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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Bast000 on September 07, 2006, 12:55:31 AM
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"Flex loaded up on his favorite training foods (pizza and cheeseburgers) and hit the gym looking round, pumped and super vascular. At 250 pounds of full, rock solid muscle, Flex takes you through three days of gut busting training with eye-popping intensity and sickeningly heavy weights."
source: http://www.mesomorphosis.com/store/videos/flex-wheeler-mass-construction.html
(http://www.garrettdowning.com/images/News/2003/musclecamp03_Flex_Melvin.jpg)
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Flex = SUPERIOR GENETICS!
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Flex = SUPERIOR GENETICS!
Flex = SHADOW OF ONE'S FORMER SELF!
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Once I took lunch with him and he was eating french fried like ronnie.
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Flex = SHADOW OF ONE'S FORMER SELF!
flex=THE MOST HYPED SON OF A BITCH EVER IN PRO BODYBUILDING HISTORY..PERIOD
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flex=THE MOST HYPED SON OF A BITCH EVER IN PRO BODYBUILDING HISTORY..PERIOD
Have you ever seen him on stage?
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Great Video
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Now when you say he didn't eat clean, do you mean he was a messy eater?
Because I know for a fact, that Flex was once measured at Firehouse restaurant in Venice after a meal, at 0.0% mess. The cleanest measurement ever at Firehouse, Venice.
Can't remember who was at the table with him...
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Have you ever seen him on stage?
Dude thiks you have to be a mass monster with a 35 plus inch waist.
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"Flex loaded up on his favorite training foods (pizza and cheeseburgers) and hit the gym looking round, pumped and super vascular. At 250 pounds of full, rock solid muscle, Flex takes you through three days of gut busting training with eye-popping intensity and sickeningly heavy weights."
source: http://www.mesomorphosis.com/store/videos/flex-wheeler-mass-construction.html
(http://www.garrettdowning.com/images/News/2003/musclecamp03_Flex_Melvin.jpg)
Don't believe everything you see and hear. Its all about what you look like on stage that matters.
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umm..I am guessing that when you are on "gear" you can eat about anything you want. Not to deminish what he has accomplished but lets not get a carried away. And no, if I took steroids I would not look like him.
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This is a testament to what superior bb gentics afforded to Flex. He could eat almost anything and still come in at say 90% and still dominate. However, the crazy sodium intake probably hurt him in the long run due to the kidney ailment that he had that forced him to retire.
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However, the crazy sodium intake probably hurt him in the long run due to the kidney ailment that he had that forced him to retire.
So thats what they are calling steroids nowadays ?? "Crazy Sodium"
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Even when you are natural you can eat whatever you want.
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Even when you are natural you can eat whatever you want.
hahaha No one believes you schick anymore Adonis, trying to tell others to eat shitty so that you can have someone tell you that you have good genetics..we all know your starving yourself with protien shakes , chicken breast, and oatmeal ...hahahah
Monster Two Scoops of BS
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Even when you are natural you can eat whatever you want.
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you know what your saying goes against all nutritional science...
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hahaha No one believes you schick anymore Adonis, trying to tell others to eat shitty so that you can have someone tell you that you have good genetics..we all know your starving yourself with protien shakes , chicken breast, and oatmeal ...hahahah
Monster Two Scoops of BS
obviously all that chicken and oatmeal isn't doing anything to make those 13 inch arms of yours grow Mr. Side Triceps.
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you know what your saying goes against all nutritional science...
Surely it doesn`t.
All of YOURS does though.
Such as you need a post-workout shake, you need HIGH protein,You need Creatine and supplements,You need s specified carb intake, You need special carbs, You need a certain amount of Fat. You need to time your carbs.
My diet embraces the fundemental law of Thermodynamics. A PROVEN LAW.
Your garbage is just gym science with little practical application and validity.
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So thats what they are calling steroids nowadays ?? "Crazy Sodium"
Steroids weren't near as important of a factor to his ailment as sodium. Listen to him on PBW. If you know anything about the kidney as a organ you would know that thew kidneys are the body's filters. Sodium was particularly hard on his kidney's because he was BORN WITH THE DISEASE. Sure steroids didn't help but it was mainly the sodium. If you want here is an article at wikipedia that tells off the side-effects of anabolic steroids and none have anything to do with kidneys (because steroids are injected directly into the muscle not the bloodstream hence are not utilkized by the kidneys).
Possible unwanted side effects
Many androgens are metabolized to estrogenic compounds which bind to estrogen receptors, producing additional (usually) unwanted effects:
Possible Elevated blood pressure
Cholesterol levels – Possible Increase in LDL, Decreased HDL levels[4]. This can cause a possible increase in risk of cardiovascular disease[5] or coronary artery disease[6] in men with high risk of bad cholesterol.
Acne– Due to the stimulation of sebaceous gland[7] [8]
Conversion to DHT (Dihydrotestosterone). This can accelerate or cause premature baldness and prostate cancer.
Left ventricle morphology – AAS can induce an unfavourable enlargement and thickening of the left ventricle, which loses its diastolic properties with the mass increase.[9]
Hepatotoxicity – Caused particularly by oral anabolic steroid compounds which are 17-alpha-alkylated in order to not be destroyed by the digestive system.
