If I win Mr.Getbig,
I will donate all my winnings to the homeless. At least they will have their protein and fat loss supplements and post workout shakes for the grueling cardio and cart-pushing they do.
They may be able to benefit more from them than I would since they do not eat.
Seppuku would be the honorable thing to do...
how much ice cream do you eat, what kind, and what brand?
You cannot find a more nutritious food as well as one that won`t effect your blood sugar levels. Nestles Carb Smart Ice cream has a GI index of only 7. All Ice Creams are acceptable though. Don`t waste your time with brown rice or oatmeal. They are worse for you and don`t provide as much nutrients at all. Here is more information for you: Enlighten yourselves:
http://www.onicecream.com/qa_index.html
Haha can you imagine magazines like Flex are fooling us for years with these brocolli chickenbreast brown rice diets. what a joke.
Are you just trying to get us all fat TA?
Are you just trying to get us all fat TA?
Do I look fat to you?No, you never did look fat to me, but that doesn't mean you are always eating ice cream silly. :)
You aren`t enlightened yet.
no, he's trying to preserve some muscle on that cross eyed boyfriend of yours.
No, you never did look fat to me, but that doesn't mean you are always eating ice cream silly. :)
once you expend more calories than you take in you will lose weight.
The only thing of interest is the quality of calories! sodium, cholesterol et all that have other side health ramifications than just losing weight. That is why you can have a skinny person with high blood person or high cholesterol level or clogged arteries.
most American focus on losing weigh through starvation and not through execerise which I think is TA's point. But I let him speak for himself.
On a different note, I spent last night reading a thread on the postwork out shake. TA, scientific evidence contradicts your point on this, but I digress
The best calories are the ones that taste good. That is how you measure quality. hahahahahah
Muscle building is too easy. This whole fucking thing is too easy.
Muscle building is too easy. This whole fucking thing is too easy.
So why are you still so puny?
so does that mean that if you don't win the mr. getbig that it is not easy?
and that someone has a better way?
Why are you still riding SQUAD jock?
You have just proved once again why you are SUCH poopydah's sweethormo. Tool.
I for one have been using the Team Adonis techniques for weeks now and have seen the best gains of my life.
Now I KNOW you're a useless idiot. I had just suspected it before.
Pure nonsense.
I can sense your jealousy. It must suck tipping the scales at 120 pounds. Enjoy being a skinny little bitch for the rest of your life.
Also, do not be afraid to eat Carb Only meals.
I do not know why you are scared to do so. Perhaps one of you ingrates can explain.
Eating Ice Cream as a meal by itself is totally Adonis approved and will restore much needed glycogen while not even elevating blood sugar levels.
Chewing gum would do more to your insulin sensitivity than eating a serving of Ice Cream for a snack or a meal.
Skinny? LOL. You keyboard cowboys amuse me with your junior high insults. Grow up, kid.
You would be suprised to learn that a few Pros follow The Adonis Principles and have PM`ed me with support. They would hate the secret to get out as they are contracted under supplement companies but know that they are full of shit. hahahahah
I`ll keep it private.
I can sense your jealousy. It must suck tipping the scales at 120 pounds. Enjoy being a skinny little bitch for the rest of your life.
Meltdown.
Don`t worry Berzerk, Tito is the type of guy who lugs around a gallon water jug and throws out his spice rack because he thinks that some paprika will interfere with his caloric needs...All of this and he doesn`t even workout or look like he does.
hahhahahahah
Don`t worry Berzerk, Tito is the type of guy who lugs around a gallon water jug and throws out his spice rack because he thinks that some paprika will interfere with his caloric needs...All of this and he doesn`t even workout or look like he does.hahahahahahaha, yes Adonis, he's the type of guy who buys 75lbs. of chicken breast at Sam's while the cashier rolls her eyes, monster delusions.
hahhahahahah
So TA, how do you keep lean? I have heard you say that you eat properly, but man ice cream and pizza is not exactly the healthiest. The same for you Jezz? Enlighten me, cause I workout hard but am nowhere near Jezz's level of ripped let alone yours TA. Seriously.
Here's some new pics of me from a couple of weeks ago. 5'10.5", 138-140 lbs, 27 yrs old ...even leaner now...;)
I have ICE CREAM at least once every day, along with chocolate candy, cake, whipped cream, etc. ;D Absolutely no effect. And I don't do any cardio. ;)
Adonis and I are gonna enjoy pizza and potato chips later tonight...It's way too easy!
So, you are saying that eating what I want and just working out hard will provide me with the tools to become ripped?
So, you are saying that eating what I want and just working out hard will provide me with the tools to become ripped?
these are all really great foods for your cholesterol levels as well ::)that's the biggest myth going, high cholesterol levels are 99 percent hereditary, it's about how much cholesterol your liver produces.
that's the biggest myth going, high cholesterol levels are 99 percent hereditary, it's about how much cholesterol your liver produces.
There's no reason why you shouldn't have pizza or ice cream If you want it, then just eat a little less of everything else throughout the day. As long as it adds up the same in the end, it doesn't matter where your calories are coming from. :)are you saying that "garraeth" is a glutton, Jezebelle?
Yes!
Pizza for dinner and a good Ice Cream cone!
Yes!
Pizza for dinner and a good Ice Cream cone!
hahah yah. Cholesterol is largley genetic. Diet is secondary...You will also find that while getting ripped,cholesterol levels will be low.
:)
Well, well, well now isn't this interesting....Get out!!! How can you see that?
Berzerk and TA have the exact SAME IP #s. So, it seems, they are the same person, or else two different people posting from the same computer or house. LOL! TA/Berzerk you're pathetic because you're basically talking to yourself.
monster sexual innuendo...lol
i guess if your not eating a bucket of icecream a night (and its low sugar, made with splenda bla blah) you'll be fine. lots of more quality calories out there though...but who gives a shit, ice cream taiste good
key is ..dont overeat+lift heavy ass weights=you'll get ripped
Well, well, well now isn't this interesting....
Berzerk and TA have the exact SAME IP #s. So, it seems, they are the same person, or else two different people posting from the same computer or house. LOL! TA/Berzerk you're pathetic because you're basically talking to yourself.
Wow Joey getting paid being fat :ohahahahaha, he must be rich then because he is one disgustingly fat bastard.
I guess Mentzer's "a calorie is a calorie" applies to TA and Jezzyyybelle.
TA and Jezzyyybelle.If you two are together how come there are no pics ??
If you two are together how come there are no pics ??
Jez, just a quick note to say you look really great in your avatar.
I guess Mentzer's "a calorie is a calorie" applies to TA and Jezzyyybelle.
Jez, just a quick note to say you look really great in your avatar.
new pics look good jez
i may adopt yours and TA's diet soon...
how can i fit peanut butter in there??? haha...
i guess it all boils down to portion control, some people have no control.
new pics look good jez
i may adopt yours and TA's diet soon...
how can i fit peanut butter in there??? haha...
i guess it all boils down to portion control, some people have no control.
Peanut butter fits perfect. We eat Almond butter instead.
I am going to have a Almond Butter and Jelly Sandwhich tommroow or tonite. Thats a damn good idea.
i'm going to have to switch to natural p/b huh? i usually only use it when trying to gain mass but i'm going to stay leaner this time. optimal timing for such food?
Here's some new pics of me from a couple of weeks ago. 5'10.5", 138-140 lbs, 27 yrs old ...even leaner now...;)
I have ICE CREAM at least once every day, along with chocolate candy, cake, whipped cream, etc. ;D Absolutely no effect. And I don't do any cardio. ;)
Adonis and I are gonna enjoy pizza and potato chips later tonight...It's way too easy!
Wow, you look fantastic.
Good job you guys, TA you got your girl looking lean and mean. 8)
TA, about portion control, when you have pizza, how many slices do you have? I know I should only eat about two, but I can easily eat six to eight, then throw in a couple beers and before you know it I have consumed 3000 calories at one sitting. Same goes with icecream, it's hard to only eat a half cup or so.
TA, about portion control, when you have pizza, how many slices do you have? I know I should only eat about two, but I can easily eat six to eight, then throw in a couple beers and before you know it I have consumed 3000 calories at one sitting. Same goes with icecream, it's hard to only eat a half cup or so.
You have to choose the right pizzas and ice creams.Pizza? :o :D
You can have the kinds you like though, you just have to know how much and when to stop.
You have to choose the right pizzas and ice creams.
You can have the kinds you like though, you just have to know how much and when to stop.
Pizza? :o :D
You got to make a simple choice sometimes.Who eats 150 grams of protein in one sitting?
Do I want a few slices of pizza or do I really want that extra 150 grams of protein that is going to go to waste anyways.
hahahahahahah
Sometimes thats one way you can eat pizza.
Well, well, well now isn't this interesting....
Berzerk and TA have the exact SAME IP #s. So, it seems, they are the same person, or else two different people posting from the same computer or house. LOL! TA/Berzerk you're pathetic because you're basically talking to yourself.
Ha ha! All joking aside, here is an article I wrote for one of the mags a few years back...
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/reform11.htm (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/reform11.htm)
You cannot find a more nutritious food as well as one that won`t effect your blood sugar levels. Nestles Carb Smart Ice cream has a GI index of only 7. All Ice Creams are acceptable though. Don`t waste your time with brown rice or oatmeal. They are worse for you and don`t provide as much nutrients at all. Here is more information for you: Enlighten yourselves:
http://www.onicecream.com/qa_index.html
The article was ok, but you have no reason to be concerned with the Sugars at all in ANY of those Ice Creams as they are all ULTRA LOW GI.
They will barely register a response so worrying about 3 grams of "sugar" is just plain stupid.
Even if it were regular Ice Cream, you would not have to worry much about sugar as it won`t have a negative effect either.
Perhaps a revision is necessary.
I'm not revising shit becasue 1. you're wrong and 2. I wrote it like three years ago ;D
Please post your diet. If you are getting that ripped on 3 meals a day including pizza and ice creme i am impressed.I guess it is whatever works for you. Jez is on the same diet and she looks mahhhhvelous.
Can't accept the truth, eh?
I guess it is whatever works for you. Jez is on the same diet and she looks mahhhhvelous.
Not really. There are many ways to get from A to B, but only one optimal way.True for most Yem. But it is quite obvious that Adam and Jez are different.
Not really. There are many ways to get from A to B, but only one optimal way.
All Ice Creams are acceptable though. Don`t waste your time with brown rice or oatmeal. They are worse for you and don`t provide as much nutrients at all.
Who eats 150 grams of protein in one sitting?
This simply isn't true.
For 100 grams respectively, brown rice (cooked) and ice cream:
Brown rice nutritious value, COOKED:
Water (g) 74.72
Energy (kcal) 98
Protein (g) 2.39
Fat, total (g) 0.7
Carbohydrate (g) 20.4
Sugars, total (g) 0.3
Fiber, total dietary (g) 1
Alcohol (g) 0
Cholesterol (mg) 0
Saturated fatty acids, total (g) 0.137
4:0 (g) 0
6:0 (g) 0
8:0 (g) 0
10:0 (g) 0
12:0 (g) 0.001
14:0 (g) 0.002
16:0 (g) 0.117
18:0 (g) 0.012
Monounsaturated fatty acids, total (g) 0.242
16:1 (g) 0.002
18:1 (g) 0.24
20:1 (g) 0
22:1 (g) 0
Polyunsaturated fatty acids, total (g) 0.262
18:2 (g) 0.239
18:3 (g) 0.022
18:4 (g) 0
20:4 (g) 0
20:5 n-3 (g) 0
22:5 n-3 (g) 0
22:6 n-3 (g) 0
Calcium (mg) 8
Copper (mg) 0.087
Iron (mg) 0.39
Magnesium (mg) 40
Phosphorus (mg) 88
Potassium (mg) 64
Selenium (mcg) 5.3
Sodium (mg) 501
Zinc (mg) 0.7
Vitamin A, RAE (mcg) 0
Vitamin C (mg) 0
Vitamin B-6 (mg) 0.124
Vitamin B-12 (mcg) 0
Vitamin B-12, added (mcg) 0
Vitamin E, alpha tocopherol (mg) 0.3
Vitamin E, added (mg) 0
Folate, DFE (mcg) 6
Folate, food (mcg) 6
Folate, total (mcg) 6
Folic acid (mcg) 0
Vitamin K (mcg) 0.5
Niacin (mg) 1.42
Retinol (mcg) 0
Riboflavin (mg) 0.029
Thiamin (mg) 0.075
Carotene, beta (mcg) 0
Carotene, alpha (mcg) 0
Cryptoxanthin, beta (mcg) 0
Lutein + zeaxanthin (mcg) 9
Lycopene (mcg) 0
Caffeine (mg) 0
Theobromine 0
Ice Cream:
Water (g) 59.8
Energy (kcal) 222
Protein (g) 4.1
Fat, total (g) 13
Carbohydrate (g) 22.2
Sugars, total (g) 21.16
Fiber, total dietary (g) 0.7
Alcohol (g) 0
Cholesterol (mg) 91
Saturated fatty acids, total (g) 7.48
4:0 (g) 0.39
6:0 (g) 0.23
8:0 (g) 0.13
10:0 (g) 0.3
12:0 (g) 0.34
14:0 (g) 1.24
16:0 (g) 3.36
18:0 (g) 1.47
Monounsaturated fatty acids, total (g) 3.49
16:1 (g) 0.27
18:1 (g) 3.22
20:1 (g) 0
22:1 (g) 0
Polyunsaturated fatty acids, total (g) 0.45
18:2 (g) 0.28
18:3 (g) 0.18
18:4 (g) 0
20:4 (g) 0
20:5 n-3 (g) 0
22:5 n-3 (g) 0
22:6 n-3 (g) 0
Calcium (mg) 131
Copper (mg) 0.03
Iron (mg) 0.21
Magnesium (mg) 12
Phosphorus (mg) 116
Potassium (mg) 177
Selenium (mcg) 3
Sodium (mg) 61
Zinc (mg) 0.52
Vitamin A, RAE (mcg) 162
Vitamin C (mg) 0.8
Vitamin B-6 (mg) 0.048
Vitamin B-12 (mcg) 0.5
Vitamin B-12, added (mcg) 0
Vitamin E, alpha tocopherol (mg) 0.61
Vitamin E, added (mg) 0
Folate, DFE (mcg) 9
Folate, food (mcg) 9
Folate, total (mcg) 9
Folic acid (mcg) 0
Vitamin K (mcg) 0.9
Niacin (mg) 0.095
Retinol (mcg) 159
Riboflavin (mg) 0.182
Thiamin (mg) 0.049
Carotene, beta (mcg) 30
Carotene, alpha (mcg) 5
Cryptoxanthin, beta (mcg) 5
Lutein + zeaxanthin (mcg) 151
Lycopene (mcg) 0
Caffeine (mg) 0
Theobromine 0
This is an example, that even despite being lower in calories, in many cases, brown rice has more nutrients in it. And there virtually no cholestorol or saturated fat.
