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Alright Getbig brothers....Where do you think Kamali will place at the Olympia....I am guessing 14th at best....How about you guys????
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Alright Getbig brothers....Where do you think Kamali will place at the Olympia....I am guessing 14th at best....How about you guys????
Considering he placed almost last in a 3rd tier show, I'd have to say...........last!
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Considering he placed almost last in a 3rd tier show, I'd have to say...........last!
Thank you, Thank you....I was trying to give him at least 2 over the last LoL.....
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Considering he not going in...I would say he wont place.
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Why isn't he going Bob?
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Considering he not going in...I would say he wont place.
Smart move...who told him not to go in...we must thank this person.....he just might have saved him from public humiliation!
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Thought he qualified?????
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I don't understand if he worked so hard why not compete? Could he use his qualification for next year's Olympia if he sits this one out? Is this a possibility?
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I don't understand if he worked so hard why not compete? Could he use his qualification for next year's Olympia if he sits this one out? Is this a possibility?
The fact is that he knows he is joke compared to the rest of the qualified men for this show....END OF STORY....
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smart move because he can't make the improvements from now till the Olympia to make a run at the top 10...
He needs a year to get back to a bodybuilding style of training, and work on weak points...
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I don't understand if he worked so hard why not compete? Could he use his qualification for next year's Olympia if he sits this one out? Is this a possibility?
No, qualifications are only for the year you qualified...except for the top 6 in the Olympia, who qualify automatically for the next year.
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smart move because he can't make the improvements from now till the Olympia to make a run at the top 10...
He needs a year to get back to a bodybuilding style of training, and work on weak points...
Bob, this isn't a personal deal with King, but how could he fix his high biceps? Is this just a genetic card he has to play with or what can he do to make them appear fuller?
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Why should he bother with the new blood coming in making him look totally stupid????I mean really he doesn't hold a candle to what bodybuilding will be in the next year and years to come.....By the way, that is not an opinion just the hard to handle truth........
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I'd like to hear how Bob thinks this could be fixed and if he will be working with him the next year?
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I'd like to hear how Bob thinks this could be fixed and if he will be working with him the next year?
Screw next year....Kamali doesn't even have the structure to compete with the guys up-and-coming ...He is a total joke and please tell me I wrong.....Only a blind man would judge different.....
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KIng does not use Synthol...
Chic,
Does he use esciline or any other site injection product?
Nope...
How do you know this?
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Screw next year....Kamali doesn't even have the structure to compete with the guys up-and-coming ...He is a total joke and please tell me I wrong.....Only a blind man would judge different.....
I agree, but I'm interested to see what they (Bob and King) think should be done.
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My God umpteen posts about King in the last week. This is freakin funny as hell. You guys really gotta get a life, SERIOUSLY. Someone call the WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMBULANCE . ;D ;D ;D
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Last or damn near it.
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My God umpteen posts about King in the last week. This is freakin funny as hell. You guys really gotta get a life, SERIOUSLY. Someone call the WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMBULANCE . ;D ;D ;D
Sorry, but as sad as it is....The placing was total bullshit....
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Chic,
Does he use esciline or any other site injection product?
How do you know this?
You've posted this umpteen times now...why?
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You've posted this umpteen times now...why?
We call bullshit where we see it Bob....Even you can agree.......
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You've posted this umpteen times now...why?
You put your credibility on the line when you make statements like that.
You assured us you know that King doesn't site inject. How do you know?
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You put your credibility on the line when you make statements like that.
You assured us you know that King doesn't site inject. How do you know?
Are you implying that the shoulders of Kamili look to be hold lots of fluid other than water?!
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Bob, what do you think that Kamali can possibly do to improve his possiblilities of getting closer to the olympia? And b completly realistic Chic, Kamali has abused HGH and slin to the point where his physique is going backwards not forwards.Y do I say that do u ask? Because his gut has gotten bigger and his arms and legs have gotten smaller. Ur right his chest is alright but his delts, arms, and legs as well, as his enourmous gut destroy his physique.So, as a winner of the "MASTERS" Olympia competition, how do u feel Kamali, with as bad of shape as he is in now, can firther his chances of being a top Olympia competitor.
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You put your credibility on the line when you make statements like that.
You assured us you know that King doesn't site inject. How do you know?
You asked if he used Escicline or any other site injection product, I said no...
