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SACRAMENTO — In the sanctuary of his Capitol office with an audio recorder rolling, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger describes Republican legislators as the "wild bunch" and, referring to a Latina lawmaker, casually says that "black blood" mixed with "Latino blood" equals "hot" — a fiery personality.
The governor is heard on a six-minute recording of a meeting with some members of his inner circle last spring. It's unclear why the session was taped, but Schwarzenegger occasionally records private meetings so that speechwriters, in particular, can keep a record of his thoughts and cadence. This audio recording mainly consists of relaxed banter among Schwarzenegger and a few aides, and it offers an unusually candid look at his administration when the doors are closed.
On the recording, Schwarzenegger's Democratic chief of staff, Susan Kennedy, says Assembly Republican leader George Plescia of San Diego resembles a startled deer. That draws a chuckle from the Republican governor, who a moment earlier had referred to Plescia's predecessor, Assemblyman Kevin McCarthy, as "Bakersfield boy."
But Kennedy offers praise for Assemblywoman Bonnie Garcia, the lone Latina Republican in the Legislature. The governor and Kennedy debate her ethnicity, and Schwarzenegger opines that whether she is Cuban or Puerto Rican doesn't matter much.
"I mean, they are all very hot," the governor says. "They have the, you know, part of the black blood in them and part of the Latino blood in them that together makes it."
He goes on to recall a former weightlifter and competitor, Cuban-born Sergio Oliva. "He was like that," Schwarzenegger says.
Garcia and McCarthy called the conversation irrelevant, even funny, when contacted by The Times on Thursday. Plescia had no comment.
Garcia said the conversation didn't bother her in the least. She called herself an "unpolished politician" and said Schwarzenegger had shown nothing but respect for her.
"I love the governor because he is a straight talker just like I am," Garcia said. "Very often I tell him, 'Look, I am a hot-blooded Latina.' I label myself a hot-blooded Latina that is very passionate about the issues, and this is kind of an inside joke that I have with the governor."
Margita Thompson, a spokeswoman for Schwarzenegger, issued this statement: "This is a small part of a long conversation that is taken totally out of context. The governor respects every member of the Legislature and holds them in the highest regard. It is not uncommon for him to have fun and joke with the members while they're working, especially during very tense negotiations."
The meeting probably took place in the Ronald Reagan Cabinet Room, the governor's de facto office that adjoins his smaller official quarters. The conference room faces east toward lush Capitol Park and has a long conference table that serves as a giant desk. The sword from Schwarzenegger's movie "Conan the Barbarian" rests on a nearby table.
Participants were Kennedy, who was Cabinet secretary under former Gov. Gray Davis; Gary Delsohn, a former Sacramento Bee reporter and author who recently became Schwarzenegger's chief speechwriter; and Walter Von Huene, a former TV director who is a close friend of the governor. Von Huene, a fellow cigar smoker and chess partner of Schwarzenegger, also serves as an informal speech coach.
Schwarzenegger's voice is heard first on the recording. He teases Delsohn and lavishly praises Kennedy as the conversation begins, suggesting that he knows the recording device is on. He calls Kennedy a "major, major champion."
"Got that on tape?" Kennedy says.
"It's on tape," Delsohn answers.
The free-flowing conversation took place amid negotiations over the governor's proposals for a giant public works package. At the time, Schwarzenegger's own party was resisting the sheer size of the plan — the largest in state history — which entailed tens of billions of dollars in borrowing. They eventually settled on a package worth $37 billion, placed on the November ballot.
On the recording, Kennedy and Schwarzenegger review an exchange between Kennedy and McCarthy, the Central Valley lawmaker who was then the lead negotiator for the Assembly's Republicans.
"You really pissed him off," Schwarzenegger said. "But you know something? You pissed him off because it hit home. That's why it pissed him off. People always get irritated; always when you hit something that is the truth, that's when people flame out."
Schwarzenegger says he had to control himself, and tried to be "really gentle" in the day's negotiations with his fellow Republicans. He calls it "dancing the dance."
But he says to Kennedy: "Anyway, so you hit him, you hit Bakersfield boy hard today," referring to McCarthy, who had warned against upsetting the Legislature's minority Republicans.
The governor goes on to describe the negotiating session:
"And then all of a sudden she comes in out of nowhere. She says, 'Yeah, but you are f------ the governor. Everything that means something to us, you're not including."
Kennedy replies: "I couldn't help it. I could not stay quiet."
Schwarzenegger: "I stayed quiet."
Kennedy then says that McCarthy, who is leaving the Assembly this year, ignored the governor's specific requests on transportation funding.