YIP
Zack
I'm not revising shit becasue 1. you're wrong and 2. I wrote it like three years ago ;D
You may have already done this, but what kinds do you recommend? Are there certain brands you look for
Not in one sitting. Just X it out of your diet completely for a day if you want to eat pizza,if you want to do it that way.
You think one day of missing your Monster over abundance of protein that is going to get wasted is going to have any effect on you?
You shouldn`t be eating that much protein anyway.
Agree on the protein needs for someone of Cheri Lane's size.
YIP
Zack
For anyones size.
It makes no difference if you get high protein. You don`t even need 1 gram per lb of bodyweight.
Just a load of bullshit packaged and sold to you people. To this day there is no conclusive study that a High Protein diet has any beneficial effect in terms of muscle mass. Nothing Conclusive at all.
You don`t even need 1 gram per lb of bodyweight.
Adonis, some simple questions............
1.Have you ever competed in a bodybuilding competition?
2.Have you ever competed in a powerlifting competition?
3.What do you do for a living?
4..Do you have a college degree? Is your degree in something like nutrition or exercise physiology or even anything remotely similar?
5.Are you currently or where you ever an athlete? Meaning at an admirable level dont want to hear that you were part of the JV swim team in highschool.
6.Have you accomplished anything noteworthy in your life?
7.Do you own a home, have a wife, children?
8.Do you still live with your parents?
9.How many hours per day do you spend on the internet?
10.What has bodybuilding done for you in your life?
11.How does being a psuedo intellect and posting nonsensical ramblings benefit your life in anyway?
12.How does posting pictures of yourself posing on the internet benefit your life in anyway?
13.Do you see a psychiatrist?
M E L T D O W Nhahaha, can you imagine the anger and emotion that went into that post, "leland" is probably a fat loser who eats tuna in water and celery and is still fat, hahahaha, it's too damn easy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hahaha, can you imagine the anger and emotion that went into that post, "leland" is probably a fat loser who eats tuna in water and celery and is still fat, hahahaha, it's too damn easy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For anyones size.
It makes no difference if you get high protein. You don`t even need 1 gram per lb of bodyweight.
Just a load of bullshit packaged and sold to you people. To this day there is no conclusive study that a High Protein diet has any beneficial effect in terms of muscle mass. Nothing Conclusive at all.
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1165731
http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/131/7/2014
http://www.jacn.org/cgi/content/abstract/23/suppl_6/601S
http://www.cc.jyu.fi/~jjhulmi/Manninen33.pdf#search=%22high%20protein%20diet%20muscle%20size%20pubmed%22
http://erj.ersjournals.com/cgi/content/full/22/46_suppl/52S
http://www.pubmedcentral.com/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1501119
"During growth on the inadequate diet protein synthesis rates were lesss than in controls, but growth occurred because of decreased rates of protein breakdown. This compression was not complete, however, since ultimate muscle size was only one-half that of controls. It is suggested that increased rates of protein breakdown are a necessary accompaniment to muscle growth and may result from the way in which myofibrils proliferate"
"at which point 35% CP resulted in a consistent positive change in body weight compared with birds fed all other diets (P < 0.05"
"the use of a protein-calorie supplement was associated with greater strength and muscle mass gains than did the use of placebo."
I think I get it now...
I got into this type of condition on the follow program:
Meal 1: 1cp. Fruit Loops cereal w/ 1cp skim milk (raw)
Meal 2: 6-8 chocolate chip, banana, peanut butter pancakes
Meal 3: 4 slices of meat lovers pizza (Pizza Hut)
Meal 4: 1 cp chocolate ice cream mixed w/ 2 Tbsp. of almond butter
Meal 5: 2 Tbsp. of cashew/macademia butter
No cardio; weights 2-3 times per week; sleep 3-4 hours/night.
If you know what you're doing it's easy.
How do you restore glycogen without elevating blood sugar levels? If you can indeed do this, please get your research published!
How much T3 and clen were you using?
For anyones size.
It makes no difference if you get high protein. You don`t even need 1 gram per lb of bodyweight.
Just a load of bullshit packaged and sold to you people. To this day there is no conclusive study that a High Protein diet has any beneficial effect in terms of muscle mass. Nothing Conclusive at all.
I've got a large binder full of research published in journal articles on protein intake and it's effects on the body and exercise, as well as growth. In every single one, the groups that had higher protein intake always performed better and gained more lean muscle mass. Funny, I don't seem to recall ever coming across anything you've published in a scientific or medical peer reviewed journal ???
If you're intaking less calories than you're burning, and you're working out, of course you're going to stay lean and still see some gains. Your body is going to be forced to use whatever it can to repair your muscles. When I was 120 pounds and hardly eating anything, once I started eating more and hitting the gym, I got lean and added size rapidly. But that ended once my body finally hit equilibrium. Once I started intaking a lot of protein, juggled my meal timing and my carbs and worked out hard, I made even greater gains, had better workouts, and got the leanest I've ever been. Eating pizza and ice cream can work, but it is not the best or most efficient way to lean out or add size.
Another huge factor in this is genetics. How easily you lean out or add fat, as well as carb sensitivity, plays a huge role in what diet will work for you and what won't. I have a friend who weighs probly 160 soaking wet at about 6' 2". He is the crappiest eater I have ever seen. I have watched him down multiple bacon cheeseburgers, two 2 liters of Mountain Dew, a box of brownie bites, and a pizza all in aboutone and a half to two hours. And he never gains a pound. He added a little weight when he worked out, but no matter how he eats or how much, he is always lean. He's been like that his entire life. He's like super-ecto.
Advocating that people switch to diets of ice cream and pizza is just irresponsible. It's wonderful that you can eat like that and stay lean. Congratulations on good genetics. But it is undeniable that for people who are not so lucky, this diet would be harmful for their health. Many people who are fat may be genetically predisposed to being that way, but that doesn't mean that with proper diet and nutrition that they can't overcome that. Eating pizza, ice cream and potato chips is not going to help them overcome.
Adonis ,I don't like pizza ,ice cream ,chips or peanut butter ,what shoul I do? ???
Eat healthy.according to anus ,eating healthy ,doesn't work ,"CHAMP '':-\
according to anus ,eating healthy ,doesn't work ,"CHAMP '':-\
Adonis ur schtick is getting old---------------but on the other hand u are getting the attention u so desperatly crave
TA's next diet fad will most likely be to eat everything raw and unprocessed.Like he's really doing it ::)
This junk food diet of his won't last all that long, I think he's reconsidering it already.
YIP
Zack
Just ate a double Fudge Chocolate cake slice for meal 5.
We went to the store and bought Oreos,Krispy Kremes,Geneva cookies and Pizzas and some Red Velvet cake and smoked Gouda cheese and some crackers.
These will be essential for tomorrow and the upcoming days.
The upcoming days? What, are you going to be in a weed smoking competition and you need to make sure you have enough munchies for the whole thing? That shopping list is ridiculous. Deliscious, but ridiculous. Thank your mom and dad for your genetics ;)
No,
But meal number one tomorrow is one scoop of whey,Krispy Kreme Doughnut and a few Oreo cookies. hahhahhah
No,
But meal number one tomorrow is one scoop of whey,Krispy Kreme Doughnut and a few Oreo cookies. hahhahhah
No,
But meal number one tomorrow is one scoop of whey,Krispy Kreme Doughnut and a few Oreo cookies. hahhahhah
Instead of wasting your money on protein powder and other supplements.Oh, that's right. We should buy ice cream instead ::)
Invest it in some good solid Ice Cream.
No,my god I thought u were throwing out all your protein jugs---------LIAR
But meal number one tomorrow is one scoop of whey,Krispy Kreme Doughnut and a few Oreo cookies. hahhahhah
The joke is up idiot.. 8)drum roll please.
Tommrrows meal plan is going to be 2 or 3 meals at MCdonalds and maybe one scoop of protein and an ice cream, I think.
Tonite I am debating Coldstone,some pizza chips and oreos for dinner.
Oh my decisions.
how about everyone put him on ignore.
Oh, and anybody can get ripped eating ice cream, mcdonals, burger king, fried food, etc while using T3 and clenbuterol.
Actually, Adonis has been doing his studies and pretty much is picking on some old Arthur Jones principles. I remember him stating that diet and nutrition was all about calories and water.
Now, Adonis may sound crazy but I actually think otherwise. I did some research and interesting enough I found that Sergio's diet mainly consisted of banana pancakes, pizza, and Coca-Cola (not diet...the good stuff) yet he trained extremely hard and those extra calories paid off.
My fellow former Team McFarland comrade is actually on to a number of points
that only works with drugs
Jealous.
What are you going to say when I mantain my leaness and get leaner and leaner?
Same with Jezebelle.
hahahahahah Jealous.
You cannot find a more nutritious food as well as one that won`t effect your blood sugar levels. Nestles Carb Smart Ice cream has a GI index of only 7. All Ice Creams are acceptable though. Don`t waste your time with brown rice or oatmeal. They are worse for you and don`t provide as much nutrients at all. Here is more information for you: Enlighten yourselves:
http://www.onicecream.com/qa_index.html
It has nothing to do with jealous. It's the fact that you shove all this in everybody's face when it's clearly incorrect for natural bodybuilders. What you propose will work for drug users, but not natural.
This is TA's entire diet from a year ago:
http://www.musclemayhem.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25889 (http://www.musclemayhem.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25889)
Quite different to say the least.
As you can see, I have tried the traditional bullshit.
I got lean,but weak and it was stupid. You can see there was no error.
I would never do this type of diet ever again. It is pointless and would never reccommend it to anyone.
What I do now is superior.
Ahh,I feel the warmth of the metabolism increasing ALL the time. I love it. Been waking up in the middle of the night sometimes in a light sweat. Oh I get hungry at times. I do eat every 2-3 hours so that takes care of that. Plus I down alot of diet drinks which take the edge off of hunger. I check the scale everyday as soon as I wake up in the morning with no fluids.
Im right where I want to be losing about 1-1.5 lbs a week.
So everything is perfect.
Cardio is gonna be a mixture of wind sprints and 30 minute sessions at lower intensity.
So far,Iv`e got all bases covered. Things are working great. The best thing I did was,diet down last year. I`m so far ahead of where I was last year and have ALOT more muscle as I don`t have to diet long at all!
Regardless, what you're doing seems to be working for you, which is great. I'm happy that you're getting the results you want from your diet and training, and hope you see continued success. But because it works for you, doesn't mean that it is the one true way and nothing else works. You obviously saw results when you wanted to lose weight and went the contest diet route. And there are thousands and thousands of other people who have done something completely different than you have and gotten in great shape, because they were doing what worked for them. Finding what works for you doesn't make it the "one true way" in bodybuilding and everything else a lie; it is just one more path among many to that ideal physique that all of us seek.
TA, do you intend on having a BF check to determine your LBM? I'd like to see it now and then compare it to a few months from now if your still doing the same diet...
I am in the single digits right now and getting leaner.Adonis, dont you think you'll get a better "WOW" factor if you hold your pics till competetion ?
I sure will get my BF tested. I will be posting picture weekly as well just to show you.
I think the visual aspect will be more important.
I am in the single digits right now and getting leaner.
I sure will get my BF tested. I will be posting picture weekly as well just to show you.
I think the visual aspect will be more important.
Adonis, dont you think you'll get a better "WOW" factor if you hold your pics till competetion ?
How many times have we seen a BBs progress leading up to a show and leaves little for any surprise cause we already knew what they looked like..
I am beyond that competiton. I intend to show people a different and better approach. There is no failure in progress.I think it would be classic if you took pics of you dumping out all of the first place supplements (if you do win) and post pics here. First place gets more supplements than anyone could need, and they are all type of shit no one buys anyway..(thats why they are giving them out !) hahah
which Ellington Darden book did you read to come up with your theories....since you pretty much quote him word for word ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Breakfast today was Skim Milk,Krispy Kreme and Oreos.yes!!!!!! this new diet is giving me tons of energy and i am getting more vascular by the day.
In 3 hours I will have Pizza. Then Marinated Tuna.
I haven`t figured out if I am going to have a Subway sandwhich or a Big Mac later.
I`ll figure it out.
I woke up a 1lb lighter. I am at the leanest I have ever been. Still continuing to lose.
I will be posting my daily diet and keep it running just to show you what can be done with ingenuity and genius.
I am going to make this shit easy for anyone to follow.
Last nights workout was great! Did back. Tons of energy, and am able to go heavy on all sets for lots of reps.
I also did a lot of sets like usual.
Stay tuned for more!!
yes!!!!!! this new diet is giving me tons of energy and i am getting more vascular by the day.
i spilt some ice cream between the stove and a cupboard a few days ago...figured id clean it up later or leave it for the cat or ants
i guess they couldnt get to it and i noticed it was still the same shape sitting hard on the floor...4 days later. this made me wonder what happens to it in my inners and how my arteries are movin that shit
I really hope some teenage kids arn't reading garbage like this and thinking its real. The jokes over Adonis. Give it up.
But ... if you are telling the truth and you are eating this way then prepare yourself for a heart attack. You attack people on the gear, yet you stuff yourself with big macs, cookies and ice cream. Bizzare.
I doubt very much
I really hope some teenage kids arn't reading garbage like this and thinking its real. The jokes over Adonis. Give it up.
But ... if you are telling the truth and you are eating this way then prepare yourself for a heart attack. You attack people on the gear, yet you stuff yourself with big macs, cookies and ice cream. Bizzare.
