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Title: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: Ron on September 04, 2006, 06:52:25 PM

Here are a number of pictures from Labor Day's Muscle Beach Venice, which honored Joe Weider, and brought Governor Arnold Schwarzenneger to introduce and honor Joe.

http://www.getbig.com/pics/misc/20060904musclebeachvenice/musclebeachvenice.htm
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: ManBearPig... on September 04, 2006, 06:54:59 PM
how does Maria feel about this photo?

(http://www.getbig.com/pics/misc/20060904musclebeachvenice/venice01.jpg)
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: knny187 on September 04, 2006, 07:03:27 PM
how does Maria feel about this photo?

(http://www.getbig.com/pics/misc/20060904musclebeachvenice/venice01.jpg)

I'm guessing it's his daughter?
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: Slick Vic on September 04, 2006, 07:04:41 PM
Very cool! Thanks, Ron!
You just made me sad....  :'(

Oh well.... if I couldn't be there at least I got to see the pics.
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: knny187 on September 04, 2006, 07:07:58 PM
Very cool! Thanks, Ron!
You just made me sad....  :'(

Oh well.... if I couldn't be there at least I got to see the pics.

Tell me about it....

Joe is looking pretty old.

Betty's checking out Arnold.

(I've always wondered.......)

 ;D
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: Vince B on September 04, 2006, 07:28:00 PM
Bill Reynolds told me Joe used to hate when audiences would boo him at contests. I guess he finally got some respect from everyone. Betty looks great as always. Franco is thinning out like the rest of us! Nice to see Arnold attend.
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: knny187 on September 04, 2006, 07:29:50 PM
Franco is thinning out like the rest of us!.

Actually....good point.

I hate seeing BBr's wearing a rug or getting the plugs.  Who really gives a shit you know?

Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on September 04, 2006, 07:35:27 PM
Viagra was handed out via punch bowl at this event...... ;D
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on September 04, 2006, 07:39:13 PM
I'm guessing it's his daughter?

Thats Rachel McLish!!
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: jwb on September 04, 2006, 07:41:41 PM
Thats Rachel McLish!!
I think he meant on his lap... might be rachel's daughter maybe?

Rachel is still super hot IMO... check out the bicep vein too!
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on September 04, 2006, 07:43:15 PM
Just as I said Viagra was given out......LoL
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: Chick on September 04, 2006, 07:49:09 PM
I believe the little girl is Franco's grand-daughter...
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: tommywishbone on September 04, 2006, 07:50:43 PM
Great shots Ron. Sorry I didn't get to meet you. Huge crowd and a great day!
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: OneMoreRep on September 04, 2006, 08:07:00 PM
You gotta admit, Arnold still has that smug look that demands respect.

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Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: Wombat on September 04, 2006, 08:49:32 PM
Weider looks like he could star in the next Weekend at Bernie's film....
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: onlyme on September 04, 2006, 08:59:37 PM
Weider looks like he could star in the next Weekend at Bernie's film....

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: onlyme on September 04, 2006, 09:03:52 PM
Hey I've taken showers with 2 out of those 4 people.
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: Vince B on September 04, 2006, 09:13:10 PM
You showered with Rachel?
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: Crusher on September 04, 2006, 09:20:43 PM
I think Betty still looks hot!
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: Ron on September 04, 2006, 09:25:40 PM
It was pretty cool. I took the family down to Venice Beach (4 month old son, 2 3/4 year old daughter) and the wife. $12 for parking out there, and lots of traffic once you get to the beach. It started promptly at one (the presentation award to Joe Weider), and tons of television stations and cameras were there to cover the Governors stop. I saw at least three vans with their anttenas 20 feet up so they were going to broadcast there live, which they did, throughout the evening also.  

The girl on Arnold's lap is Franco's Grandaughter, I think. Next to Arnold is Rachel McClish, she was getting an award also, but sometime after the competition started and the television cameras and Arnold went away.

Joe Weider is an icon, and you truly feel a measure of respect when you see the guy, because after all, no matter what people think of him now, he truly helped to build up the sport, the magazines, and in some way, a lot of the supplements industry around him. But Joe walks with a cane, and he needed help to get on the state, but 83-85 years old, who had a seven hour operation 2 years ago, is still healing.  

