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Title: First real diet of my life
Post by: 240 is Back on August 13, 2006, 07:38:27 PM
I'm starting the first real diet of my life.  I've cut carbs, but I've never seriously done a real diet.  I'm 5 10, 200 at 12 to 15% BF.

Meal 1 - brown rice, hard boiled eggs
Meal 2 - brown rice, steak, veggies
Meal 3 - whey shake

Meal 4 - brown rice, hard boiled eggs
Meal 5 - brown rice, steak, veggies
Meal 6 - chicken, lettuce, fatfree dressing

Meal 7 - whey shake

i'm about to start ECA also.  Multi, C,E,B, and creatine too.  Will be getting some fish oil this week too.  I have been taking nothing, vitamin/supp wise.
I used to just eat anything... I mean, chex cereal and M&Ms all day long.
The last 4 weeks I have cleaned it up bigtime.  I got sick once but am strong again.  Going to really clean it up this week for the next 4 weeks.  Considering the gi stuff now...

CARDIO FIRST THING IN AM ON EMPTY STOMACH - 30 minute fast walking right after I wake up.

thoughts?  What am I missing?  thanks!
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: alexxx on August 13, 2006, 07:39:15 PM
Are you on steroids now? :-\
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: 240 is Back on August 13, 2006, 07:39:34 PM
Are you on steroids now? :-\

ah, no.
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: McFarland on August 13, 2006, 07:55:38 PM
How many hard boiled eggs are you eating at a time?  How much rice at each meal?  Try maybe a cup of old-fashioned oats once per day in place of the rice...more variety.  Add chicken...it's protein quality is too high and it's too easy to prepare in bulk not to.  If I were you I'd just start my cardio at 20 minutes after each of your weight workouts in the week.  Don't throw in 2-a-days until about 1/2-3/4 of the way through the diet, and that's after you've worked up to between 40 and 45 minutes of post-weight training cardio one time a day.  When you add in a second morning session, you just go from say, 45 minutes a day to one 25 minute session in the morning and one 25 minute session in the evening.  The next week you'd move to 30 minutes in the morning and 20-25 minutes in the evening after your weights.  It has a tremendous effect on things that you don't want to use up in the very beginning.  You want to preserve as much of an ability as you can to keep things changing gradually throughout the diet.  Let's say you do 2 workouts a day from the very start of the diet.  Your body will quickly adapt to that up front, and you're not going to look much differently than you do now by doing it.  That means that you not only have to keep up going to the gym 2x a day through the whole diet, but it means that you can't start doing it 8 weeks into the diet for a remarkable step up in your conditioning as a result of the second sessions' being added.  Don't think in terms of calories in/calories out.  It really doesn't work that way.  Everything's relative.   

There's lots of stuff to talk about, but these are just a few of the most fundamental concerns I'd advise you consider first. 

 
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: alexxx on August 13, 2006, 07:57:13 PM
ah, no.

Then why all the carbs?
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: McFarland on August 13, 2006, 08:04:08 PM
Post your workout with sets and weights from today or yesterday or tomorrow, 240.  I'm not convinced that you do anything more than 6 sets of machine bicep work in any given workout anyway.  Which kinda makes everything I just posted a totally moot point.  

I mean, seriously.  Post what you do.  The names of the exercises, the weights used, the reps, and the sets.  We need to be convinced that you even break a sweat.  There's absolutely no evidence of that available anywhere up to this point.

First things first!
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: pobrecito on August 13, 2006, 08:06:50 PM
You need way more fat in your diet.
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: 240 is Back on August 13, 2006, 08:51:50 PM
Today was a rest day.