I don't believe anything adonis says...sorry, I'd bet he's f'n with people, trying to screw with guys that are doing the MGB. Y'know someone who's doing fine eating like they are are going to read this and go "maybe this will work for me" and blow thier condition. I'm not saying this is waht is happening but I wouldn't discount it either.
Mind games are all in a days work for adonis, remember that.
are you calling me a lier?
Please check out the new Mythbuster Board(Formerly the Y Board).
I am posting my daily diet there. I am for real and will be as candid as I wish.
I'm not saying I believe you or not I'm just saying I'd approach anything you say with caution....admit it's not above you to mess with people and screw with thier minds, nothing wrong with it..arnold did it for years, I'm just saying that I believe you do this and sometimes it's hard to tell if you're telling the truth or messing with people.
I'm gonna buy myself some ben and jerries this weekend, i heard it's good stuff.Yes it is a cornerstone in anyone's diet who plans on loosing weight !!
Yes it is a cornerstone in anyone's diet who plans on loosing weight !!
Eat your dry chicken breasts and Brocolli.Maybe you should apply theroies based from an ectomorph body type to represent those mesomorphs, Ive been eating my fair share of "regualr" foods still, just in moderation..nothing new.
I will eat hamburgers and cookies and be leaner and stronger.
In fact. I am leaner right now than you. Perhaps all that protein you are eating is a waste.
Maybe you should apply theroies based from an ectomorph body type to represent those mesomorphs, Ive been eating my fair share of "regualr" foods still, just in moderation..nothing new.
I had a slice of pizza for breakfast on the weekend. I had a cookie yesterday too! And on Sunday I enjoyed some Coldstone... ;D ;D
Adonis why do you drink skim milk if you are to eat icecream. I prefer 2% milk. 2 grams of fat won't do anything and it tastes way better too.2% doesnt mean 2 grams of fat alexxx...more like 9 grams per cup
Adonis why do you drink skim milk if you are to eat icecream. I prefer 2% milk. 2 grams of fat won't do anything and it tastes way better too.
2% doesnt mean 2 grams of fat alexxx...more like 9 grams per cup
I like all Milks.I'm confused. How long have you been following this diet Adam? Did you just start with the ice cream, burgers and pizza? Why are you using skim in recipes?
From whole to skim. We had skim to spare because we use it in many recipes and will not let it go to waste.
I'm confused. How long have you been following this diet Adam? Did you just start with the ice cream, burgers and pizza? Why are you using skim in recipes?
I think he makes his own home made junk foods so that they will contain the amount of calories he needs.
I don`t think I could make a Krispy Kreme Doughnut if I tried!
LOL.
Good thing is, they were invented in Winston Salem, NC and are baked fresh daily. Winston is like 10 minutes away,so I get the freshest doughnuts.
What do you have on cheat days? Chicken and brown rice?lmao
How can you be sure of the product label and what kind of hidden agents go inside those products?
So Adonis, you live in NC?
What's NC?North Carolina....Home of Duke, Tarheels, and Tobacco
lol...are some people really taking this seriously?That was just a small phase leading to what I have been doing. All in the Principles.
a couple of weeks ago he posted that his diet consisted of some fiber one w/milk for meal one...a piece of fruit with meal 2.
and the rest of the day was NO carbs.
he also cracked on chick for including about 200g of carbs in his diet.
so i guess sometime in the last week or two he decided to go on a junk food binge.
one thing is for sure...if your diet consists of ice cream, pizza, burgers, cookies, ect....YOU WILL GET FAT.
if you happen to have a fast metablolism/ high insulin sensitivity such as TA seems to have, it make take a little while for it to catch up with you but in the end....YOU WILL GET FAT...lol
First off, Research and Development at Krispy Kreme is top notch for ingredients. Hidden Agents? Don`t make me laugh Alexxx. There is no such thing as a hidden agent.
The American FDA is VERY VERY VERY strict on mantaining accurate label claims,the best int eh entire world.By FEDERAL LAW they have to get it right. and will fine or shut down any company not meeting label claims within a VERY small percentage.
You see Alexxx,supplements are different. They aren`t regulated by the FDA at all so they can be all Fucked.
Supplements are stupid.
Ok I agree about the protein powders.
Here is something to make you reconsider soft drinks and baked goods.
ACESULFAME-K... Artificial sweetener: Baked goods, chewing gum, gelatin desserts, soft drinks.
This artificial sweetener, manufactured by Hoechst, a giant German chemical company, is widely used around the world. It is about 200 times sweeter than sugar. In the United States, for several years acesulfame-K (the K is the chemical symbol for potassium) was permitted only in such foods as sugar-free baked goods, chewing gum, and gelatin desserts. In July 1998, the FDA allowed this chemical to be used in soft drinks, thereby greatly increasing consumer exposure.
The safety tests of acesulfame-K were conducted in the 1970s and were of mediocre quality. Key rat tests were afflicted by disease in the animal colonies; a mouse study was several months too brief and did not expose animals during gestation. Two rat studies suggest that the additive might cause cancer. It was for those reasons that in 1996 the Center for Science in the Public Interest urged the FDA to require better testing before permitting acesulfame-K in soft drinks. In addition, large doses of acetoacetamide, a breakdown product, have been shown to affect the thyroid in rats, rabbits, and dogs. Hopefully, the small amounts in food are not harmful.
Here is an index of all food additives and their effects:
http://www.cspinet.org/reports/chemcuisine.htm
Just had my 2nd meal of the day.it's too easy!!! i just had a couple of ice cream sandwiches with breakfast and i'm going to substitute some Ruffles potato chips for regular potatoes later on, too damn easy.
Old world Italian,Palermo style Pizza.
It gets easier and easier.
it's too easy!!! i just had a couple of ice cream sandwiches with breakfast and i'm going to substitute some Ruffles potato chips for regular potatoes later on, too damn easy.
That is a solid plan.i never dreamed it could be this tasty and easy, the key is to just keep the portions under control and you're fine, this is key.
Potato Chips are better than eating them baked or in the Microwave.
So you have only been on this "diet" for a few (2-3) weeks? Where's my menu pal? Still skeptic.
So ben and jerries is a great option Adonis?
I need to also recognize Jezebelle for being VERY instrumental in developing the principles with me. She is a genius in all areas. She will also be contributing information and insight. She looks phenomenal and is proof of the Principles.
These Principles are not gender specific and should be used by males and females alike.
Hahahahah Thanks sweetie!
I have been eating whatever foods I want, whenever I want - in moderation - for 6 or 7 years now...actually my entire life, but thats when I started lifting. :) At first I worried too much about protein, but I've NEVER worried about carbs. I'd feel awful if I did the low carb thing, so I don't even waste my time.
I listen to my body and simply eat when I'm hungry, and I usually know when to stop. I've never tracked my calories, I just I keep in mind what I've eaten up to that point during the day so I have an idea of what I have left.
I probably get somewhere between 1600-2200 calories a day. I think I'm one of those people that require more calories/carbs, as is Adonis. Plus, I don't like to feel like crap in the gym. :) And if my calories vary day to day, its fine, because the lower days make up for the higher. I look at it on a longer term.
This has always worked for me - I think I'm pretty lean -and- I FEEL much better than those carb-deprived dieters.
Anyway, do what works for you, just don't deprive yourself. There are ways to work anything into your diet. ;)
Seriously kid what is the matter with you?jealous, bitter, frustrated meltdown.
Some brilliant Adonis quotes....
1."First off, Research and Development at Krispy Kreme is top notch for ingredients"
Research and Development lol WTF
do you think Krispy Kreme is like Bristol-Myers Squibb I'm sure there is groundbreaking research being done at Krispy Kreme on their cutting edge ingredients like flour, sugar, baking powder, cooking oil, milk, salt, and eggs.
2."I need to also recognize Jezebelle for being VERY instrumental in developing the principles with me. She is a genius in all areas."
No clue who you are referring to, but like you I'm guessing she has no formal training and has done zero scientific research. Perhaps you two should submit your great ideas to the New England Journal of Medicine.
3."My theories are pulled from all theories. They also come from Science,Biology,Nutrition"
No they come from some uneducated kid who may or may not have some psychological issues, has no education, is a psudeo intelluctual, and seems to spend his entire life on the internet. Something scientific would read more like this and actually have what is known as REFERENCES.......
Lemon, PW. 1996. Is increased dietary protein necessary or beneficial for individuals with a physically active lifestyle? Nut Rev, 54(4 of 2): S169-75.
When the body is in a catabolic state because of strength training, endurance training, stress, trauma, etc., protein needs increase due to the degradation and loss of protein stores within the body. In a normal state, the body is in equilibrium such that protein breakdown is replaced with protein intake to achieve nitrogen balance. If protein breakdown is greater than intake, negative nitrogen balance is the result. Thus, protein loss occurs and may lead to muscle wasting and a decrease in strength and performance. On-the-other-hand, positive nitrogen balance occurs when protein intake exceeds protein excretion and this is essential for growth (Lemon, 1996).
I see you skipped over my little questionare from a few pages back. I guess the answers really are that pathetic......good luck finding reality and turning your life around!
Seriously kid what is the matter with you?
Some brilliant Adonis quotes....
1."First off, Research and Development at Krispy Kreme is top notch for ingredients"
Research and Development lol WTF
do you think Krispy Kreme is like Bristol-Myers Squibb I'm sure there is groundbreaking research being done at Krispy Kreme on their cutting edge ingredients like flour, sugar, baking powder, cooking oil, milk, salt, and eggs.
2."I need to also recognize Jezebelle for being VERY instrumental in developing the principles with me. She is a genius in all areas."
No clue who you are referring to, but like you I'm guessing she has no formal training and has done zero scientific research. Perhaps you two should submit your great ideas to the New England Journal of Medicine.
3."My theories are pulled from all theories. They also come from Science,Biology,Nutrition"
No they come from some uneducated kid who may or may not have some psychological issues, has no education, is a psudeo intelluctual, and seems to spend his entire life on the internet. Something scientific would read more like this and actually have what is known as REFERENCES.......
Lemon, PW. 1996. Is increased dietary protein necessary or beneficial for individuals with a physically active lifestyle? Nut Rev, 54(4 of 2): S169-75.
When the body is in a catabolic state because of strength training, endurance training, stress, trauma, etc., protein needs increase due to the degradation and loss of protein stores within the body. In a normal state, the body is in equilibrium such that protein breakdown is replaced with protein intake to achieve nitrogen balance. If protein breakdown is greater than intake, negative nitrogen balance is the result. Thus, protein loss occurs and may lead to muscle wasting and a decrease in strength and performance. On-the-other-hand, positive nitrogen balance occurs when protein intake exceeds protein excretion and this is essential for growth (Lemon, 1996).
I see you skipped over my little questionare from a few pages back. I guess the answers really are that pathetic......good luck finding reality and turning your life around!
Scare tactics Alexxx.
Besides all those can be found in your beloved Protein Powders. They aren`t bad at all.
Go to www.snopes.com and look up artificial sweeteners. Start there and then go more scientific. Find studies that aren`t biased or have an agenda.
Sweeteners are not bad. If you are in doubt, just go with real sugar then like I do.
Don`t see a problem in your questioning.
jealous, bitter, frustrated meltdown.
Define jealousy? Better yet, how can one be jealous of someone who has accomplished nothing?you're so blinded by Flex magazine's "diet tips" and your own 30 percent bodyfat from those methods that you can't see anything but hate.
North Carolina....Home of Duke, Tarheels, and Tobacco
Haha what the hell is going on here.
Haha what the hell is going on here.you are witnessing bodybuilding "diet" myths being smashed and destroyed by Adonis and Jezebelle, they are literally rewriting the book.
Haha what the hell is going on here.Eh, we're all just chewing the fat. ;D
Interesting website. Apple seeds contain cyonide! Damn, I have been eating them purposefully for all of these years lol!
But you still can't deny the fact about the documentary Supersize Me and the effects fast food had on him after a month.
you are witnessing bodybuilding "diet" myths being smashed and destroyed by Adonis and Jezebelle, they are literally rewriting the book.
Well since I had a fat free ice cream bar and a bag of pretzels for breakfast count me in!yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! both are very low GI carbs, this is key.
Eh, we're all just chewing the fat. ;D
But what about the transfats into the mac food?another myth, everything in moderation Mars.
yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! both are very low GI carbs, this is key.
TOTAL BULLSHIT!
You can eat VERY healthy at Mcdonalds.
It was all shock value with biased editing.
The grocery store actually contains way worse foods than McDonalds. See what I am getting at.
Then again, there is no such thing as a bad food. Layne Norton will even tell you that.
But I am always amazed at how sheepish people are when they see that Shithole of a movie.
Its totally fake.
I can eat at Mcdonalds everyday if I wanted to and be extremely healthy. Its all a matter of knowing what you need to eat versus what you don`t.
Well since I had a fat free ice cream bar and a bag of pretzels for breakfast count me in!
Yes! That's what the big problem is - everyone has created this stigma about foods that taste good. But nowadays, you can find any food in a healthier version.
I didn't see that movie but heard of the amazing results.
There were no results. I have eaten way more then he ever will in my bulking days and nothing bad happened to me.
Complete garbage meant for shock value.
What do you associate his fat and cholesterol gains to?
There were no results. I have eaten way more then he ever will in my bulking days and nothing bad happened to me.
Complete garbage meant for shock value.
One who drills exclusively to a set pattern is losing his freedom. He is actually becoming a slave to a choice pattern and feels that the pattern is the real thing. It leads to stagnation because the way of combat is never based on personal choice and fancies, but constantly changes from moment to moment, and the disappointed combatant will soon find out that his "choice routine" lacks pliability. There must be a "being" instead of a "doing" in training. One must be free. Instead of complexity of form, there should be simplicity of expression.