Gingival overgrowth -AAS is closely associated with significant levels of gingival enlargement.
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Surely it doesn`t.
All of YOURS does though.
Such as you need a post-workout shake, you need HIGH protein,You need Creatine and supplements,You need s specified carb intake, You need special carbs, You need a certain amount of Fat. You need to time your carbs.
My diet embraces the fundemental law of Thermodynamics. A PROVEN LAW.
Your garbage is just gym science with little practical application and validity.
TRUE ADONIS:
2498 Getbig Misc Boards / Pictures of Members & More / Re: Natural BEAST approaching a 20 inch arm. on: March 12, 2006, 09:12:04 PM
My diet for cutting this year is going to probably look something like this:
300-350 grams of protein a day
carbs starting at 400 grams lowering 20-50 grams every 2 weeks or so.
every 10 days-400 grams of carbs
Probably no cardio. Maybe throw it in there last couple of weeks or so.
Fat will come from all lean sources and some nuts.
I mean thats what you said ....not me you ??
diet is more imaginary than your relationship with persons named jezzebelle... hahahaha oh brother
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TRUE ADONIS:
2498 Getbig Misc Boards / Pictures of Members & More / Re: Natural BEAST approaching a 20 inch arm. on: March 12, 2006, 09:12:04 PM
My diet for cutting this year is going to probably look something like this:
300-350 grams of protein a day
carbs starting at 400 grams lowering 20-50 grams every 2 weeks or so.
every 10 days-400 grams of carbs
Probably no cardio. Maybe throw it in there last couple of weeks or so.
Fat will come from all lean sources and some nuts.
I mean thats what you said ....not me you ??
diet is more imaginary than your relationship with persons named jezzebelle... hahahaha oh brother
Originally that was one approach I was considering.
It is a stupid approach and will never use that way.
Its worthless.
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Surely it doesn`t.
All of YOURS does though.
Such as you need a post-workout shake, you need HIGH protein,You need Creatine and supplements,You need s specified carb intake, You need special carbs, You need a certain amount of Fat. You need to time your carbs.
My diet embraces the fundemental law of Thermodynamics. A PROVEN LAW.
Your garbage is just gym science with little practical application and validity.
Yes im saying all that.
Your saying fat, sugar and a low protein diet is going to build muscle and make you cut. ???
im not even going to waste my time arguing with you....
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Originally that was one approach I was considering.
It is a stupid approach and will never use that way.
Its worthless.
What brought about the change then ? Did someone tell you something, did you read it somewhere ... were you forced to eat McDees ?? seriously though
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What brought about the change then ? Did someone tell you something, did you read it somewhere ... were you forced to eat McDees ?? seriously though
No. I just looked at it logically and put it into action.
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I also have the Science to back it up.
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I also have the Science to back it up.
ok shoot. give me your scientific reasoning.
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cite your refs then. post some of the papers. flex was on a ton of gear so he could get away with eating shitty. i dont know why anyone pays attention to you anyway, you look like shit even for a natural.
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cite your refs then. post some of the papers. flex was on a ton of gear so he could get away with eating shitty. i dont know why anyone pays attention to you anyway, you look like shit even for a natural.
hahaha couldnt have put it better myself
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cite your refs then. post some of the papers. flex was on a ton of gear so he could get away with eating shitty. i dont know why anyone pays attention to you anyway, you look like shit even for a natural.
I look WAY WAY WAY better than you ever will and everyone knows it.
If not, Post a picture. Prove it. Thing is, You can`t because you don`t.
I OWN YOU. Now go try in vain and continue to get zero results that you have always been getting.
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I look WAY WAY WAY better than you ever will and everyone knows it.
If not, Post a picture. Prove it. Thing is, You can`t because you don`t.
I OWN YOU. Now go try in vain and continue to get zero results that you have always been getting.
exactly, "usmokepole" is a bitch.
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I also have the Science to back it up.
We are still waiting!.... ::)
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I look WAY WAY WAY better than you ever will and everyone knows it.
If not, Post a picture. Prove it. Thing is, You can`t because you don`t.
I OWN YOU. Now go try in vain and continue to get zero results that you have always been getting.
Umm, that is not science backing up what you're saying. That is your response to anyone who criticises your "method". You have yet to show any real science to back up your claims. Real science is not something from a website, or something from a documentary director, or telling everyone that you look better than them so therefore you are right. Reference a research article published in a peer reviewed journal. Or actually go into the science, tell us the biology behind your logic.
You can't or you would have done so already. And though myself and others have pointed out the holes in your logic and the fundamental falsehood of some of the assumptions you've based your theory on, you have yet to address any of those. All you do is call any argument against you "crazy". If crazy means believing in the scientific method, anecdotal experience and rational thought, then I'll take that over your "truth" any day.
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Umm, that is not science backing up what you're saying. That is your response to anyone who criticises your "method". You have yet to show any real science to back up your claims. Real science is not something from a website, or something from a documentary director, or telling everyone that you look better than them so therefore you are right. Reference a research article published in a peer reviewed journal. Or actually go into the science, tell us the biology behind your logic.
