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PDI IN ESPN THE MAGAZINE
Pro Division Inc is proud to announce that PDI has an article in the August 14th issue of ESPN The Magazine. This is a very significant step forward for PDI since the inaugural PDI event, Night of Champions, is not until September 16th, at the Town Hall Theater in New York City.
“PDI is very ecstatic about having an article in one of the largest sports magazines in the United States. With a circulation in the millions, ESPN The Magazine has given Bodybuilding and PDI exposure that is limited to only the major sports in America. This is just the first step in bringing Bodybuilding to levels that were never remotely attained in the past. We at PDI have established our goals, set our plans and we are progressing forward at an accelerated pace. Our velocity will remain under control to insure success at every level” states
PDI’s CEO Wayne S. DeMilia.
Anyone wishing to purchase tickets for Night of Champions XXVII can do so in person at any Ticketmaster outlet in New York City, by calling Ticketmaster at 212-307-4100, through the web at www.ticketmaster.com/venue/24622, through the PDI office at prodivisioninc@yahoo.com or at 845-638-9290.
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PDI IN ESPN THE MAGAZINE
Pro Division Inc is proud to announce that PDI has an article in the August 14th issue of ESPN The Magazine. This is a very significant step forward for PDI since the inaugural PDI event, Night of Champions, is not until September 16th, at the Town Hall Theater in New York City.
“PDI is very ecstatic about having an article in one of the largest sports magazines in the United States. With a circulation in the millions, ESPN The Magazine has given Bodybuilding and PDI exposure that is limited to only the major sports in America. This is just the first step in bringing Bodybuilding to levels that were never remotely attained in the past. We at PDI have established our goals, set our plans and we are progressing forward at an accelerated pace. Our velocity will remain under control to insure success at every level” states
PDI’s CEO Wayne S. DeMilia.
Anyone wishing to purchase tickets for Night of Champions XXVII can do so in person at any Ticketmaster outlet in New York City, by calling Ticketmaster at 212-307-4100, through the web at www.ticketmaster.com/venue/24622, through the PDI office at prodivisioninc@yahoo.com or at 845-638-9290.
That's great!
Unfortunately, at this point, it's only going to be bad for bodybuilding. PDI only has a few guys, and none of the top BB's competing at their first show. So if it does draw any attention to the show, the general public will not see what "REAL" pro bodybuilding is.
I'm not saying that in the future PDI won't pull it off and have an incredible organization, but now it's too early to try to get national exposure in the general public when you have no athletes. IMO
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That's great!
Unfortunately, at this point, it's only going to be bad for bodybuilding. PDI only has a few guys, and none of the top BB's competing at their first show. So if it does draw any attention to the show, the general public will not see what "REAL" pro bodybuilding is.
Maybe that's a good thing :)
You won't see 3 big guts in the final top 3 (Coleman, Cutler, Gustavo).
People might not change the channel after seeing a PDI top 3. More mainstream appeal than the O final 3. Sure, some diehard fans want 350 pounds of swollen roidgut. But not most ESPN fans...
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good stuff, the PDI is on the move, i wonder what Lift and Chick have to say about this? they'll bad mouth it as usual.
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That's great!
Unfortunately, at this point, it's only going to be bad for bodybuilding. PDI only has a few guys, and none of the top BB's competing at their first show. So if it does draw any attention to the show, the general public will not see what "REAL" pro bodybuilding is.
I'm not saying that in the future PDI won't pull it off and have an incredible organization, but now it's too early to try to get national exposure in the general public when you have no athletes. IMO
Best seat in the house is $200. Not sure if that's a good price, but I know these Ticketmaster fees are BS....
Building Facility Charge of $1.00, Convenience Charge $6.25...
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That's great!
Unfortunately, at this point, it's only going to be bad for bodybuilding. PDI only has a few guys, and none of the top BB's competing at their first show. So if it does draw any attention to the show, the general public will not see what "REAL" pro bodybuilding is.
I'm not saying that in the future PDI won't pull it off and have an incredible organization, but now it's too early to try to get national exposure in the general public when you have no athletes. IMO
Actually it's the best time. Fans will be able to see the PDI grow from the beginning. ANd theNOC will have 25 competitors. If I remember right most show have about 25 to 30. So lack of competitors is a mute issue now. And of course people are going to say well the quality is horrible. Interesting since every competitors is a National winner or qualifier. YOu guys are so into just US competitors and the IFBB you forget that Europe and Russia all have great competitors and BB is quite big in Europe. ANdreas Frey could easily step on NPC stage and get his pro card. Without a doubt. YOu guys keep ragging on the PDI yet they are getting exposure the IFBB could never get. EVen with the embarrasement the IFBB has put on BB, the PDI can get the exposure and recognition for it athletes. If BB has ever a chance of becoming something more than just a bunch of big guys with muscle running around a stage in speedos and a joke to the general public, the PDI will do it. This is proof already. ESPN laughs at BB yet Wayne was able to get them in a major SPORTS magazine. Jeez, can't wait to hear from CHic, Issac and Kevin and see how they can try to make this announcement sound bad. It will be the perfect example of being desperate. Hurry called Manion and see what you should say.