11. My results. When my doctor saw that I had consumed an average of 120 grams of fat per day (49 saturated), he told me I'd been on a "widow-maker" diet. He said, "Well, let's see what kind of damage you've done here." Then he measured the results: I lost 12 pounds. My body-fat percentage dropped four points. Triglyerides stood at 83. Blood pressure stayed the same. Cholesterol, a slight dip from 230 to 220, although my HDL had gone down to 48 from 60 -- but even the doctor admitted that could be because I had given up my evening glass of red wine during the diet. When he reviewed all the results, he said, "I don't think I like what you're proving here."[/color]12. My next diet. Because the saturated fat / cholesterol issue is so controversial, I spent another month on a no-starch, no-sugar diet that was essentially a saturated-fat pigout: lots of double-cheeseburgers without buns, polish sausages, bacon, eggs, butter, cheese, cream, marbled steaks, coconut oil, etc. The results? My total cholesterol dropped to 209, my HDL went back up to 64, LDL dropped to 130, and my triglycerides dropped to 75. I also lost a couple of pounds, despite the high calorie content, and my body fat dropped another point.
Good post babe, what's that from?
August 16, 2006
The anti Supersize Me movie from the horse's mouth.
Since there were so many comments and questions about the anti Supersize Me movie that MD and were interviewed for and that I posted about last week, I asked the filmmaker, Tom Naughton, if he would write up a brief of what he is trying to do with the movie. He agreed. Here is his overview of his film and his own weight loss efforts.
Well, it's interesting to see how emotional people can become when you mention the word "McDonald's." For my next film I may tackle something less controversial, such as the Iraq war or school prayer.
Several posters asked what direction this film will take. Like "Super Size Me," my film will be a humorous documentary. Spurlock's film was definitely amusing and well-constructed. Unfortunately, I believe he gave the audience a lot of misleading information along with the laughs. I plan to give my audience good information along with the laughs. I believe some of the laughs will be Super-Sized.
This film will NOT portray McDonald's food as health food. It isn't. (I also ate at other fast-food restaurants during my month-long diet, but mostly McDonald's.) But because of changes in the American lifestyle, people are going to eat at fast-food restaurants, like it or not. So part of my goal in this movie is to show how a person can eat fast food without getting fat and suffering other health consequences.
I haven't made final decisions on exactly which scenes to include, but I can certainly describe the highlights, in no particular order:
1. My diet history. I tried vegetarianism, Fit for Life, Pritikin -- all colossal failures. But I've had success with The Zone, Protein Power, Atkins -- all low-carb diets to some degree.
2. My fast-food diet plan: based on my diet history, I aimed for about 2000 calories and reasonably low carbs (about 100 per day, as it turns out ... not really low, but hardly high.)
3. Spurlock Nonsense. If he followed his own self-proclaimed "rules," he could not have consumed 5,000 calories per day; I've done the math. He won't release his food log, despite numerous requests from journalists, and I'm convinced it's because that log would reveal him as a fraud. If you've seen the movie, you'll recall that between weeks three and four, he actually lost a pound, then managed to gain tremendously in the final week. His food log would likely show that he stuffed himself mercilessly to ensure that his final weight gain would be impressive. He wanted the audience to believe that there's something especially fattening about fast food, as opposed to any other sugary/starchy food. As someone who once got fat on Grape Nuts and whole-grain pasta, I disagree.4. How fat are we, anyway? There is, as Dr. Eric Oliver from the University of Chicago explains, no real obesity "epidemic." Since 1970, Americans have become an average of 9 pounds heavier -- we've also become an average of 9 years older. During this same timespan, the CDC lowered the definition of "overweight," and bingo, 50 million Americans became overweight or obese overnight. Do we have a problem? Definitely ... just look at the increase in Type II diabetes. But it's not an epidemic. You can't catch obesity or diabetes from the guy next to you. Government agencies exaggerate (and flat-out lie at times) because it helps them get bigger funding.
5. It's not being fat that kills you, it's the behaviors that make you fat. Many "fat" people are quite healthy. As Dr. Eades can tell you, thin people become diabetic and die of heart attacks, too. Before my fast-food diet, my doctor said my cholesterol profile was very good, my triglycerides (70) were excellent, he complimented my strength and muscle tone, and was pleased to hear that I walk at least 15 miles per week in the hills near my home -- but at a BMI of 31, I'm "obese" and automatically deemed unhealthy.
6. More Spurlock Nonsense. I was particularly annoyed by Spurlock's obvious belief that people consume fast food because they're addicted, ignorant, or both. For someone who declared himself addicted, he somehow managed to quit the stuff cold-turkey and go back to his girlfriend's wacky vegan diet without much effort. After eating at McDonald's every day for a month, I didn't set foot in the place for three weeks. If this is an addiction, it's sure easy to break.
The idea that people consume fast food because they're ignorant is nothing more than class snobbery wearing a mask of concern. Contrary to what many people think, poor people are not ignorant about the nutritional quality of fast food. (Professor Oliver looked into that very topic, among others.) There is, however, much more social pressure to be thin among the upper classes; poor people are more likely to have an attitude of "I'm fat, and I don't care." And if you happen to value immediate pleasure more than long-term health, that's your choice.
I've conducted street interviews with dozens of people about fast food, and guess what? Every single one of them knows McDonald's is selling fattening food. (And most of them eat it anyway.) Many of them could guess the calorie count of a Quarter Pounder, large fries and large Coke within 200 calories. Those who couldn't usually guessed high, not low.
7. The saturated fat / cholesterol / heart disease myth. This is the subject that led me to Dr. Eades. If ignorance is a driving force behind our health problems, it's ignorance that's been promoted by the USDA and other federal agencies that harp on us to cut the fat and eat more grains. Thanks to them, women will buy a Weight Watchers "Smart Ones" dinner -- only one gram of fat!! -- and think it's a good choice, despite the 40 or 50 carbohydrates. Before I knew better, I used to get pancakes for breakfast at McDonald's and skip the butter -- only two grams of fat in pancakes!! The USDA would've approved.
8. The Lowfat Religion. Brought to you largely by the McGovern committee, which cheerfully ignored the testimony it didn't like and swallowed the advice of the low-fat advocates. McGovern was on the Pritikin diet at the time -- but couldn't stay on it. (Being a true politician, he nonetheless told the rest of us to do what he says, not what he does.) Dr. Eades, Dr. Mary Dan Eades, and others will explain how the low-fat, high-carb diet is ineffective at best and dangerous at worst.
9. The Food Police. Once the Lowfat Religion took hold, the evangelists soon followed: groups like the Center for Science in the Public Interest -- almost always identified in news stories as a "consumer advocacy group." A more accurate description would be "a vegetarian activist group posing as scientists." Their self-righteousness would be annoying even if their advice had merit, but it doesn't: They have played a large role in pushing natural animal fats out of the diet. They declared trans fats to be safe and harassed McDonald's and other fast-food restaurants into switching to trans fats from beef tallow and palm oil. (Now, of course, they're suing restaurants for using trans fats.)
10. Exercise. One of the reasons I was impressed with Dr. Eades' books is that he doesn't offer any pie-in-the-sky (or sausage-in-the-sky) promises that you can eat like a maniac, sit on your butt all day, and still lose weight; in fact, he states specifically that to lose weight, you must create a deficit between calories burned and calories consumed. That deficit is largely missing from American society today. We have engineered effort out of our lives. At my local mall, I see people drive around for 15 minutes until they can score a parking spot near the door. In addition to misinformed food choices, that's why we're getting fatter.
11. My results. When my doctor saw that I had consumed an average of 120 grams of fat per day (49 saturated), he told me I'd been on a "widow-maker" diet. He said, "Well, let's see what kind of damage you've done here." Then he measured the results: I lost 12 pounds. My body-fat percentage dropped four points. Triglyerides stood at 83. Blood pressure stayed the same. Cholesterol, a slight dip from 230 to 220, although my HDL had gone down to 48 from 60 -- but even the doctor admitted that could be because I had given up my evening glass of red wine during the diet. When he reviewed all the results, he said, "I don't think I like what you're proving here."12. My next diet. Because the saturated fat / cholesterol issue is so controversial, I spent another month on a no-starch, no-sugar diet that was essentially a saturated-fat pigout: lots of double-cheeseburgers without buns, polish sausages, bacon, eggs, butter, cheese, cream, marbled steaks, coconut oil, etc. The results? My total cholesterol dropped to 209, my HDL went back up to 64, LDL dropped to 130, and my triglycerides dropped to 75. I also lost a couple of pounds, despite the high calorie content, and my body fat dropped another point.
Those are the highlights. I realize my descriptions don't sound funny, but trust me; in addition to my background in journalism, I've been a standup comic for over a decade, and there will be plenty of laughs in this film.
I know some of you reading this will be disappointed that I'm not out to beat up on McDonald's, but in my view, their popularity is a result of our food choices, not the cause of them. Like Dr. Eades (and we didn't discuss this previously), I don't believe individual freedom and corporate responsibility are in opposition. McDonald's doesn't have any more of a "corporate responsibility" to sell me health food than Ben & Jerry's does. If McDonald's wants to spend their own money on ads that encourage me to eat starch and sugar, that doesn't bother me -- I can say no (and usually do). But when groups like CSPI want to use the tax code to force me to pay more for cheeseburgers so they can use the money to tell me to eat more whole grains, that definitely bothers me.
Ultimately, I'm responsible for making choices about my own health and my children's health. I hope this film will give a few people the tools to make better choices of their own.
Tom Naughton
www.TomNaughton.com
I have decided to go to Subway my good friends for my next meal.
I think when I get off of work I will then have some Double Chocolate Fudge cake for another meal.
Then an Ice cream cone or some cheese and crackers and potato chips.
I`ll let you know.
But Subway is next!
You should order the double meat 12 inch chicken subway.
I did that with my friend who is a pretty big dude himself 5'10" 200pds and there was this huge construction worker, must have been close to 7 feet tall 350 pounds and he only ordered a 12 inch and asked us how we can eat that much.
Adonis I looked on calorieking.com for krispy kreme's menu. Most of the donuts are around 250 calories. All of the beverages (like shakes) have 700-750 calories! hahaha
YUP!
You got the calories correct!
Maybe americans are fat?
you have no idea Mars. Even gyms are infested with fatties with thunder thighs. 200lbs+ girls on the cardio equipment eating thousands of calories buring only 200 from exercise and wondering why they are not losing weight.
So it's not a myth america has a lot of fat people? maybe they don't like to eat healthy?
So it's not a myth america has a lot of fat people? maybe they don't like to eat healthy?
So it's not a myth america has a lot of fat people? maybe they don't like to eat healthy?
Snapple Iced Tea has 35 tps of sugar in each 20oz bottle.
Its 35 grams..
what do you think a tsp is you fucking homo?
what do you think a tsp is you fucking homo?
no 1 teaspoon = 4.745 grams
A snapple has about 10 teaspoons of sugar. 47g sugar
http://www.gourmetsleuth.com/gram_calc.htm
On the label it says 35 grams of sugar.well the adoinis diet approves so no worry alexxx, drink ten snapples ..made from the best stuff on earth!!!1
snapple iced tea bottle has 200 calories, 50g carbs.
You can eat a small meal with 200 calories. 1 chicken breast and a banana would have the same calories.
Portions of food in America are just huge.
Triple cheeseburgers
48oz sugared drinks and milk shakes, etc.
If you had a fat person eat the same foods just lower their portions by 20-50% they would lose a few pounds of fat each week.
I will have a milkshake tommrrow in honor of you Basty :)
Right now all I eat is bee pollen....
One who drills exclusively to a set pattern is losing his freedom. He is actually becoming a slave to a choice pattern and feels that the pattern is the real thing. It leads to stagnation because the way of combat is never based on personal choice and fancies, but constantly changes from moment to moment, and the disappointed combatant will soon find out that his "choice routine" lacks pliability. There must be a "being" instead of a "doing" in training. One must be free. Instead of complexity of form, there should be simplicity of expression.
Adonis what is your last meal before you are going to sleep?
Adonis,
How much water you drinking a day?
Regards,
RS3000
My bad but still proves that BSB is a knucklehead.
Postworkout meal.................... ....chicken and medium sized bag of Ruffles plain potato chips, later on i'll have some sicilian meats Papa John's deep dish pizza with vanilla ice cream and a couple of peanut butter and jelly sandwiches before bed, it's too easy!!!!!!!!!!!
Postworkout meal.................... ....chicken and medium sized bag of Ruffles plain potato chips, later on i'll have some sicilian meats Papa John's deep dish pizza with vanilla ice cream and a couple of peanut butter and jelly sandwiches before bed, it's too easy!!!!!!!!!!!
I couldnt eat like that..I would start going backwards and looking like I used to, like a musclebear.. I eat really clean , with an occassional cheat meal here and there, like on monday at a bbq i had 4 cheeseburgers. haha...spiked my weight 4 lbs higher for a few days..i dont care, its not a race for me anymore, im just gonna take my time and get into great shape by nov. im still 213-210you've been hypnotized by Flex magazine, they tell you that by eating chicken, brown rice, tuna and broccoli that you will be as big as Coleman, it's all a joke, total bullshit.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32469.0;id=31313;image)yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is how it should be done, look at how lean Adonis is in that pic, believe me he is probably only eating 2 or 3 pieces at most unless it's a cheat meal, you have to have some willpower, if you do you can eat anything you want and you don't have to deprive yourself.
I couldnt eat like that..I would start going backwards and looking like I used to, like a musclebear.. I eat really clean , with an occassional cheat meal here and there, like on monday at a bbq i had 4 cheeseburgers. haha...spiked my weight 4 lbs higher for a few days..i dont care, its not a race for me anymore, im just gonna take my time and get into great shape by nov. im still 213-210
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32469.0;id=31313;image)Now this picture was taken some time ago, I am assuming.
The True Adonis,
I responded to your thread in the Y section. Do you think you could look it over?
Thanks
RS3000
Yes!
I will answer all of your questions!
My theories are pulled from all theories. A little bit of Adonis, Zane,Mentzer,Reeves,Grimek,Rheo Blair,Eugene Sandow,Vince Gironda.
They also come from Science,Biology,Nutrition,History and the Food Network. hahah..I use every piece of info that I can to some extent. I am constantly reading and researching diets as well as their application as well as their relation to ease and how practical in todays society.
My theories continually are getting bigger and bigger as I take more and more notes down,experimenting on myself and others. 100 percent success rate is what I aim for and that is what I get.
I will now give you some words of wisdom from the great Bruce Lee. This is the way I approach my methods:
have not invented a "new style," composite, modified or otherwise that is set within distinct form as apart from "this" method or "that" method. On the contrary, I hope to free my followers from clinging to styles, patterns, or molds. Remember that Jeet Kune Do is merely a name used, a mirror in which to see "ourselves". . . Jeet Kune Do is not an organized institution that one can be a member of. Either you understand or you don't, and that is that.