Typically-

M- chest, abs -
4 sets flat bench, 135 x 10, 185 x 5, 205 x 5, 215 x 3
4 sets incline DB press - 50 x 10, 70 x 8, 90 x 5, 90 x 5
then 2-3 sets of dips

T - back, calves -
Deads - 225 x 8, 315 x 5, 335 x 3, 345 x 4
hyperextension machine - 1 set of like 50 reps
chins - 40, split into maybe 6 sets
lat pulldowns - 4 sets of 10-12, 120, 150, 160, 180

T- shoulders, traps
f- arms
s - legs
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: 240 is Back on August 13, 2006, 08:52:45 PM
How many hard boiled eggs are you eating at a time?  How much rice at each meal?  Try maybe a cup of old-fashioned oats once per day in place of the rice...more variety.  Add chicken...it's protein quality is too high and it's too easy to prepare in bulk not to.  If I were you I'd just start my cardio at 20 minutes after each of your weight workouts in the week.  Don't throw in 2-a-days until about 1/2-3/4 of the way through the diet, and that's after you've worked up to between 40 and 45 minutes of post-weight training cardio one time a day.  When you add in a second morning session, you just go from say, 45 minutes a day to one 25 minute session in the morning and one 25 minute session in the evening.  The next week you'd move to 30 minutes in the morning and 20-25 minutes in the evening after your weights.  It has a tremendous effect on things that you don't want to use up in the very beginning.  You want to preserve as much of an ability as you can to keep things changing gradually throughout the diet.  Let's say you do 2 workouts a day from the very start of the diet.  Your body will quickly adapt to that up front, and you're not going to look much differently than you do now by doing it.  That means that you not only have to keep up going to the gym 2x a day through the whole diet, but it means that you can't start doing it 8 weeks into the diet for a remarkable step up in your conditioning as a result of the second sessions' being added.  Don't think in terms of calories in/calories out.  It really doesn't work that way.  Everything's relative.   

There's lots of stuff to talk about, but these are just a few of the most fundamental concerns I'd advise you consider first. 

 

very good stuff, thanks
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: Bast000 on August 13, 2006, 10:54:46 PM
I agree with Mcfarland about using oatmeal.

CARBS:

Get old fashioned oats at the grocery store, usually there are generic brands of this.

Just have 1/2 cup (measure with a measuring cup), add a little water and microwave for 30 seconds.  You don't want to cook it.   Then add a pinch of raisins or a strawberries or splenda to sweeten it.

Have that in the morning, and lunch time.  So 2 times a day.   So that's 60-70 carbs.    (1 cup oatmeal plus a little bit of fruit) 

Postworkout have  1 cup of Fiber One cereal with 1/4 -1/2 cup skim milk (or hood carb countdown milk (has less lactose, milk sugar if you can find it at your grocery store).  That is only 22 carbs ,  the other carbs are Fiber and don't have calories.  + 7 or so from the milk.


So that is 80-100 carbs total.    Besides these carbs have as much vegetables as you want.   If you can't handle doing this every day, have a day or two a week where you eat a banana or apple or another 1/2 cup of oatmeal.    So have 150-200g carbs every now and then if you need to.

Good to include some green veggies too.

Protein
Something like this would be good:

 2 chicken breasts,  8oz of lean steak or 93%+ lean ground beef a day, and also 3 hardboiled eggs Then just have 4 scoops of whey.  That's around 230g protein. 

Fat
(you get 18g from the eggs and maybe 12g from the meat), just add a small handful of almonds.

Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: Bast000 on August 13, 2006, 11:00:33 PM
These are great if you don't want to cook meat:  (have an entire packet at a time, 35g protein)

(http://www.creativemag.com/images2003%5CSTARKISTTUNA.jpg)