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That's great!
Unfortunately, at this point, it's only going to be bad for bodybuilding. PDI only has a few guys, and none of the top BB's competing at their first show.
You gotta start somewhere though!
It will be good the fans will learn the new fans will learn the names of the bodybuilders faster and become more familar with pdi athletes.
Step in the right direction
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Jeez, can't wait to hear from CHic, Issac and Kevin and see how they can try to make this announcement sound bad. It will be the perfect example of being desperate. Hurry called Manion and see what you should say.
I think this is a positive move.
Any publicity that can help increase the poor ticket sales is good and will help ensure the athletes get paid.
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Maybe that's a good thing :)
You won't see 3 big guts in the final top 3 (Coleman, Cutler, Gustavo).
People might not change the channel after seeing a PDI top 3. More mainstream appeal than the O final 3. Sure, some diehard fans want 350 pounds of swollen roidgut. But not most ESPN fans...
I think portraying the current state of bodybuilding as all about roidgut, is a misrepresentation. Sure, there are some huge guys with distended stomachs. But they don't represent the majority.
I hope the PDI succeeds. I think it would be good for the sport to have options and more opportunities for the athletes. However, I think it will probably end up being an organization that is filled with people who weren't good enough to do well in the IFBB.
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I think this is a positive move.
Any publicity that can help increase the poor ticket sales is good and will help ensure the athletes get paid.
You just can't resist throwing in a little jab can you. ;D
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You just can't resist throwing in a little jab can you. ;D
Founded on fact. Call up the box office and ask for tickets. Keith has repeatedly said that the show is a sell out, but there are hundreds of tickets available.
Also, I called and asked what time the show started and was asked "What time can you get here?"
That would indicate to me that ticket sales are poor.
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This is it. This is the death of the IFBB.
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Founded on fact. Call up the box office and ask for tickets. Keith has repeatedly said that the show is a sell out, but there are hundreds of tickets available.
Also, I called and asked what time the show started and was asked "What time can you get here?"
That would indicate to me that ticket sales are poor.
You have waaaaay too much time on your hands. ::) ;D
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Actually it's the best time. Fans will be able to see the PDI grow from the beginning. ANd theNOC will have 25 competitors. If I remember right most show have about 25 to 30. So lack of competitors is a mute issue now. And of course people are going to say well the quality is horrible. Interesting since every competitors is a National winner or qualifier. YOu guys are so into just US competitors and the IFBB you forget that Europe and Russia all have great competitors and BB is quite big in Europe. ANdreas Frey could easily step on NPC stage and get his pro card. Without a doubt. YOu guys keep ragging on the PDI yet they are getting exposure the IFBB could never get. EVen with the embarrasement the IFBB has put on BB, the PDI can get the exposure and recognition for it athletes. If BB has ever a chance of becoming something more than just a bunch of big guys with muscle running around a stage in speedos and a joke to the general public, the PDI will do it. This is proof already. ESPN laughs at BB yet Wayne was able to get them in a major SPORTS magazine. Jeez, can't wait to hear from CHic, Issac and Kevin and see how they can try to make this announcement sound bad. It will be the perfect example of being desperate. Hurry called Manion and see what you should say.
I think what they're trying to do is great.
I just think trying to present it Joe Public is premature.
People are going to tune in to see if they like pro bodybuilding. But the PDI isn't an accurate depiction of Pro BB'ing. NONE of the top pro's from the sport will be there. So the public will be mislead into thinking their watching the "best" bodybuilders in the world, when that isn't true.
It's like publicising a pro basketball game and generating a lot of publicity. Joe Public buys tickets to watch the game, thinking they're going to be watching the Laker's or Heat, and they get all the fourth string guys from the bench.
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This is it. This is the death of the IFBB.
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good stuff, the PDI is on the move, i wonder what Lift and Chick have to say about this? they'll bad mouth it as usual.
Exactly.
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I think what they're trying to do is great.
I just think trying to present it Joe Public is premature.