Afterwards, I did the most important thing there. Played with my daughter in the children's play area, and watched my son being amazed by all the interesting folks in bikins and more...
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 04, 2006, 09:40:16 PM
It was a very nice weekend to be in Venice!
The crowd and competition was great.
I like Ron, chose to spend some time on the beach and board walk taking it all in with my daughter.
Days like this, come once in a lifetime where the past meets the present.
Arnold, Weider, McLish, Tinnerino, J. Brown, J. Balik, Roland K. Bob Cich and more........
Peace,
S. Ray
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: onlyme on September 04, 2006, 09:42:15 PM
You showered with Rachel?
Arnold and Rachel and Franco and Roger Callard, and just about everyone else.  We had coed gang shower at the old World.  It wasn't posted as coed but we only had one locker room with one gang shower.  If you want to take a shower then you have to do it with everyone.  At times it was fun.  They ended up building a womens locker room later on.  I didn't take showers there everyday.  It just depended on the time I had and what I was doing afterwards
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: Special Ed on September 04, 2006, 09:49:16 PM
McDish still looks hot. Joe looks like he's being propped up from Weekend at Bernies. Betty looks fantastic. I think I just might do her even at 76 years old! Arnold still da man. Did Chick get the chance to ask Lynn Conkwright why he never got a Weider deal? All in all, looks like a fun time. Shawn, while you were eating Twinkies, did anybody recognize you from Die Hard?

Special "Joe Bucci's Marina Pacific Hotel" Ed
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: Wombat on September 04, 2006, 09:52:13 PM
   .  I didn't take showers there everyday.  It just depended on the time I had and what I was doing afterwards

I think you left out "and if their were any chicks in there showing" ;D
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: Vince B on September 04, 2006, 10:18:49 PM
Betty Brosmer was born in 1935 according to sites on line. I remember her on magazines back in the 1950s. Here is Betty at her best. Her waist is still amazing.

Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: ollie on September 04, 2006, 10:24:18 PM
Complete video of Arnold's intro and Joe's speech at

http://www.graphicmuscle.com/pop_report.cfm?ReportID=224

Pics here

http://graphicmuscle.com/index.cfm?go2=contests_year&ContestYearID=726 . 

Check out Melanie Garcia!!!!!!
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: Mydavid on September 04, 2006, 11:01:57 PM
Complete video of Arnold's intro and Joe's speech at

http://www.graphicmuscle.com/pop_report.cfm?ReportID=224

Pics here

http://graphicmuscle.com/index.cfm?go2=contests_year&ContestYearID=726 . 

Check out Melanie Garcia!!!!!!

So i saw the TV coverage on channel 11 out here in pretty Pasadena area...anyhow, wish i was there and so would Hans had he been alive...anyhow, they showed one screwed up male lookin' poser and then a lineup of some girls that didn't really belong...then again i tell myself, "it's Muscle Beach"!!!!

Lisa
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: Tomanater on September 04, 2006, 11:22:32 PM
Thanks for the pics Ron. Damn I got to get my ass back down to the Mecca. Its been much to long since my last visit..

Peace D
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: Vince B on September 05, 2006, 12:26:22 AM
Joe still has his dignity and told the crowd he loved them and considered them his children. He said the most important thing is life is your wife and he always honoured his. Betty looked young and full of vitality. Joe said the 7 hour operation he had 2 years ago has another 6 months healing before he is himself again.

Who would have believed that Arnold would be there today as the governor of California presenting such an award to Joe. Joe received the award from the Muscle Beach and city of LA people. Arnold also gave Joe a citation from the people of California for his contribution to health and fitness.

I saw photos of Arnold pointing and I thought he was picking out people to mention but he was merely pointing out how many cameras there were and said more than 12 and they were there for Joe. Truth is the cameras left after Arnold left. There were police lined up behind the stage to protect Arnold. Who would have thought that would ever be necessary for a guy who arrived there in October 1968 as Mr Universe and nothing much in his pocket. He told the people California was a place where you could make your dreams come true if you worked hard enough.