You can't or you would have done so already. And though myself and others have pointed out the holes in your logic and the fundamental falsehood of some of the assumptions you've based your theory on, you have yet to address any of those. All you do is call any argument against you "crazy". If crazy means believing in the scientific method, anecdotal experience and rational thought, then I'll take that over your "truth" any day.
the "science" is in the way he looks you assclown, the man is ripped to shreds.
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Adonis is a 'hard gainer', an ectomorph...he doesnt put on muscle, just can get cut quick..thats his predisposition...he had to get fat to put on muscle, he naturally gets lean when he eats proportionately.
Someone like Hercales would not benefit from the Adonis Principles
...broad strokes of the brush cant paint everyone...
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the "science" is in the way he looks you assclown, the man is ripped to shreds.
its posts like this that makes it so obvious that sarcasm is TA's gimmic account
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Adonis is a 'hard gainer', an ectomorph...he doesnt put on muscle, just can get cut quick..thats his predisposition...he had to get fat to put on muscle, he naturally gets lean when he eats proportionately.
Someone like Hercales would not benefit from the Adonis Principles
...broad strokes of the brush cant paint everyone...
hahhahhah Keep making excuses.
I have been called a fast gainer,hard gainer,slow gainer, you name it on these forums and that is all based on pics I have put up.
I have been as high as 248 lbs before. Fat. But I was there. I was 239 this year before dieting
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hahhahhah Keep making excuses.
I have been called a fast gainer,hard gainer,slow gainer, you name it on these forums and that is all based on pics I have put up.
I have been as high as 248 lbs before. Fat. But I was there. I was 239 this year before dieting
Im just saying your diet wouldnt help all bodytypes....
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Im just saying your diet wouldnt help all bodytypes....
I've been saying that for days.
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I've been saying that for days.
You can`t change the LAW of THERMODYNAMICS.
Of course it will work for everyone. That is the beauty of it.
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The starting point for most thermodynamic considerations are the laws of thermodynamics, which postulate that energy can be exchanged between physical systems as heat or work. They also postulate the existence of a quantity named entropy, which can be defined for any system. In thermodynamics, interactions between large ensembles of objects are studied and categorized. Central to this are the concepts of system and surroundings. A system is composed of particles, whose average motions define its properties, which in turn are related to one another through equations of state. Properties can be combined to express internal energy and thermodynamic potentials are useful for determining conditions for equilibrium and spontaneous processes.
With these tools, thermodynamics describes how systems respond to changes in their surroundings. This can be applied to a wide variety of topics in science and engineering, such as engines, phase transitions, chemical reactions, transport phenomena, and even black holes. The results of thermodynamics are essential for other fields of physics and for chemistry, chemical engineering, cell biology, biomedical engineering, and materials science to name a few.
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History
Sadi Carnot (1796-1832): the "father" of thermodynamicsMain article: History of thermodynamics
A short history of thermodynamics begins with the German scientist Otto von Guericke who in 1650 built and designed the world's first vacuum pump and created the world's first ever vacuum known as the Magdeburg hemispheres. He was driven to make a vacuum in order to disprove Aristotle's long-held supposition that 'Nature abhors a vacuum'. Shortly thereafter, Irish physicist and chemist Robert Boyle had learned of Guericke's designs and in 1656, in coordination with English scientist Robert Hooke, built an air pump. Using this pump, Boyle and Hooke noticed the pressure-temperature-volume correlation. In time, the ideal gas law was formulated. Then, in 1679, based on these concepts, an associate of Boyle's named Denis Papin built a bone digester, which is a closed vessel with a tightly fitting lid that confines steam until a high pressure is generated.
Later designs implemented a steam release valve to keep the machine from exploding. By watching the valve rhythmically move up and down, Papin conceived of the idea of a piston and cylinder engine. He did not however follow through with his design. Nevertheless, in 1697, based on Papin's designs, engineer Thomas Savery built the first engine. Although these early engines were crude and inefficient, they attracted the attention of the leading scientists of the time. One such scientist was Sadi Carnot, the "father of thermodynamics", who in 1824 published “Reflections on the Motive Power of Fire”, a discourse on heat, power, and engine efficiency. This marks the start of thermodynamics as a modern science.
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Classical thermodynamics
Main article: Classical thermodynamics
Classical thermodynamics is the original early 1800s variation of thermodynamics concerned with thermodynamic states, and properties as energy, work, and heat, and with the laws of thermodynamics, all lacking an atomic interpretation. In precursory form, classical thermodynamics derives from physicist Robert Boyle’s 1662 postulate that the pressure P of a given quantity of gas varies inversely as its volume V at constant temperature; i.e. in equation form: PV = k, a constant. From here, a semblance of a thermo-science began to develop with the construction of the first successful atmospheric steam engines in England by Thomas Savery in 1697 and Thomas Newcomen in 1712. The first and second laws of thermodynamics emerged simultaneously in the 1850s, primarily out of the works of William Rankine, Rudolf Clausius, and William Thomson (Lord Kelvin). The latter coined the term thermodynamics in his 1849 publication An Account of Carnot's Theory of the Motive Power of Heat.[1] The first thermodynamic textbook was written in 1859 by William Rankine, a civil and mechanical engineering professor at the University of Glasgow.[2]
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Statistical thermodynamics
Main article: Statistical thermodynamics
With the development of atomic and molecular theories in the late 1800s and early 1900s, thermodynamics was given a molecular interpretation. This field is called statistical thermodynamics, which can be thought of as a bridge between macroscopic and microscopic properties of systems. Essentially, statistical thermodynamics is an approach to thermodynamics situated upon statistical mechanics, which focuses on the derivation of macroscopic results from first principles. It can be opposed to its historical predecessor phenomenological thermodynamics, which gives scientific descriptions of phenomena with avoidance of microscopic details. The statistical approach is to derive all macroscopic properties (temperature, volume, pressure, energy, entropy, etc.) from the properties of moving constituent particles and the interactions between them (including quantum phenomena). It was found to be very successful and thus is commonly used.