The milk I use: http://www.hphood.com/products/prodDetail.aspx?id=578
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: 240 is Back on August 13, 2006, 11:11:59 PM
I bought oatmeal and chicken for substitute, but I am very lazy.  Way easier to spend an hour tonight, hardboiling eggs, making 4 bags of rice, and 4 big steaks to ration out over the next few days. I know success begets success, so once i see an ab, I will likely get my shit a little straighter and add the oats.
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: 240 is Back on August 13, 2006, 11:13:06 PM
thanks for the advice.  I'm studying the heck out of this thread. I'm gonna keep track of foods, take pics, all that good stuff.  Hopefully I'll have a cheekbone or two for the camera when I meet dave palumbo next weekend.
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: benchthis on August 13, 2006, 11:45:18 PM
thanks for the advice.  I'm studying the heck out of this thread. I'm gonna keep track of foods, take pics, all that good stuff.  Hopefully I'll have a cheekbone or two for the camera when I meet dave palumbo next weekend.
  just ask him for advice
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: 240 is Back on August 14, 2006, 04:26:26 AM
7 am -  Inhaled a cup of rice and 1/2 c. of chicken I had left over. 
11 am - 1 c rice, 4 oz beef
2 pm - 1 c rice, 3 oz chicken
3:45 - 3/4 cup whey protein
6pm - large caesar sla with chicken breast, and a few tortilla chips with salsa (high GI, I know)


Chicken and beef are pretty interchangeable at this point for me, right? thanks!
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: gibberj2 on August 14, 2006, 05:14:44 AM
240 you gonna be in mr getbig? if you are it's kinda late with the diet isn't it?
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: Nordic Superman on August 14, 2006, 06:34:35 AM
Don't do cardio on an empty stomach fool. You'll be killing you metabolism.

Do some interval sprint training for 20 mins 1+ hours after your first meal.

You sure your body fat is around 12%? I'm skeptical...
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: corinth on August 14, 2006, 07:08:19 AM
240, you've only got 7 weeks so you're really trying to get a lot accomplished in a short period of time if you're currently at 12%. The first thing you absolutely have to do is start measuring your carbs. The one thing every dieting bodybuilder can tell you is exactly how many carbs they ate yesterday, how many they are going to eat today and how many they are going to eat tomorrow. When you  say a cup of rice 4 times a day I'm assuming you mean 1 cup precooked which is about 75 grams of carbs right there. Multiply that by 4 and you've got 300 grams of carbs. I can almost guarantee that you won't get ripped on that amount of carbs. You'll probably have to go as low as 100-150 grams of carbs to see serious results. You can try the diet you wrote down, but if you're not seeing results within a couple weeks be sure to drop the carbs to 1/2 cup rice (measured in a measuring cup) with your 4 meals.  You also might want to give oatmeal a try with at least one of your meals. It's always made me feel more full than rice and the variety is nice when you're eating basically the same things week after week. Also be prepared, if this is your first time cutting carbs, it's going to suck. Your energy level will suffer until you get used to it and you're going to miss eating all those delicious carbs. You'll savor every bite of what little rice and oatmeal you eat. Hell, you'll have dreams about carbs by the time your diet is over.
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: Bast000 on August 14, 2006, 11:33:59 AM
240, 1 cup  of rice is too much at a time.  Go to 1/2 cup.  and have that 3 times a day for your total carbs,  You have to go low carb if you want to see results quickly.
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: Jr. Yates on August 14, 2006, 11:38:06 AM
240, 1 cup  of rice is too much at a time.  Go to 1/2 cup.  and have that 3 times a day for your total carbs,  You have to go low carb if you want to see results quickly.
I agree. i was eating 1 cup 2 times a day and i bulked up nicely and after i cut my rice to half a cup, and eliminated one rice meal to a bake potatoe my body changed fast.
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: jaejonna on August 14, 2006, 12:51:29 PM
Weight Watchers Instant Oatmeal has 7 grams of protien per serving !!! mmmmm mmmm good
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: 240 is Back on August 14, 2006, 12:55:24 PM
See, I read thru some of you guys' diets, and I seriously consume 3500 calories a day right now.  I think cutting to 1500 immediately might kill me.  :)

