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Title: Is bin Laden already dead?
Post by: 240 is Back on August 23, 2006, 11:50:25 PM
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osama_dead.html

Title: Re: Is bin Laden already dead?
Post by: headhuntersix on August 24, 2006, 12:14:17 AM
Some of the evidence..such as the CIA closing down that unit points more to the fact that he is dead. I'm here..there is no feeling either way about him being dead or alive. He's never mentioned here very much. The fact that he looks like hell...... everybody here looks like hell.....Our own Intel during the Tora bora operation said he got away.. I'm not sure myself.
Title: Re: Is bin Laden already dead?
Post by: Nordic Superman on August 24, 2006, 01:02:03 AM
Some shit quality footage and an animated gif... I'M SOLD ::)

Is there a conspiracy you don't believe 240?

How about this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion
Title: Re: Is bin Laden already dead?
Post by: Faust on August 24, 2006, 07:29:24 AM
Lol.
I'm starting to wonder if these conspiracies are a joke misunderstood by some people...

Whats next?

Is Osama bin Laden actually George Bush?
Title: Re: Is bin Laden already dead?
Post by: Nordic Superman on August 24, 2006, 07:32:10 AM
Lol.
I'm starting to wonder if these conspiracies are a joke misunderstood by some people...

Whats next?

Is Osama bin Laden actually George Bush?

Well i'll go one crazier.

Theres a lunatic who believes G. Bush and Queen Elizabeth are reptilian humanoids who control the earth... see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_alleged_conspiracy_theories

I bet 240 thinks there's some truth to it.
Title: Re: Is bin Laden already dead?
Post by: OzmO on August 24, 2006, 08:26:56 AM
this right here, Bin Laden Being dead, even though it's far out and i don't believe it, to me is a more plausible conspiracy thoery than 9/11 having remore controlled military planes, and the WTC's rigged with bombs and massive cover up invovling 1500 poeple who have all kept their mouths shut for 5 years.
Title: Re: Is bin Laden already dead?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on August 24, 2006, 09:39:10 AM
It's a conspiracy I tell ya :D!!
Title: Re: Is bin Laden already dead?
Post by: Hedgehog on August 24, 2006, 09:54:07 AM
Bin Laden already being dead?

I think it's a possibility. I don't see anyone claiming that they know he still is alive though?

We just don't know. He may be, but then again he may as well be dead after the bombings.

What matter is, how for some reason the War on Terror turned into an intervention in Iraq.

Very strange.

No connection has been made between Saddam Hussein and Bin Laden - so why would USA spend some of its energy on Iraq? Instead on having focus at the terrorists?

We will probably find out someday, when a commission will review the actions of the Administration.

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: Is bin Laden already dead?
Post by: 240 is Back on August 24, 2006, 10:01:12 AM
Bin Laden already being dead?

I think it's a possibility. I don't see anyone claiming that they know he still is alive though?

We just don't know. He may be, but then again he may as well be dead after the bombings.

What matter is, how for some reason the War on Terror turned into an intervention in Iraq.

Very strange.

No connection has been made between Saddam Hussein and Bin Laden - so why would USA spend some of its energy on Iraq? Instead on having focus at the terrorists?

We will probably find out someday, when a commission will review the actions of the Administration.

YIP
Zack

He has released several tapes which have been verified as authentic by our CIA.  Despite this, some bin Laden historians, who have written books about him and spent a lot of time studying him, believe that all tapes made since late 2001 have not been him.  The inflection, the style, and the religious rhetoric has changed.  In thee video in late 2001, his left side was bad (last term kidney disease), he required clean water and dialysis every 3 days.  hard to get in caves and on the run.  Reports came out that he died, but our media didn't cover it, as that would eliminate the boogeyman we were using to justify the war.   As that link shows, he looked very very bad, leaning on a wall, looking like a shell of how he had looked earlier in the year.   If I had to put money on it, I'd say the probability is that he isn't still living on the run- he's either in a safe, protected hospital somewhere, or he did die, as was oriiginally reported.

Title: Re: Is bin Laden already dead?
Post by: JasonH on August 24, 2006, 03:35:19 PM
Bin Laden already being dead?

I think it's a possibility. I don't see anyone claiming that they know he still is alive though?

We just don't know. He may be, but then again he may as well be dead after the bombings.

What matter is, how for some reason the War on Terror turned into an intervention in Iraq.
Very strange.

No connection has been made between Saddam Hussein and Bin Laden - so why would USA spend some of its energy on Iraq? Instead on having focus at the terrorists?

We will probably find out someday, when a commission will review the actions of the Administration.

YIP
Zack
Oil, my friend. Not to mention Gerge Dubya wanted to finish off Daddy's little war.
Title: Re: Is bin Laden already dead?
Post by: marinesgt on August 24, 2006, 03:48:33 PM
i think the man is alive and kickin..though the theory that he is in a hospital somewhere does sound like something that would work...the man has half the world of islam on his side so safe to say he probably is stayin somewheres safe with his 15 to 20 bodyguards close by in case of an emergency evacuation...if we find that bit(h though we need to drag him through the streets by his nutsack or even better yet by his dialysis machine... ;D
Title: Re: Is bin Laden already dead?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 24, 2006, 04:27:09 PM
Some shit quality footage and an animated gif... I'M SOLD ::)

Is there a conspiracy you don't believe 240?

