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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: IceCold on September 10, 2006, 11:00:46 PM
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i've read on a few other sites that this year this will be no ppv for the olympia.
anyone know why?
the biggest bbing show in the world will be availalbe only via webcast? is this a joke? who would do that vs. watching in on tv and recording it?
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i've read on a few other sites that this year this will be no ppv for the olympia.
anyone know why?
the biggest bbing show in the world will be availalbe only via webcast? is this a joke? who would do that vs. watching in on tv and recording it?
Not just that, but you gotta pay for the webcast................. :-\
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i hear ya. If I recall, AMI sold all media rights to a new company. They are putting out a DVD later, and the webcast now. Something like $12 for show, or $24 for whole weekend?
I was disappointed when I heard... but I think i was more disappointed by groups of company men defending it so vehemently. There is no way to candy coat it. Fans want it, it's the biggest show in the sport, and no matter how you color it, webcasts are not as good as PPV. Can't tape it, gotta sit in your chair/can't stretch out, and even a 19 inch monitor is nothing compared to even a small 25+ inch tv.
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i hear ya. If I recall, AMI sold all media rights to a new company. They are putting out a DVD later, and the webcast now. Something like $12 for show, or $24 for whole weekend?
I was disappointed when I heard... but I think i was more disappointed by groups of company men defending it so vehemently. There is no way to candy coat it. Fans want it, it's the biggest show in the sport, and no matter how you color it, webcasts are not as good as PPV. Can't tape it, gotta sit in your chair/can't stretch out, and even a 19 inch monitor is nothing compared to even a small 25+ inch tv.
Oh well, what can you do when the people running things don't care enough to help move bbing forward....
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anyone know why?
Very high cost. Very little return.
Why do something that's a guaranteed money-loser when they can do something similar that's a guaranteed moneymaker?
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Very high cost. Very little return.
Why do something that's a guaranteed money-loser when they can do something similar that's a guaranteed moneymaker?
Because it would help grow bbing.....
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AMI pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee sell the Olympia to MD.
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I'm pretty sure Hardbody entertainment is handling the webcasting. Hardbody is headed by Flex Wheeler. So in this case, Flex is the one being a bastard.
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I'm pretty sure Hardbody entertainment is handling the webcasting. Hardbody is headed by Flex Wheeler. So in this case, Flex is the one being a bastard.
nah, flex is VP of something. the website lists 2 ppl in front of him for mgmt.
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I'm pretty sure Hardbody entertainment is handling the webcasting. Hardbody is headed by Flex Wheeler. So in this case, Flex is the one being a bastard.
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahah - What is he doing , working there part time ?
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nah, flex is VP of something. the website lists 2 ppl in front of him for mgmt.
One guy is the Money man and the other guy is the marketing guy
guess that leaves Flex as the Brains
Should be a great show - hope the webcast is good too , let me know how it plays out .. I will be at the show
TRUE STORY
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240 you need an HD TV.
Webcasts look alright on those things plus you can lounge on your couch and enjoy the picture.
I gave up my monitor after experiencing it.
The crappy thing about webcasts is the quality of the feed. Hopefully they will have decent cameras and loads of bandwidth.
I won't count on it though.
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One guy is the Money man and the other guy is the marketing guy
guess that leaves Flex as the Brains
Should be a great show - hope the webcast is good too , let me know how it plays out .. I will be at the show
TRUE STORY
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Flex is the brains? God help us - he is the guy who took mercury based diuretics - that's smart...
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It probably would set a record for the lowest buy rate of any PPV event in history thats why. It would be a money loser.
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here we go
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Very high cost. Very little return.
Why do something that's a guaranteed money-loser when they can do something similar that's a guaranteed moneymaker?
but they've had ppv's for the last 3 years (since 02). now, all of a sudden, they decide that its not making money?
wasnt the arnold on ppv?
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but they've had ppv's for the last 3 years (since 02). now, all of a sudden, they decide that its not making money?
wasnt the arnold on ppv?
yes arnold always was.
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Newsflash!!! AMI has just bought the SuperBowl and will be broadcasting EXCLUSIVELY on video I-pod starting 2007.
The game will be held on the practice field of Kennedy High School. The Balboa park was booked.
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If I recall correctly, the first pay per view of the IFBB was the Mr. O contest in 2001. That was done perhaps because the Olympia in Vegas was held about six or seven weeks after the September 11th war started 5 years ago.
I believe there would be more exposure for bodybuilding if the two big shows each year were on pay per view. Everybody in society knows how famous Arnold is, especially at the time he turned 50 years old in 1997. The 1997 Arnold weekend should have been offered on pay per view especially since that was the very first time Arnold had a Pro Fitness contest. Same goes for the 1997 Fitness Olympia & Ms. Olympia held in the #1 media market and the memorable Mr. Olympia contest in New York the very next year.