People are going to tune in to see if they like pro bodybuilding. But the PDI isn't an accurate depiction of Pro BB'ing. NONE of the top pro's from the sport will be there. So the public will be mislead into thinking their watching the "best" bodybuilders in the world, when that isn't true.
It's like publicising a pro basketball game and generating a lot of publicity. Joe Public buys tickets to watch the game, thinking they're going to be watching the Laker's or Heat, and they get all the fourth string guys from the bench.
Yes, but the general public have no idea whether it's the 4th string or not. In fact, they most likey would rather watch a show where a Frank Zane or Bob Paris type physique wins than Ronnie or Jay.
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Yes, but the general public have no idea whether it's the 4th string or not. In fact, they most likey would rather watch a show where a Frank Zane or Bob Paris type physique wins than Ronnie or Jay.
When you're watching a basketball game, can you see a difference when the team is playing without the superstars??
What makes sports exciting to watch are SUPERSTARS not just "average" people. Try taking the starting quarterback, wide reciever, and running back out of a football game; or the star pitcher, home run and leading RBI hitters out of the baseball game; Kobe or Shaq out of the basketball game.
I could go watch a high school or college game and see the same thing.
This could truly have a negative effect on BB'ing.
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When you're watching a basketball game, can you see a difference when the team is playing without the superstars??
What makes sports exciting to watch are SUPERSTARS not just "average" people. Try taking the starting quarterback, wide reciever, and running back out of a football game; or the star pitcher, home run and leading RBI hitters out of the baseball game; Kobe or Shaq out of the basketball game.
I could go watch a high school or college game and see the same thing.
This could truly have a negative effect on BB'ing.
Although there is a saying that "any publicity is good publicity" it only really works if the audience is interested and as far as bodybuilding competitions are concerned, the general public have shown absolutely no interest whatsoever. No matter how you dress it up, it's always going to remain a niche sport with a niche audience. A 10 page spread in Sports Illustrated would probably not attract a reader to a show that was in his home town.
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Although there is a saying that "any publicity is good publicity" it only really works if the audience is interested and as far as bodybuilding competitions are concerned, the general public have shown absolutely no interest whatsoever. No matter how you dress it up, it's always going to remain a niche sport with a niche audience. A 10 page spread in Sports Illustrated would probably not attract a reader to a show that was in his home town.
hater in the house.
hey dude, it's growing the sport of bodybuilding. be happy. we'd all be happy if the IFBB was featured in ESPN the Mag. it's growth of the sport, good for all.
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hater in the house.
hey dude, it's growing the sport of bodybuilding. be happy. we'd all be happy if the IFBB was featured in ESPN the Mag. it's growth of the sport, good for all.
Not hate, realism.
If the IFBB were featured in any main stream magazine the result would be the same as far as ticket sales. The general public are not interested. Even the ones who train.
There was a huge banner in Times Square advertising the Mr Olympia. How many people do you think walked past that and thought "Gosh, that looks great I'll go"? I'd bet on none to one. How many who walked past it think about it today? I bet none.
Same thing is going to happen to the magazine article and I'd be saying the same thing whatever federation or show it was about.
See how many tickets you can get for the NOC at ticketmaster today and then check again a few days after the magazine is published. I bet there won't have been a rush on them.
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That's great!
Unfortunately, at this point, it's only going to be bad for bodybuilding. PDI only has a few guys, and none of the top BB's competing at their first show. So if it does draw any attention to the show, the general public will not see what "REAL" pro bodybuilding is.
I'm not saying that in the future PDI won't pull it off and have an incredible organization, but now it's too early to try to get national exposure in the general public when you have no athletes. IMO
Luckily they'll only see the nice tapered aesthetic physiques, and not the big gutted near 300 lb abusers of the IFBB.
They have competitors. They are just not "names" within bbing circles. But some of the guys I've seen look great. Especially those from Europe.
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That's great!
Unfortunately, at this point, it's only going to be bad for bodybuilding. PDI only has a few guys, and none of the top BB's competing at their first show. So if it does draw any attention to the show, the general public will not see what "REAL" pro bodybuilding is.
Sorry, "real" bodybuilding isn't 40" waistlines.
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Not hate, realism.
If the IFBB were featured in any main stream magazine the result would be the same as far as ticket sales. The general public are not interested. Even the ones who train.
There was huge banner in Times Square advertising the Mr Olympia. How many people do you think walked past that and thought "Gosh, that looks great I'll go"? I'd bet on none to one. How many who walked past it think about it today? I bet none.
Same thing is going to happen to the magazine artivel and I'd be saying the same thing whatever federation or show it was about.