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Chemical thermodynamics
Main article: Chemical thermodynamics
Chemical thermodynamics is the study of the interrelation of heat with chemical reactions or with a physical change of state within the confines of the laws of thermodynamics. During the years 1873-76 the American mathematical physicist Willard Gibbs published a series of three papers, the most famous being On the Equilibrium of Heterogeneous Substances, in which he showed how thermodynamic processes could be graphically analyzed, by studying the energy, entropy, volume, temperature and pressure of the thermodynamic system, in such a manner to determine if a process would occur spontaneously. During the early 20th century, chemists such as Gilbert Lewis, Merle Randall, and E. A. Guggenheim began to apply the mathematical methods of Gibbs to the analysis of chemical processes.
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Thermodynamic systems
Main article: System (thermodynamics)
An important concept in thermodynamics is the “system”. A system is the region of the universe under study. A system is separated from the remainder of the universe by a boundary which may be imaginary or not, but which by convention delimits a finite volume. The possible exchanges of work, heat, or matter between the system and the surroundings take place across this boundary. There are five dominant classes of systems:
Isolated Systems – matter and energy may not cross the boundary.
Adiabatic Systems – heat may not cross the boundary.
Diathermic Systems - heat may cross boundary.
Closed Systems – matter may not cross the boundary.
Open Systems – heat, work, and matter may cross the boundary.
For isolated systems, as time goes by, internal differences in the system tend to even out; pressures and temperatures tend to equalize, as do density differences. A system in which all equalizing processes have gone practically to completion, is considered to be in a state of thermodynamic equilibrium.
In thermodynamic equilibrium, a system's properties are, by definition, unchanging in time. Systems in equilibrium are much simpler and easier to understand than systems which are not in equilibrium. Often, when analyzing a thermodynamic process, it can be assumed that each intermediate state in the process is at equilibrium. This will also considerably simplify the situation. Thermodynamic processes which develop so slowly as to allow each intermediate step to be an equilibrium state are said to be reversible processes.
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Thermodynamic parameters
Main article: Conjugate variables (thermodynamics)
The central concept of thermodynamics is that of energy, the ability to do work. As stipulated by the first law, the total energy of the system and its surroundings is conserved. It may be transferred into a body by heating, compression, or addition of matter, and extracted from a body either by cooling, expansion, or extraction of matter. For comparison, in mechanics, energy transfer results from a force which causes displacement, the product of the two being the amount of energy transferred. In a similar way, thermodynamic systems can be thought of as transferring energy as the result of a generalized force causing a generalized displacement, with the product of the two being the amount of energy transferred. These thermodynamic force-displacement pairs are known as conjugate variables. The most common conjugate thermodynamic variables are pressure-volume (mechanical parameters), temperature-entropy (thermal parameters), and chemical potential-particle number (material parameters).
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Thermodynamic instruments
Main article: Thermodynamic instruments
There are two types of thermodynamic instruments, the meter and the reservoir. A thermodynamic meter is any device which measures any parameter of a thermodynamic system. In some cases, the thermodynamic parameter is actually defined in terms of an idealized measuring instrument. For example, the zeroth law states that if two bodies are in thermal equilibrium with a third body, they are also in thermal equilibrium with each other. This principle, as noted by James Maxwell in 1872, asserts that it is possible to measure temperature. An idealized thermometer is a sample of an ideal gas at constant pressure. From the ideal gas law PV=nRT, the volume of such a sample can be used as an indicator of temperature; in this manner it defines temperature. Although pressure is defined mechanically, a pressure-measuring device, called a barometer may also be constructed from a sample of an ideal gas held at a constant temperature. A calorimeter is a device which is used to measure and define the internal energy of a system.
A thermodynamic reservoir is a system which is so large that it does not appreciably alter its state parameters when brought into contact with the test system. It is used to impose a particular value of a state parameter upon the system. For example, a pressure reservoir is a system at a particular pressure, which imposes that pressure upon any test system that it is mechanically connected to. The earth's atmosphere is often used as a pressure reservoir.
It is important that these two types of instruments are distinct. A meter does not perform its task accurately if it behaves like a reservoir of the state variable it is trying to measure. If, for example, a thermometer, were to act as a temperature reservoir it would alter the temperature of the system being measured, and the reading would be incorrect. Ideal meters have no effect on the state variables of the system they are measuring.
