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Title: Dennis Wolf's calf training: 4 days per week & 48 sets per week?
Post by: jwb on September 06, 2006, 04:21:11 AM
from his site...

mon, tue, thu, fri

standing calf 6 x 20-25

seated calf 6 x 20-25


well he is certainly putting the effort in... overtraining even. twice a week would be plenty IMO

Title: Re: Dennis Wolf's calf training: 4 days per week & 48 sets per week?
Post by: Mars on September 06, 2006, 04:50:10 AM
Maybe he likes training calves?
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf's calf training: 4 days per week & 48 sets per week?
Post by: rocket on September 06, 2006, 04:56:32 AM
Its probably

a:  a lie
or
b:  a response to the fact his calves have not really responded to less
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf's calf training: 4 days per week & 48 sets per week?
Post by: jwb on September 06, 2006, 05:49:28 AM
I'm a big fan of higher rep calf training for people with weak calves rather than trying to use really heavy weights and a partial range but I still think at least 48 hours should be left between sessions...

Those little suckers still need to recover and 24 hours is not a lot of time...
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf's calf training: 4 days per week & 48 sets per week?
Post by: jaejonna on September 06, 2006, 05:52:36 AM
He should probably eat more ice cream and pizza like Daddywaddy
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf's calf training: 4 days per week & 48 sets per week?
Post by: rocket on September 06, 2006, 05:52:51 AM
I should have added

.. and probably doesn't go to failure.
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf's calf training: 4 days per week & 48 sets per week?
Post by: jwb on September 06, 2006, 05:53:41 AM
He should probably eat more ice cream and pizza like Daddywaddy
and post pictures of his wanger on bbing sites as well?
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf's calf training: 4 days per week & 48 sets per week?
Post by: natural al on September 06, 2006, 06:19:33 AM
rip on DC all you want...if I was to abandon training this way entirely I'd still say that this is the most effective calf training technique I've ever encountered, if your calfs don't grow training them DC style you might be dead.
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf's calf training: 4 days per week & 48 sets per week?
Post by: Vince B on September 06, 2006, 09:42:14 AM
Why do the muscles need to 'recover' before training them again? I am not convinced that this is a requirement.
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf's calf training: 4 days per week & 48 sets per week?
Post by: Man of Steel on September 06, 2006, 09:52:15 AM
from his site...

mon, tue, thu, fri

standing calf 6 x 20-25

seated calf 6 x 20-25


well he is certainly putting the effort in... overtraining even. twice a week would be plenty IMO



Volume training on calves is not difficult and considering his "pro bb training regimen" I'm sure his calf sets resemble a 5-yr old child bouncing on a pogo stick.
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf's calf training: 4 days per week & 48 sets per week?
Post by: Wiggs on September 06, 2006, 12:35:52 PM
If that is true then it's time for some site injections or calf inplants
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf's calf training: 4 days per week & 48 sets per week?
Post by: Chick on September 06, 2006, 09:06:39 PM
Why do the muscles need to 'recover' before training them again? I am not convinced that this is a requirement.

It's a requirement if you're looking to BUILD muscle...not have them in a perpetual state of recovery.

Ever notice a bricklayer never has 20" arms?

Title: Re: Dennis Wolf's calf training: 4 days per week & 48 sets per week?
Post by: The True Adonis on September 06, 2006, 09:08:16 PM
Dennis Wolf could rake leaves and gain muscle with as much Drugs as he is on.
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf's calf training: 4 days per week & 48 sets per week?
Post by: Vince B on September 06, 2006, 09:08:52 PM
I don't agree. Bricklayers do not lift heavier and heavier bricks and if they did they would most definitely grow. That is if they ate sufficient calories to support the extra muscle.
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf's calf training: 4 days per week & 48 sets per week?
Post by: Chick on September 06, 2006, 09:12:09 PM
Point is...there would be ZERO advantage to training while muscle is in the process of recovering.
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf's calf training: 4 days per week & 48 sets per week?
Post by: Vince B on September 06, 2006, 09:12:14 PM
A bodybuilder who used to train in my gym 20 years ago sent me a private message and asked about training. I was glad some guys are still keen to learn. We all can learn about training. Anyway, he noticed that fat people had the biggest calves so decided to walk around with more weight attached to his body. He devised a vest where he added small amounts of weight over time and reported that he put 1 1/2 inches on his calves in a few months. That is impressive and demonstrates what I have been suggesting. He didn't do any direct calf training.
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf's calf training: 4 days per week & 48 sets per week?
Post by: Vince B on September 06, 2006, 09:13:24 PM
Where is the evidence that there is nothing to be gained from training a muscle while it is still growing?  
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf's calf training: 4 days per week & 48 sets per week?
Post by: The True Adonis on September 06, 2006, 09:13:43 PM
It's a requirement if you're looking to BUILD muscle...not have them in a perpetual state of recovery.

Ever notice a bricklayer never has 20" arms?



Not true.

Most REAL athletes train year round and keep making progress while in a constant state of recovery.  For instance Olympic athletes.
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf's calf training: 4 days per week & 48 sets per week?
Post by: Chick on September 06, 2006, 09:22:37 PM
Not true.

Most REAL athletes train year round and keep making progress while in a constant state of recovery.  For instance Olympic athletes.