See how many tickets you can get for the NOC at ticketmaster today and then check again a few days after the magazine is published. I bet there won't have been a rush on them.
Eh, ticket outlet stalking is not really my thing bro.
I believe being featured in the mag will have a few good effects. Internally, it will help legitimize the PDI in the eyes of some who are undecided. Externally, if it sells one more ticket, it was a good move. Long-term, it helps make BBing more accepted, more mainstream, and makes people more aware of it. They might not go this year, but seeing it might make them more open to going to a show next year or maybe picking up a FLEX or an MD at the store.
You know AIDA. Attention, interest, Desire, Action.
For the mainstream group, BBing is still at the attention stage- they have seen muscle guys on tv or movies, and never thought much other than 'steroids!'. Maybe seeing there is a show will generate a little interest. (Or acceptance, the prelim to interest).
Desire comes when they look at their potbelly and realize that hey, I may never dunk a ball, but I can have a 6-pack. Action might be buying a ticket, spending 5 minutes watching it on tv sometimes, etc.
baby steps. ESPN the mag might not make the show sell out. But if it causes a bit more acceptance, then it does contribute to the greater scheme of things. And that, my friend, is...
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I think portraying the current state of bodybuilding as all about roidgut, is a misrepresentation. Sure, there are some huge guys with distended stomachs. But they don't represent the majority.
I hope the PDI succeeds. I think it would be good for the sport to have options and more opportunities for the athletes. However, I think it will probably end up being an organization that is filled with people who weren't good enough to do well in the IFBB.
Yes, but its the two top guys, Ronnie and Jay who have the huge guts. The most visible guys are the worst offenders.
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WAIT TILL ESPN FINDS OUT THAT ALL OF THERE BODYBUILDERS TAKE STEROIDS DOOOOOOOOOOOH
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When you're watching a basketball game, can you see a difference when the team is playing without the superstars??
What makes sports exciting to watch are SUPERSTARS not just "average" people. Try taking the starting quarterback, wide reciever, and running back out of a football game; or the star pitcher, home run and leading RBI hitters out of the baseball game; Kobe or Shaq out of the basketball game.
I could go watch a high school or college game and see the same thing.
This could truly have a negative effect on BB'ing.
Please, don't compare actual athletic endevours with bodybuilding. How could it have a "negative effect" on bodybuilding? Competition is what improves every product known to man.
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Although there is a saying that "any publicity is good publicity" it only really works if the audience is interested and as far as bodybuilding competitions are concerned, the general public have shown absolutely no interest whatsoever. No matter how you dress it up, it's always going to remain a niche sport with a niche audience. A 10 page spread in Sports Illustrated would probably not attract a reader to a show that was in his home town.
So you just give up then? You don't even try to expand the sport? Thats a defeatist attitude. Don't you try and promote your business?
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If BB has ever a chance of becoming something more than just a bunch of big guys with muscle running around a stage in speedos and a joke to the general public, the PDI will do it.
Iv'e heard this a few times. PDI is gonna bring a fresh approach, shows will be entertaining blah blah blah. BBing IS oiled up men in thongs flexing their muscles. It is what it is, what will be so different about a PDI show?
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I predict if the PDI gains a little bit of traction you will see a slow but steady exodus from the IFBB.
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hater in the house.
hey dude, it's growing the sport of bodybuilding. be happy. we'd all be happy if the IFBB was featured in ESPN the Mag. it's growth of the sport, good for all.
I don't get these people who are hoping the PDI failure. It can only help the sport if it succeeds.
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For the mainstream group, BBing is still at the attention stage- they have seen muscle guys on tv or movies, and never thought much other than 'steroids!'. Maybe seeing there is a show will generate a little interest. (Or acceptance, the prelim to interest).
If you see the steroid issue as being the reason for the general public not moving from the attention stage, what is the PDI going to do at the NOC to change things?
I only hope it isn't anything like the 2004 NOC or the general public will forever consider us paedophiles!
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I don't get these people who are hoping the PDI failure. It can only help the sport if it succeeds.
As one of the people who has questioned the validity of the PDI it not because I hope that it fails but on it's past history of failure due to lack of support. That support is still missing apart from a few poeple here who probably won't even buy a ticket.
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That's great on the ESPN Magazine article. My only hope is that it is positive for bodybuilding and doesn't dwell on the steroid issue. If they avoid bringing that into the piece and make it a positive article, I applaud them.
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My problem with the PDI is mainly the talent pool, or lack of talent they currently have.
Sure, if all their guys were Sami's, it would be interesting.