When a freak show like pro wrestling(the WCW & WWF) was as successful and mainstream as it was during the infamous 90's on pay per view, there could have been room for bodybuilding to be shown at that time beginning with Arnold's bodybuilding weekend. Just by the fact that Arnold is Arnold, some regular pay per view buyers would have paid to see his live event based on the curiosity factor.
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maybe too few people would wanna see PPV. It makes sense on a business standpoint
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maybe too few people would wanna see PPV. It makes sense on a business standpoint
When the sport is promoted the sport will make money
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no ppv of Big Ron's 9th win?
that sucks.
oh well, porn will work just as well :-*
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I dont know why, but the 05 Olympia dvd was a piece of sht. the sounds all fked and all you can hear is Shawn talkin about himself.
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AMI pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee sell the Olympia to MD.
Is MD really the answer?
I'm sure they would have a show by now, if they really wanted one. If they won't spring for a "C" show, why would they do it for the "A" show?
Also, I know Ironman mag catches a lot of flak for their lack of prize money increase, btu at least they are trying..........
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That sucks...always looked forward to the ppv
Last year was horrible...was like a local show production wise
Heres a link for the webcast
If you jump down on the page theres a video of Zane posing when he won the 79' olympia...
Amazing what Mr. Olympia looks like 27 years later...
http://blogmuscle.wordpress.com/tag/mr-olympia/
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When the sport is promoted the sport will make money
The best way to carefully promote bodybuilding to the mainstream is with Arnold first before anyone else. One example of how that was tried lightly was when the Arnold bodybuilding-fitness weekend was shown on UPN in a edited broadcast with highlights in 1998. There should have been a attempt to promote a bodybuilding broadcast on pay per view by using Arnold's popularity around the time that there was a lot of hype surrounding him turning 50.
On the other hand, I'll admit that bodybuilding doesn't have a chance to work on pay per view in this era especially with the explosion of scandals surrounding steroid use in sports like baseball that are so connected to the commercial culture.
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If this is true, its not good !!!
The last couple of years a group of us from the gym would get together and watch the PPV Olympia------------what are we gonna do now------all sit around a small tiny computer screen----------man-------this is definitely a big step backwards------even though last years Olympia's ppv had a ton of glitches, theres still nothing like seeing it live------who wants to sit in front of a tiny computer screen, or have to invest money just to get it onto a larger screen ? What the heck is going on here ? Who's to blame for this ? >:(
>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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I would estimate that to have a PPV for the Olympia costs in excess of $100,000 per evening, especially if it is live. You need various trucks, various people, and you can only have a maximum show of 2 hours or so, or 3 hours, but it starts getting even more expensive. Never the less, imagine how many people, trucks, live feeds and more to make a PPV. And then of course, you need a company, of which there are 2 or 3 to agree to broadcast it. They usually received automatically 50% of whatever is being sold. Now, whereas we think the number of devoted bodybuilding fans that are willing to fork out money for the PPV is a lot, I just don't think so. I have heard reports of perhaps only 12-14 thousand people paid for the PPV, including replays. Take the amount by $20 or $30, and factor in the costs, and you find that you are losing money putting on the show.
Now, via webcast, and the company they are using is pretty good, you can get 14 hours of live feed for even the same or less amount of money. Bot shows, prejuding, finals, other speciality contests at the event, and you now have a good show. I hear they are using multiple cameras so that is even better.
The webcast can handle up to 50,000 people at one time without interrption, is what I heard.
For those who want to see it on television, they will be producing a one hour highlight show for TV. And then there is the DVD's, which you can preorder at the show or before, and get them later on.
It is a good deal, and whereas all will not be disappointed.
But better yet - get your ass to the show - and have some fun in Vegas. Meet the competitors, an expo where you can meet King Kamali at the Muscletech booth, a press conference, two good contests, and much more.
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First bodybuilding was OFF of network TV
Then it was OFF of ESPN and cable.
Now not even pp view carries it!
The downward spiral continues, anybody remember the good old days when The Mr Universe was on in the middle of the afternoon on ABC's wide world of sports? :'(
Maybe Robin Bird will carry it on her channel 35 cable public access show
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I recall on a few occasions that ESPN devoted some of their time to show bodybuilding on their network. Most of the time bodybuilding would be shown on espn2 at very odd times when it wasn't listed in my cable channel guide.
I recall the 99 Mr. O was shown on espn2 in the 1st week of the new year in 2000 on January 4th because I was recording the Florida State-Virginia Tech game that evening.
At some time during the summer in 1997, espn2 had aired a number of bodybuilding contests where Shawn was doing the analysis of the guys that were competing while Lenda Murray was analysing the female bodybuilders that were in a contest.
ESPN was the best network to catch a number of bodybuilding related programs during the 90's but they gave up on that since who knows when.
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too bad its not on TV. it was funnier than comedy central.