I know because I'm best friends with King, thats how...
Escicline hasn't been made in years...and the only other site injection product to my knowledge is some form of Synthol.
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You asked if he used Escicline or any other site injection product, I said no...
I know because I'm best friends with King, thats how...
Escicline hasn't been made in years...and the only other site injection product to my knowledge is some form of Synthol.
So when many say that 90% of pros site inject... that isn't true?
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You asked if he used Escicline or any other site injection product, I said no...
I know because I'm best friends with King, thats how...
Escicline hasn't been made in years...and the only other site injection product to my knowledge is some form of Synthol.
Sooo, Bob being the good friends that you are did you talk Kamali into not doing the Olympia because he is a joke or was this an individual decision????
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I couldn't tell you what "90%" of the pro's do...
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Sooo, Bob being the good friends that you are did you talk Kamali into not doing the Olympia because he is a joke or was this an individual decision????
I didn't have to talk him into anything...it's the smart move at this point.
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I bet king breaks the top 10- anybody want to bet? PM me.
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I couldn't tell you what "90%" of the pro's do...
So if 90% of pros wanted the freedom to compete in other divisions... or if 90% of pros wanted judging reform... or if 90% of the pros wanted the athletes rep position to change yearly...
you wouldn't know that either?
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I didn't have to talk him into anything...it's the smart move at this point.
Wow Bob!!! That is one of the most intelligent things I have ever heard you say...I agree completely....Don't down play it either he really is a joke compared to the pros that will be at the Olympia......
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So if 90% of pros wanted the freedom to compete in other divisions... or if 90% of pros wanted judging reform... or if 90% of the pros wanted the athletes rep position to change yearly...
you wouldn't know that either?
If 90% of the pro's wanted to voice their opinion on any of those subjects...then 90% of the pro's should consider attending the athletes meeting coming up at the Olympia, where they can voice their opinions.
I guess we'll see how important any of those issues are to them, won't we?
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If 90% of the pro's wanted to voice their opinion on any of those subjects...then 90% of the pro's should consider attending the athletes meeting coming up at the Olympia, where they can voice their opinions.
I guess we'll see how important any of those issues are to them, won't we?
Yeah, I heard only 4 guys showed up for the last one. something about a leadership issue. who knows.
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If 90% of the pro's wanted to voice their opinion on any of those subjects...then 90% of the pro's should consider attending the athletes meeting coming up at the Olympia, where they can voice their opinions.
I guess we'll see how important any of those issues are to them, won't we?
The sad fact of it is Bob, that most pros would like to have an opinion about it, but they are scared to lose their contracts they solely live off of...Come on we all know this the truth...Quit blowing smoke Bob and take responsibility for what you know they want......
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They site inject their juice. Esicline can still be purchased on the black market. But, Synthol works better if you get it deep enough which too many guys - except Flex Wheeler - are/were too squeamish to do. Just plain juice works the best. Think about it, if Shari is doing 2000 mg a week of injectables (probably a whole lot more, you can multiply by what ever factor you want) depending on the potency of what he is taking, that could add up to a lot of oil per week. It is not so much the volume, but the irritation that makes the size difference. You want to put an inch an your arms in three days? stick a CC of Prop - deep, in the right place - into each head of your triceps and biceps.
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The sad fact of it is Bob, that most pros would like to have an opinion about it, but they are scared to lose their contracts they solely live off of...Come on we all know this the truth...Quit blowing smoke Bob and take responsibility for what you know they want......
Gimme a break...expressing their opinion in a athletes only meeting has absolutely nothing to do with a contract from a supplement company...
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Escicline hasn't been made in years...and the only other site injection product to my knowledge is some form of Synthol
Propinate has a similar efffect causing localised swelling, you can tell this useage as the muscles becomes rounder and smother compared to the hardness and crisper look of other muscle groups , it also gives of a glowing shinny effect in the used muscle group due to the imflamation !!
Most guys site inject if not for the mere purpose of changing injection areas to cut down on scar tissue build up !!!
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Propinate has a similar efffect causing localised swelling, you can tell this useage as the muscles becomes rounder and smother compared to the hardness and crisper look of other muscle groups , it also gives of a glowing shinny effect in the used muscle group due to the imflamation !!
Most guys site inject if not for the mere purpose of changing injection areas to cut down on scar tissue build up !!!