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Thermodynamic states
Main article: Thermodynamic state
When a system is at equilibrium under a given set of conditions, it is said to be in a definite state. The state of the system can be described by a number of intensive variables and extensive variables. The properties of the system can be described by an equation of state which specifies the relationship between these variables. State may be thought of as the instantaneous quantitative description of a system with a set number of variables held constant.
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Thermodynamic processes
Main article: Thermodynamic processes
A thermodynamic process may be defined as the energetic evolution of a thermodynamic system proceeding from an initial state to a final state. Typically, each thermodynamic process is distinguished from other processes, in energetic character, according to what parameters, as temperature, pressure, or volume, etc., are held fixed. Furthermore, it is useful to group these processes into pairs, in which each variable held constant is one member of a conjugate pair. The six most common thermodynamic processes are shown below:
An isobaric process occurs at constant pressure.
An isochoric process, or isometric/isovolumetric process, occurs at constant volume.
An isothermal process occurs at a constant temperature.
An isentropic process occurs at a constant entropy.
An isenthalpic process occurs at a constant enthalpy.
An adiabatic process occurs without loss or gain of heat.
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The laws of thermodynamics
Main article: Laws of thermodynamics
In thermodynamics, there are four laws of very general validity, and as such they do not depend on the details of the interactions or the systems being studied. Hence, they can be applied to systems about which one knows nothing other than the balance of energy and matter transfer. Examples of this include Einstein's prediction of spontaneous emission around the turn of the 20th century and current research into the thermodynamics of black holes.
The four laws are:
Zeroth law of thermodynamics, stating that thermodynamic equilibrium is an equivalence relation.
If two thermodynamic systems are in thermal equilibrium with a third, they are also in thermal equilibrium with each other.
First law of thermodynamics, about the conservation of energy
The increase in the energy of a closed system is equal to the amount of energy added to the system by heating, minus the amount lost in the form of work done by the system on its surroundings.
Second law of thermodynamics, about entropy
The total entropy of any isolated thermodynamic system tends to increase over time, approaching a maximum value.
Third law of thermodynamics, about absolute zero temperature
As a system asymptotically approaches absolute zero of temperature all processes virtually cease and the entropy of the system asymptotically approaches a minimum value.
See Bose–Einstein condensate and negative temperature.
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Thermodynamic potentials
Main article: Thermodynamic potentials
As can be derived from the energy balance equation on a thermodynamic system there exist energetic quantities called thermodynamic potentials, being the quantitative measure of the stored energy in the system. The four most well known potentials are:
Internal energy
Helmholtz free energy
Enthalpy
Gibbs free energy
Potentials are used to measure energy changes in systems as they evolve from an initial state to a final state. The potential used depends on the constraints of the system, such as constant temperature or pressure. Internal energy is the internal energy of the system, enthalpy is the internal energy of the system plus the energy related to pressure-volume work, and Helmholtz and Gibbs free energy are the energies available in a system to do useful work when the temperature and volume or the pressure and temperature are fixed, respectively
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Wikipedia is the idiots guide to Thermodynamics. hahhahah
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To simplify it:
Thermodynamics is the study of the inter-relation between heat, work and internal energy of a system.
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You can`t change the LAW of THERMODYNAMICS.
Of course it will work for everyone. That is the beauty of it.
The law of thermodynamics has nothing to do with this.
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The system being the body,The heat(calories which is a unit of energy/heat) Work(Training,calories burned per day) and internal Energy of a system(Stored energy/Fat)
If you can re write the LAWS OF THERMODYNAMICS than you can prove my methodology wrong.
hahhahhah Good Luck.
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The law of thermodynamics has nothing to do with this.
Oh, and I do look better than you. I have legs, a chest and forearms.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v33/El_Spiko/090706006.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v33/El_Spiko/090706005.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v33/El_Spiko/090706003.jpg)
And I realise I am now opening myself to a lto of flaming. Oh well. Let the games begin! :P
Wtf is that?
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the "science" is in the way he looks you assclown, the man is ripped to shreds.
http://www.arthurdevany.com/archives/2005/06/thermodynamics.html (http://www.arthurdevany.com/archives/2005/06/thermodynamics.html)
hahahaha thats TA's guru !!!
Here is what he looks like !!!
Same place where Daddywaddy takes his pics !! hahahah
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The law of thermodynamics has nothing to do with this.
Oh, and I do look better than you. I have legs, a chest and forearms.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v33/El_Spiko/090706006.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v33/El_Spiko/090706005.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v33/El_Spiko/090706003.jpg)
And I realise I am now opening myself to a lto of flaming. Oh well. Let the games begin! :P
hahahahahahahaha, you call that legs and chest? you look like you've never lifted weights in your life.
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El Spiko you just own3d yourself kid...
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http://www.arthurdevany.com/archives/2005/06/thermodynamics.html (http://www.arthurdevany.com/archives/2005/06/thermodynamics.html)
hahahaha thats TA's guru !!!
Here is what he looks like !!!
Same place where Daddywaddy takes his pics !! hahahah
i wasn't talking about that guy i was talking about Adonis.
