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Of course Flex looked phenomenal in both shows, but there's something about his '92 USA condition that edges out his '93 Arnold Classic condition.
(http://teamflexwheeler.com/flex/image6_/COLL04235.jpg)
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He was better conditioned at the 93AC...I think he looked fuller at the 92USA just like the 93 ironman
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93 ASC, best stage look in history to this day
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93 ASC, best stage look in history to this day
I have to agree.
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He was better conditioned at the 93AC...I think he looked fuller at the 92USA just like the 93 ironman
He definetly looked fuller at the '93 Ironman. Incredible that within a week he was shredded for the Arnold Classic.
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Anal Iceman...you restore my faith that there are people on this board who ACTUALLY know something about bodybuilding......Flex 93 best onstage physique ever. Period. Amen.
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He definetly looked fuller at the '93 Ironman. Incredible that within a week he was shredded for the Arnold Classic.
235 pounds at the Ironman it was said on his video, I beleive 218-220 pounds for the Arnold. I wish Arnold would releash the all of the Arnold Classics on DVD. that would be the shit, cause he would make a killing on them. And I wish NPC would re-release the 1992 USA's. Because, I think the production company (Video Muscle) is no longer in business. They used to sell the 92 USA's in the back of Flex magazines, I have and ad for that in one of my 96 Flex' Magazines.
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The Arnold Classic DVD would be sweet.
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235 pounds at the Ironman it was said on his video, I beleive 218-220 pounds for the Arnold. I wish Arnold would releash the all of the Arnold Classics on DVD. that would be the shit, cause he would make a killing on them. And I wish NPC would re-release the 1992 USA's. Because, I think the production company (Video Muscle) is no longer in business. They used to sell the 92 USA's in the back of Flex magazines, I have and ad for that in one of my 96 Flex' Magazines.
I hear ya, bro. That would be awesome! Funny you mentioned a re-release of the 1992 USA Championship 'cause I was flippin' through some back issues of muscle magazines and seen that very same ad for the sale of the '92 USA. I have searched high 'n low for that video with no such luck. How I would love to own that video. :'(
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The Arnold Classic DVD would be sweet.
Maybe.... just maybe, with the release of the 2006 Arnold Classic on DVD they will release previous contest of the same name.
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I have to agree.
yes, me to...His lower back was the most ripped ever
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His best condition was in fact one week out from the 93 O, where according to Jim Quinn during the commentary of that event he states that he knows for a fact Flex's bf was measured at 0.0% at Golds one week out, the lowest ever recorded reading at Golds Venice apparently.
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think the red trunks is 93 'O
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If there is one guy anyone here could look like, it would be this more often than not. Could you imagine the pussy you could pull looking like this :o
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=92345.0;attach=100439;image)
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I hear ya, bro. That would be awesome! Funny you mentioned a re-release of the 1992 USA Championship 'cause I was flippin' through some back issues of muscle magazines and seen that very same ad for the sale of the '92 USA. I have searched high 'n low for that video with no such luck. How I would love to own that video. :'(
I tried looking up the company on the net, no go. Tried Ebay, no go, for both. Somebody like GMV which puts old videos on DVD should buy the rights to the NPC USA's (they have done that with others) and the Arnold Classics and produce them. I know videos are out there. They had the 98 and 99 Arnold on UPN, so footage exists. I think Arnold doesn't want them out, because it would hurt his political image.
I remember the ad, and I kick myself for not buying the video back in 96.
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If there is one guy anyone here could look like, it would be this more often than not. Could you imagine the pussy you could pull looking like this :o
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=92345.0;attach=100439;image)
The pic looks a bit narrow, yeah I haer you on that point. No wonder the dude was cocky, you would be too if you look like this.
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If there is one guy anyone here could look like, it would be this more often than not. Could you imagine the pussy you could pull looking like this :o
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=92345.0;attach=100439;image)
thats some funny shit... ;D
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They had the 98 and 99 Arnold on UPN, so footage exists. I think Arnold doesn't want them out, because it would hurt his political image.
Don't take this the wrong way, but that sounds silly for you to say considering to this day Arnold is still promoting bodybuilding through his anuual Arnold Classic. If it was to 'hurt his political image', I would think he'd jump ship the moment he took office, yet every year he is still at Columbus, Ohio. And if anything was to hurt his image it wouldn't be UPN footage of his show, but those Japanese commercials. :D
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thats some funny shit... ;D
Assuming your weiner is not limp from all the Deca Durabolin?