"He doesn't care. There's no price," Kennedy says. "Anyway, don't get me started again. I am glad he's running for Congress."
McCarthy, who in June won the GOP primary for the 22nd Congressional District, said Thursday that the conversation was typical of the honest back-and-forth that was occurring at the time.
"I thought it was funny," McCarthy said when told of the exchange about him between Schwarzenegger and Kennedy. "What is on that tape is no different than what we said to one another" during private negotiations, he said.
On the recording, someone then asks about Plescia, who had been elected Assembly Republican leader but ceded negotiations on the infrastructure bonds to McCarthy. Kennedy dismisses him.
"Plescia looks like the deer that keeps getting caught in my yard when I leave the gate open," said Kennedy, who owns a home in Marin County.
Kennedy then apparently makes a face, and the governor laughs.
"Great look. I love it," Schwarzenegger says. "There was the Academy Award right there."
Kennedy says Plescia has "big eyes that just kinda like stare like a Stepford wife. He's a good-looking guy. Happy. Perky."
Schwarzenegger then turns to analyzing whether Plescia can "control that wild bunch upstairs" — the Assembly's Republicans — "because that is like a very, uh, unique, uh, unruly bunch of guys and girls."
They move on to Garcia, a Cathedral City lawmaker who is the daughter of Puerto Rican immigrants. On her website, Garcia is described as "born on the Lower East Side of New York to teen parents."
"Bonnie Garcia is great," Kennedy says on the recording. "She's a ball-buster. She's great. Is she Puerto Rican?"
"She seems to me like Cuban," Schwarzenegger says.
"She's not Mexican," Kennedy replies.
"No," the governor agrees.
"But she said something," Kennedy says, "and I thought, I thought she was Puerto Rican."
Then Schwarzenegger offers a theory.
"She maybe is Puerto Rican or the same thing as Cuban. I mean, they are all very hot. They have the, you know, part of the black blood in them and part of the Latino blood in them that together makes it."
Schwarzenegger then drifts off into a conversation about Oliva, who once was one of Schwarzenegger's great rivals.
As Schwarzenegger waxes nostalgic about Oliva, Kennedy abruptly says in the background: "I'm leaving."
Conversation trails off, and the recording ends.
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Nice.
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Segio still lurks in the head of Arnold after all these years ...hahah OliviOwn3d
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and here are my parents saying Schwarzenegger is dumb ::)
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Damn that's pretty cool, never forgot his roots.
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Damn that's pretty cool, never forgot his roots.
He dyes his hair so often how can't he.
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SACRAMENTO — In the sanctuary of his Capitol office with an audio recorder rolling, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger describes Republican legislators as the "wild bunch" and, referring to a Latina lawmaker, casually says that "black blood" mixed with "Latino blood" equals "hot" — a fiery personality.
Racist meltdown
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Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's campaign is scrambling to contain the fallout from remarks caught on tape in which he referred to a Latina legislator, Assemblywoman Bonnie Garcia, as fiery because of her ``Latin blood'' and ``black blood.''
Schwarzenegger apologized, saying ``It's one thing to say things and another to read it in the papers. When I read it, it made me cringe, it made me feel uncomfortable.''
The remarks were included in six minutes of tape from a March 3 speech-writing session with the governor and his advisers.
On it, Schwarzenegger and Chief of Staff Susan Kennedy speak fondly of Garcia and speculate about her nationality.
``I mean Cuban, Puerto-Rican, they are all very hot,'' the governor said on the recording. ``They have the, you know, part of the black blood in them and part of the Latino blood in them that together makes it.''
Garcia, a Cathedral City Republican who is Puerto Rican, dismissed the remarks in a joint appearance with Schwarzenegger today in Santa Monica, saying ``there really is no reason to apologize. I was not offended . . . I am not mad; he recognized I'm passionate about the issues.''
Critics, though, are condemning the remarks, saying his apology didn't go far enough. Latina activist Dolores Huerte said the Latino community will ``take to heart how they're being abused by this governor.''
Congresswoman Hilda Solis, of East Los Angeles, said, ``He apologized, but I don't think it was heartfelt.''
Solis also dismissed Garcia's remarks.
``We know she would protect and defend the governor because she's a Republican,'' Solis said. ``But it really doesn't fly. The rest of us know how he meant it and how we'll take it.''
Democratic challenger Phil Angelides said Schwarzenegger ``embarrassed'' the state. ``His comments reflect a disturbing pattern of behavior. The governor has a responsibility to conduct himself with dignity.''