People, when you are assisting the blind or frail let them hold onto your arms. Don't take their arms because they have nothing to hold onto. Joe grabbed Arnold's hand to help get to the top of the stairs. It was good to see the love the crowd had for Joe. That was a nice moment in this crazy sport. I think Arnold exaggerated Joe's contribution but the essence was spot on.  
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: Slick Vic on September 05, 2006, 04:12:29 AM
Few here are thinking that's Franco's granddaughter [girl on lap]. I beg to differ. Now, to my knowledge, Franco had only one child in the early 90's, a lil' girl named Maria Elizabeth Columbu, in which Arnold became the godfather at a ceremony. If anything, I would assume that would be Arnold's goddaughter all grown-up.
Hope this helps.  :)
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: jwb on September 05, 2006, 04:23:23 AM
Poor Joe is looking pretty frustrated at his situation in that footage...

Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: irish_strenght on September 05, 2006, 04:36:15 AM
did anyone see ben weider talking about napoleon on the histrory channel? it was weird to see him so out of context
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: smaul on September 05, 2006, 05:01:06 AM
Betty looks hot in that magazine cover from the 50s.  I love the figure, why dont women look like that nowadays?
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: njflex on September 05, 2006, 06:54:12 AM
For all the what happened to bber's scroll down page to shot with bbers behind fence you will see danny hester facially looks the same,cant see his build.
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: timfogarty on September 05, 2006, 06:25:13 PM
For all the what happened to bber's scroll down page to shot with bbers behind fence you will see danny hester facially looks the same,cant see his build.

(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/photos/726/Men/Backstage/IMG_5943.jpg)
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: rocket on September 05, 2006, 06:39:16 PM
Made the news here in australia too.  Nothing about weider though :)

Who asked you Shawn? Always have to stick your nose in everything.

If we're going to question people putting their 2c in on a message board I think we're going to be here all day.
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: gmflex on September 05, 2006, 06:44:59 PM
Weider looks like he could star in the next Weekend at Bernie's film....


 ;D ;D ;D
holy shit!
lmao!
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: knny187 on September 05, 2006, 06:50:10 PM
Weider looks like he could star in the next Weekend at Bernie's film....

Although that was pretty funny.....it also is pretty sad.





Anyways......I like this picture:

Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: Hedgehog on September 05, 2006, 06:57:39 PM
Great article by Ron, think it really shines through in the pics and the text how it was the Former Emperor's (perhaps last) return to his Domain.

Neat. Very neat.




Awesome text for the pic of Lauren Powers:

'Lauren Powers was out there'

(http://www.getbig.com/pics/misc/20060904musclebeachvenice/venice12.jpg)


My comment: Powers sure was. 8)

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: knny187 on September 05, 2006, 07:11:57 PM
Great article by Ron, think it really shines through in the pics and the text how it was the Former Emperor's (perhaps last) return to his Domain.

Neat. Very neat.




Awesome text for the pic of Lauren Powers:

'Lauren Powers was out there'




My comment: Powers sure was. 8)

YIP
Zack

yeah....way out there

Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: Hedgehog on September 05, 2006, 07:18:49 PM
This guy is what bodybuilding is all about. He's better than many Pro BB's.

He represents something entirely different.

(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/photos/726/Men/Backstage/IMG_5842.jpg)(http://www.graphicmuscle.com/photos/726/Men/Backstage/IMG_5853.jpg)
YIP
Zack
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: 300 on September 05, 2006, 07:40:54 PM
Complete video of Arnold's intro and Joe's speech at

http://www.graphicmuscle.com/pop_report.cfm?ReportID=224

Pics here

http://graphicmuscle.com/index.cfm?go2=contests_year&ContestYearID=726 . 

Check out Melanie Garcia!!!!!!

I love how Joe and Arnold were fighting over who was going to hold the microphone!
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: tommywishbone on September 05, 2006, 09:39:49 PM
Danny has had that exact same middriff since 1993. Amazing. Nice guy... IMO.
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: Ron on September 05, 2006, 09:50:39 PM
Quote
did anyone see ben weider talking about napoleon on the histrory channel? it was weird to see him so out of context

Regarding Ben Weider, while not in focus of this thread, he is an expert on Napolean, having written a few books, including one called 'The Murder of Napolean'. Ben is also the president of the International Napoleonic Society, who founded it.

From the IFBB website...