Knows his shit.
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Do your comments about "if you don't have it by now you won't have it by the next show" apply to King? I mean, for a pro he is seriously lacking structurally and also in terms of development of arms, calves, etc.
They apply to every BB on this planet.
There is a lot you can do, but changing one's structure is impossible.
Muscle seperation, increasing/ decreasing muscle, changes to training/ diet, changes in one's "supp program...can all lend to major improvements...
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They apply to every BB on this planet.
There is a lot you can do, but changing one's structure is impossible.
Muscle seperation, increasing/ decreasing muscle, changes to training/ diet, changes in one's "supp program...can all lend to major improvements...
Sooooo, In other words Kamali is screwed from a career in bodybuilding.......Becau se his structure is not top-pro material....And that is not just an opinion..........
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Chic I think King needs to stay tighter through out the year first and foremost (none of this cracking 300 stuff) plus he needs to stay of the scale during the dieting phase and come in at a weight that the mirror perdicts , and that i think would be 15lb apx lighter than he has been trying for !!
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Chic I think King needs to stay tighter through out the year first and foremost (none of this cracking 300 stuff) plus he needs to stay of the scale during the dieting phase and come in at a weight that the mirror perdicts , and that i think would be 15lb apx lighter than he has been trying for !!
Structural flaws prohibit this from happening...You know this....
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Fair enough. What would be a potential way to increase King's or any other pro's arm size without site inject/synthol? How would one change the training to create that illusion? I would think he would not train delts as much to start but I'm not sure what else a pro could do.
1. Decrease the shoulder size a little...
2. lighten up on the weight, allow for the biceps...AND ONLY THE BICEPS, to be worked more.
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Why doesn't he fly over and see milos????.
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1. Decrease the shoulder size a little...
2. lighten up on the weight, allow for the biceps...AND ONLY THE BICEPS, to be worked more.
Bob you know he is beyond repair admit it...He got lucky with the placement...The judges just had a hard on for the middle east is all.....At best that is.....
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Bob you know he is beyond repair admit it...He got lucky with the placement...The judges just had a hard on for the middle east is all.....At best that is.....
wouldn't that have worked AGAINST him??
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1. Decrease the shoulder size a little...
2. lighten up on the weight, allow for the biceps...AND ONLY THE BICEPS, to be worked more.
Don't forget the brachioradialis either... he need to fall in love with 12 inch width straght bar reverse curls pronto!
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I just want to point out that no one in support can give a valid reason why he placed over Wolf? Wolf had same size in most areas and more in some areas. Plus he CLEARLY beat King on conditioning. That's the bottom line, it doesn't matter what King did before or this week, the point here is that King's placement over Wolf is a major blow to bodybuilding and it's fanbase. People wonder why bodybuilding has lost it's fanbase over the years and how it's still diminishing. It all starts at the top. It's cool though, I guess the majority of bodybuilders are content with a teachers salary.
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I just want to point out that no one in support can give a valid reason why he placed over Wolf? Wolf had same size in most areas and more in some areas. Plus he CLEARLY beat King on conditioning. That's the bottom line, it doesn't matter what King did before or this week, the point here is that King's placement over Wolf is a major blow to bodybuilding and it's fanbase. People wonder why bodybuilding has lost it's fanbase over the years and how it's still diminishing. It all starts at the top. It's cool though, I guess the majority of bodybuilders are content with a teachers salary.
Sooooooo. Well put.....
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this muscle should be a priority...
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you would think a bodybuilder of all people would have some sort of understanding on growth, but apparently not in the IFBB.
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If he's skipping the Olympia, then why did he bother with the Montreal show? He just took an Olympia qualification away from Dennis Wolf -- a guy who it would have been good to see up on stage against the monsters.
Chick, do you know if he was contractually bound to compete in Montreal by Muscletech? Otherwise, I can't see why he would kill himself like that with the zero-carbs thing otherwise.
Special "Chicks Dig Me" Ed
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If he's skipping the Olympia, then why did he bother with the Montreal show? He just took an Olympia qualification away from Dennis Wolf -- a guy who it would have been good to see up on stage against the monsters.
Chick, do you know if he was contractually bound to compete in Montreal by Muscletech? Otherwise, I can't see why he would kill himself like that with the zero-carbs thing otherwise.