How about this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion
Don't be an ass ::)
Title: Re: Is bin Laden already dead?
Post by: Playboy on August 25, 2006, 05:20:05 AM
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osama_dead.html


Until you find a body it is presumed that he is alive. And if thats the case, find him and hang him by his testicles in front of the world to see as an example of what happens to extremist terror idiots.

PB
Title: Re: Is bin Laden already dead?
Post by: Hedgehog on August 25, 2006, 05:25:11 AM
i think the man is alive and kickin..though the theory that he is in a hospital somewhere does sound like something that would work...the man has half the world of islam on his side so safe to say he probably is stayin somewheres safe with his 15 to 20 bodyguards close by in case of an emergency evacuation...if we find that bit(h though we need to drag him through the streets by his nutsack or even better yet by his dialysis machine... ;D


I doubt that half the Islamic world is siding with Osama bin-Laden.

At least they are not siding with his "political" ( and I use that term loosely, as bin-Laden is a nutcase) views.

Quite a few Muslims have a genuine distrust towards USA. But that doesn't mean they would support Osama bin-Laden.

bin-Laden is considered by many Muslims as a genuine threat to the Muslim world.

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: Is bin Laden already dead?
Post by: Nordic Superman on August 25, 2006, 05:59:35 AM

I doubt that half the Islamic world is siding with Osama bin-Laden.

At least they are not siding with his "political" ( and I use that term loosely, as bin-Laden is a nutcase) views.

Quite a few Muslims have a genuine distrust towards USA. But that doesn't mean they would support Osama bin-Laden.

bin-Laden is considered by many Muslims as a genuine threat to the Muslim world.

YIP
Zack

Oh FFS Hedgehog wake the fuck up...

After 911 people were dancing in the streets...               IN FUCKING BRITAIN (Not to mention people from the islamic states in the middle east)

After the July tube bombings we got british born muslim scum saying it's justified.

Like I said brother, you're not going to wake up to this until you're peeling the scalp of the person sitting next to you on the train after a fucking islamist attack.
Title: Re: Is bin Laden already dead?
Post by: 240 is Back on August 25, 2006, 08:27:12 AM
After the July tube bombings we got british born muslim scum saying it's justified.

Like I said brother, you're not going to wake up to this until you're peeling the scalp of the person sitting next to you on the train after a fucking islamist attack.

I hate to tell you this man, but there were a lot of fishy things about your 7/7 bombings that you never heard about, I'm sure.  Are you interested in knowing more, or would you rather not know?
Title: Re: Is bin Laden already dead?
Post by: a_joker10 on August 25, 2006, 08:34:47 AM
I am sure the spanish bombing the day before an election was fishy too.
Title: Re: Is bin Laden already dead?
Post by: 240 is Back on August 25, 2006, 08:41:51 AM
I am sure the spanish bombing the day before an election was fishy too.

I cannot tell if you're being real or sarcastic here.
Title: Re: Is bin Laden already dead?
Post by: Nordic Superman on August 25, 2006, 10:26:00 AM
Open another thread about a 7/7 consparacie if you'd like. But I bet it will follow the usual template:

"the man" is trying to keep you down... blah blah blah...
Title: Re: Is bin Laden already dead?
Post by: 240 is Back on August 25, 2006, 02:07:58 PM
Open another thread about a 7/7 consparacie if you'd like. But I bet it will follow the usual template:
"the man" is trying to keep you down... blah blah blah...

Nah, the evidence is out there if you choose to research it. 

And I don't have a problem with 'the man' when he doesn't execute 3000 of his own people on a Tuesday morning to further some goals.  If 'the man' was straight with us, and worked to secure the Constitution he was elected to uphold, then I'd adore 'the man' :)
Title: Re: Is bin Laden already dead?
Post by: headhuntersix on August 26, 2006, 12:14:36 AM
Oh FFS Hedgehog wake the f**k up...

After 911 people were dancing in the streets...               IN FUCKING BRITAIN (Not to mention people from the islamic states in the middle east)

After the July tube bombings we got british born muslim scum saying it's justified.

Like I said brother, you're not going to wake up to this until you're peeling the scalp of the person sitting next to you on the train after a fucking islamist attack.


Dude....these bastards rammed 2 planes into my financial center, 1 into my military center and another into a field in PA. Has anybody woken up. You guys have a real problem over there. I have seen interviews with some of the Brit rags..they're nuts. It only a matter of time till ours start doing the same crap.
Title: Re: Is bin Laden already dead?
Post by: 240 is Back on August 26, 2006, 12:22:40 AM

Dude....these bastards rammed 2 planes into my financial center, 1 into my military center and another into a field in PA. Has anybody woken up. You guys have a real problem over there. I have seen interviews with some of the Brit rags..they're nuts. It only a matter of time till ours start doing the same crap.

You curious who trained and funded those bastards?

You curious about who scheduled multiple wargames that AM so those bastards could slip through radar?