Here is what I'm at so far today.
7 am -  Inhaled a cup of rice and 1/2 c. chicken
11 am - 1 c rice, 4 oz beef
2 pm - 1 c rice, 3 oz chicken
3:45 - 3/4 cup whey protein
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: corinth on August 14, 2006, 01:02:00 PM
See, I read thru some of you guys' diets, and I seriously consume 3500 calories a day right now.  I think cutting to 1500 immediately might kill me.  :)

Here is what I'm at so far today.
7 am -  Inhaled a cup of rice and 1/2 c. chicken
11 am - 1 c rice, 4 oz beef
2 pm - 1 c rice, 3 oz chicken
3:45 - 3/4 cup whey protein

240, what you need to do immediately is drop the carbs down and up the protein. Raising the protein will help you hold onto the muscle and dropping the carbs will help to get ripped. Instead of 1 cup of rice with 4 oz of beef, eat 1/2 cup of rice with 8oz beef. Instead of 1 cup of rice with 3oz chicken eat 1/2 cup of rice with 6 oz chicken. You're probably going to have to drop your carbs to 150 grams a day or less to get lean in 7 weeks.
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: Overload on August 14, 2006, 02:55:51 PM
Some very good information getting passed around in this thread...alot of people interested in dieting should copy and paste some of these posts.

i also prefer to ramp my cardio up slowly as jeff suggested..try not to burn yourself or your knees out.

 8)

Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: Hedgehog on August 14, 2006, 03:55:11 PM
Lets say he's on a hypo diet. And a deficit of cerca 500-600 cals each day...

If any of you experts could explain why he should be low in carbs, I'd be really interested.

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: 240 is Back on August 14, 2006, 04:57:32 PM
7 am -  Inhaled a cup of rice and 1/2 c. of chicken I had left over. 
11 am - 1 c rice, 4 oz beef
2 pm - 1 c rice, 3 oz chicken
3:45 - 3/4 cup whey protein
6pm - large caesar salad with chicken breast, and a few tortilla chips with salsa (high GI, I know)

I have a ton of energy.  Just got biblical with the bride and I felt like a man ten years younger.  I have seriously not had that much protein lately, and my carbs have mostly been high GI.  I'm planing on living on hard boiled egg white and whey w/ crystal lite, the rest of the night :)
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: Bast000 on August 14, 2006, 05:32:31 PM
Lets say he's on a hypo diet. And a deficit of cerca 500-600 cals each day...

If any of you experts could explain why he should be low in carbs, I'd be really interested.

YIP
Zack

Because he's posting pics in 6 weeks so if he's in a big deficit he'll lose fat faster.

240, at 3500 you will pretty much just stay the same.  :-\  At least go down to 2500 calories.
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: alexxx on August 14, 2006, 05:36:42 PM
Because he's posting pics in 6 weeks so if he's in a big deficit he'll lose fat faster.

240, at 3500 you will pretty much just stay the same.  :-\  At least go down to 2500 calories.

If that his diet colorie intake what was his bulking one?

Think about that 240 or sugar!
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: Hedgehog on August 14, 2006, 05:56:53 PM
Because he's posting pics in 6 weeks so if he's in a big deficit he'll lose fat faster.

240, at 3500 you will pretty much just stay the same.  :-\  At least go down to 2500 calories.


You're not making sense.

If he drops down to 2500 calories. Why should he be so low in carbs and relatively high in protein?

Brown rice is an excellent source of carbs IMO.

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: Bast000 on August 14, 2006, 06:01:39 PM

You're not making sense.

If he drops down to 2500 calories. Why should he be so low in carbs and relatively high in protein?

Brown rice is an excellent source of carbs IMO.

YIP
Zack

No I think he should go lower than that but I'm saying 2500 would be better than 3500.   Brown Rice is good, but oatmeal is easier to prepare.
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: Hedgehog on August 14, 2006, 06:04:25 PM
Let's say for arguments sake, he wants to get a shitload of protein in.

200 grams a day.

That's 800 calories.

1700 calories left.

Lets add 70 grams of fat. 630 calories.

1070 calories left.

Post workout shake - 120 grams. 480 calories.