Were talking about building muscle...not improving on a particular type of sport.
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf's calf training: 4 days per week & 48 sets per week?
Post by: Vince B on September 06, 2006, 09:26:09 PM
I love talking about hypertrophy, too. I put over an inch on my calves in a month and trained calves about every second day. I was 58 when I did that experiment.  
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf's calf training: 4 days per week & 48 sets per week?
Post by: The True Adonis on September 06, 2006, 09:26:18 PM
Were talking about building muscle...not improving on a particular type of sport.
A Gymnast must build muscle.  A Decathalete and Pentathelete must gain muscle.

Especially swimmers.
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf's calf training: 4 days per week & 48 sets per week?
Post by: haider on September 06, 2006, 09:26:56 PM
I should have added

.. and probably doesn't go to failure.
failure training is not necessary for growth. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf's calf training: 4 days per week & 48 sets per week?
Post by: Wombat on September 06, 2006, 09:31:54 PM
A bodybuilder who used to train in my gym 20 years ago sent me a private message and asked about training. I was glad some guys are still keen to learn. We all can learn about training. Anyway, he noticed that fat people had the biggest calves so decided to walk around with more weight attached to his body. He devised a vest where he added small amounts of weight over time and reported that he put 1 1/2 inches on his calves in a few months. That is impressive and demonstrates what I have been suggesting. He didn't do any direct calf training.

Yes and we have all seen 300 plus pound fat guys with skinny calves also...Calves are most genetic...As are forarms...
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf's calf training: 4 days per week & 48 sets per week?
Post by: Vince B on September 06, 2006, 09:52:34 PM
Are there any 500 pound people with skinny calves?
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf's calf training: 4 days per week & 48 sets per week?
Post by: Anal Iceman Lubeth on September 06, 2006, 09:54:59 PM
I love talking about hypertrophy, too. I put over an inch on my calves in a month and trained calves about every second day. I was 58 when I did that experiment.  

Getting them up to 12 inches must have made your decade!

Title: Re: Dennis Wolf's calf training: 4 days per week & 48 sets per week?
Post by: Wombat on September 06, 2006, 09:57:20 PM
Are there any 500 pound people with skinny calves?

interesting question, i've seen alot of 350 to 400 pound fat women with cankles....I wonder if they dieted down to 150 pounds, just how big would those calves be...
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf's calf training: 4 days per week & 48 sets per week?
Post by: Bast000 on September 06, 2006, 09:58:15 PM
There are two natural guys that have competed and they train together in my gym doing the same workout.   After competing and gaining for about 5 months the one guy's calves who were very good before got even better (guy is a Beast),  the other's calves were small before and still look the same. Genetics mostly I'm sure.

Also the guy with the awesome calves trains them every other day.
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf's calf training: 4 days per week & 48 sets per week?
Post by: Bast000 on September 06, 2006, 09:59:23 PM
interesting question, i've seen alot of 350 to 400 pound fat women with cankles....I wonder if they dieted down to 150 pounds, just how big would those calves be...

I see 150lbs women with cankles, who need to be 110lbs.
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf's calf training: 4 days per week & 48 sets per week?
Post by: Anal Iceman Lubeth on September 06, 2006, 10:00:31 PM
Are there any 500 pound people with skinny calves?

www.mikearvilla.com
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf's calf training: 4 days per week & 48 sets per week?
Post by: Vince B on September 06, 2006, 10:27:24 PM
My best calf size was 18 1/4 cold. I could pump them up another 1/2 inch at that size.
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf's calf training: 4 days per week & 48 sets per week?
Post by: jwb on September 06, 2006, 11:25:13 PM
It's a requirement if you're looking to BUILD muscle...not have them in a perpetual state of recovery.

Ever notice a bricklayer never has 20" arms?


I'm with Chick on this one...

Twice a week is plenty, even once a week for most muscles including calves.

This guy did 3 sets a WEEK!!!
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf's calf training: 4 days per week & 48 sets per week?
Post by: Bast000 on September 06, 2006, 11:27:21 PM
It's a requirement if you're looking to BUILD muscle...not have them in a perpetual state of recovery.

Ever notice a bricklayer never has 20" arms?



That's because bricklayers burn too many calories and don't use steroids.
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf's calf training: 4 days per week & 48 sets per week?
Post by: Bast000 on September 06, 2006, 11:30:02 PM
There are two natural guys that have competed and they train together in my gym doing the same workout.   After competing and gaining for about 5 months the one guy's calves who were very good before got even better (guy is a Beast),  the other's calves were small before and still look the same. Genetics mostly I'm sure.


Also the guy with the awesome calves trains them every other day.
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf's calf training: 4 days per week & 48 sets per week?
Post by: Vince B on September 07, 2006, 12:29:20 AM
The fact that someone makes gains training less frequently is not in itself proof that it wouldn't happen. What we know is that bodybuilders have a lot of bodyparts to train and to make them grow usually do not train parts everyday.

If some of you want to experiment then try to get a target muscle sore and then keep it sore for a period of at least 2 weeks and see what happens. I know the soreness is controversial but I haven't had many who would give this experiment a go. You could even train one calf one way and the other with a different method and frequency. That is another way to test programs.

The point here is hypertrophy is not a matter of opinion but a phenomenon that can be tested in a lab.
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf's calf training: 4 days per week & 48 sets per week?
Post by: arce377 on September 07, 2006, 01:12:21 AM
BY DICK IS BIGGER THAN BOTH OF HIS CALVES COMBINED!