guess who gets the short end of the stick there.
There are 2 companies known far and wide on the internet that sell a WPC that is absolutely sawdust. Doug and I at trueprotein because we buy in such large amounts were quoted a price of 98 cents a LB for that same WPC. We tested it out and the protein percentage was 38-42% (despicable) and we told them to go take a hike. I wouldnt give that to a farm animal. We instead carry the highest rated Whey protein concentrate I can find anywhere also at 81-84% protein percentage (and Ill gladly put a certificate of analysis on this thread for that too if you want). Our WPC costs Doug and I over 3x the amount the sawdust WPC does, but I got into this business to sell the absolute best protein I can find...and I get it to people for such low cost because of the no frills packaging and the nonexistant marketing. (Who do you think pays for those 3500 dollars a page marketing ads in muscle magazines?...You do and its tacked on the price of that protein jug you just bought (with the fancy costly label) that you dont know the percentages of cheap WPC to expensive WPI thats in it)
So when you buy from us and you tell us "I want 60% of isolate, and I want 20% of egg white and 20% micellar casein" guess what? Your getting 60% isolate 20% egg white and 20% casein.....
Ohhhhh, good move, I'm soooo shaken... NOT
Your links dont work, but hey, they are irrelevant, anyhoo, lets keep going
Come on DC, lets get that CoA scanned in, if it is a real CoA it will be from the dairy you source from (or will you blank that tidbit out?) lets get onto just which your dairy use then? oh but you wont though, why? because - AND AS ALREADY STATED - all the tiny tits that buy your overpriced, shit dog food could go direct, couldnt they DC?
Come on, lets fucking have you, tell us all, dont hide behind vague CoA bullshit... dont obfuscate the issue by hiding behind bollocks about not wanting to give away your sources, LOL, yeah, I cant think why you would want to do that, eh?... oh yes I can, FOR THE REASONS I HAVE OUTLINED ABOVE
DC, understand this, I could give two fucks about your sad assed profit margins, all I am interested in is telling folks the honest info, that being, where they can source the stuff you use, you however dont want to do that do you? why? because you are far from he benevolent guy you paint yourself as
Lamer
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Like I said, you can't prove your statements so just drop it. As far as my intelligence, you have no room to comment and again are just pulling statements out of your ass. Honestly, what do textbooks have to do with anything we are discussing?
This was my statement: YOU DONT KNOW THE IDENTITY OF GH, THUS YOU CANNOT STATE HE IS A PRO
refute that, you intellectual, tiny tits cunt
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Did you come out with something revolutionary there? LOLOL I think Woten feels like he just had an "ABC newsflash".
No supplement company makes their own protein-NOONE. What do you think EAS, Prolab, and Weider employees are down on their farms milking cows? They go thru a custom manufacturing place (which is what Trueprotein is) to have them package up their protein for them. Whey is a byproduct of dairy's, the custom manufacturer (like Trueprotein) buys the whey and packages it up for the supplement companies you see on the shelves of GNC and other supplement stores (online or local).
Geraldo Rivera just called Woten--he thinks your fantastic and would like to hire you for your incredible newsbreaking stories (like George Bush is president, and cars run on gasoline) if you are willing to grow a thick mustache.
Oh one more thing--anyone can buy from the dairys if they want to....just make sure you are ready to buy 32-48 pallets of 50LB bags (35-50 bags per pallet) to get the price you need (or even a call back, because they would hang up if you asked to buy 2 bags)...you got well into 6 figures to spend? Start a protein company
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Did you come out with something revolutionary there? LOLOL I think Woten feels like he just had an "ABC newsflash".
No supplement company makes their own protein-NOONE. What do you think EAS, Prolab, and Weider employees are down on their farms milking cows? They go thru a custom manufacturing place (which is what Trueprotein is) to have them package up their protein for them. Whey is a byproduct of dairy's, the custom manufacturer (like Trueprotein) buys the whey and packages it up for the supplement companies you see on the shelves of GNC and other supplement stores (online or local).
Geraldo Rivera just called Woten--he thinks your fantastic and would like to hire you for your incredible newsbreaking stories (like George Bush is president, and cars run on gasoline) if you are willing to grow a thick mustache
LOL, save your weak ad hominem
Bottom line: so you wont back you position up then DC? ipso facto you will continue selling the protein powder you obtain (albeit presented as shit overpriced TP rubbish) to your idiotic clients, when infact you could direct said idiots to a cheaper source of said protein powder?