Down to 590 calories, if I'm calculating right.

Roughly 150 grams of carbs from brown rice.


I don't think having such a high protein ratio would be optimal though. Around 170-180 grams would be plenty IMO.

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: Bast000 on August 14, 2006, 06:04:50 PM
This is what I suggested:

230g protein  920 calories

120g carbs  480

50g fat  450

1850 calories.

That shit would probably get him to lose 2 1/2 pounds a week.   And he'd be down to 185lbs in 6 weeks.
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: Hedgehog on August 14, 2006, 06:18:07 PM
This is what I suggested:

230g protein  920 calories

120g carbs  480

50g fat  450

1850 calories.

That shit would probably get him to lose 2 1/2 pounds a week.   And he'd be down to 185lbs in 6 weeks.

And why not 230 grams of carbs and 120 grams of protein?

Explain to me why he would need so much protein, and if you gonna give me some stuff on protecting muscle breakdown, explain how that would work and some references.

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: alexxx on August 14, 2006, 06:21:25 PM
felas let us not make drastic changes from his offseason diet so fast. I say fats should compremize 90% of his diet, carbs a close second at 9 % and protein a mere 1 which is more than enough. Good luck 240.
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: Bast000 on August 14, 2006, 06:24:00 PM
And why not 230 grams of carbs and 120 grams of protein?

YIP
Zack

The theory is that the body is able to burn carbs easier than protein, so with less carbs the body will be forced to use more fat as energy and more protein will go to maintaining muscle.
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: corinth on August 14, 2006, 06:43:07 PM
The reason for the low carbs is because as long as there are any carbs either circulating in the blood (glucose) or stored in the muscle (glycogen) the body will always use those for energy first before dipping into the fat reserves. By keeping carbs low hopefully your energy requirements will deplete your glycogen reserves and dip into your fat stores for fuel, thus losing body fat. You need to keep protein high, even higher than when bulking, because your body will use some protein for fuel in the absence of carbs. So you up your protein from the common 1 gram per pound of bodyweight to compensate for the possible loss of some to energy needs. I would agree with exactly the diet that Bast recommended and 240 should see some noticeable results in the 6 weeks he has.
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: 240 is Back on August 14, 2006, 08:01:46 PM
no no, i meant that I *was* at about 3500 a day.  I have no clue what I was today... I'm hungry as hell.  Snacking on hard-boiled egg whites and whey tonight.

I'm embarassed to admit it... but I would very often polish off 1/3 of one of these babies most nights.  Carbcrash City here.
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: corinth on August 14, 2006, 08:16:18 PM
no no, i meant that I *was* at about 3500 a day.  I have no clue what I was today... I'm hungry as hell.  Snacking on hard-boiled egg whites and whey tonight.

I'm embarassed to admit it... but I would very often polish off 1/3 of one of these babies most nights.  Carbcrash City here.

LOL> Don't be embarassed. It takes strength to stop at 1/3. Once I start eating something like that I usually don't stop until the whole thing is gone. But definitely stay away from the sweets on a contest diet.
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: cornebb on August 14, 2006, 08:28:52 PM
7 am -  Inhaled a cup of rice and 1/2 c. of chicken I had left over. 
11 am - 1 c rice, 4 oz beef
2 pm - 1 c rice, 3 oz chicken
3:45 - 3/4 cup whey protein
6pm - large caesar sla with chicken breast, and a few tortilla chips with salsa (high GI, I know)


Chicken and beef are pretty interchangeable at this point for me, right? thanks!



What does 1 cup brown rice mean?????? measured when cooked or precooked??????????
it helps to drink water when you are getting carb cravings!
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: JediKnight on August 14, 2006, 08:56:46 PM
keep up the good work 240,,,i started following your diet also even though i am not competing in the mr.getbig...you guys have really motivated me to stay in shape and follow a diet,,i am the leanest i have ever been since i was in highschool and i am 29. I know those cravings also for those sweets.
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: 240 is Back on August 14, 2006, 09:02:44 PM

What does 1 cup brown rice mean?????? measured when cooked or precooked??????????
it helps to drink water when you are getting carb cravings!