Ben Weider is currently President of the International Napoleonic Society , which has branches in 39 countries. His knowledge about the Emperor Napoleon is legendary, and he is a widely sought lecturer on the subject to history students, including those at Moscow University in 1991, and McGill University in 1994. In June 1995, Ben Weider was invited to give a lecture to the officers of SHAPE/NATO at Mons , Belgium . He also lectured at the Sandhurst Military Academy in London , England , and at the Borodino Military Museum in Borodino , Russia .

In 1975, Ben Weider traveled to the island of St. Hélène to visit where Napoleon lived the last years of his life.

In 1995, two books by Ben Weider were included in a two-volume set of Napoleonic history published by the Russian Historical Society . These books, The Murder of Napoleon and La Sagesse de Napoleon, were included along with highlights from Leo Tolstoy’s War and Peace and a book about Napoleon by Alexandre Dumas. Over 500,000 copies were sold.

In September 1995, the Florida State University created the Ben Weider Eminent Scholar Chair in Napoleonic History . The Florida State University now has the ability to promote Napoleonic history and to encourage students to travel in the context of their Napoleonic research.

Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: Vince B on September 05, 2006, 09:56:01 PM
I guess the truth is it is the end of an era and Joe can't dominate anymore. I remember meeting him in Sydney on a harbour cruise after the Mr Olympia that Arnold won. Joe was sitting there talking. He said he doesn't care who wins because they are all his champions. I told him I took heaps of photos of the contest and he told me to send the contacts to Bill Reynolds.  Bill was right there, too, so I turned to him and in a loud voice said, "Reynolds, if you don't do the right thing with these photos, You're fired!" Joe and others laughed but Reynolds turned white. Bill complained that Joe would confuse him with another Bill in the office and that would really annoy Reynolds. I never found out if Joe did that intentionally.

I always believed that Joe Weider exaggerated claims and so on and I refused to have anything to do with his magazines. I wrote one article for Muscle and Fitness but that was to do with the Mr Canada contest. I had to write my own story. I learned that trick from Robert Nailon. You have to promote yourself of no one will hear about you. It is a pity I never got to know Joe because I am sure he had a sense of humour and was in control of his empire. I wonder who is going to take over after the Weider brothers are gone?
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: Bill Comstock on September 07, 2006, 12:09:58 PM
Joe is obviously fighting for his life. He can barely walk unassissted and doesn't recall who the President of the United States is. All he  is really able to communicate is "I love you all" and "Bodybuilders are tough."  Arnold is capable of extraordinary kindness and generosity to those he cares about, and his sensitivity is palpable in this video. Very touching. 

Keep Joe in your prayers.  He needs them!
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: knny187 on September 07, 2006, 12:12:20 PM
Joe is obviously fighting for his life. He doesn't recall who the President of the United States is. Arnold is capable of extraordinary kindness and generosity to those he cares about, and his sensitivity is palpable in this video. Very touching. 

Keep Joe in your prayers.  He needs them!

I was thinking that too.

But then again....I see everyday people have a lapse & can't remember simple things like who the President is.
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: SecondFocus on September 07, 2006, 04:08:18 PM
Bill is very right. It was obvious to those of us who were very close to the stage etc that Joe Weider is in the waning days of his life and is not fully competent. At 85 many people are indeed in much better health and others not as lucky. We should keep it in mind that one day many of us will be in the same place and hopefully will find others as kind to us as Joe Weider is now finding now.
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: Vince B on September 07, 2006, 09:53:25 PM
Who would have believed that Joe Weider would have trouble talking! He said he was still healing and it was some effort for him to talk. He even forgot one word and others helped him out. He seemed to have his dignity and the essence of what he said was okay. He was very proud of his wife and that was the nicest part of the interview and presentation. I think he knew the occasion might be a goodbye and that weighed heavily upon him because he was quite emotional during his speech. Arnold raised Betty's hand and the sentiment was nice but I guess that wasn't necessary. Arnold was giving Betty credit for sticking by Joe and being there for him.
Title: Re: 2006 Muscle Beach Venice - Joe Weider / Arnold S
Post by: pumpster on September 07, 2006, 10:07:15 PM
Why would anyone be surprised at Joe's condition, he's over 80 and post-op. I'm sure he's just grateful to still be breathing. Betty i'm sure has an excellent plastic surgeon but nontheless looks great for her age.