That all I needed my friend, cheers for vindicating my above post
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LOL, save your weak ad hominem
Bottom line: so you wont back you position up then DC? ipso facto you will continue selling the protein powder you obtain (albeit presented as shit overpriced TP rubbish) to you idiostic clients, when infact you could direct said idiots to a cheaper source of said protein powder?
That all I needed my friend, cheers for vindicating my above post
What the heck are you rambling about? Read my post above. If you got well into 6 figures to spend start a protien company. Minimums for alot of these places start at 10,000 lbs. Minimums for custom manufacturing a blend at a custom manufacturing place is 5000lbs (minimum). Go right ahead and put it on the credit card and be my guest
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woten,, you remind me that "indian" guy from bodybuilding.com i forgot his name that push gf pro?and dorian yates or something like that,,im going to do some research on you. not that i care about over the counter supp but the "rubbish and mate" words and the way you put english down with curssing remind me that kid very much.
i wanna see if you got something to do with the supp industry as a supplier since i have nothing to do with the supp industry and just used tp before and liked it. you seem mad at their success and as i said before i could care less if they went bankrapcy tomorrow,,i just liked the products i tried from them (INCLUDING THE WAXY MAIZE THAT IS HALF PRICE OF VITARGO AND JUST AS GOOD FOR CARB UP,,,not that i use either but for the average person out there)
i also mentioned dymatize and dorian but you only got offended when i mentioned tp that seem like you are mad at dante thus taking the little credability you had out of the window for me atleast.
again i dont give a fuckkk about supp 90% of them are garbage but you gotta be a man and admit to success of others! you failed my friend
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What the heck are you rambling about? Read my post above. If you got well into 6 figures to spend start a protien company. Minimums for alot of these places start at 10,000 lbs. Minimums for custom manufacturing a blend at a custom manufacturing place is 5000lbs (minimum). Go right ahead and put it on the credit card and be my guest
LOL, the old 'obfuscate with figures' tactic
Protein company? been there done that, and no, most of these companies have arbitrary minimums, not set in stone minmums, hell, I have obtained 100KGs upward from many companies, but either way, most all dairies will have agents that will gladly deal with anything from 20kg to 20,000kg, and many will also have blending/formulating facilities (or will refer you to one) and will include any such costs in any pricing requested, sorry, try again DC
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im going to do some research on you
Einstein researched, Stephen Hawking researches, you.. use fucking Google
now fuck off
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Einstein researched, Stephen Hawking researches, you.. use fucking Google
now fuck off
now im gonna use "google" inorder to ruin you just because im bored ;) i am very interested to know more about you and your business adventures.
you should start reading my posts one by one and see i am not one of those kids you play around with,,you will understand it after few posts
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im checkin now into protein factory business just to make sure i finish them once and for all if it is you.
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now im gonna use "google" inorder to ruin you just because im bored ;) i am very interested to know more about you and your business adventures.
you should start reading my posts one by one and see i am not one of those kids you play around with,,you will understand it after few posts
Jesus you fucking pissant fruit, here, just for you:
I was part of a company based in northern england in the late 90s, its rather successful now, I then moved to Essex and worked for a company headed by a smug jew wherein I was involved in product development
Today, I live in Devon, situated on the south coast of england, fully retired
If you need any further help, just ask
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Fully retired in FEDERAL POUND ME IN THE ASS PRISON you fucking poncy old slag!!
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=86762.0
How does it feel to have a trio of mincers insert a three foot Mulatto dildo into your hairy cornhole day in and day out?
>:(
leave it out, you minty old cunt
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Jesus you fucking pissant fruit, here, just for you:
I was part of a company based in northern england in the late 90s, its rather successful now, I then moved to Essex and worked for a company headed by a smug jew wherein I was involved in product development
Today, I live in Devon, situated on the south coast of england, fully retired
If you need any further help, just ask
this kid should be banned. if used proxy then I AM FUCKIN BRITISH DRAGON only because he is from england.
racist ugly fuck. i am now on your tail mark my words im gonna use GA and PHREEZER data. im gonna concentrate to track any profit you make on any product
you are marked with me,,you never leave the business you only change the products,, you use proxy and it wont help you because i will go for your core income.