There is no mystery about my style. My movements are simple, direct and non-classical. The extraordinary part of it lies in its simplicity. Every movement in Jeet Kune-Do is being so of itself. There is nothing artificial about it. I always believe that the easy way is the right way. Jeet Kune-Do is simply the direct expression of one's feelings with the minimum of movements and energy. The closer to the true way of Kung Fu, the less wastage of expression there is.
Finally, a Jeet Kune Do man who says Jeet Kune Do is exclusively Jeet Kune Do is simply not with it. He is still hung up on his self-closing resistance, in this case anchored down to reactionary pattern, and naturally is still bound by another modified pattern and can move within its limits. He has not digested the simple fact that truth exists outside all molds; pattern and awareness is never exclusive.
Again let me remind you Jeet Kune Do is just a name used, a boat to get one across, and once across it is to be discarded and not to be carried on one's back.
I greatly admire Bruce Lee. And that is a wonderful speech by him. And what you are doing has nothing to do with his vision. You are trying to create a new style, adding yours to the many that are out there. You are saying "Eat and train this way and you will look like me, be like me". It is self-agrandizing. You're not setting people free, you're just trying to trap them in a different system. Bruce Lee was about simplicity, about instinct, about listening to your body and learning how to express yourself with your body and it's movements. Bruce Lee's greatest students were all origianlly members of other styles, ones they had nearly mastered. He showed them how to make the style fluid instead of rigid, how to make the style their own. That is the point of martial arts techniques and styles. You train and you learn and you practice a prescribed style so you can teach your body to move. And when your body has learned how to move, how to express itself, you transcend style. Look at Jet Li. He has mastered Kung Fu. All of it. Every style, every branch. He has transcended all styles. When you watch him practice, whether he is doing a form or sparring or just training, there is no space between thought and action. His movements are pure. That is true of all great martial artists, though none moreso than him.
My point is that it is the same with training and nutrition. When you start, you follow certain stricture or a certain path. You follow that path so that you can learn about your body, learn how to listen to it and how to control it. It is something that can only be learned through experience, through putting in the hours in the gym and sticking to your diet. I read about the mind-muscle connection for years, and I thought I knew what it was all about. But it wasn't until the past couple of months of training that I finally got it. I always thought I knew what it was and had achieved that. I was foolish and arrogant. But then one day I started to really hear what my body was telling me. It was like an epiphany. And I realise that I have a lot more to learn about my body. Everytime I workout, I learn something new about my body. I find some way to get even more out of my muscles, out of a particular exercise or training method, and out of my diet. Because of that, I am able to get the most out of all aspects of my training. And with every meal and every workout, I learn a little more, I take another step toward my goals.
I am sure that you feel very similarly when you train and when you eat. For me I know that there is very little that is more gratifying than that. But to say that your way is superior, that all others are demogogues is just arrogant and misleading. Bruce Lee hated the politics in martial arts, hated that most styles could not see the forest for the trees and kept their adherents from progressing past the style. There was too much ego in it, and it held people back. Sound familiar? Bruce Lee wanted to show people how to continue their progress, how to listen to their body and learn from it. The same principle applies to bodybuilding. Do not mistake personal truth for universal truth.
Bruce Lee.
The Master.
I greatly admire Bruce Lee. And that is a wonderful speech by him. And what you are doing has nothing to do with his vision. You are trying to create a new style, adding yours to the many that are out there. You are saying "Eat and train this way and you will look like me, be like me". It is self-agrandizing. You're not setting people free, you're just trying to trap them in a different system. Bruce Lee was about simplicity, about instinct, about listening to your body and learning how to express yourself with your body and it's movements. Bruce Lee's greatest students were all origianlly members of other styles, ones they had nearly mastered. He showed them how to make the style fluid instead of rigid, how to make the style their own. That is the point of martial arts techniques and styles. You train and you learn and you practice a prescribed style so you can teach your body to move. And when your body has learned how to move, how to express itself, you transcend style. Look at Jet Li. He has mastered Kung Fu. All of it. Every style, every branch. He has transcended all styles. When you watch him practice, whether he is doing a form or sparring or just training, there is no space between thought and action. His movements are pure. That is true of all great martial artists, though none moreso than him.
My point is that it is the same with training and nutrition. When you start, you follow certain stricture or a certain path. You follow that path so that you can learn about your body, learn how to listen to it and how to control it. It is something that can only be learned through experience, through putting in the hours in the gym and sticking to your diet. I read about the mind-muscle connection for years, and I thought I knew what it was all about. But it wasn't until the past couple of months of training that I finally got it. I always thought I knew what it was and had achieved that. I was foolish and arrogant. But then one day I started to really hear what my body was telling me. It was like an epiphany. And I realise that I have a lot more to learn about my body. Everytime I workout, I learn something new about my body. I find some way to get even more out of my muscles, out of a particular exercise or training method, and out of my diet. Because of that, I am able to get the most out of all aspects of my training. And with every meal and every workout, I learn a little more, I take another step toward my goals.
I am sure that you feel very similarly when you train and when you eat. For me I know that there is very little that is more gratifying than that. But to say that your way is superior, that all others are demogogues is just arrogant and misleading. Bruce Lee hated the politics in martial arts, hated that most styles could not see the forest for the trees and kept their adherents from progressing past the style. There was too much ego in it, and it held people back. Sound familiar? Bruce Lee wanted to show people how to continue their progress, how to listen to their body and learn from it. The same principle applies to bodybuilding. Do not mistake personal truth for universal truth.
Post of the month? Judges?
hahahahahahahaha Bruce Lee was nothing more than an actor and you bite into his bullshit like he was some genious philosopher. you really are a tool. hahahahahahahahaha
Post of the month?
hahahahhah Go ahead and align yourself with them.
Keep the delusion and lies alive.
I've got a large binder full of research published in journal articles on protein intake and it's effects on the body and exercise, as well as growth. In every single one, the groups that had higher protein intake always performed better and gained more lean muscle mass. Funny, I don't seem to recall ever coming across anything you've published in a scientific or medical peer reviewed journal ???
If you're intaking less calories than you're burning, and you're working out, of course you're going to stay lean and still see some gains. Your body is going to be forced to use whatever it can to repair your muscles. When I was 120 pounds and hardly eating anything, once I started eating more and hitting the gym, I got lean and added size rapidly. But that ended once my body finally hit equilibrium. Once I started intaking a lot of protein, juggled my meal timing and my carbs and worked out hard, I made even greater gains, had better workouts, and got the leanest I've ever been. Eating pizza and ice cream can work, but it is not the best or most efficient way to lean out or add size.
Another huge factor in this is genetics. How easily you lean out or add fat, as well as carb sensitivity, plays a huge role in what diet will work for you and what won't. I have a friend who weighs probly 160 soaking wet at about 6' 2". He is the crappiest eater I have ever seen. I have watched him down multiple bacon cheeseburgers, two 2 liters of Mountain Dew, a box of brownie bites, and a pizza all in aboutone and a half to two hours. And he never gains a pound. He added a little weight when he worked out, but no matter how he eats or how much, he is always lean. He's been like that his entire life. He's like super-ecto.
Advocating that people switch to diets of ice cream and pizza is just irresponsible. It's wonderful that you can eat like that and stay lean. Congratulations on good genetics. But it is undeniable that for people who are not so lucky, this diet would be harmful for their health. Many people who are fat may be genetically predisposed to being that way, but that doesn't mean that with proper diet and nutrition that they can't overcome that. Eating pizza, ice cream and potato chips is not going to help them overcome.
Fine. Prove me wrong. Show me that despite the fact that there are plenty of natural and juiced guys out there who have been big and shredded, using all variety of methods, that what they have accomplished is somehow fake. The only one who is keeping delusion and lies here alive is you. You're purporting something that does in fact work for you, for now, is the only way to gain muscle or get shredded, and that everything else is lies. But you've also gained muscle and gotten shredded using a more "traditional" approach. Essentially, you are denying a large part of your past and reality to rationalise yourself into a position as some kind of guru, and in the process you are going to do damage to the physiques of those who are listening to you.
I have read most of the pages and unless I am missing something TA never addressed this. He always seem to skip over/ignore certain points.you are saying TA is a gimmick?
Gimmick account
Actually he was a genius philospher. He was a philosophy student at the University of Washington and was incredibly well versed in both eastern and western philosophy.
As you can see, I have tried the traditional bullshit.
I got lean,but weak and it was stupid. You can see there was no error.
I would never do this type of diet ever again. It is pointless and would never reccommend it to anyone.
What I do now is superior.
I don`t address nonsense.
I never discounted other methods,however, the other methods are weak.
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Adonis, i hope this is some psyche-out attempt at the last few weeks to get your competition to eat a bunch of ice cream and pizza....lol just my thought. shittiest thread ever. TA has reached his alltime low. :-\
i hope you arent serious because this is utter nonsense
lol just my thought. shittiest thread ever. TA has reached his alltime low. :-\
It's easy for a young 20 year old to say that all food including mcdonalds is good for you. Everyone I know or have known in their twenties can eat or drink whatever they want with little consequence whatsoever. But, it does add up and one day you, TA (total ass), will be tooting a different horn.
It's similar to a boxing match. One or two body blows doesn't effect you much, but after several rounds of taking bodyshots something gives. All these toxins you keep putting in your mouth do accumulate over time and reck with your internal organs. An alcolholic doesn't die from the first year or two of heavy drinking. It takes years for your body to fall apart.
But do what you want. It's all individual choice, but someone can get hurt from the games you play.
I'm living itAdonis has an imaginary physique, imaginary lat syndrome, imaginary diet, imaginary girlfriend and imaginary friends (Teh Squad), take him for what he is... some ugly white dud who is on the computer all day everyday...
Adonis has an imaginary physique, imaginary lat syndrome, imaginary diet, imaginary girlfriend and imaginary friends (Teh Squad), take him for what he is... some ugly white dud who is on the computer all day everyday...
I'm living it
No you aren`t.
You were fat and unhealthy because you overate.
If you fat off of Chicken and Rice, you will be just as unhealthy.
It has more to do with quantity than type of food. Obesity is a health risk, not the foods.
Limiting calorie intake one can eat anything and remain lean,continue to gain muscle and be very healthy.
As opposed to a supposed pot head who is on the computer all day. ::)pot head, maybe .. i dont smoke enough as id like but i dont drink alcohol and when i do smoke it doesnt effect me as much...
pot head, maybe .. i dont smoke enough as id like but i dont drink alcohol and when i do smoke it doesnt effect me as much...
All day...not really ..look at my stats...8 hrs....same time im in the office..look at adonis' 13 hours of high activity..there is your diffrence... Adonis needs fake diets and forges freindships with strangers who he never met... I tell it as I see it.. i dont give a f**k about squad gayness, gimmick accounts or kissing someones ass..no one likes me here hahahahahaha you need to join an internet gang to feel accepted i dont, your owned
Adonis is at WORK right now haha. He posts on getbig while at work.yeah no shit ..me too ...do the pro hormones you take make you dumber bast000 ?
pot head, maybe .. i dont smoke enough as id like but i dont drink alcohol and when i do smoke it doesnt effect me as much...
All day...not really ..look at my stats...8 hrs....same time im in the office..look at adonis' 13 hours of high activity..there is your diffrence... Adonis needs fake diets and forges freindships with strangers who he never met... I tell it as I see it.. i dont give a f**k about squad gayness, gimmick accounts or kissing someones ass..no one likes me here hahahahahaha you need to join an internet gang to feel accepted i dont, your owned
Yea. Does this guy think that if he ate 6000 calories of all oatmeal and chicken he wouldn't get fat? haha would his body magically not store the excess calories as fat? Would eating that much be healthy because they are clean foods? ::)
yeah no shit ..me too ...do the pro hormones you take make you dumber bast000 ?
Your credibility is shot. You post a photoshopped picture first off. You claim I have a fake diet. I can take pictures of me eating it everyday if you want and post. In fact I think I will take a picture tonite of me eating a Mcdonalds Triple Thick Milkshake. All friends start out as stranger that never met.hahaha coming from a dude with your face and an imaginary gf, you have no business taking about owning people....
You have been owned on all fronts.
Delete your account.
This guy thinks that if you consume more calories than you need then you will get fat. But it's easier to consume too many calories by eating pizza and ice cream than it is by eating chicken breast and vegetables.
haha what point were you making then, none? You're hating on him because he has you beat on physique.i dont hate anyone, i just hate the fact that getbig is reduced to ice cream and pics of people standing in shadows and inverting the image color. Yeah Bob gets outlifted by TA ..hahahaha
Well jaejonna, i like icecream.you also like to lick sarcasms anus clean, but thats not on any Mc Donalds menu either...
i dont hate anyone, i just hate the fact that getbig is reduced to ice cream and pics of people standing in shadows and inverting the image color.
TA, did your mom ever tell you to eat your vegetables, because it might stunt your growth if you don't?
Well jaejonna, i like icecream.
you also like to lick sarcasms anus clean, but thats not on any Mc Donalds menu either...
Look at my diet on the Y board Dummy.You eat quality food also right?
I ate them with my Potato Chips before I went to bed :)
You eat quality food also right?
Then its OK.
You have to eat chicken breast,beef stake,eggs ,fishes then whatever you want.
That really make you huge!
Nope.Then if you follow me.you can be way bigger than now.
If I want that stuff I will eat it.
But I don`t make it a priority.
Take a look at my diet on the Y board under Adonis Principle...You will get the idea.
TA, if you're preaching moderation then all is good, but why not come out and say it instead of these claims of eating all this bad food? Bad is a subjective word, but the bodybuilding world has been brainwashed to feel that certain foods are bad and only about twenty foods out of a million are good for you.Good point
TA, if you're preaching moderation then all is good, but why not come out and say it instead of these claims of eating all this bad food? Bad is a subjective word, but the bodybuilding world has been brainwashed to feel that certain foods are bad and only about twenty foods out of a million are good for you.
So the diet that Adonis is on made his phyque huh ?? Well we all know that you cannot change ones physque that drastically in lil over three months ... but about that time here was Adonis' advice for what to eat....now he changes his tune , why ...cause he is a gimmick ...
enjoy
The True Adonis
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Re: Pretty Impressive
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Here is his diet for you 240..