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Nice that he still talks about the old days. He still remembers his roots.
What is the big deal about calling a Rep hot? Isn't that still a compliment? What is even sadder is that Arnold apologized for the remarks. Geez...are people supposed to censor every word that comes out of their mouths even in private meetings?
Jayhawk
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He dyes his hair so often how can't he.
Whats wrong with that?
Hey he's got hair right,might as well keep it looking good, until the time for the combover effect or Shawn spray on hair
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HAHAHAHA...Arnold is right Puerto Ricans are fucking hot...I married one....
my bitch is in the middle :P
(http://www.caribbean-women.com/pictures/dominican_women194.jpg)
(http://static.flickr.com/42/99746863_64e7ed728e_o.jpg)
(http://tridentbeauties.com/pictures/zuleyka1.jpg)
:o
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Puerto Ricans look like trannies
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Arnold loves them malatos!! He would trade that Kennedy broad for a nice dirty hoodrat in a heartbeat.
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Puerto Ricans look like trannies
Haha obv you get with ugly tranny looking puerto ricans then.
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Arnold loves them malatos!! He would trade that Kennedy broad for a nice dirty hoodrat in a heartbeat.
hahahaha....! lmao @ "hoodrat" ;D
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Typical racist Republican.
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Nice that he still talks about the old days. He still remembers his roots.
What is the big deal about calling a Rep hot? Isn't that still a compliment? What is even sadder is that Arnold apologized for the remarks. Geez...are people supposed to censor every word that comes out of their mouths even in private meetings?
Jayhawk
you created an account just to defend Arnold.....dude get a life
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you created an account just to defend Arnold.....dude get a life
hahahaahahahahh probably an Iron Age clone.
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hahahaahahahahh probably an Iron Age clone.
yea, all they do is worship Arnold, like he justifies wasting all the time and money they put into lifting weights. He was an asshole, didn't go to his fathers funeral, kept by gay men in the 70's, can't act, Republican pawn, now a democrate, dyed hair, plastic surgery face lift, no talent, ex-roid head.
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Critics, though, are condemning the remarks, saying his apology didn't go far enough. Latina activist Dolores Huerte said the Latino community will ``take to heart how they're being abused by this governor.''
Congresswoman Hilda Solis, of East Los Angeles, said, ``He apologized, but I don't think it was heartfelt.''
Solis also dismissed Garcia's remarks.
``We know she would protect and defend the governor because she's a Republican,'' Solis said. ``But it really doesn't fly. The rest of us know how he meant it and how we'll take it.''
Democratic challenger Phil Angelides said Schwarzenegger ``embarrassed'' the state. ``His comments reflect a disturbing pattern of behavior. The governor has a responsibility to conduct himself with dignity.''
Just another example of why our society is going to shit.
1) It was a private conversation.
2) He was speaking positively about the person in question, and obviously meant nothing in a derogatory way.
3) The person he was talking about was not offended.
4) He apologized, even though in my opinion no apology was necessary.
And the assholes still aren't satisfied. >:( "Freedom of speech" really doesn't exist in America anymore, does it? :(
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Just another example of why our society is going to shit.
1) It was a private conversation.
2) He was speaking positively about the person in question, and obviously meant nothing in a derogatory way.
3) The person he was talking about was not offended.
4) He apologized, even though in my opinion no apology was necessary.
And the assholes still aren't satisfied. >:( "Freedom of speech" really doesn't exist in America anymore, does it? :(
Wrong.
1) wasn't a private conversation when the "governor" knew it was being taped
2) It's derogatory when you name two countries and then You refer to them as" both being the same thing"...(u should know better)
3) The person he was talking about was not offended?? she still is a Republican.
4)It was necesary to apologize(though he probably didn't feel it in his heart) when that comment can cost him his re-election.
(remember he has a team on his back to tell him how to "fix and clean" some dangerous issues)
Freedom of speech does exist, for you and me.....but if you want people to vote" for you....you better watch your mouth!!
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Freedom of speech does exist, for you and me.....
No it doesn't... the same ridiculous oversensitivity exists in general society as well... in jobs, schools, associations, really any public forum. About the only place left where you're allowed to express yourself anymore is on anonymous message boards like Getbig. >:(
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yea, all they do is worship Arnold, like he justifies wasting all the time and money they put into lifting weights. He was an asshole, didn't go to his fathers funeral, kept by gay men in the 70's, can't act, Republican pawn, now a democrate, dyed hair, plastic surgery face lift, no talent, ex-roid head.