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The system being the body,The heat(calories which is a unit of energy/heat) Work(Training,calories burned per day) and internal Energy of a system(Stored energy/Fat)
If you can re write the LAWS OF THERMODYNAMICS than you can prove my methodology wrong.
hahhahhah Good Luck.
So you basically espouse Mentzer's "a calorie is a calorie" approach?
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Mentzer was also known for his adoption of the approach that "a calorie is a calorie", and would often torment bodybuilders who were strictly dieting, by freely eating Danishes and other off-limit foods close to competitions.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Mentzer
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i wasn't talking about that guy i was talking about Adonis.
I know you were talking about Adonis, but this dude wrote the book on Thermodynamics and Muscle and this is what he looks like...which is very lean , but as impressive as Elspiko if you ask me..
and there will be an updated Mr. Side Tri pic very soon ....maybe tonight!
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Are you any relation to DaddyWaddy?
No.
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If you saw daddywaddy in person, he would deny being himself too
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LMAO, that pic is blurred and dark as hell AND with good reason!
Sorry but T.A(what a dumd name cause he ain't no Adonis) has got you beat.
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I also have the Science to back it up.
LOL POST OF THE YEAR! I also put forth that sarcasm, if he isn't a gimmick account, is the stupidest poster on getbig next to Moronis.
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El Spiko you just own3d yourself kid...
Eh, had to happen eventually :P
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No. I just looked at it logically and put it into action.
well actually I told you that your diet was BS and that all you needed to do was lower your calories and eat 2-3 reasonable sized meals of satisfying foods. I also told you that most of the mass you put on while you were bulking was fat and that all of the bulking probably didn't help you to gain any muscle. Apparently you didn't listen to me.
So you may have ultimately found the way yourself but your path would have been hastened if you learned how to listen to others.
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Another thread hi jacked by Total Asshole and his cronies.
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Another thread hi jacked by Total Asshole and his cronies.
hey genius the thread was started by a "cronie" (ironically this is the nickname bestowed on Calorie Reduction with Optimal Nutrition, CRON, proponnents which is what the squad has turned into) as a demonstration of their philosophy.
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hey genius the thread was started by a "cronie" (ironically this is the nickname bestowed on Calorie Reduction with Optimal Nutrition, CRON, proponnents which is what the squad has turned into) as a demonstration of their philosophy.
hahhah yes.
Shifted Shapes is also a Genius.
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hahhah yes.
Shifted Shapes is also a Genius.
This guy too!!
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This is a testament to what superior bb gentics afforded to Flex. He could eat almost anything and still come in at say 90% and still dominate. However, the crazy sodium intake probably hurt him in the long run due to the kidney ailment that he had that forced him to retire.
ALL SALT.
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ALL SALT.
not enough iodized SALT:
(http://www.paul_smith.doctors.org.uk/images/cretin.jpg)
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LMAO, that pic is blurred and dark as hell AND with good reason!
Sorry but T.A(what a dumd name cause he ain't no Adonis) has got you beat.
You're right, it is a bad pic. T.A. baited me and I did something stupid to embarrass myself. Oh well, shoulda known better. Can't post a crappy pic and expect anything but crap. Since it obviously doesn't add to the discussion (as it were) and frankly I feel a little embarrassed, I'm removing them from the post.
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nah dont be. i think you have a better build than TA. TA is lanky. You have some mass there.
crappy quality pic and dark though
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nah dont be. i think you have a better build than TA. TA is lanky. You have some mass there.
hahaha yea right.
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You're right, it is a bad pic. T.A. baited me and I did something stupid to embarrass myself. Oh well, shoulda known better. Can't post a crappy pic and expect anything but crap. Since it obviously doesn't add to the discussion (as it were) and frankly I feel a little embarrassed, I'm removing them from the post.
I owned you without saying a word.
Perhaps you need to start training hard and eating at Burger Kings and Macadoonalds.
Clearly I outclass you.
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hey genius the thread was started by a "crone" (ironically this is the nickname bestowed on Calorie Reduction with Optimal Nutrition, CRON, proponents which is what the squad has turned into) as a demonstration of their philosophy.
Oh I see and out in the real world, when you crawl out from behind the monitor, and head out of your parents basement, all this squad and CRON means?
Try living in the real world its a big one really and where no one gives a rats ass about your crap.
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I really do not have a thing against the way Adonis has decided to train himself. Like everything in America choice is nice and it is very interesting what he finds works and what he finds doesn't work. But this thread was not about Adonis it was about Flex Wheeler and it seems every thread turns into an Adonis or a Arvilla thread. Just gets a little tiresome, but I suppose all I have to do is click somewhere else.
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Eating extreme amounts of food is so old school. If you look at Jay Cutler (#2 in the world) the only difference between his on and offseason diet is basically the quantity of food (measurements) and the amount of beef in the diet. The food choices are extremely similar and not really considered dirty. I think one should eat around their own genetic potential but, under no circumstances rely on processed fast food BS to gain muscle. Muscle responds so much better to whole foods, thats why so many new bodybuilders are not going as crazy in the offseason as they used to. Eat to get big, not fat.
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Oh I see and out in the real world, when you crawl out from behind the monitor, and head out of your parents basement, all this squad and CRON means?