This is an actual entry in my daily nutrition log taken from thursday 3/3/05
5:45 am: 7 eggwhites, 2 oz 96% lean ground beef, 1 piece fat free cheese, 3/4 cup oatmeal w/ 2 tblspn flaxseed meal
7:30am: Micellean meal replacement
9am: 6 oz chicken, 4 oz sweet potato, green beans
11:25am: 6 oz chicken, 5 oz sweet potato, green beans
12:40pm: 1.5 scoops Champion Nutrition Pure WHey Stack, 8 raw almonds
2:30pm: 3oz chicken, 3 oz 96% lean ground beef, 1 cup brown rice, 1 piece fat free cheese
4:40pm (preworkout): 3oz chicken, 3 oz 96% lean ground beef, 1 cup brown rice, 1 piece fat free cheese
6:30pm (postworkout): Champion Nutrition Heavyweight Gainer 900
8pm: 3/4 cup oatmeal, 2 scoops ultra size (not typical for me), 1 tblspn natural PB, 2 oz chicken
9:30pm: 6 oz chicken, 4 oz sweet potato
The True Adonis
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Re: Pretty Impressive
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Here is another entry:
Meal 1: 1 cup oatmeal w/ 2 scoops Champion Nutrition Pure Whey Stack, 1 tblspn natural PB
Meal 2: 8 eggwhites, 2-3 oz lean meat, broccoli cole slaw, 1 piece fat free cheese, hummus, oats & granola (or some type of carb)
Meal 3: Core MRP
Meal 4: 7 oz chicken (or tuna), 5 oz sweet potato, broccoli cole slaw
Meal 5 (preworkout): 7 oz chicken, 1.25 cups brown rice
Meal 6 (post workout shake): 2 scoops Primaforce Substance WPI, 4-5 tablespoons dextrose
Meal 7 (45 minutes later): more tuna or chicken, a piece of fruit or more oats, granola (some type of quick carb...i'm usually at the gym getting ready to train a client so I need to eat something convenient)
Meal 8: 7-8 oz lean meat, potato, salad or mixed veggies
Meal 9 (right before bed): 2 scoops Labrada Pro V60 (60 grams whey, egg, casein blend)
DONT LISTEN TO THE FOOL ^^^^^^^ I DONT SEE ICE CREAM ON THAT MENU , DO YOU ??
So the diet that Adonis is on made his phyque huh ?? Well we all know that you cannot change ones physque that drastically in lil over three months ... but about that time here was Adonis' advice for what to eat....now he changes his tune , why ...cause he is a gimmick ...
enjoy
The True Adonis
Getbig V
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Re: Pretty Impressive
« Reply #34 on: May 29, 2006, 11:17:54 AM » Quote
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Here is his diet for you 240..
This is an actual entry in my daily nutrition log taken from thursday 3/3/05
5:45 am: 7 eggwhites, 2 oz 96% lean ground beef, 1 piece fat free cheese, 3/4 cup oatmeal w/ 2 tblspn flaxseed meal
7:30am: Micellean meal replacement
9am: 6 oz chicken, 4 oz sweet potato, green beans
11:25am: 6 oz chicken, 5 oz sweet potato, green beans
12:40pm: 1.5 scoops Champion Nutrition Pure WHey Stack, 8 raw almonds
2:30pm: 3oz chicken, 3 oz 96% lean ground beef, 1 cup brown rice, 1 piece fat free cheese
4:40pm (preworkout): 3oz chicken, 3 oz 96% lean ground beef, 1 cup brown rice, 1 piece fat free cheese
6:30pm (postworkout): Champion Nutrition Heavyweight Gainer 900
8pm: 3/4 cup oatmeal, 2 scoops ultra size (not typical for me), 1 tblspn natural PB, 2 oz chicken
9:30pm: 6 oz chicken, 4 oz sweet potato
The True Adonis
Getbig V
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Re: Pretty Impressive
« Reply #35 on: May 29, 2006, 11:18:57 AM » Quote
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Here is another entry:
Meal 1: 1 cup oatmeal w/ 2 scoops Champion Nutrition Pure Whey Stack, 1 tblspn natural PB
Meal 2: 8 eggwhites, 2-3 oz lean meat, broccoli cole slaw, 1 piece fat free cheese, hummus, oats & granola (or some type of carb)
Meal 3: Core MRP
Meal 4: 7 oz chicken (or tuna), 5 oz sweet potato, broccoli cole slaw
Meal 5 (preworkout): 7 oz chicken, 1.25 cups brown rice
Meal 6 (post workout shake): 2 scoops Primaforce Substance WPI, 4-5 tablespoons dextrose
Meal 7 (45 minutes later): more tuna or chicken, a piece of fruit or more oats, granola (some type of quick carb...i'm usually at the gym getting ready to train a client so I need to eat something convenient)
Meal 8: 7-8 oz lean meat, potato, salad or mixed veggies
Meal 9 (right before bed): 2 scoops Labrada Pro V60 (60 grams whey, egg, casein blend)
DONT LISTEN TO THE FOOL ^^^^^^^ I DONT SEE ICE CREAM ON THAT MENU , DO YOU ??
Exactly what I am trying to do. You don`t have to eat a chicken breast every meal. You can eat cake if you want.Did you just say that there's lower cholesterol eating a BigMac than a chicken breast??
There is no such thing as a bad food.
Its all a lie and if you stop letting the lies,falsehoods and myhts cloud your thought processes you will see the truth.
A chicken breast is not going to ensure muscle growth any faster than a McDonalds Big Mac. I would rather have the Big Mac for taste,and the different Nutrients hahaha and the LOWER Cholesterol hahhahahah
Did you just say that there's lower cholesterol eating a BigMac than a chicken breast??
Yup.whats the breakout between the good and bad cholesterol in each ??
Look it up.
80 mg of Cholesterol in a Big Mac
Cholesterol 119 mg 40% in 5 ounces of chicken
Yup.
Look it up.
80 mg of Cholesterol in a Big Mac
Cholesterol 119 mg 40% in 5 ounces of chicken
Exactly what I am trying to do. You don`t have to eat a chicken breast every meal. You can eat cake if you want.
There is no such thing as a bad food.
Its all a lie and if you stop letting the lies,falsehoods and myhts cloud your thought processes you will see the truth.
A chicken breast is not going to ensure muscle growth any faster than a McDonalds Big Mac. I would rather have the Big Mac for taste,and the different Nutrients hahaha and the LOWER Cholesterol hahhahahah
Yup.
Look it up.
80 mg of Cholesterol in a Big Mac
Cholesterol 119 mg 40% in 5 ounces of chicken
OMG you must have being abused growing up right?True, Anally
You forgot these numbers:
Calories in BigMac: 560
Calories in Chicken: 231
Total Fat in BigMac: 30 g
Total Fat in Chicken: 5 g
Sat Fat in BigMac: 10 g
Sat Fat in Chicken: 1.4 g
Trans Fatty Acids in BigMac: 1.5 g
Trans Fatty Acids in Chicken: 0 g
Dietary Fiber in BigMac: 3 g
Dietary Fiber in Chicken: 0 g
Sodium in BigMac: 1010 mg
Sodium in Chicken: 104 mg
Sugar in BigMac: 8 g
Sugar in Chicken: 0 g
Protein in BigMac: 25 g
Protein in Chicken: 43.4 g
Calcium in BigMac: 0 g
Calcium in Chicken: 21 mg
I'll stick with the Chicken. I like Grilled Chicken over Fried Beef anyway. ;D
I'll stick with the Chicken. I like Grilled Chicken over Fried Beef anyway. ;D
Im sure chickens in factory farms all over america will be happy to hear this.
WHy not try vegetarianism? What do women need all the protein for anyway?
Im sure chickens in factory farms all over america will be happy to hear this.Cuz I like meat. :)
WHy not try vegetarianism? What do women need all the protein for anyway?
Cuz I like meat. :)
I guess you like it in small portions ;DJezzebelle says that all the meat she puts in her mouth is always a small portion...hahahah that would be funny if she was an actual person ..
I guess you like it in small portions ;Dfunny. ::) :P
No you aren`t.
You were fat and unhealthy because you overate.
If you fat off of Chicken and Rice, you will be just as unhealthy.
It has more to do with quantity than type of food. Obesity is a health risk, not the foods.
Limiting calorie intake one can eat anything and remain lean,continue to gain muscle and be very healthy.
Im sure chickens in factory farms all over america will be happy to hear this.
WHy not try vegetarianism? What do women need all the protein for anyway?
Yup.
Look it up.
80 mg of Cholesterol in a Big Mac
Cholesterol 119 mg 40% in 5 ounces of chicken
I love how you shove it in everyones' face that they were fat because of what they did, "you're fat and unhealthy because you over ate" but when you talk about the time you did dc you say it "made you fat" maybe it made you fat cause you were lazy and over-ate?
Are you just trying to get us all fat TA?
1. There's also 30 gms of fat and 10 gms of saturated fat in a big mac --- and around 3 gms of fat in the equivalent amount of chicken breast. Chicken Breast 1, Big Mac 0
2. You just said cholesterol is more important in regards to genetics than what you eat. Make up your mind. Dietary cholesterol is important for testosterone production also. Chicken Breast 2, Big Mac 0
3. The thermogenic effect of protein is higher than an equivalent amount of carbs or fats = your body burns more calories eating the chicken breast than it does eating a Big Mac with a bun, sauce etc. You get the protein it needs, plus you burn more calories as a result. And how is McDonalds better for you? Chicken breast 3, big mac 0...
I only respond for the sake of the newbs, a 17 pg thread about eating ice cream should have been laughed off after pg 1. Anyway, TA you remind me of a guy I went to school with, he walked around in almost contest shape year round, told everyone his secret was ice cream (seriously) for breakfast and skittles every day with a straight face, but if you ever caught him in the cafeteria eating by himself he had nothing but boiled egg whites and rice on his plate with a gallon of water...
I love how you shove it in everyones' face that they were fat because of what they did, "you're fat and unhealthy because you over ate" but when you talk about the time you did dc you say it "made you fat" maybe it made you fat cause you were lazy and over-ate?
You are wrong on number 3 by a longshot.
The thermogenic effect of protein is not molecularly superior at all.
Im sure chickens in factory farms all over america will be happy to hear this.
WHy not try vegetarianism? What do women need all the protein for anyway?
See Cheri's article (among others) -
"This thermogenic response is often called the thermic effect of nutrients; it depends on the absorption, processing and storing of the nutrients. The carbohydrate-induced thermogenic response is about 7% of the glucose energy administered (SCHUTZ et al., 1983), whereas the thermic effect of fat is approximately 3% (THIÉBAUD et al., 1983). By contrast, the stimulation of energy expenditure following protein ingestion or amino acid infusion is close to 30% of the energy administered (FLATT, 1978), which is mainly due to the stimulation of protein synthesis, gluconeogenesis and ureogenesis."
- You were actually the one who was wrong by a long shot.
Natural AL,
He has produced no real results because he has yet to prove that he has made a Natural go ABOVE and BEYOND the norm like he claims he has done.
Did you just say that there's lower cholesterol eating a BigMac than a chicken breast??
I will also have you know that I have been PMed by a DC paying client the other day asking me for help.
He paid DC and went from 225 lbs to 295 of pure fat. He did not realize it as Dante kept telling him he was making Tremendous progress.
What a shame that a scam artist he is.
I should post the PM.
You forgot these numbers:
Calories in BigMac: 560
Calories in Chicken: 231
Total Fat in BigMac: 30 g
Total Fat in Chicken: 5 g
Sat Fat in BigMac: 10 g
Sat Fat in Chicken: 1.4 g
Trans Fatty Acids in BigMac: 1.5 g
Trans Fatty Acids in Chicken: 0 g
Dietary Fiber in BigMac: 3 g
Dietary Fiber in Chicken: 0 g
Sodium in BigMac: 1010 mg
Sodium in Chicken: 104 mg
Sugar in BigMac: 8 g
Sugar in Chicken: 0 g
Protein in BigMac: 25 g
Protein in Chicken: 43.4 g
Calcium in BigMac: 0 g
Calcium in Chicken: 21 mg
I'll stick with the Chicken. I like Grilled Chicken over Fried Beef anyway. ;D
Natural AL,
He Recommends Outrageous Protein Amounts way too high in Calories,I would hate to know a DC trainers cholesterol, Minimal work at the gym and, Nonsense approaches to Carbs and Fat.
Simply he advocates too many calories and not enough work.
He has produced no real results because he has yet to prove that he has made a Natural go ABOVE and BEYOND the norm like he claims he has done.
If anything promotes laziness it is his routines and diet advice.
Post it--I absolute dare you too...and dont forget to include his name (this should be good)
Really? Travis Macduff ABA INPA natural pro, started training him 2 year ago and he won it last year---wheres your pro card by the way? On that back of that Breyers ice cream Jug?
30 calories per meal, 5 meals a day, that equals 150 calories.
So, you would only be burning an extra 150 calories a day if you were to go on a high protein diet.
Big deal!!!!
Here is just one of a few I have from some of your FORMER disgruntled members.
They ought to bring suit against you for your SHIT ADVICE.
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Adonis-
I sent you an email I was wondering if you received it. I've done DC and was up to 275, but was carrying too much fat. I had to take awhile off and got down to 220, bc I was still doing cardio. I do cardio twice a day and lift 4 or 5 times a week right now. Eating about 300 grams of protein & 90 carbs on most days with some cashews, nat. pb & a few other things.
What would you advise? Thanks if you have time.
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hahhahahah.
What a Joke.
I was expecting to see a person under 6 ft over 210 lbs ripped like you CLAIM IS POSSIBLE.
You are a fat pathetic scam artist.
Get off my fucking thread you fat huckster.
but what would that be over a years time, how much fat would be lost? It might add up to something substantial and since it was done slowly, less excess skin and no cravings.
Didn't David Henry follow DC's advice?