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think the red trunks is 93 'O
Correct! You win a hundred bucks!
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weiner....luv the american patter...
u make a good point
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Correct! You win a hundred bucks!
u seem almost as sharp as me... ;)
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u seem almost as sharp as me... ;)
;D
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The pic looks a bit narrow, yeah I haer you on that point. No wonder the dude was cocky, you would be too if you look like this.
Yeah, that's just the thing, isn't it? It'd be really hard to keep a humble perspective, wouldn't it?
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If there is one guy anyone here could look like, it would be this more often than not. Could you imagine the pussy you could pull looking like this :o
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=92345.0;attach=100439;image)
yeah, but the pussy you get might look like this:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/atlantismartell/people/ShowLetjjter.jpg)
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Flex 93 AC was unreal.
I have said it before, and I'll say it again:
Flex 93
Ray 94 or 96
Ronnie 99
are the three best phyisques in history and are all virtually unbeatable, but all have flaws (flex, ray - lat width and back thickness, Ronnie -abs and calves).
No one is perfect, but these three are unbeatable onstage even WITH their flaws...
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Flex 93 AC was unreal.
I have said it before, and I'll say it again:
Flex 93
Ray 94 or 96
Ronnie 99
are the three best phyisques in history and are all virtually unbeatable, but all have flaws (flex, ray - lat width and back thickness, Ronnie -abs and calves).
No one is perfect, but these three are unbeatable onstage even WITH their flaws...
Ray 94 or 96 get real ::) Sorry, but watch BFTO 96, Ronnie is better than Shawn even there.
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I love reading about flex or looking at pics. definatly one of my fav's of all time. He should have his own columb in MD, he does alot for the mag but it'd be cool to read about questions sent to him and his answers.
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Ray 94 or 96 get real
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=74007.0;attach=81161;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=91658.0;attach=99905;image)
(http://www.testmester.net/images/kepek/nagyok/3046.jpg)
get real? I think not. Just because shawn was shorter than some does not mean he was any less than amazing from most angles...
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Don't take this the wrong way, but that sounds silly for you to say considering to this day Arnold is still promoting bodybuilding through his anuual Arnold Classic. If it was to 'hurt his political image', I would think he'd jump ship the moment he took office, yet every year he is still at Columbus, Ohio. And if anything was to hurt his image it wouldn't be UPN footage of his show, but those Japanese commercials. :D
True, true. But I think if Arnold put out the DVD's of the Arnold Classic someone might say he is promoting drug use too much. One contest is enough. But to have thousands of copies of Multiple Arnold Classics featured huge steriodal men, that might be too much for his conservative agenda. That is my guess, maybe I'm grasping at straws.
I emailed his website (his PR people) a year ago about when or if he was going to release his Arnold Classic contests on DVD, no answer yet.
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If there is one guy anyone here could look like, it would be this more often than not. Could you imagine the pussy you could pull looking like this :o
nothing compared to what a model type guy can get, brad pitt for instance.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=74007.0;attach=81161;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=91658.0;attach=99905;image)
(http://www.testmester.net/images/kepek/nagyok/3046.jpg)
get real? I think not. Just because shawn was shorter than some does not mean he was any less than amazing from most angles...
Sorry, that just doesn't impress me. If you think Shawn is that great, watch the 96 BFTO, you will see Ronnie is better than Ray even in 96. Oh and also, after watching Olympia 98, 99, and BFTO 96, Ronnie was MORE ripped, and better conditioned 7 days out in 96. THe difference in conditioning on the stage between 96 and 99 was that Ronnie didnt know how to come into a show back then, that's where Chad helped him out.
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Sorry, that just doesn't impress me. If you think Shawn is that great, watch the 96 BFTO, you will see Ronnie is better than Ray even in 96. Oh and also, after watching Olympia 98, 99, and BFTO 96, Ronnie was MORE ripped, and better conditioned 7 days out in 96. THe difference in conditioning on the stage between 96 and 99 was that Ronnie didnt know how to come into a show back then, that's where Chad helped him out.
I didn't necessarily say that Shawn was better than Ronnie, since we all know Ronnie 99 was probably better than anyone (even Flex 93 by virtue of the wide and thicker back) but I think those shots show that Shawn 94 or 96 had a level of quality that has ONLY been seen on Ronnie and Flex. No one else. No one else had the muscular shape. Not dorian. Not Jay. Not anyone. Haney came close, but lacked the freaky detail of Ronnie, Flex and Shawn.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=74007.0;attach=81161;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=92345.0;attach=100439;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=75219.0;attach=82367;image)
they are of comparable quality.