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this kid should be banned. if used proxy then I AM FUCKIN BRITISH DRAGON only because he is from england.
racist ugly f**k. i am now on your tail mark my words im gonna use GA and PHREEZER data. im gonna concentrate to track any profit you make on any product
you are marked with me,,you never leave the business you only change the products,, you use proxy and it wont help you because i will go for your core income.
wtf ???
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this kid should be banned. if used proxy then I AM FUCKIN BRITISH DRAGON only because he is from england.
racist ugly f**k. i am now on your tail mark my words im gonna use GA and PHREEZER data. im gonna concentrate to track any profit you make on any product
you are marked with me,,you never leave the business you only change the products,, you use proxy and it wont help you because i will go for your core income.
FFS, first you turn up here fooling those easily sucked in dimwits with your bargain basement gear info, then, after being shown the door my my superior self, are now attempting to convince any and all (that might give a shit) that you are Mangum PI
Listen, just fuck off sonny, your days here are at an end, piss off and pull another fruit from the gimmick account tree, better still, piss off back to BB.com
You have got to be VP, you are such a nonce
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i think the racist kid think im dante or involve with tp. i dont give 2 cents about tp they can fall apart today what i do give 2 cents from now on is you you skinny racist redneck
you are marked start doing your own brewing because i will fuck you up with an order somehow
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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!1
What an odd adjective used to describe a cunt.
I'd like to meet the women you've been with.
:D
'minty' means 'a bit dodgy' ie: those cars you are selling cheap, are they a bit minty? (in thi sinstance, the term 'minty' means dodgy as in stolen)
:)
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i think the racist kid think im dante or involve with tp. i dont give 2 cents about tp they can fall apart today what i do give 2 cents from now on is you you skinny racist redneck
you are marked start doing your own brewing because i will f**k you up with an order somehow
When did they start putting dickhead pills in happy meals?
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Escilene...
Yes..That's it!! I guess Flex use too much at one of the Mr."O"' contest and nearly went into a coma...Crazy.
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bump
owning the clown "I am on your tail , I'm going to ruin you" gh15 .. and scumbag "I sell the absolute best" Dante, in a 'two for one hit' deal
LOL
fucking classic Duchaine !!!
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in kevin's case he done it all in 4-5 months which is very possible if you know your body,,know your stacks,,and know your training. the fact he took off from everything for few months every year only helped him and i recommend this approach very much,,especially if you are 30+,, because you will be amazed how much you grow after you been 6 months off and then jumping on again. you will be amazed. muscle memo and synthetic hormone combo is a wonderfull thing,,,WONDERFUL THING! ;)
last time levrone was off the hormones was back at age 15,,
you do not get it ,, i will explain ONCE AGAIN
we are collecting hormones lik ethe typical 11 year old circa 1984 was cloecting stamps or basball card,, we just change compounds and play with doses,, all of our bodybuild evolve around hormones,,we do not train with out them ,,we do not think we can advance with out them because we cant ,, we do not compete with out them ,,and we are just like normal individual WITH OUT them,,
there is no bodybuild who lay off hormones,,not for a a year not for 6 months and nto for a month ,,at timeeees there may be the fellas who lay off for few weeks but it usual because of other problem usualy money related or source related,,
gh15 approved
GH15 really changed his mind during the last 5 years
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GH15 really changed his mind during the last 5 years
depends on who logs into the account 8)
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same exact gh15,,your god of hormones,, i wrote both
it didnt change a bit,,i told you when i say off it mean diff products and maintanance doses,,there is no OFF OFF,,no one go off in bodybuild,,what he did was go off as in lower doses for few months then blasting into hormoneheaven in such doses you would have blakc cicrles around your eyes if you saw,,thats the only diff,,muscle memo is there but most importanto the doses of legit products are there too! muscle memo can and will kiss your ass with out legit legit legit products and in the right doses,, because you wont get no where in the high level with 150mg testosterona a week or 500 mg testosteroan a week or all this balonie i been hearing
gh15 approved
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a few things are different i think?
1. the dante guy that is not gh15 approved these days, is VERY much gh15 approved in this thread. his protein powders tested by gh15 and dante is in his good books here.
2. nandrolone decanoate was said in a gh15 post last week was NOT the choice of nandrolone becasue of too much water. here the prime choice is nandralone deca.
3. 2010-2011 mainly posts of shorter the ester the better. bodybuilders beg for the drugs that peak into the blood straight away. but here the prime choice is "longer the ester the better"?
there's always an explaination, but right now, fuck, lol im confused...