But where are all the Vanders and Garreth Allins?
Instead there are blocky guys taking the stage.
No old skool physiques to be seen.
No Arnie's, no Zane's, no Mentzer's, No Corney's.
The idea was good though. Maybe DeMilia will cut those who doesn't look the part.
YIP
Zack
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PDI will be gone in a year. Nobody challenge Weider and gets out alive
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The Weiders don't own the planet, contrary to 40 years of propaganda from their magazines. Nor do they necessarily have the best BBs in the world. I saw NABBA pros on a Gallasch DVD recently & they're better posers, & some of them are as big, as the American IFBB pros. Also, I for one am tired of the same ten BBs shuffling around for the top ten places in the Olympia. A lot of the top NPC "uncrowned pros" have better builds, IMHO. Let the PDI get its shows onstage & give them support. The more competition, the better.
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Weider doesn't own the planet? Which planet are you on
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Sorry, "real" bodybuilding isn't 40" waistlines.
So you're saying that all or even most of the IFBB pros at the Olympia have 40" waists ???
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So you're saying that all or even most of the IFBB pros at the Olympia have 40" waists ???
Ronnie, Jay, Gunter, Markus all do.
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Please, don't compare actual athletic endevours with bodybuilding. How could it have a "negative effect" on bodybuilding? Competition is what improves every product known to man.
Little League baseball is competition. However, only parents with a kids on the team watch the games.
I don't have any family members on a pro basketball game, but I'll buy a ticket to watch it.
Take PPV Boxing for example, is anyone going to pay to watch two no name low level boxers? No, but they sure will pay to see two known heavyweights punch it out.
People pay to see the SUPERSTARS, not the second team.
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Ronnie, Jay, Gunter, Markus all do.
Okay, that's FOUR guys.
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Good for Body Building!
I wonder if the IFBB will run ads for the Olympia in ESPN Mag to show off the "Big Boys" and try to steal the PDI thunder.
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Best seat in the house is $200. Not sure if that's a good price, but I know these Ticketmaster fees are BS....
Building Facility Charge of $1.00, Convenience Charge $6.25...
Those prices are crazy, but I love being in the good seats.
Im trying to decide if I will do the whole day or just the night show...
And not having the top pros in the show isn't a bad thing. Most fans that attend the recent ifbb shows complain about how bad they are and the winners are a forgone conclusion.
Sandra
Sandra
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does any one know what the actual article was about and pertaining to ???
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Good for Body Building!
I wonder if the IFBB will run ads for the Olympia in ESPN Mag to show off the "Big Boys" and try to steal the PDI thunder.
PDI is obviously more aggressive and doing a better job promoting BB'ing to the mainstream. It's just unfortunate that right now, they really don't have anything to promote.
I think they should build a strong base of athletes, consistent successful shows and focus on building their foundation with "Core" bodybuilding fans first. Then once they have a solid organization, start advertising and promoting in mainstream pubs such as the ESPN mag.
It's basic business, focus on your core customers first!
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It's basic business, focus on your core customers first!
Their major problem apart from lack of credibility within the industry as seen by their lack of sponsors is that the core audience is used to a much higher level of overall competition.
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PDI is obviously more aggressive and doing a better job promoting BB'ing to the mainstream. It's just unfortunate that right now, they really don't have anything to promote.
I think they should build a strong base of athletes, consistent successful shows and focus on building their foundation with "Core" bodybuilding fans first. Then once they have a solid organization, start advertising and promoting in mainstream pubs such as the ESPN mag.
It's basic business, focus on your core customers first!
I disagree,
Basically outside of this article what has the PDI done to promote itself. There is no website, a yahoo email address, a few press releases (which some have been questionable at best). I don't think I have even seen a magazine ad. If it wasn't for 240 and Onlyme the PDI voice here would only be a whisper.
240 and Onlyme (and some guy named Priest ;) ) have done more promotion in the last week for PDI then Wayne has done altogether.
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Their major problem apart from lack of credibility within the industry as seen by their lack of sponsors is that the core audience is used to a much higher level of overall competition.
I agree with that. But most bodybuilding fans will buy a reasonably priced ticket to see ANY BB'ing show. They won't pay the premium price that they will to see the Olympia, but it's a start.
Over time, they will build a strong audience and slowly start to build up their sponsorships as well. Then they can increase the price of the tickets according to what they're worth.
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I disagree,
Basically outside of this article what has the PDI done to promote itself. There is no website, a yahoo email address, a few press releases (which some have been questionable at best). I don't think I have even seen a magazine ad. If it wasn't for 240 and Onlyme the PDI voice here would only be a whisper.