NATURAL AL I DONT WANT TO GET INTO A PISSING CONTEST WITH YOU BUT DONT YOU THINK
1.5 GRAMS OF PROTEIN PER POUND OF BODY WEIGHT IS A BIT EXCESSIVE ESPECIALLY FOR A NATURAL
THAT MEANS I WOULD HAVE TO EAT 350 GRAMS A DAY
AND COME ON BRO IF I AM EATING CHICKEN THATS ALOT OF FUCKING CHICKEN PER DAY
I MEAN WHO IN THE HELL WANTS TO EAT THAT MUCH PER DAY . i think people get to caught up
in how much protein they should be eating.
i never could digest that much even when training super hard.
NATURAL AL I DONT WANT TO GET INTO A PISSING CONTEST WITH YOU BUT DONT YOU THINK
1.5 GRAMS OF PROTEIN PER POUND OF BODY WEIGHT IS A BIT EXCESSIVE ESPECIALLY FOR A NATURAL
THAT MEANS I WOULD HAVE TO EAT 350 GRAMS A DAY
AND COME ON BRO IF I AM EATING CHICKEN THATS ALOT OF FUCKING CHICKEN PER DAY
I MEAN WHO IN THE HELL WANTS TO EAT THAT MUCH PER DAY . i think people get to caught up
in how much protein they should be eating.
i never could digest that much even when training super hard.
that's about 40 oz of chicken a day. 10 easy meals of 4 oz of chicken breast and brown ricethis is the dumbest idea i've ever heard, totally unnecessary.
Get off my fucking thread you fat huckster.
that's about 40 oz of chicken a day. 10 easy meals of 4 oz of chicken breast and brown rice4 oz for one meal? That doesn't seem like much.
Here is just one of a few I have from some of your FORMER disgruntled members.
They ought to bring suit against you for your SHIT ADVICE.
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Adonis-
I sent you an email I was wondering if you received it. I've done DC and was up to 275, but was carrying too much fat. I had to take awhile off and got down to 220, bc I was still doing cardio. I do cardio twice a day and lift 4 or 5 times a week right now. Eating about 300 grams of protein & 90 carbs on most days with some cashews, nat. pb & a few other things.
What would you advise? Thanks if you have time.
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4 oz for one meal? That doesn't seem like much.
hahhahahah.hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!! yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What a Joke.
I was expecting to see a person under 6 ft over 210 lbs ripped like you CLAIM IS POSSIBLE.
You are a fat pathetic scam artist.
Get off my fucking thread you fat huckster.
NATURAL AL I DONT WANT TO GET INTO A PISSING CONTEST WITH YOU BUT DONT YOU THINK
1.5 GRAMS OF PROTEIN PER POUND OF BODY WEIGHT IS A BIT EXCESSIVE ESPECIALLY FOR A NATURAL
THAT MEANS I WOULD HAVE TO EAT 350 GRAMS A DAY
AND COME ON BRO IF I AM EATING CHICKEN THATS ALOT OF FUCKING CHICKEN PER DAY
I MEAN WHO IN THE HELL WANTS TO EAT THAT MUCH PER DAY . i think people get to caught up
in how much protein they should be eating.
i never could digest that much even when training super hard.
What absolutely amazes me is that you were banned/kicked off all the other bodybuilding sites yet you come over here and roll right over these guys and some of them actually bow down to you (natural Al and a few others are among the exception)....are people really that freaking weak over here? There are some longtime members over here and they bowed right down to your bullshit--sad.....Every other site branded you the village idiot but these guys rolled right over....there are some really weak willed people over here. Your about the 14 thousand 376th best natural bodybuilder in this nation yet because you never shut your trap about yourself and are such a pain in the ass people on this site either become subservant to your 180lb ass or just let you do your thing without consequence. Wont happen on any other site because they trash your ass with your first stupid comment and you cant get that much needed attention you always crave. Anybody got any balls over here or are you all just followers?who's melting here? you're the one who types a 500 word post attacking someone who simply sees the comedy in your "training system" and exposes it, i totally agree with Adonis on most of his methods so how does that make me subservient to anyone? BTW your arms look 16 inches in that picture of you in the brown shirt in the latest Flex issue.
I also find it comical that you, your girlfriend and a number of other screen names type in the exact same manner, isnt that right Count? Anyone ever notice that Adonis posts alot whenever something is drawing attention away from himself? Lately its been the Europa, and Montreal shows that took the attention away and you started posting like its going out of style.....Its hilarious that you get so freaked out when the attention isnt on you. If some new pro or top amateur comes on the site, you go at him again solely to bring attention to yourself (chick, lee, rhino the list is endless)....ok drama queen carry on, whatever you got to do to get that attention fix you need....your gig is old and tired
Sarcasm:meltdown!!! (as your that little yappy dog that is subservant to Adonis, I thought i would beat you to it) your 30 years old, 10 hour shifts on the net and you bow down to a 24 year old bullshit artist.....heres a girlscout outfit nancy.... man up for once bro)
150 calories a day equates to 15.6 pounds a year. Multiply that by a decade and you have one fat person
BTW your arms look 16 inches in that picture of you in the brown shirt in the latest Flex issue.
Are you saying Doggcrapps's arms to waist ratio is a joke, Sarcasm?hahahaha, 16 inches to 44 inches is pretty bad.
HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
YOU WOULD GET BETTER RESULTS BY SITTING OR STANDING FOR AN HOUR TALKING TO YOUR GIRLFRIEND OR WIFE
FOR A 200LB MAN CALORIES BURNED IN AN HOUR.
?Standing while talking
Including talking on the phone 73
?Sitting while talking
Including talking on the phone 46
http://calorielab.com/burned/index.html?mo=se&wt=200&un=lb&kg=68&q=talking
HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAor you could do one of DC's chest/shoulders/triceps/biceps/forearms/legs/back thickness/backwidth workouts with one massive restpause set apiece that should burn around 50 calories.
YOU WOULD GET BETTER RESULTS BY SITTING OR STANDING FOR AN HOUR TALKING TO YOUR GIRLFRIEND OR WIFE
FOR A 200LB MAN CALORIES BURNED IN AN HOUR.
?Standing while talking
Including talking on the phone 73
?Sitting while talking
Including talking on the phone 46
http://calorielab.com/burned/index.html?mo=se&wt=200&un=lb&kg=68&q=talking
Yes! I plan to incorporate this into my training program!talking??
What absolutely amazes me is that you were banned/kicked off all the other bodybuilding sites yet you come over here and roll right over these guys and some of them actually bow down to you (natural Al and a few others are among the exception)....are people really that freaking weak over here? There are some longtime members over here and they bowed right down to your bullshit--sad.....Every other site branded you the village idiot but these guys rolled right over....there are some really weak willed people over here. Your about the 14 thousand 376th best natural bodybuilder in this nation yet because you never shut your trap about yourself and are such a pain in the ass people on this site either become subservant to your 180lb ass or just let you do your thing without consequence. Wont happen on any other site because they trash your ass with your first stupid comment and you cant get that much needed attention you always crave. Anybody got any balls over here or are you all just followers?
I also find it comical that you, your girlfriend and a number of other screen names type in the exact same manner, isnt that right Count? Anyone ever notice that Adonis posts alot whenever something is drawing attention away from himself? Lately its been the Europa, and Montreal shows that took the attention away and you started posting like its going out of style.....Its hilarious that you get so freaked out when the attention isnt on you. If some new pro or top amateur comes on the site, you go at him again solely to bring attention to yourself (chick, lee, rhino the list is endless)....ok drama queen carry on, whatever you got to do to get that attention fix you need....your gig is old and tired
Sarcasm:meltdown!!! (as your that little yappy dog that is subservant to Adonis, I thought i would beat you to it) your 30 years old, 10 hour shifts on the net and you bow down to a 24 year old bullshit artist.....heres a girlscout outfit nancy.... man up for once bro)
What absolutely amazes me is that you were banned/kicked off all the other bodybuilding sites yet you come over here and roll right over these guys and some of them actually bow down to you (natural Al and a few others are among the exception)....are people really that freaking weak over here? There are some longtime members over here and they bowed right down to your bullshit--sad.....Every other site branded you the village idiot but these guys rolled right over....there are some really weak willed people over here. Your about the 14 thousand 376th best natural bodybuilder in this nation yet because you never shut your trap about yourself and are such a pain in the ass people on this site either become subservant to your 180lb ass or just let you do your thing without consequence. Wont happen on any other site because they trash your ass with your first stupid comment and you cant get that much needed attention you always crave. Anybody got any balls over here or are you all just followers?yes some one with a sense of reality yes thank you!!!
I also find it comical that you, your girlfriend and a number of other screen names type in the exact same manner, isnt that right Count? Anyone ever notice that Adonis posts alot whenever something is drawing attention away from himself? Lately its been the Europa, and Montreal shows that took the attention away and you started posting like its going out of style.....Its hilarious that you get so freaked out when the attention isnt on you. If some new pro or top amateur comes on the site, you go at him again solely to bring attention to yourself (chick, lee, rhino the list is endless)....ok drama queen carry on, whatever you got to do to get that attention fix you need....your gig is old and tired
You are a joke. We have exposed you for the fraud that you are and anyone reading this website knows it.
We stand as a BASTion. A stronghold against bullshit.
You are not welcome. Everyone with intelligence knows you are a liar and a pathetic joke preying upon peoples insecurities.
The sad thing is you are just as delusional.
Now go scram back to your dying cult. We don`t put up with bullshit and lies here.
Im sorry to misinform you but the weight you think you carry in the sport is none, zero, zilch. Outside of your little band of freinds here on this site your looked at as just one more bigmouth moron wasting space. Seriously when you have to create things like "the squad" and fake girlfreinds, and alternative screen names on the net as a 24 year old man, you really should be embarrassed. For some reason your not, but I get a kick out of proving you wrong so many times anyway (not much to say about natural pro Travis Macduff huh? didnt think so-INSERT FOOT IN MOUTH)...Hows that interview with Muscular Development going I heard you talking about a month or so ago? LOLI started the SQUAD jackass.
Unbelievalbe noone over here has the balls to call you out when you post your bullshit
DOGGCRAP won't be back he's been thoroughly destroyed, i feel sorry for the Smith machine at his upcoming "workout".
Im sorry to misinform you but the weight you think you carry in the sport is none, zero, zilch. Outside of your little band of freinds here on this site your looked at as just one more bigmouth moron wasting space. Seriously when you have to create things like "the squad" and fake girlfreinds, and alternative screen names on the net as a 24 year old man, you really should be embarrassed. For some reason your not, but I get a kick out of proving you wrong so many times anyway (not much to say about natural pro Travis Macduff huh? didnt think so-INSERT FOOT IN MOUTH)...Hows that interview with Muscular Development going I heard you talking about a month or so ago? LOLIve been doing it all day, week, hell month ... i had better results telling the wall on the right of me to move down the hall...
Unbelievalbe noone over here has the balls to call you out when you post your bullshit
I started the SQUAD jackass.
I stand corrected--you should be so proud (30 year old man)...get a grip and leave the computer for 3 minutes and go outside and get some sun Boo Radleyi'm 34 fatso, and i had the leg workout of my life today FYI and there wasn't any "widowmaker" set involved, hahaha, epic bullshit.
hahah its mr. fat ass himself in his fat ass suit. dogshit. what a great f'in name, shows how shitty you feel about yourself being a super sloth, great accomplishment. you have nothing on the true adonis and daddywaddyhahahah daddywaddy who lives in some dudes den, paints fences, and is a 'rent-a-boy'..taking picks of yourself jerking off hahahaha North Carolina white trash at best .hahahahah
hahah its mr. fat ass himself in his fat ass suit. dogshit. what a great f'in name, shows how shitty you feel about yourself being a super sloth, great accomplishment. you have nothing on the true adonis and daddywaddyare you suggesting that one restpause set per bodypart is a sure path to fatness and a below average build, daddywaddy?
"Unbelievalbe noone over here has the balls to call you out when you post your bullshit"
I do every time I see this ingorant moron open his trap
hahah its mr. fat ass himself in his fat ass suit. dogshit. what a great f'in name, shows how shitty you feel about yourself being a super sloth, great accomplishment. you have nothing on the true adonis and daddywaddy
Wow sarcasm i used to like you, you use to call daddywaddy for what he is...now your stroking him like mars does you ..... next thing you know your going to tell us that Kamali looks good...wait a second..you did that on Saturday hahahahahahhahaha, go hit some more "side triceps" shots with those monster 13 inch arms.
ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo
Fat suit.
Hows that interview with Muscular Development going I heard you talking about a month or so ago? LOL
Unbelievable noone over here has the balls to call you out when you post your bullshit
hahaha, go hit some more "side triceps" shots with those monster 13 inch arms.Yeah, thought so...no explanation for the daddywaddy change of heart.... now i got monster arms cause im not in your fan club.... hahahah nice to know you let others think for you, at 34 you should have your own sense of self...
Yeah, thought so...no explanation for the daddywaddy change of heart.... now i got monster arms cause im not in your fan club.... hahahah nice to know you let others think for you, at 34 you should have your own sense of self...
Is that mobster looking fellow dogcrap? :ohahahaha, yes, he got that suit at the Big, Fat and Delusional Men's Outlet.
Nobody cares what you say.you probably still giving away you lunch money right swimmer?
jaejilly you are a woman or a man it doesnt really matter, i reccomend you dig yourself out of your tunnel of denial while everyone passes you by in the game of weightlifting, do you realize transexuals are more jacked than you? atleast be tougher than that kidDaddywaddy you and the country folk known as teh squad are all delusional...hahahah what do you want to be when you grow up ? Sarcasm >>??? hahah
Why are you gusy picking on Joanne, she is eats like a "pro bodybuilder",???
BOOOOOM, CHECK OUT THIS SIDE TRICEP SHOT HATERS, QUADZILLA EAT YOUR HEART OUT!
hahahaha, yes, he got that suit at the Big, Fat and Delusional Men's Outlet.
HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
YOU WOULD GET BETTER RESULTS BY SITTING OR STANDING FOR AN HOUR TALKING TO YOUR GIRLFRIEND OR WIFE
FOR A 200LB MAN CALORIES BURNED IN AN HOUR.
?Standing while talking
Including talking on the phone 73
?Sitting while talking
Including talking on the phone 46
http://calorielab.com/burned/index.html?mo=se&wt=200&un=lb&kg=68&q=talking
How many calories in sitting and typing at the computer, because that appears to be your only cardio?