Try living in the real world its a big one really and where no one gives a rats ass about your crap.
Hey genius CRON is the only diet proven to increase longevity. It has received front page coverage from all of the major news outlets.
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Hey genius CRON is the only diet proven to increase longevity. It has received front page coverage from all of the major news outlets.
EXACTLY!
It is the ONLY thing EVER proven to increase ones lifespan.
And guess what. You can do it eating Big Macs. hahahahahahahah
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How about you go off the steroids NOW for a year and challenge me.
Now THAT I want to do.
I will show you that you are nothing but the drugs you are on.
You will recieve the biggest wakeup call of your life.
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How about you go off the steroids NOW for a year and challenge me.
Now THAT I want to do.
I will show you that you are nothing but the drugs you are on.
You will recieve the biggest wakeup call of your life.
Who are you talking to?
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At least Chick just PROVED MY DIET CORRECT!
He said he got in that condition and size at 15 by just eating school lunches!!!!!!
Thanks Chick for Validating everything I have posted.
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TA i really think your loosing it....your posting is out of control 24/7 ......the gimmick diet thing, your legendary BS.... your quite the annoying lil red neck arent ya ?
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umm..I am guessing that when you are on "gear" you can eat about anything you want. Not to deminish what he has accomplished but lets not get a carried away. And no, if I took steroids I would not look like him.
When you're 250+ pounds of muscle you can eat whatever you want. Can you imagine the metabolism rate at that level of muscularity. I bet these guys can eat 5000 calories plus a day and not get fat and that's a lot of pizza or burgers.
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When you're 250+ pounds of muscle you can eat whatever you want. Can you imagine the metabolism rate at that level of muscularity. I bet these guys can eat 5000 calories plus a day and not get fat and that's a lot of pizza or burgers.
So the same is true with someone with the muscle mass of 120 lbs,175lbs,210,lbs and so on.
Thanks for validation.
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When you're 250+ pounds of muscle you can eat whatever you want. Can you imagine the metabolism rate at that level of muscularity. I bet these guys can eat 5000 calories plus a day and not get fat and that's a lot of pizza or burgers.
haha you just contradicted what you said earlier.
Of coure they can eat more caloires because they have more muscle. So a smaller person could eat pizza and bugers as well, just LESS.
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I owned you without saying a word.
Perhaps you need to start training hard and eating at Burger Kings and Macadoonalds.
Clearly I outclass you.
I am not as cut as you, but that is also not my goal at the moment. I stay lean enough that my abs are visible when I look in the mirror and focus on adding more muscle. You are very lean, and that is a great accomplishment. But I would still contend that I am more muscular than you. Regardless, it would be a pointless argument given that I do not at the moment have someone to take a steady pic of me in some good lighting. The pic was bad, but my physique is something I am very happy with. I am not ashamed of it. I am making the progress I want and am maintaining decent enough conditioning in the process. I was embarrassed because I got into a pissing contest with you about who looks better. It doesn't matter. What I have been doing has been working for me, and what you have been doing has worked for you. That doesn't mean that when applying either of our methods to other people that they will see the same results. I know that my diet and training is not suited to everyone. I have found what works for me the best right now, but I don't tell anyone else that it is the only way.
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I am not as cut as you, but that is also not my goal at the moment. I stay lean enough that my abs are visible when I look in the mirror and focus on adding more muscle. You are very lean, and that is a great accomplishment. But I would still contend that I am more muscular than you. Regardless, it would be a pointless argument given that I do not at the moment have someone to take a steady pic of me in some good lighting. The pic was bad, but my physique is something I am very happy with. I am not ashamed of it. I am making the progress I want and am maintaining decent enough conditioning in the process. I was embarrassed because I got into a pissing contest with you about who looks better. It doesn't matter. What I have been doing has been working for me, and what you have been doing has worked for you. That doesn't mean that when applying either of our methods to other people that they will see the same results. I know that my diet and training is not suited to everyone. I have found what works for me the best right now, but I don't tell anyone else that it is the only way.
El spiko is made of exotic matter that violates the second law of thermodynamics so he needs to keep a different diet than the rest of us. Maybe that also explains how he can be muscular and appear to be skinny-fat in photographs. Physicists could leanr a lot from studying this unique specimen.
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El spiko is made of exotic matter that violates the second law of thermodynamics so he needs to keep a different diet than the rest of us. Maybe that also explains how he can be muscular and appear to be skinny-fat in photographs. Physicists could leanr a lot from studying this unique specimen.
Flex was awesome! (just to get back on track)
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El spiko is made of exotic matter that violates the second law of thermodynamics so he needs to keep a different diet than the rest of us. Maybe that also explains how he can be muscular and appear to be skinny-fat in photographs. Physicists could leanr a lot from studying this unique specimen.
Truly an anomaly. hahhahahah
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Flex was awesome! (just to get back on track)
right he was awesome because he took huge quantities of drugs and had good natural shape. He didn't train hard and he ate like shit. With the right genetics you can look like a smaller version of flex without any drugs and without any of the BBing OCD force feeding and constant supplementation.