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Flex himself says that 1993 ASC package was not his best showing.
He says the 1996 NOC or the 1998 ASC were his best conditions.
1998 ASC
(http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Arnold_Classic/1998/Arnold_Classic_1998_006.jpg)
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Flex himself says that 1993 ASC package was not his best showing.
He says the 1996 NOC or the 1998 ASC were his best conditions.
1998 ASC
(http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Arnold_Classic/1998/Arnold_Classic_1998_006.jpg)
true. right before the 99 olympia he gave an interview to Flex magazine talking about how his 98 AC shape was his best ever and if he can regain that shape he will beat Ronnie.
Problem is, as we all know, 98 and beyond were suspicious years for Flex in terms of oil/synthol.
That is probably why 93 is regarded over 98 as his best shape ever: no oil.
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True, true. But I think if Arnold put out the DVD's of the Arnold Classic someone might say he is promoting drug use too much. One contest is enough. But to have thousands of copies of Multiple Arnold Classics featured huge steriodal men, that might be too much for his conservative agenda. That is my guess, maybe I'm grasping at straws.
I emailed his website (his PR people) a year ago about when or if he was going to release his Arnold Classic contests on DVD, no answer yet.
That's cool that you at least took action to try and find out.
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I love reading about flex or looking at pics. definatly one of my fav's of all time. He should have his own columb in MD, he does alot for the mag but it'd be cool to read about questions sent to him and his answers.
Me too. I love Flex Wheeler! Anyway.... you must never had read Muscular Development back in the day because for some time Flex indeed have his own column [Q&A style] which turned into ReFLEXtions [his personal stories] which turned into.... POOF.... nothing. :'(
I wish they'd give Flex his column again.
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Flex himself says that 1993 ASC package was not his best showing.
He says the 1996 NOC or the 1998 ASC were his best conditions.
1998 ASC
(http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Arnold_Classic/1998/Arnold_Classic_1998_006.jpg)
yeah 96 noc was his best show IMO
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yeah 96 noc was his best show IMO
only problem with his 96 NOC shape is that he was soft in the glutes and hams (unlike 93 AC).
but he was ripped from the front.
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Hulkster, as much as you love Ronnie Coleman have you actually met him?
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only problem with his 96 NOC shape is that he was soft in the glutes and hams (unlike 93 AC).
but he was ripped from the front.
I think Ronnie and Flex may have been the two best bbers ever to appear on the same stage at the 96 NOC. Both were unreal
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Hulkster, as much as you love Ronnie Coleman have you actually met him?
no, not yet. He was supposed to come to toronto last year but it was cancelled.
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no, not yet. He was supposed to come to toronto last year but it was cancelled.
I can only imagine your reaction when you do. :D
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Can somebody post the 3/4 back shot of Flex at the 93 arnold?
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(http://body.builder.hu/imagebank/pictures/1000136363.jpg)
(http://body.builder.hu/imagebank/pictures/1000134561.jpg)
no one has ever had a more detailed upper back than Flex did in 1993 :o
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no, not yet. He was supposed to come to toronto last year but it was cancelled.
I met him not 10 minutes after he won his first 'O' in NY. I shook his hand(HUGE HANDS) and said "congrats, you looked amazing but I thought they were gonna give it to Flex" and he kept pointing at the protein bar I was eating and saying " Loo motu con feetul ik meeby pootery?"
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no one has ever had a more detailed upper back than Flex did in 1993 :o
Exactly! Thanks for recognizing that, Hulkster. ;D
Anyway, I've met Ronnie several times and let me tell you.... he is a great, down-to-earth kinda guy. If and when you do meet him, you won't be disappointed.
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(http://body.builder.hu/imagebank/pictures/1000134561.jpg)
This pic will probably go down in history as Flex's signature pic, like the one of Sergio in his fedora and tight shirt (the pool shot), and Arnold's twisting double bi pic.
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This pic will probably go down in history as Flex's signature pic
I'm with you there.