Yeah, I drink some water, a ton while at the gym, but at night I love crystal lite.

1 cup rice = cooked, but I usually don't finish all of it, as it is, well, plain boiled rice :)

My woman had a leftover turkey sandwich from Chilis' in the fridge for me... that beyotch looked GOOD.  But I passed and chose egg whites. 

I dunno if it's the carb dropoff or the sudden booost in protein, but I feel aggressive as hell tonight.  And no protein gas, which I worried about.  I think it may have been the Ultramet MRPs that caused that.  tossing down 3/4 cup whey a few times a day doesn't hurt much.
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: 240 is Back on August 14, 2006, 09:04:21 PM
LOL> Don't be embarassed. It takes strength to stop at 1/3. Once I start eating something like that I usually don't stop until the whole thing is gone. But definitely stay away from the sweets on a contest diet.

Duuuuuude.

They put in a bakery/entemanns  RIGHT NEXT DOOR to my gym.  I mean, what's a guy to do?  Fo the last few months, I'd forever be stopping in a few times a week.  I would justify it by saying I'd pick up something sweet for the pregnant bride.  but I'd also grab myself some cheese danish every time.  I love that stuff.
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: cornebb on August 14, 2006, 10:45:40 PM
Yeah, I drink some water, a ton while at the gym, but at night I love crystal lite.

1 cup rice = cooked, but I usually don't finish all of it, as it is, well, plain boiled rice :)

My woman had a leftover turkey sandwich from Chilis' in the fridge for me... that beyotch looked GOOD.  But I passed and chose egg whites. 

I dunno if it's the carb dropoff or the sudden booost in protein, but I feel aggressive as hell tonight.  And no protein gas, which I worried about.  I think it may have been the Ultramet MRPs that caused that.  tossing down 3/4 cup whey a few times a day doesn't hurt much.

Yeah when u drop carbs u tend to geta bit aggresive, im going with aprox 20-40g carbs a day, but its sweet i dont get any cravings anymore,
but yeah i guess if its your first time dieting it is a bit harder, you will get used to it, just dont think as much about it!
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: nzmusclemonster on August 14, 2006, 11:48:43 PM
If you drop carbs too dramatically your body will do the opposite to what you want it to do.
Your metabolism will go in reverse and totally slow down, as the body isnt getting nearly as much carbs as what it used to so it will go in shock mode in order to retain what ever it can.

A gradual decline of carbs is needed. No crash dieting!

Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: cornebb on August 15, 2006, 02:56:24 AM
If you drop carbs too dramatically your body will do the opposite to what you want it to do.
Your metabolism will go in reverse and totally slow down, as the body isnt getting nearly as much carbs as what it used to so it will go in shock mode in order to retain what ever it can.

A gradual decline of carbs is needed. No crash dieting!


yeah thats true,
But it seems to work for me, my fat is falling of and my weight (on the scale) stays the same. my weight hasnt changed in 3 weeks and  my bodyfat % has dropped from 11.75  to  just under 9%
oh yeah and i never feel like crap, always feel strong and have heaps of energy at gym
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: corinth on August 15, 2006, 06:29:43 AM
Duuuuuude.

They put in a bakery/entemanns  RIGHT NEXT DOOR to my gym.  I mean, what's a guy to do?  Fo the last few months, I'd forever be stopping in a few times a week.  I would justify it by saying I'd pick up something sweet for the pregnant bride.  but I'd also grab myself some cheese danish every time.  I love that stuff.