You curious about who told the interceptor planes to fly at 500 mph instead of 2000 mph so that they would arrive too late to shoot those bastards down?

You curious how those bastards made incredible military-vehicle precision airplane manuevers when they could barely fly a cessna?

You curious why the Taliban offered to hand over Bin laden to the US, as soon as the US showed proof that those bastards were indeed connected?

You curious as to why Bush didn't want to investigate those bastards for 18 months following 911?

You curious why some of those bastards never bought a ticket on 911, or showed up on any passenger lists?

You curious as to why the FBI has never charged bin laden, and why the CIA and FBI bin Laden task forces have been disbanded?

Yes, there were bastards on 911 who hijacked planes.  But those bastards had some help.
Title: Re: Is bin Laden already dead?
Post by: headhuntersix on August 26, 2006, 12:43:28 AM
I ment to post "240 and his theories not withstanding" :P

I doubt the conspiracy not so much because of the possible political gains but because generally people are idiots and can't pull a conspiracy of this immnese magnitude without talking..slipping up etc..atleast not in this day and age.
Title: Re: Is bin Laden already dead?
Post by: 240 is Back on August 26, 2006, 12:49:34 AM
generally people are idiots and can't pull a conspiracy of this immnese magnitude without talking..slipping up etc..atleast not in this day and age.

I used to think this way.  But if you think about it, they are able to get into power, then effectively manage a country of 300 Million people. 

They have unlimited money, control of the media, badges which get them into anywhere, the sickest technology on the planet, and they can hire those nice little teams from overseas which can coordinate anything.  And in this case, they had the lease to the buildings, they put their own security team in, a month before.  They managed the air defenses that were eluded.  And, they did their own investigation upon themslves!

So even if they did fuck up along the way, and there were some flubs, they are able to put out enough disinformation to make it so messy that most cannot see through it all.  And there are dozens of people in govt, whether is be former bush cabinet people, former military people, etc, who spent their life doing this stuff, who outright believe it's a self-attack. 

So they may get away free, but all will know.  36% of American believes it now.  Another two years, with the movie release this year, it'll be 60%.
Title: Re: Is bin Laden already dead?
Post by: headhuntersix on August 26, 2006, 01:04:34 AM
Look how long it took you to dig all this stuff up..not very long..tons of it out there on the net. i don't believe it but from my point of view..how much more would be out there if it was. As far as your concerned I am the government...the folks i work with are no different or smarter then u and I could not possibly trust them to pull something like this off..just my take. Things would have to drastically change to make me question the entire 911 experience. Yes some crap is weird but not in total(yet)..but i enjoy the threads....
Title: Re: Is bin Laden already dead?
Post by: 240 is Back on August 26, 2006, 01:21:50 AM
Look how long it took you to dig all this stuff up..not very long..tons of it out there on the net. i don't believe it but from my point of view..how much more would be out there if it was. As far as your concerned I am the government...the folks i work with are no different or smarter then u and I could not possibly trust them to pull something like this off..just my take. Things would have to drastically change to make me question the entire 911 experience. Yes some crap is weird but not in total(yet)..but i enjoy the threads....

No, you're not the govt.   You're an American like any of us.  You love your country, and you are doing what you can to have a good life and make the country a better place.

And the *whole* govt isn't to blame for 911 either.  It appears to be a small group who put the wheels in motion, brought in a team to do the grunt work, who first fought, then made sure that the Commission hearings went thru with zero noise, zero blame, and zero findings.

It could be 20 guys in our govt doing it.  those around them might suspect but not know.  There had to have been a military demo team wire the building (likely using that main elevator which was shut down the month before 911!) but that could be an overseas merc group.

I love my country, I love the Constitution, and I love my govt.

I think there might be a few people in power who killed our citizens to further their own goals though.  And I think if investigations show who is involved, they'll be voted out of power and new people can come in and do things right.

:)
Title: Re: Is bin Laden already dead?
Post by: headhuntersix on August 26, 2006, 01:44:05 AM
Thats my point..............dammi t. a few guys could not have pulled this off. if your right then alot of folks had to do it. Your right I am not the "government" its made up of people who would rather be doing aything else then what we are but we do it anyway.  am not debating this anymore ..but what i want to know is that if things happend as u say then was the election rigged to allow events to transpire as they panned out. Further, how deep a conspiracy are we talking at that point.
Title: Re: Is bin Laden already dead?
Post by: 240 is Back on August 26, 2006, 06:49:29 AM
was the election rigged to allow events to transpire as they panned out.

Further, how deep a conspiracy are we talking at that point.

1) I don't know.

2) I don't know and I don't pretend to know.

All I DO know is that the events of Tues, Spet 11, 2001 involved a sophisticated level of involvement from individuals here to
-disable our air defenses
-place explosives in several NYC buildings
-halt then cripple a full investigation
 and about a thousand other things.

A new investigation would allow those who have spent 5 years of their own time studying that day to present their findings.  And, it would allow anyone who was involved a platform to come fwd and do the right thing with no fear of being suicided.

That's all I ask for and all I want.  Anything outside of that is just me speculating.