240 and Onlyme (and some guy named Priest ;) ) have done more promotion in the last week for PDI then Wayne has done altogether.
The fact that they even "contacted" ESPN mag. in their first year, shows that they're taking more initiative than the IFBB.
As long as the IFBB has been around and with the reputation of the Weider Pubs, they should have IFBB bodybuilding in all of the sports pubs.
It's as simple as a cross promotion within their respective magazines. For example, "Hey ESPN mag, if you run some stuff on IFBB BB'ing in your mag, we'll put some ESPN stuff in M&F and Flex.") Real simple.
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If the article is positive about bodybuilding it will only help the IFBB. The general public doesn't know the difference between the PDI and IFBB. Anyone who sees the article does a search on professional bodybuilding will find bodybuilding.com and getbig.com
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Okay, that's FOUR guys.
four of the TOP guys.
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When you're watching a basketball game, can you see a difference when the team is playing without the superstars??
What makes sports exciting to watch are SUPERSTARS not just "average" people. Try taking the starting quarterback, wide reciever, and running back out of a football game; or the star pitcher, home run and leading RBI hitters out of the baseball game; Kobe or Shaq out of the basketball game.
I could go watch a high school or college game and see the same thing.
This could truly have a negative effect on BB'ing.
Yep, you're right. When you are watching basketball, but bodybuilding?? Come on, the general public wouldn't know the difference, that's my point.
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If the article is positive about bodybuilding it will only help the IFBB. The general public doesn't know the difference between the PDI and IFBB. Anyone who sees the article does a search on professional bodybuilding will find bodybuilding.com and getbig.com
IF they did a search. They won't.
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So you're saying that all or even most of the IFBB pros at the Olympia have 40" waists ???
The highest profile guys do. Thats what really matters isn't it?
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IF they did a search. They won't.
LOL. Come on man, give a least a couple hundred of those "millions" of readers the benefit of the doubt.
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Yep, you're right. When you are watching basketball, but bodybuilding?? Come on, the general public wouldn't know the difference, that's my point.
That's my point. They won't know the difference! They'll think the sencond string guys are the best bb'ing has to offer and become disinterested. That's how this could negatively impact the sport.
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its not really an article-more of a little side blurb towards the front of the magazine.
says some nonsense about drug free bodybuilding and a change towards the sport in general.
nothing of substance and nothing worth noting- but i hope the pdi does well.
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The highest profile guys do. Thats what really matters isn't it?
Two of the top contenders for the Olympia title aren't even close to 40", Phil Heath & Dexter Jackson.
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That's my point. They won't know the difference! They'll think the sencond string guys are the best bb'ing has to offer and become disinterested. That's how this could negatively impact the sport.
Really? How are they going to know who the first string guys are to being with and why would they become disinterested when they do find out? The GP will not see much of a difference in the 10th place finisher in the Mr O and Ronnie.
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its not really an article-more of a little side blurb towards the front of the magazine.
says some nonsense about drug free bodybuilding and a change towards the sport in general.
nothing of substance and nothing worth noting- but i hope the pdi does well.
drug free in the pdi ??? ??? rhino ??? ???
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i can't remember the exact phrasing, but i know it made referenced to being drug free- but like I said it was just a small corner write-up near the front of the magazine..
but the ifbb claims to be drug free as well, and any mention at this time can't be a bad thing, its just not what I think a lot of you guys are thinking it is (a feature article, or even a half page write-up/its not)
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Eh, ticket outlet stalking is not really my thing bro.
I believe being featured in the mag will have a few good effects. Internally, it will help legitimize the PDI in the eyes of some who are undecided. Externally, if it sells one more ticket, it was a good move. Long-term, it helps make BBing more accepted, more mainstream, and makes people more aware of it. They might not go this year, but seeing it might make them more open to going to a show next year or maybe picking up a FLEX or an MD at the store.
You know AIDA. Attention, interest, Desire, Action.
For the mainstream group, BBing is still at the attention stage- they have seen muscle guys on tv or movies, and never thought much other than 'steroids!'. Maybe seeing there is a show will generate a little interest. (Or acceptance, the prelim to interest).
Desire comes when they look at their potbelly and realize that hey, I may never dunk a ball, but I can have a 6-pack. Action might be buying a ticket, spending 5 minutes watching it on tv sometimes, etc.
baby steps. ESPN the mag might not make the show sell out. But if it causes a bit more acceptance, then it does contribute to the greater scheme of things. And that, my friend, is...