That is so funny. I used to work out at a Gold's Gym that was in a strip mall, and just like you, there was a bakery RIGHT NEXT DOOR. This was a little mom and pop type place where everything was homemade. They made the best fresh doughnuts I've ever eaten in my life and they were huge and made fresh every morning. I worked out in the mornings then so every morning when I left the gym you could smell the fresh doughnuts. And that's about the best smell in the entire world. Who could resist that right? Needless to say, everyone there soon knew me on a first name basis..lol
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: 240 is Back on August 15, 2006, 07:28:57 AM
yeah, i shoot the breeze with the owners.  been trying to convince them to put in a smoothee machine :)

Today I woke up very very hungry.  love handles feel tighter today.  Boiled brown rice has never tasted so good.
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: corinth on August 15, 2006, 08:22:32 AM
Savor every single bite of carbs you get because after a few weeks of going low carb you'll start having dreams about pigging out on carbs. The things we go through just to see our abs.
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: cornebb on August 15, 2006, 03:08:36 PM
Savor every single bite of carbs you get because after a few weeks of going low carb you'll start having dreams about pigging out on carbs. The things we go through just to see our abs.

hahahahhaha yeah thats soo true. and you will start saving food up or make a list that you want to eat after the dieting, the list doesnt end
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: 240 is Back on August 15, 2006, 05:40:11 PM
Yea, it's the end of day 2, and my face looks way different already.  cheeks are tighter, waist is tighter, and i am sleepy.
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: 240 is Back on August 16, 2006, 12:21:33 AM
I've seriously been missing out on something... two days into the diet and my arms are taking new shape.  I know it sounds crazy... but I don't have dat bloat that I seemed to have had for the last 10 years or so.

I did have a few tortilla chips yesterday, and today I had a roll with my chicken salad dinner.  (grilled chicken salad dinner with the wife is like a cheat meal, and it keeps me honest all day with diet. used it both days now) 

But other than that, it's been boiled brown rice, boiled steak, hardboiled egg whites, and whey.  That is it.
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: Bast000 on August 16, 2006, 12:35:09 AM
why not grill the steak?  Also what is wrong with grilled chicken salad?  (unless you are not using a low calorie dressing/seasoning).
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: cornebb on August 16, 2006, 12:37:11 AM
I've seriously been missing out on something... two days into the diet and my arms are taking new shape.  I know it sounds crazy... but I don't have dat bloat that I seemed to have had for the last 10 years or so.

I did have a few tortilla chips yesterday, and today I had a roll with my chicken salad dinner.  (grilled chicken salad dinner with the wife is like a cheat meal, and it keeps me honest all day with diet. used it both days now) 

But other than that, it's been boiled brown rice, boiled steak, hardboiled egg whites, and whey.  That is it.


when you drop carbs you will loose water under your skin in the first week or two! That could have been the "bloat" the last 10 years.
but yeah other than that your doing good man.
Good luck
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: 240 is Back on August 16, 2006, 04:31:04 PM
down to 196... dropped 5 pounds in 3 days!
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: Bast000 on August 16, 2006, 04:34:08 PM
down to 196... dropped 5 pounds in 3 days!

Nice, of course some is water but shoot for 1-2lbs loss a week.  If you're not losing at least a pound lower calories a bit. 
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: 240 is Back on August 16, 2006, 07:56:46 PM
i would rather eat a cheese danish right now than nail her:
(http://pix.nofrag.com/51/d9/92dd36f2c84daa1dcfa8b5ee742c.gif)

Is that normal?
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: 240 is Back on August 16, 2006, 09:09:37 PM
also, on day 3 of a diet, do you guys typically have these rediculous ideas of "Maybe I should do a bulk cycle instead!"

?
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: figgs on August 16, 2006, 11:53:02 PM
Just like I mentioned in your other thread! That's a boring menu! Here's what mine might look like. And keep in mind this kind of diet completely satisfies me.

