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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: JaggyShortBuff on August 29, 2006, 09:26:51 PM
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A Legend To New Blood......
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Shawn 8)
Shawn is better, but we have seen the best of Shawn. Let give Phil couple of years and see what he turns to be
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A Legend To New Blood......
Yeah, we'll see. Everyone was talking about Richard Jones as the second coming of Shawn Ray and he disappeared into thin air. And he was better, and had more potential, than Heath.
(http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Richard_Jones/Richard_Jones_022.jpg)
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RAY WINS EVERY TIME!
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Did Richard Jones win any shows? Phil has a lot of time to mature. He wont disapear. He can only get better.
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shawn was awesome but never won a sandow...for whatever reasons....so
compare heath to the people he has to beat now, to be number 1
that being said...Victor Martinez will be the next Mr O
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Im pulling for Branch. He is my pick to win the O sometime in the next three years.
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Did Richard Jones win any shows? Phil has a lot of time to mature. He wont disapear. He can only get better.
He will never win another show except small ones. Never a big show in his future.
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I disagree, He is still young, imagine how much mass he could put on in 3-4 years.
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He will never win another show except small ones. Never a big show in his future.
Define a "big show" and regardless of that - how much would you like to bet on this?
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The biggest thing against Richard Jones winning a pro contest is the fact that Richard Jones is smart enough to know that Richard Jones juicing for a chance at a 10k purse (or whatever miniscule amount they're giving) is not worth it.
He might be genetically blessed with potential physique wise but the fact he's a smart guy is way more important and he could make money a whole easier without any risk to his health elsewhere.
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The biggest thing against Richard Jones winning a pro contest is the fact that Richard Jones is smart enough to know that Richard Jones juicing for a chance at a 10k purse (or whatever miniscule amount they're giving) is not worth it.
He might be genetically blessed with potential physique wise but the fact he's a smart guy is way more important and he could make money a whole easier without any risk to his health elsewhere.
Bump for common sense..... did anyone else notice that when he announced he was stepping away from BB that Shawn Ray was ridiculing him and calling him a punk ...class act he is.. that one, the little guy i mean.
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Bump for common sense..... did anyone else notice that when he announced he was stepping away from BB that Shawn Ray was ridiculing him and calling him a punk ...class act he is.. that one, the little guy i mean.
when was this? It's amazing the shit that comes out of shawns mouth if that is true. "Speak on this"
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A Legend To New Blood......
Honestly there is no comparison...yet. Phil is absolutely amazing and I expect him to be the next great thing to hit bb. That being said Shawn Ray was an absoultely amazing bb but Shawn is also a legend in the sport. He has solidified his name for being a warrior on and off the stage and that is what sets them apart. Just like Arnold can be declared the greatest because of both his career and what he gave back to his sport. Plus if you stood Shawn on the stage next to a Phil still being a rookie, Phil would probably lose. Shawn has 13+ years of development compared to Phil 4 years. But the excitement about Phil is what he will become in the future. Phil came this far in 4 years so think about what he can do in 2007. He will be practically unbeatable in 2-3 years mark my words. Much like a Flex Wheeler but without all the insecurities and the illness that plagued Flex his whole career and held him back.
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Can't say I remember such comments. Unless they were made in jest?
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Richard is amazing too BTW and I will look forward for him to be amaong the new crop of guys that carry on the sport in the future.
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Can't say I remember such comments. Unless they were made in jest?
yeah, i thought shawn and RJ were friends...
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well, Phil had a better rookie year than shawn did, that's for sure. Shawn got 4th at his pro debut, the 88 NOC, behind Phil Hill, Robbie Robinson and Bob Paris then went on to place very low at the O...well low for all the hype shawn was getting.
too bad Phil Hill fizzled out, I would have loved to see those 2 go at it for years.....could have been a war.
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does anybody know if Richard is going to compete soon, or even again?
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Phil will WIN the Arnold next year, PERIOD!
Are there many shows Bigger than that or did I miss something?
As for Richard Jones, we were and still are friends. :-*
I helped the dude, guided him, fed him, drove him to the gym, trained with him and gave him Advices'.
Dont start making up stuff, he and I are cool, always have been, his best move was to move on and out of BBing as there is more to life and he understood that.
Now, if you wanna talk about Tamali's stellar career since calling me out, we can have some fun! ;D
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Phil will WIN the Arnold next year, PERIOD!
Are there many shows Bigger than that or did I miss something?
As for Richard Jones, we were and still are friends. :-*
I helped the dude, guided him, fed him, drove him to the gym, trained with him and gave him Advices'.
Dont start making up stuff, he and I are cool, always have been, his best move was to move on and out of BBing as there is more to life and he understood that.
Now, if you wanna talk about Tamali's stellar career since calling me out, we can have some fun! ;D
Well legends don't have to make excuses for the obvious...Tamali was going nowhere fast and to talk about you only made the downward spiral go faster....(Message brought to you by The Council)
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Bump for common sense..... did anyone else notice that when he announced he was stepping away from BB that Shawn Ray was ridiculing him and calling him a punk ...class act he is.. that one, the little guy i mean.
^So this guy is lying again. Just look at his pictures, he is a skinny geek
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The comparison was inevitable as they are similar (Ray & Heath) in many ways.
But Shawn, so what you're saying is that Phil IS going to whoop your boy Dexter's ass?
Phil's got stupid potential. But i hope he doesn't try to juice his way to #1 at the O. Pace yourself Phil, pace yourself.
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Phil will handle his business they way he always has.
A surprise to no one.
Peace.
S
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Do you think he can beat Dexter?
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Yes, if Dexter thinks it will be easy, we will see.
I think these two match up great and would love to see them square off.
Phil may bring out the best in Dexter and vice versa, good thing I'm not a Judge!