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in kevin's case he done it all in 4-5 months which is very possible if you know your body,,know your stacks,,and know your training. the fact he took off from everything for few months every year only helped him and i recommend this approach very much,,especially if you are 30+,, because you will be amazed how much you grow after you been 6 months off and then jumping on again. you will be amazed. muscle memo and synthetic hormone combo is a wonderfull thing,,,WONDERFUL THING! ;)
so inregarding this GH, in this post when you say u "recomend this approach", is this still a little trick u would recomend to us pupils? come off for 6 months then jump back on?
i know u said in this post in neevr meant "off" but rather "low dose"...so low dose for 6 months and then jump back on?
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a few things are different i think?
1. the dante guy that is not gh15 approved these days, is VERY much gh15 approved in this thread. his protein powders tested by gh15 and dante is in his good books here.
2. nandrolone decanoate was said in a gh15 post last week was NOT the choice of nandrolone becasue of too much water. here the prime choice is nandralone deca.
3. 2010-2011 mainly posts of shorter the ester the better. bodybuilders beg for the drugs that peak into the blood straight away. but here the prime choice is "longer the ester the better"?
there's always an explaination, but right now, fuck, lol im confused...
1. danta was lieing to my pupils for too long,,i was ok with his balonie protien and said its ok since its protien what can be wrogn with protien ,,but he in return alwasy lie lie lie ,,and say something which is not the truth ,,like the fact kukelo the kid didnt use hormone to win the teen nationals,,which is BELONIE TO THE 10TH DEGREE,,tro much worse lies
2. nandrolona decanoate is good hormone,,npp is better due to short ester and that it doesnt cause some of the sides nandrolonw longer easter will,,
3. when gh15 started writing for getbig,, it aimed at bodybuild in general,,just taking someone and making him bodybuild,,improve him no matter where he is at ,, just kick him up a notch with basic cycles ,, with time ti aimed more and more into the competetive advance bodybuild since to my discovery ....half of the fellas here are npc competitors and ifbb pros,,they dont come out with real names but many hrre are the real thing and i get many pms from them ,,the other half is also interested in advanced bodybuild and thus reomendation were alightly changed as in adjustment to specifics,, over all nandrolone is nandrolone... it is specifics the competitor and the none competitor that is into quality look are looking for that make me change some of my recomendations,,
gh15 approved
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so inregarding this GH, in this post when you say u "recomend this approach", is this still a little trick u would recomend to us pupils? come off for 6 months then jump back on?
i know u said in this post in neevr meant "off" but rather "low dose"...so low dose for 6 months and then jump back on?
nto for 6 but yes,,you can do it this way ,,not my cup of tea but its done,,i told you usualy multiple or devicde whatver they tell you by 3-4 ,,so 6 months in reailty is 2 months,,you can go 6 months but its too long,,name of the games is your weeks not months
gh15 approved
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im checkin now into protein factory business just to make sure i finish them once and for all if it is you.
;D
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1. danta was lieing to my pupils for too long,,i was ok with his balonie protien and said its ok since its protien what can be wrogn with protien ,,but he in return alwasy lie lie lie ,,and say something which is not the truth ,,like the fact kukelo the kid didnt use hormone to win the teen nationals,,which is BELONIE TO THE 10TH DEGREE,,tro much worse lies
2. nandrolona decanoate is good hormone,,npp is better due to short ester and that it doesnt cause some of the sides nandrolonw longer easter will,,
3. when gh15 started writing for getbig,, it aimed at bodybuild in general,,just taking someone and making him bodybuild,,improve him no matter where he is at ,, just kick him up a notch with basic cycles ,, with time ti aimed more and more into the competetive advance bodybuild since to my discovery ....half of the fellas here are npc competitors and ifbb pros,,they dont come out with real names but many hrre are the real thing and i get many pms from them ,,the other half is also interested in advanced bodybuild and thus reomendation were alightly changed as in adjustment to specifics,, over all nandrolone is nandrolone... it is specifics the competitor and the none competitor that is into quality look are looking for that make me change some of my recomendations,,
gh15 approved
The criticisms I see levied against the "changes" in your advice are usually just misinterpretations of what you write. Point 3 is salient and should be obvious to careful readers of the bible, sadly many readers are not quite so careful.
Gh15 is consistent, you have to be a true bible scholar to interpret some passages though. ;D