Meal #1- Egg Burrito
3 jumbo eggs (w/ nosalt, pepper and rosemary)
American cheese
Salsa
Whole wheat tortilla
Slice of whole wheat bread w/ topping

Meal #2-
Smart Start (or other whole grain, wheat or oat cereal)
1% milk
Cottage cheese w/ pineapple, raisins and acut up apple

Meal#3-Brown Rice w/ Hazelnuts and Chicken Cutlets
Brown Rice
chicken stock
butter or margarine
Toasted hazelnuts
Chicken breast w/breadcumbs and all
Orange

Meal#4-Pre-workout meal
Oatmeal (the only thing in my diet I hate) w/ splenda brown sugar or honey
Tuna salad w/ lowfat mayo
Raisins

Meal #5-Grits and Protein Pudding
Grits w/ American cheese and/or margarine
2 scoops vanilla ice cream whey
6 tbsp milk
1-2 tsp splenda brown sugar

Meal #6-right before bed
2 cups 1% milk or
cheddar cheese or
String cheese

At this hour, I'm looking foward to waking up to an egg burrito. As Arnold said about the bodybuilding lifestyle, "Live it, love it".
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: Hedgehog on August 17, 2006, 11:03:42 PM
So...










How was your first cheat meal?

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: 240 is Back on August 18, 2006, 08:27:57 AM
Flu.

Dammit.
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: gibberj2 on August 18, 2006, 08:51:43 AM
sick again?
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: Princess L on August 18, 2006, 11:20:42 AM
Flu.

Dammit.

You need to work on your immune system - thru nutrition and supplementation - ie; at LEAST a multi vitamin.
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: Princess L on August 18, 2006, 11:25:27 AM
  Boiled brown rice has never tasted so good.

Change of pace - put the rice in the pot without the water.  Heat it up and "toast" the rice (stir stir stir - keep it moving).  Then add the water (very slowly).  Careful adding cold water to the hot pan - it will boil over quickly.  Then cook as normal.  Taste and texture is slightly changed - kinda "nutty".
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: Princess L on August 18, 2006, 11:27:52 AM
Just like I mentioned in your other thread! That's a boring menu! Here's what mine might look like. And keep in mind this kind of diet completely satisfies me.

Meal #1- Egg Burrito
3 jumbo eggs (w/ nosalt, pepper and rosemary)
American cheese
Salsa
Whole wheat tortilla
Slice of whole wheat bread w/ topping

Meal #2-
Smart Start (or other whole grain, wheat or oat cereal)
1% milk
Cottage cheese w/ pineapple, raisins and acut up apple

Meal#3-Brown Rice w/ Hazelnuts and Chicken Cutlets
Brown Rice
chicken stock
butter or margarine
Toasted hazelnuts
Chicken breast w/breadcumbs and all
Orange

Meal#4-Pre-workout meal
Oatmeal (the only thing in my diet I hate) w/ splenda brown sugar or honey
Tuna salad w/ lowfat mayo
Raisins

Meal #5-Grits and Protein Pudding
Grits w/ American cheese and/or margarine
2 scoops vanilla ice cream whey
6 tbsp milk
1-2 tsp splenda brown sugar

Meal #6-right before bed
2 cups 1% milk or
cheddar cheese or
String cheese

At this hour, I'm looking foward to waking up to an egg burrito. As Arnold said about the bodybuilding lifestyle, "Live it, love it".

That's all great and wonderful, but 240 has already admitted he's lazy in the kitchen and as simple as  your diet is, it's still work.
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: sinbad on August 18, 2006, 12:40:15 PM
i would rather eat a cheese danish right now than nail her:
(http://pix.nofrag.com/51/d9/92dd36f2c84daa1dcfa8b5ee742c.gif)

Is that normal?


I know it is a bit of a mind game. I am not dieting as strict as you, but I have cut out all the junk food for about 2 weeks. It has also caused me to loss weight and also some strength. I just use it as a personal challange, and it has gotten easier the longer I go.
Title: Re: First real diet of my life
Post by: 240 is Back on August 18, 2006, 11:07:09 PM
been sleeping, working, etc.  damn, i don't ever get sick until i limit calories, then it's day 3 every time :(