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right he was awesome because he took huge quantities of drugs and had good natural shape. He didn't train hard and he ate like shit. With the right genetics you can look like a smaller version of flex without any drugs and without any of the BBing OCD force feeding and constant supplementation.
you sure about him not training hard?
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Flex = SUPERIOR GENETICS!
My view of superior genetics is a muscular person with natural shape and size who does not need to take drugs to be muscular. If you are a 98lb weakling by nature like Flex is without the drugs, I would not call those superior genetics.
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THIS VIDEO WAS FILMED RIGHT AFTER THE OLYMPIA. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HERE HAS EVER BEEN ONSTAGE. BUT FOR MAYBE 2 WEEKS AFTER THE SHOW YOU CAN EAT WHATEVER YOU WANT AND YOU JUST LOOK FULLER AND MORE VASCULAR WITHIN A FEW MINUTES CAUSE YOU'RE STILL IN SHAPE.
WHY WOULD ANYBODY EAT CLEAN AFTER A SHOW? I COULDN'T WAIT TO EAT AFTER MINE. FUCK I'D EAT STRAIGHT AFTER PREJUDGING.
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you sure about him not training hard?
hard is a relative term. Yeah he trained hard compared to the fat cows that graze at the dunkin donuts next to your local curves, but compared to Ronnie he is a poof.
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Off topic but in term's of genetic shape and muscular as a youth at 17-18 yrs old and probably both didn't diet hardcore bbing at that stage ,eddie robinson,shawn ray,priest.
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I remember reading about a certain group of people who were studied for their long lifespans. These people ate very low calorie diets but they combined them with excellent nutrition. The whole idea of Cron or calorie restriction is calorie restriction with optimal nutrition for the best results. I'd imagine if you restricted your calories but got your "nutrition" from pastries, transfats, etc. you'd cancel out any real benefits to be had by the calorie restricted diet.
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the "science" is in the way he looks you assclown, the man is ripped to shreds.
anyone can be ripped if you don't eat, first of all he is not ripped, 2nd he looks like shit , he had no business posting in a BB but should be posting on the swimmers board, you are indeed brain dead
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anyone can be ripped if you don't eat, first of all he is not ripped, 2nd he looks like shit , he had no business posting in a BB but should be posting in the swimmers board, you are indeed brain dead
I am in single digit bodyfat. hahhahhah And getting leaner.
I will be 3 percent eventually and BIGGER.
In fact, I am already BIGGER AND LEANER than you.
If you don`t agree, then post a picture.
hahhahahahah
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I am in single digit bodyfat. hahhahhah And getting leaner.
I will be 3 percent eventually and BIGGER.
In fact, I am already BIGGER AND LEANER than you.
If you don`t agree, then post a picture.
hahhahahahah
now I know that you are out of your mind, you have not a clue what I look like , you are not even close to be leaner or bigger than me you are not even in the same planet to comapre you self to me, when you show a pic of you joining the 245 lbs at 3.8% bf club ( that would be whne you become a man) then you can talk all the garbage you whant ha ha ha a we have been invaded by a nerd
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now I know that you are out of your mind, you have not a clue what I look like , you are not even close to be leaner or bigger than me you are not even in the same planet to comapre you self to me, when you show a pic of you joining the 245 lbs at 3.8% bf club ( that would be whne you become a man) then you can talk all the garbage you whant ha ha ha a we have been invaded by a nerd
I would never want to be 245 3.8 percent sorry.
That is for DRUG USERS ONLY.
Admit it. I am better than you. Until you post a picture that says otherwise, we all can take this as a fact.
You are a joke.
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I would never want to be 245 3.8 percent sorry.
That is for DRUG USERS ONLY.
Admit it. I am better than you. Until you post a picture that says otherwise, we all can take this as a fact.
You are a joke.
hahahaha, "ricosauve" is the type of skinny mexican who talks the local steroid dealer into selling him some Crisco poured into a test bottle and then cuts his fingers trying to get the cap off the bottle and then gets nervous and drops the needle on the floor and steps on it, hahahaha, brutal genetics.
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I would never want to be 245 3.8 percent sorry.
That is for DRUG USERS ONLY.
Admit it. I am better than you. Until you post a picture that says otherwise, we all can take this as a fact.
You are a joke.
don't feel the need to post a pic just so I can shut you trap, you just don't get it, you are delusional, you get OWNED in every tread that you open you trap "I am better than you" statement as such show it all. change you name to swimmer bc if you lose you argument you allway blame it on drugs. once more i don't relay have to show that you are delusion you doing a realy god job on you own
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hahahaha, "ricosauve" is the type of skinny mexican who talks the local steroid dealer into selling him some Crisco poured into a test bottle and then cuts his fingers trying to get the cap off the bottle and then gets nervous and drops the needle on the floor and steps on it, hahahaha, brutal genetics.
it sound like a personal experince to me
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hahahaha, "ricosauve" is the type of skinny mexican who talks the local steroid dealer into selling him some Crisco poured into a test bottle and then cuts his fingers trying to get the cap off the bottle and then gets nervous and drops the needle on the floor and steps on it, hahahaha, brutal genetics.
I wouldn't tell 240 lbs skiny
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hahaha, 3 posts in a row meltdown.