Special "Chicks Dig Me" Ed
Good point that he stole a deserved opportunity for Wolf!
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Kamali is skipping the Olympia because everyone knows he is JOKE....I have never felt more sure of a statement until now.......
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is it just me or am I the only always catching myself spelling his name as Kamili instead of Kamali?
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Kamali just needs to seek realistic instruction. Quit the the size game and shoot for asthetics. Hes gonna have to start from scratch and take a completely new approach to his training. I saw the back w/ a vengence DVD and saw 1st hand how bad his training is. There is no drug in the world that will make up for 1/2 assed training. The weights he chooses to use are way too heavy and he rarley does the full extention on any movement. His section in the pre-contest bible show that his approach to nutrition is insane! I mean this man eats more food in a day than i eat in three. He gets borderline obese in the offseason and it seriously effects the way he comes in come showtime. If he wants to be a pro bodybuilder, hes gonna have to change his approach to the sport. Invest in a trainer/nutritionist with a realistic work ethic. King needs to understand that hard work looks 100% better than drugs onstage.
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is it just me or am I the only always catching myself spelling his name as Kamili instead of Kamali?
You know what my bad for the miss-spelling....But, do I really think he deserves the correct spelling of his name???? No I really don't, He is a has-been that never will-be.....
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You know what my bad for the miss-spelling....But, do I really think he deserves the correct spelling of his name???? No I really don't, He is a has-been that never will-be.....
I think we should start a Kamali bashing thread!
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If he's skipping the Olympia, then why did he bother with the Montreal show? He just took an Olympia qualification away from Dennis Wolf -- a guy who it would have been good to see up on stage against the monsters.
Chick, do you know if he was contractually bound to compete in Montreal by Muscletech? Otherwise, I can't see why he would kill himself like that with the zero-carbs thing otherwise.
Special "Chicks Dig Me" Ed
King needed to prove to himself, that he could bring a much better physique to the table than the one he brought in Texas...placings were not in his control.
He would've been just as satisfied if he and Wolf were reversed...this wasn't about qualifying for the O, it was about being competitive in the top 5 again.
Also, there is no duplicating the last 48 hour contest prep at any other time during the offseason...a different approach was used, and it was very successful. I believe this approach will work best for King with the improvements he'll make in his training, for next years shows
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I think we should start a Kamali bashing thread!
Too Late to many already created over the years of his wanna-be pro-status......
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King needed to prove to himself, that he could bring a much better physique to the table than the one he brought in Texas...placings were not in his control.
He would've been just as satisfied if he and Wolf were reversed...this wasn't about qualifying for the O, it was about being competitive in the top 5 again.
Also, there is no duplicating the last 48 hour contest prep at any other time during the offseason...a different approach was used, and it was very successful. I believe this approach will work best for King with the improvements he'll make in his training, for next years shows
Bob, why are people now trying to fix this? How did this problem go on without anyone helping?!
Too Late to many already created over the years of his wanna-be pro-status......
More sarcasm...
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King needed to prove to himself, that he could bring a much better physique to the table than the one he brought in Texas...placings were not in his control.
He would've been just as satisfied if he and Wolf were reversed...this wasn't about qualifying for the O, it was about being competitive in the top 5 again.
Also, there is no duplicating the last 48 hour contest prep at any other time during the offseason...a different approach was used, and it was very successful. I believe this approach will work best for King with the improvements he'll make in his training, for next years shows
Bob, you and all of us know you are barking up a tree that will never grow...Yes, the judging was out of Kings hands....But, is was a blessing to the awesomely terrible physique he showed on display for us to endure....
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King is very worthy, Chicks right. I hope his new approach works great.
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King is very worthy, Chicks right. I hope his new approach works great.
Worthy of what I ask???? Of more reticule for structure flaws????Keep dick-licking my friend....
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King is very worthy, Chicks right. I hope his new approach works great.
He might be worthy of a top 5 placing at the Nationals!
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I hope it works out for King, I have nothing against him. All I say is the man should focus more on his work. I wish him the best though.
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He might be worthy of a top 5 placing at the Nationals!
Sorry, but the nationals this year would blow him out of the water.......
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Sorry, but the nationals this year would blow him out of the water.......
Not if he takes ANOTHER year off!
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Not if he takes ANOTHER year off!
What good would that do an already structure flawed "so-called" pro????