He has accomplished more in his life than you can ever dream of doing. If he has no talent as you say what does that make an unkown like you? ::)
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He has accomplished more in his life than you can ever dream of doing. If he has no talent as you say what does that make an unkown like you?
Accomplishments have nothing to do with his persona, which is equally interesting and repugnant. He's more interesting than most public figures, but is also a creep.
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I can't wait for him to explain why blacks dominate sports.....
You see the slave owners bred the biggest blackest men with the large black woman and they made the bigger stronger slaves.. that why the black is the better athlete. It's fantastic.
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Someone get an audio of this!
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am i the only one that didnt read that all?
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Accomplishments have nothing to do with his persona, which is equally interesting and repugnant. He's more interesting than most public figures, but is also a creep.
I think Arnold was immature and spoiled. I think he has grown up. I wouldn't call him a creep. I would say a more accurate description would be that at times he acted like a jerk before he grew up a bit.
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Accomplishments have nothing to do with his persona, which is equally interesting and repugnant. He's more interesting than most public figures, but is also a creep.
He also said he had no talent. Obviously he had some positive attributes.
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HAHAHAHA...Arnold is right Puerto Ricans are fucking hot...I married one....
my bitch is in the middle :P
(http://www.caribbean-women.com/pictures/dominican_women194.jpg)
(http://static.flickr.com/42/99746863_64e7ed728e_o.jpg)
(http://tridentbeauties.com/pictures/zuleyka1.jpg)
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LOL @ my bitch is in the middle
C'mon on down to New York bro its a fucking whore house ;D
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Racist meltdown
monster politically correct sensitivity.
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by racism do you mean the ability to tell the difference between different races? that all it seemed like to me
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They played the tape on Stern this morning
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I think Arnold was immature and spoiled. I think he has grown up. I wouldn't call him a creep. I would say a more accurate description would be that at times he acted like a jerk before he grew up a bit.
Maybe he's learned to hide it better. The latest harassment episode with the BBC reporter was settled only a few weeks ago, plus there are all the trivial stories that don't get much publicity. This tape wouldn't exist if he knew better.
Parts of the tape..the woman he's talking to almost seems to be trying to lead him to say things:
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California police are probing if computer hackers illegally downloaded a private taped conversation of Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger from state computers, a spokesman said on Monday.
Democrats rebuked Schwarzenegger, a Republican who is seeking re-election in November. State Treasurer Phil Angelides, the Democratic candidate for governor, called the comments offensive and embarrassing for the increasingly Hispanic state.
Computer hacking, not a leak within Schwarzenegger's office, is suspected. "We can confirm that we are looking into the security of the governor's office computer system," said Fran Clader, a spokeswoman with the California Highway Patrol, the agency in charge of the investigation.
Andrea Lynn Hoch, Schwarzenegger's legal affair secretary, said in a statement the Internet Protocol address used to hack the computer system had been identified. "As a result of the governor's office internal audit, this office discovered that on August 29 and 30, 2006, an unknown person or persons downloaded an audio file from the governor's office computer system," she said.
Schwarzenegger has apologized for the comments, taped during a meeting with aides. Police are probing their release because they were stored on digital files in state computers with only a few people authorized to access them.
Reporters have not said how they acquired the taped remarks, part of a six-minute recording of Schwarzenegger and members of his inner circle. "Any questions should be referred to the investigating agency. We do not disclose confidential sources," the newspaper said in a statement.
Political consultants from both parties said Schwarzenegger may have been the target of computer hackers, who stumbled across material that proved embarrassing to the Hollywood and body-building icon.
"This is the technological equivalent of what the Watergate burglars did in 1972," said Republican consultant Dan Schnur.
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you created an account just to defend Arnold.....dude get a life
I did not 'create an account' to defend Arnold. I have been a member since 12/25/2003. By my math, that's two and half years longer than you. Do your homework. Check the profile my friend. Think before you type. There is a "Spell Check" button, which you didn't need because you spelled everything correctly. But maybe you should have a "Think Check" or "Fact Check" button you can use before you post. I don't have very many posts simply BECAUSE I DO HAVE A LIFE. I just don't have the time to make an average of 5.224 posts per day like you, boss.
Thanks for taking (errr....wasting) the time to flame me anyways! It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside that I am worthy of your time and effort. I'm glad you used one of your 5.224 posts today to crap on lil ol' me. Feel free to reply and add another well reasoned and well researched post to your count!
Jayhawk
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He dyes his hair so often how can't he.
Don't forget weekly Botox "touch-ups". That boys forehead is the size of a cat and ain't got nary a wrinkle or line. Silly.