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Phil needs to bring his chest and back up to compete with the BIG boys...bottom line, hopefully thats what he is doing now..
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Yes, if Dexter thinks it will be easy, we will see.
I think these two match up great and would love to see them square off.
Phil may bring out the best in Dexter and vice versa, good thing I'm not a Judge!
Naw, I beg to differ. I don't think Phil can beat Dexter. Dexter is just too complete to hand over his AS crown and pay check just because Heath had a good debut.
Phil needs a better chest and back.
Dexter needs a bit more quad separation. they tend to smooth out near the hips.
$100K can bring out the best in anybody!
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Heath doesn't have what it takes yet to beat Dex...The condition Dex comes in alone will beat the current Heath...
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Shawn, are you helping Heath prepare at all? And did you ever help Dexter at all in his career?
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I think Phil Heath vs. Melvin Anthony is more interesting.
Phil has great arms v. Melvin has good arms
Both have mediocre chest
Melvin has great back v. Phil has weak back
Both have great quads
Heath can nail conditioning w/ripped glutes v. Melvin has not shown that.
Melvin is a bit wider than Phil with a smaller waist for a better taper.
These two in a contest would be interesting.
Special "Yes, I know. That was gay." Ed
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Phil will WIN the Arnold next year, PERIOD!
Are there many shows Bigger than that or did I miss something?
As for Richard Jones, we were and still are friends. :-*
I helped the dude, guided him, fed him, drove him to the gym, trained with him and gave him Advices'.
Dont start making up stuff, he and I are cool, always have been, his best move was to move on and out of BBing as there is more to life and he understood that.
Now, if you wanna talk about Tamali's stellar career since calling me out, we can have some fun! ;D
Damn I never thought I'd hear a bodybuilding legend say bodybuilding is a desolate sport with no ways out.
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Dexter vs. Heath vs. Melvin would be pretty interesting to see.
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Dexter vs. Heath vs. Melvin would be pretty interesting to see.
The Blade would slice them down easily.....
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I think Phil Heath vs. Melvin Anthony is more interesting.
Phil has great arms v. Melvin has good arms
Both have mediocre chest
Melvin has great back v. Phil has weak back
Both have great quads
Heath can nail conditioning w/ripped glutes v. Melvin has not shown that.
Melvin is a bit wider than Phil with a smaller waist for a better taper.
These two in a contest would be interesting.
Special "Yes, I know. That was gay." Ed
Phil doesn't have a weak back at all and kills Melvin on conditioning.
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But the question is: Is Heath ready for a "Dexter or a Melvin"?
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But the question is: Is Heath ready for a "Dexter or a Melvin"?
No way is he ready for Dex, but maybe Melvin....
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I agree. Dexter is just too much for Heath.
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I agree. Dexter is just too much for Heath.
For now. Dex has a much larger torso and conditioning is also a strong point for him.
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No and No to both questions. ;)
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Nice to have a real expert opinion regarding this for once. Thanks Shawn. :)
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Shawn could probibly come back after a solid 6 months doing the grind and bet dexter and heath both !!!
probibly !!!
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Shawn could probibly come back after a solid 6 months doing the grind and bet dexter and heath both !!!
probibly !!!
I wish I could talk him into doing just that for a big take over to show the young bloods how its done....
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Shawn could probibly come back after a solid 6 months doing the grind and bet dexter and heath both !!!
probibly !!!
If he put that DVD out...I'd buy it !
I'm not a huge fan of Mr.Ray the person... But Mr. Ray the bodybuilder ,and his video's ....HUGE FAN!!!!!
Noone does it better ...Mr. Rays video's are excellent!!!!!!!
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Shawn could probibly come back after a solid 6 months doing the grind and bet dexter and heath both !!!
probibly !!!
give him a full 12 months and shawn will beat them both, easily.
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We could start a "Bring Shawn back " pettition
as well as labrada, Flex , Gaspari, Yates
and we could also list the help of a physic and do a bring back Munzer, Benizia campaign as well !! :D
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shawn, so richard jones retired from bodybuilding??
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Phil will WIN the Arnold next year, PERIOD!
Are there many shows Bigger than that or did I miss something?
As for Richard Jones, we were and still are friends. :-*
I helped the dude, guided him, fed him, drove him to the gym, trained with him and gave him Advices'.
Dont start making up stuff, he and I are cool, always have been, his best move was to move on and out of BBing as there is more to life and he understood that.
Now, if you wanna talk about Tamali's stellar career since calling me out, we can have some fun! ;D
Pretty impressive. You change his diapers too?
Richard is very grateful for all of your "Advices'" and guidance but I am also pretty sure he knows a thing or two about life and BB as well. Do no make it sound like Richard would be nothing without you.
-keep it real-
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The A will be subjective as all the shows are. If Phil is the wonder boy and current heir...which is being pushed through the mags, then Dex will place 2nd. We've seen it with one armed MrOs and a close call on Phil's turf at the CO show...which was probably Charles' show...not the NY show.
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Might as well add another "height challenged person" to make it fair
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Hey Shawn, if Richard Jones continues to compete, who do you think would have a better shot at the Sandow between him and Phil Heath?
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Might as well add another "height challenged person" to make it fair
That guy looks a little off :-\
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Hey Shawn, if Richard Jones continues to compete, who do you think would have a better shot at the Sandow between him and Phil Heath?
Neither. they will no way reward anyone that short.
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Naw, I don't think Jones will ever be Mr. O. He just doesn't have the size to be a top contender. Great looks and shape. But not Mr. O material.
Heath has a chance to win it in a year or two.
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Heath is younger, hungry and Jones is not competing.
End story.
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As we all know taller guys always win the big show...But really over the years many shorter bodybuilder have deserved their fair nods at number one of the world........