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What good would that do an already structure flawed "so-called" pro????
C'mon! Have a little faith, all he has to do is, tighten his waist up considerably not to mention more detail to his abs, bring more depth and detail to his back, bring up his calves considerably, find a way to stretch his biceps longer and add more fullness to them, and somehow build some detailish features in his shoulders. He also may want to start dieting further out from a show.
And that's it!
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C'mon! Have a little faith, all he has to do is, tighten his waist up considerably not to mention more detail to his abs, bring more depth and detail to his back, bring up his calves considerably, find a way to stretch his biceps longer and add more fullness to them, and somehow build some detailish features in his shoulders. He also may want to start dieting further out from a show.
And that's it!
Sounds like to much work to do for an already "has-been" pro, that should have never been......
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kamali's forearms suck... Hey Lee Give Kamali some pointers on training forearms
They are far past any help......
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Escicline hasn't been made in years...and the only other site injection product to my knowledge is some form of Synthol.
There's Nolotil. Even Chad N. has talked about it, said it worked best if the muscle was pumped a lot before going on stage.
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There's Nolotil. Even Chad N. has talked about it, said it worked best if the muscle was pumped a lot before going on stage.
I find it incredible that a man like bob, who has been around the sport for what, 27 years, has only heard of esciline (outdated) and synthol as the only two site injection products.
Bob, i admire you for avoiding the shady side of the sport all these years.
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I find it incredible that a man like bob, who has been around the sport for what, 27 years, has only heard of esciline (outdated) and synthol as the only two site injection products.
Bob, i admire you for avoiding the shady side of the sport all these years.
PLEASE....It is a luxury Bob has dismissed for years...Evernthough he has used it before....Trust me..... ;)
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Nolotil? A form of Esiclene or Synthol?
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Nolotil? A form of Esiclene or Synthol?
Synthnol...I didn't witness it , but I do know of the purchase....NON-taxed of course.....
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guys this has gone on too long,we need to make another thread about it.
there arent enough kamali threads atm ;D
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kamali's forearms suck... Hey Lee Give Kamali some pointers on training forearms
The guys with the best forearms hardly ever trained them. Tom Prince, Lee Priest, etc.
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The guys with the best forearms hardly ever trained them. Tom Prince, Lee Priest, etc.
they usually get worked enough when your doing back.i know frank mcgrath used to train his when he was younger though and hes got some of the best atm,i dont know if he still trains them now but he used to
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When your taking that much juice, youd think chokin the ol chickin would be suffice.
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Glaring structural flaws + Palumboism + Denial = the most delusional motherfuccker since Vince Goodrum.
Way to go, Shari!
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Alright Getbig brothers....Where do you think Kamali will place at the Olympia....I am guessing 14th at best....How about you guys????
Shaddup fuckO stop talking outta your azz guy
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Forearms on a whole have been neglected and underjudge. It seems glutes get more attention than forearms.. It would be great to see Jay with huge forearms. I think this Frank McGrath guy will raise the bar in forearm training. Its been a long time coming.
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I find it incredible that a man like bob, who has been around the sport for what, 27 years, has only heard of esciline (outdated) and synthol as the only two site injection products.
Bob, i admire you for avoiding the shady side of the sport all these years.
Well he said "to my knowledge", and it depends on how you define that. It could mean he heard of other injection products being used currently but has no real useful knowledge about the product like the scientiific name of the product, or how to use it or where to get it so therefore he doesn't really have any true knowledge, so therefore he really doesn't know.. Or it could mean to his knowledge now as a Bodybuilding Rep and not as a street bodybuilder anymore. So he may have had the knowledge at one time, but its been so long that it is perfectly safe to say he no longer has any real knowledge about these products so therefore he doesn't know. So he may just be telling the truth this time.
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Alright Getbig brothers....Where do you think Kamali will place at the Olympia....I am guessing 14th at best....How about you guys????
c'mon guys I tought you guys would at least know the guy is not even going to the O. If we're bashing him, let's at least keep up with what's goin on
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c'mon guys I tought you guys would at least know the guy is not even going to the O. If we're bashing him, let's at least keep up with what's goin on
why bash him anyway, its not nice.
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Alright Getbig brothers....Where do you think Kamali will place at the Olympia....I am guessing 14th at best....How about you guys????
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