Awesome post, 240!!! Attaboy! I've been away about a year or so, and you have evolved quite a bit within the boards, even doing some moves in the industry. I'm happy for you. Keep at it. I'm with you on this topic.
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Awesome post, 240!!! Attaboy! I've been away about a year or so, and you have evolved quite a bit within the boards, even doing some moves in the industry. I'm happy for you. Keep at it. I'm with you on this topic.
word to the mothership. we all grow up!
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The IFBB has failed miserably into trying to catch a more mainstream audience. Their last move in this direction was the association with AMI. To anyone that thinks the IFBB or the Olympia, for that matter, is in good hands with Pecker and company should think twice....or better yet, should read the Steve Weinberger interview with John Romano in one of the last issues of MD.
DeMillia is by no means a first-time sailor !!! He definetly knows his shit and his moves are always on solid ground. I fit wasn't that way, he would not have been the capitain of the IFBB pro division ship for so many years, since the late 70's.
He has proved time and time again his skills at promoting God knows how many Olympias and such...... Let's wait and see.
By the way, the last mainstream magazine that dedicated an exclusive instalment for bodybuilding, as far as i can remember, was Sports Illustrated in the late 90's, and they didn't say so many 'nice' things about the sport, if you know what i mean, something that deserved a well written and bold 'lemme- get- this- outta- my- chest' article by Jim Schmaltz. I have that issue at home.
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Incredible News!!! Fantastic to see the PDI taking SERIOUS steps to push bodybuilding into the main stream. Along with their athletes not having bigger guts than pregnant women, etc it will show the public a "more" attainable physique - not a circus.
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Bulking up: Training with Tucker
One-time bodybuilder finds lucrative career in bass fishing
CELEBRATION, Fla. — Mark Tucker competed for nearly 10 years as a bodybuilder, but has a quick answer as to why he abandoned that sport and instead became a professional bass angler.
"In bodybuilding, you're either going to be a model or an actor," he said. "I wasn't good-looking enough, so I felt that fishing was the way to go."
http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/bassmaster/elite/news/story?page=b_news_MTucker_bulkingup (http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/bassmaster/elite/news/story?page=b_news_MTucker_bulkingup)
Bodybuilder turns bass pro fisherman gets more mainstream coverage then a bodybuilding show or organization.
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Founded on fact. Call up the box office and ask for tickets. Keith has repeatedly said that the show is a sell out, but there are hundreds of tickets available.
Also, I called and asked what time the show started and was asked "What time can you get here?"
That would indicate to me that ticket sales are poor.
Please tell me where I said it was a sellout. I'd like to see that. I am pretty sure I said it will be a sellout. I don't think I ever said it was sold out already. But thanks for predicting the future.
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Two of the top contenders for the Olympia title aren't even close to 40", Phil Heath & Dexter Jackson.
dude phil heath is in no way a contender for anything but 10th place.
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I disagree,
Basically outside of this article what has the PDI done to promote itself. There is no website, a yahoo email address, a few press releases (which some have been questionable at best). I don't think I have even seen a magazine ad. If it wasn't for 240 and Onlyme the PDI voice here would only be a whisper.
240 and Onlyme (and some guy named Priest ;) ) have done more promotion in the last week for PDI then Wayne has done altogether.
And this alone is more than any IFBB show of the year. So something is going right.
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Please tell me where I said it was a sellout. I'd like to see that. I am pretty sure I said it will be a sellout. I don't think I ever said it was sold out already. But thanks for predicting the future.
You're right but allow me to remind you of your repeated predictions.
Plus, the tickets are selling faster than they ever have EVER. More places are selling the tickets than EVER. It will be a sellout no problem, even you know that much.
Maybe not know here but are huge in Europe and SOuth America. And there is allot of support from there coming to the shows. it will be a sellout and like I said anyone who knows the IFBB and its officials, please come on by and look through the crowd. then come one here and tell everyone you saw. Then I am sure most people will start talking up the PDI.
And the other PDI mouthpiece shares the same prediction.
Whatever happened this week, the mood is changing with everyone. EVERYONE wants tickets to the NOC. I'd put $ down that it'll be a sellout.
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The fact that they even "contacted" ESPN mag. in their first year, shows that they're taking more initiative than the IFBB.
As long as the IFBB has been around and with the reputation of the Weider Pubs, they should have IFBB bodybuilding in all of the sports pubs.
It's as simple as a cross promotion within their respective magazines. For example, "Hey ESPN mag, if you run some stuff on IFBB BB'ing in your mag, we'll put some ESPN stuff in M&F and Flex.") Real simple.