How many calories in sitting and typing at the computer, because that appears to be your only cardio?Ok, I'm sorry, but that was funny. ;D
Ok, I'm sorry, but that was funny. ;D
hahhahahh I bet he struts in there and says, "Give me the biggest coat you got" thinking to himself this will impress them.
The tailor then comes back with a sheepish grin and brings out a bed sheet.hahahahahah
It is the truth though.I hate you >:(
I do play Xbox360 though and drive a car.
That is about it though.
I hate you >:(
Whats your diet like?You're not Lisa!
How many Calories are you consuming?
I think the Adonis principle involves cutting the calories - one would burn doing cardio, therefore no cardio is needed.
You're not Lisa!
o.......................kroflmao, sorry I thought you were someone else. Forgive me?
roflmao, sorry I thought you were someone else. Forgive me?
Whats your diet like?
How many Calories are you consuming?
I think the Adonis principle involves cutting the calories - one would burn doing cardio, therefore no cardio is needed.
Wow, what a post, eat like shit.LOL I would be sick and feel like shit if i ate ice cream and donuts all day. Yeah, have a cheat meal here and there, but, to live on that shit, no way.
Also, DC training is for real and a lot of people follow it. If it sucked and didn't do jack shit, it wouldn't get the respect that it gets by so many followers of the program. Hell, it went from a bbing board and now it's in Flex mag. DC is doing something right and I give the guy props. He seems like a great guy and it is good that he is getting something out of this sport by helping so many reach their goals.
As for TA and his girl, do what your doing, that's cool. Just dont rag on people that eat healthy and live a true bbing lifestyle. Oh, and I know a lot of ecto's that eat like shit and stay lean, big deal.
hahahaha What a concept.
Cardio does not raise the metabolism for all of you doing it thinking it is speeding up your metabolism.
What a waste
Dante and Adonis are as deluded as each other. Ones a fat bastard that is nothing without the gear; infact is nothing WITH the gear. The other is a skinny kid with an ok build for someone that works out ocaisionally. But what really makes me laugh is that Americans seem to think Big Macs, ice cream and cookies are the height of culinary excellence. It really shows the gulf in class between Europe and the old colonies.
is that right, you loer your calorie intake, so you dont have to do cardio?
fa.g, go fist yourself.Why don't you do it hot stuff :-*
There you go!Cardio is good for the heart, makes you fit and is fun. The only reason people like you don't do it is because you're lazy.
hahahaha What a concept.
Cardio does not raise the metabolism for all of you doing it thinking it is speeding up your metabolism.
What a waste
Exactly it's CARDIOvascular training, it may help you burn extra calories during and briefly afterwards but it doesn't really raise your metabolism. Basically I don't do cardio like I used to but I don't find myself any less lean.
Do it because you'll be fit. I think its insane that the new 'bodybuilding revolution' is eating junk food [its called that for a reason] and not doing cardio. I still think its a prank and Adonis' attempt to do an Arnold.
Exactly it's CARDIOvascular training, it may help you burn extra calories during and briefly afterwards but it doesn't really raise your metabolism. Basically I don't do cardio like I used to but I don't find myself any less lean.
Do it because you'll be fit. I think its insane that the new 'bodybuilding revolution' is eating junk food [its called that for a reason] and not doing cardio. I still think its a prank and Adonis' attempt to do an Arnold.
Do it because you'll be fit. I think its insane that the new 'bodybuilding revolution' is eating junk food [its called that for a reason] and not doing cardio. I still think its a prank and Adonis' attempt to do an Arnold.
I used to do it all the time but have been lazy/beat from lifting. I am in the middle of my first week off from lifting for a full week in 2+ years and plan to come back fresh next week with cardio added to my new routine..thats good man.
Society calls it "junk food", when in reality it is not.You won't be saying that when you're having a heart attack from all the salt you're eating.
There is no such thing as a bad food.
Chicken can be a "junk" food
Junk food is a stupid moniker that is nonsense.
salt causing heart attacks?Clogged arteries
hahhah Who is an ectomorph?
Doggcrapp is a diet guru yet he's ashamed to take his shirt off in pictures because he's fat.
You won't be saying that when you're having a heart attack from all the salt you're eating.
Adonis, i've just read the "Fit for life" page by the firefighter - and he reccomends you only train for 2.5 hours a week - with 2 sets per bodypart. Thats even worse than Dantes bullshit! Come on man, the games up. You've had you're fun. [and the guy on the cover of his book has gyno. Yep, he seems really trustworthy]
hahahaha, 16 inches to 44 inches is pretty bad.
hey genius. Calorie reduction is the only diet proven to extend lifespan and delay age related disease (like heart disease). Healthy bodies have no trouble metabolising salt.Ok 'shiftedshapes'. Then why not lower your calories whilst still eating healthy, low salt foods?
its funny how people who are too lazy to do cardio try to give reasons why it is a waste of time...lol
fact:
when you are doing cardio and glycogen stores are depleted, the body is burning fat.
its funny how people who are too lazy to do cardio try to give reasons why it is a waste of time...lolAt least not everyone on this board has lost all sense of reality. I'm sure Adonis and his cronies are making this shit up as they go along - the rest of them are just morons.
fact:
when you are doing cardio and glycogen stores are depleted, the body is burning fat.
its funny how people who are too lazy to do cardio try to give reasons why it is a waste of time...lol
fact:
when you are doing cardio and glycogen stores are depleted, the body is burning fat.
Ok 'shiftedshapes'. Then why not lower your calories whilst still eating healthy, low salt foods?
You are a joke. We have exposed you for the fraud that you are and anyone reading this website knows it.
We stand as a BASTion. A stronghold against bullshit.
You are not welcome. Everyone with intelligence knows you are a liar and a pathetic joke preying upon peoples insecurities.
The sad thing is you are just as delusional.
Now go scram back to your dying cult. We don`t put up with bullshit and lies here.
Very true, there are many health benefits to cardio.
false Chimps that were on reduced calories with no forced cardio lived longer than chimps that were required to do cardio (on reduced or on normal calories). Do your research before you respond.
false Chimps that were on reduced calories with no forced cardio lived longer than chimps that were required to do cardio (on reduced or on normal calories). Do your research before you respond.Were the chimps strapped to a stairmaster? Ha ha ha, go to bed kid ::)
lol
THE MAKING OF THE TRUE ADONIS
Have been strict dieting since February 28.
The Diet is comprised of 1.5-2.0 grams of protein per lb of bodyweight.
Carb Cycle:Day 1: 175
Day 2: 125
Day 3: 75
Day 4: 150
Day 5: 225
REPEAT
Fats: EFA`s mainly almonds,Olive Oil and/or flax and whatever is in the lean proteins.
Weights are done 5 days a week. Chest,Back,Bis and Tris,Shoulders,Legs (Calves and abs on Sunday)
All lifting is Heavy.
Adjustments will be made if fat loss slows. Such as slightly lowering carb values,going 0 carb for 3 days only,Having a high carb day.
Cardio is done 6 days a week. Right now it is 25 Minutes on the elliptical,30 seconds slow,30 seconds all out,High Intensity. One Cardio session is 4.0 MPH on the treadmill for 25 mintues at a 10 degree incline. That occurs after leg day. For me,Cardio After Quads and Hams is never a problem since it is light cardio.
Adjustments may include upping the time or even 2 cardio sessions a day if necessary.
Also,I may play around with alternating HIT style cardio with Low intensity cardio every other day. For now I will stick with what I got.
THE MAKING OF THE TRUE ADONIS
Needed 75 grams of carbs today.
Meal 1: 46 grams protein
1 serving oatmeal:25 grams
Meal 2: Tuna and egg
1 serving oatmeal
Meal 3: 46 grams protein
15 grams of gatorade
Meal 4: 8 oz of salmon
1 cup brocolli
Meal 5: Tuna,Egg
Brocolli
Meal 6: Tuna,Egg
Meal 7: 46 grams protien
1 oz almonds
So you're saying that there are no health benefits to doing cardio?The new rules of bodybuilding are as follows:
so he's been strict dieting since FEb and is at about 8% BF? I don't have a problem with that but don't you think it's a little deceptive to be dieting really strict for like 7 months then suddenly proclaim that junk food is the way to go? Of course he's gonna be lean after 8 months and lets say he is eating what he says and puts on a little bit of fat, how much different is a guy gonna look going from 8% to 9.5% Not alot. It's easy when you're already starting off in decent shape but it's a different ballgame when you're starting off not so ripped.
yes it is deceptive...i'm sure he also has a fast metabolism and high insulin sensitivity...he can go on a junk food binge for a little while and still be in decent shape, feel fuller and stronger...but it is just a matter of time before it catches up.
those stupid enough to follow that diet and who have slower metablolisms and poor insulin sensitivity will begin gaining bodyfat very quickly.
yes it is deceptive...i'm sure he also has a fast metabolism and high insulin sensitivity...he can go on a junk food binge for a little while and still be in decent shape, feel fuller and stronger...but it is just a matter of time before it catches up.
those stupid enough to follow that diet and who have slower metablolisms and poor insulin sensitivity will begin gaining bodyfat very quickly.
actually he has a very slow metabolism...he claims to eat 1200 calories per day...
Were the chimps strapped to a stairmaster? Ha ha ha, go to bed kid ::)
Wow, what a post, eat like shit.LOL I would be sick and feel like shit if i ate ice cream and donuts all day. Yeah, have a cheat meal here and there, but, to live on that shit, no way.Hi Dante.
Also, DC training is for real and a lot of people follow it. If it sucked and didn't do jack shit, it wouldn't get the respect that it gets by so many followers of the program. Hell, it went from a bbing board and now it's in Flex mag. DC is doing something right and I give the guy props. He seems like a great guy and it is good that he is getting something out of this sport by helping so many reach their goals.
As for TA and his girl, do what your doing, that's cool. Just dont rag on people that eat healthy and live a true bbing lifestyle. Oh, and I know a lot of ecto's that eat like shit and stay lean, big deal.
actually he has a very slow metabolism...he claims to eat 1200 calories per day...
Adonis gets all his info from this book. Love the gyno!
so he's been strict dieting since FEb and is at about 8% BF? I don't have a problem with that but don't you think it's a little deceptive to be dieting really strict for like 7 months then suddenly proclaim that junk food is the way to go? Of course he's gonna be lean after 8 months and lets say he is eating what he says and puts on a little bit of fat, how much different is a guy gonna look going from 8% to 9.5% Not alot. It's easy when you're already starting off in decent shape but it's a different ballgame when you're starting off not so ripped.
lol
THE MAKING OF THE TRUE ADONIS
Have been strict dieting since February 28.
The Diet is comprised of 1.5-2.0 grams of protein per lb of bodyweight.
Carb Cycle:Day 1: 175
Day 2: 125
Day 3: 75
Day 4: 150
Day 5: 225
REPEAT
Fats: EFA`s mainly almonds,Olive Oil and/or flax and whatever is in the lean proteins.
Weights are done 5 days a week. Chest,Back,Bis and Tris,Shoulders,Legs (Calves and abs on Sunday)
All lifting is Heavy.
Adjustments will be made if fat loss slows. Such as slightly lowering carb values,going 0 carb for 3 days only,Having a high carb day.
Cardio is done 6 days a week. Right now it is 25 Minutes on the elliptical,30 seconds slow,30 seconds all out,High Intensity. One Cardio session is 4.0 MPH on the treadmill for 25 mintues at a 10 degree incline. That occurs after leg day. For me,Cardio After Quads and Hams is never a problem since it is light cardio.
Adjustments may include upping the time or even 2 cardio sessions a day if necessary.
Also,I may play around with alternating HIT style cardio with Low intensity cardio every other day. For now I will stick with what I got.
THE MAKING OF THE TRUE ADONIS
Needed 75 grams of carbs today.
Meal 1: 46 grams protein
1 serving oatmeal:25 grams
Meal 2: Tuna and egg
1 serving oatmeal
Meal 3: 46 grams protein
15 grams of gatorade
Meal 4: 8 oz of salmon
1 cup brocolli
Meal 5: Tuna,Egg
Brocolli
Meal 6: Tuna,Egg
Meal 7: 46 grams protien
1 oz almonds
haha...that's that "low carb" ice cream hahahah
DUDE THAT WAS LAST YEARS SHIT DIET.
DONT EVER FOLLOW THAT KIND OF DIET
Ok guys before you trash doggcrapp take a look at the man behind the training program. Now I know Dante doesn't like to show off his pics especially offseason but the guy knows how to put on muscle size! He even considers himself bellow average genetic wise.
it was just posted earlier in the thread. Funny how you didn't start talking about this junk food diet until about 2 weeks ago. I know you were dieting back when you challenged alexx and Arvillia in what eventually turned into the mgb...how long ago was that? You didn't use this diet from the begining or you woulda been bragging about it the whole time.
HAHHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAH What the f**k is that?
FAT FUCKING PIG
I had to see if it worked love.
And work it did!
I call bullshit. You run your mouth way too much to not brag about this earlier, f**k you'll post pic after pic of yourself doing pretty much nothing and you expect people to believe you'd keep you're mouth shut about this.
Like UK Gold pointed out you probably read that book he's been showing and switched up a few weeks ago when you were already in shape...
I had to see if it worked love.
And work it did!
HAHHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAH What the f**k is that?
FAT FUCKING PIG
where can I read about Dante's methods and principles? You guys have peaked my interest.
where can I read about Dante's methods and principles? You guys have peaked my interest.
Oh Brother, Monster Idiocy
Honestly, when its all said and done, 23 pages of this has done nothing but made me curious enough to email DC and see what kind of workout I should start with to begin DC training...thanks TA!
Meal 2: 6-8 chocolate chip, banana, peanut butter pancakes
I want this recipe :P
Peanut butter fits perfect. We eat Almond butter instead.how much peanut butter tho adonis?
I am going to have a Almond Butter and Jelly Sandwhich tommroow or tonite. Thats a damn good idea.
hey TA, how much grams of protein do you get a day? ofcourse you can get lean only eating ice-cream, but what about the muscle loss?
you cant get enough protein from ice-cream. protein is a muscle builder right? im 86kg and i want to cut to the bone. how much should i eat, how can i keep all the muscle?