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This pic will probably go down in history as Flex's signature pic, like the one of Sergio in his fedora and tight shirt (the pool shot), and Arnold's twisting double bi pic.
and don't forget this shot:
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=52478.0;attach=57982;image)
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in all seriousness, this is probably the greatest Ronnie shot ever taken:
(http://body.builder.hu/imagebank/pictures/974182578.jpg)
either that or this one:
(http://www.ronniecoleman.net/bwcoleman0edecbab.jpg)
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in all seriousness, this is probably the greatest Ronnie shot ever taken:
(http://body.builder.hu/imagebank/pictures/974182578.jpg)
either that or this one:
(http://www.ronniecoleman.net/bwcoleman0edecbab.jpg)
Nope, it is the Black and White full body shots, that he took back in 1998, he clearly had the best definition, and symetry at that time. His quads were damn seperated then.
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I'm with you there.
Nobody can do that pose justice, not even Federov, Flex owns that pose, as well as the "hands and hips" most muscular.
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Nope, it is the Black and White full body shots, that he took back in 1998, he clearly had the best definition, and symetry at that time. His quads were damn seperated then.
(http://digilander.libero.it/mikementzer/Coleman18.jpg)
(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/rc102.jpg)
these ones?
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Whoa, whoa, whoa.... hold up! This is gettin' to be a Ronnie thread! :P
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Those are actually from 97.
I think Ronnie may have actually been better from the back in 98 than 99, but the front was way way better in 99....much better taper, much better quad separation, bigger biceps.
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Those are actually from 97.
I think Ronnie may have actually been better from the back in 98 than 99, but the front was way way better in 99....much better taper, much better quad separation, bigger biceps.
Ronnie at the pre-judging in the 99 tape looked incredible - upper back detail and all.
I think one of two things happened:
1. Ronnie softened a bit for the night show in 99
or
2. the lighting and posing oil (Ronnie was definately too dry during his night show routine) may have highlighted the definition better.
hard to say which one.
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he definitely looked better in the pre-judging. I still think he was sharper from the back in 98, but way better from the front in 99
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Proof bigger is not alway's better,coleman could have cruised all the way with his earlier physique and still won,and would have cemented his legacy without much debate with his softer but bigger physique,unlike yate's he suffered no injuries until recently and now show's the wear and tear that cost yate's the best ever title.
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I don;t have any pictures, but if you watch the 94 Olympia tape you see Ronnie in the background briefly and his waist looked unreal. With his billowing lats and wide shoulders, it looked like it was barely there. Nuts.
Even at his worst (regardless of when you consider that to be), Ronnie has always had a fantastic taper.
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Nobody can do that pose justice, not even Federov, Flex owns that pose, as well as the "hands and hips" most muscular.
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson69_new5big.jpg)
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how many times has hulkster posted the same pics of ronnie? 100? 1000?
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this is by far the best shot ever taken of a pro in his street clothes...holy hell this pic always freaks me out.colemans arms look like 30 inches
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(http://digilander.libero.it/mikementzer/Coleman18.jpg)
(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/rc102.jpg)
these ones?
Those are good, but it is the one's that Flex mag usually runs. There are several of them. There is white studio background. One is hands on hips, another is double bi, another is a most muscular.
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I think you mean the B&W shots of Ronnie used in the IFBB ads in Flex.
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If there is one guy anyone here could look like, it would be this more often than not. Could you imagine the pussy you could pull looking like this :o
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=92345.0;attach=100439;image)
you must be pretty ugly
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Those are good, but it is the one's that Flex mag usually runs. There are several of them. There is white studio background. One is hands on hips, another is double bi, another is a most muscular.
are these pics on the web?
the only ones I know of are these:
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/coleman/rc230.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/coleman/rc229.jpg)
(http://www.ronniecoleman.net/bwcole09ggiu.jpg)
but I don't think this is what you are talking about.
I haven't purchased a Flex in awhile, I usually buy MD.
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are these pics on the web?
the only ones I know of are these:
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/coleman/rc229.jpg)
but I don't think this is what you are talking about.
I haven't purchased a Flex in awhile, I usually buy MD.
This one, is one of the pics. Shows Ronnie at his best. Like the twisting back shot, shows Flex Wheeler at his best
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Flex 93 AC was unreal.
I have said it before, and I'll say it again:
Flex 93
Ray 94 or 96
Ronnie 99
are the three best phyisques in history and are all virtually unbeatable, but all have flaws (flex, ray - lat width and back thickness, Ronnie -abs and calves).
No one is perfect, but these three are unbeatable onstage even WITH their flaws...
You are forgetting Kevin Levrone aswell! ;)