EXACTLY. The old mighty IFBB with 50+ years of Bodybuilding under its belt has done nothing to further BB into the mainstream so their members can get major sposnorship deals and more prize money. 50years and nothing. That is what you call shitty promotional power and creativity. No matter what the IFBB ballhuggers say the PDI is gettig their name out there and that is what birngs in sponsors. The IFBB has no clue how to do this or refuse to do this. They have hurt the marketability of their members. The IFBB #1 member COleman is an embarasment in the world of sponsorships. The IFBB should be ashamed of themselves for not at least getting COleman some major sposorships. Weider themselves should be sponsoring Coleman for a minimum million a year. In fact that should be one of theprize in the Olympia. A $1 million contract for the winner. No they don't that.
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You're right but allow me to remind you of your repeated predictions.
And the other PDI mouthpiece shares the same prediction.
Yes well they are predictions. And how can you or anyone say anything derogatory against them until the actual show has happened. Right now they are predictions and will be until the day after the show. Then they turn into facts or fictions. So lets see. Either way I can live with it.
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And how can you or anyone say anything derogatory against them until the actual show has happened.
You want to come at me with this when all you did for months was bash on the Colorado Pro? OK. ::)
Come on Keith you got something better then that.
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You want to come at me with this when all you did for months was bash on the Colorado Pro? OK. ::)
Come on Keith you got something better then that.
I don't think I was bashing the Colorado Pro show. I was bashing Sean. Big difference. Whatever I said about the show was in connection with Sean. Again big difference. Come on Issac you got something better than that.
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I don't think I was bashing the Colorado Pro show. I was bashing Sean. Big difference. Whatever I said about the show was in connection with Sean. Again big difference. Come on Issac you got something better than that.
You fall and hit your head?
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EXACTLY. The old mighty IFBB with 50+ years of Bodybuilding under its belt has done nothing to further BB into the mainstream so their members can get major sposnorship deals and more prize money. 50years and nothing. That is what you call shitty promotional power and creativity.
exactly... who ran that f'ed up ifbb? i want a name ;)
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Their major problem apart from lack of credibility within the industry as seen by their lack of sponsors is that the core audience is used to a much higher level of overall competition.
"And Mr. H will demonstrate 10 summersets he'll undertake on solid ground" (for the IFBB)Come off of it Kevin. Lack of credibility within the industry as seem by their lack of Sponsors? Exactly what lack of sponsors do you speak of. I put my glasses on and I saw several on their flyer. I also know that MuscleMag and MD will be there to cover the show. If you'd only get a set, and pull you head out of the IFBB's ass you'd be a good guy. You're a pretty damn good photographer. All you have to do is to start thinking for yourself instead of spouting the company line bullshit that they so obviously have you either brainwashed with, or recite to you on a daily basis in their "trash the PDI" strategy meetings.
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Just remember, the IFBB & FLEX magazine in particular wouldn't be trashing Wayne & the PDI if they weren't worried. ;)
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WOW- pdi finally getting some coverage-they have been in the closet for awhile- is palumbo joining the pdi?
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Please tell me where I said it was a sellout. I'd like to see that. I am pretty sure I said it will be a sellout. I don't think I ever said it was sold out already. But thanks for predicting the future.
Happy to oblige, this is from your post of August th 2006
"The 2004 NOC was a sellout and so is the 2006 NOC."
I have no doubt that you are being fed this information but a quick call to the theatre would tell you that there are hundreds avaialble.
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"And Mr. H will demonstrate 10 summersets he'll undertake on solid ground" (for the IFBB)Come off of it Kevin. Lack of credibility within the industry as seem by their lack of Sponsors? Exactly what lack of sponsors do you speak of. I put my glasses on and I saw several on their flyer. I also know that MuscleMag and MD will be there to cover the show. If you'd only get a set, and pull you head out of the IFBB's ass you'd be a good guy. You're a pretty damn good photographer. All you have to do is to start thinking for yourself instead of spouting the company line bullshit that they so obviously have you either brainwashed with, or recite to you on a daily basis in their "trash the PDI" strategy meetings.
Because I doubt the PDI you accuse me of having my head up the IFBB's arse, yet you don't say that of the PDI's most vociferous supporters who have business connections with them. Very unbiased of you.
Who are the main spnsors, the title sponsors etc,? They don't have them.
You're better informed than I am about the nagazine coverage but I spoke with several photographers while at the USA's and none of them was covering the show. Most magazines are cutting back on coverage.
Thinking for myself is the reason why I doubt the PDI. Unlike others who accept what Wayne says without question.
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All we are saying is GIVE PDI A CHANCE . . . 8)