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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Training Q&A => Topic started by: MP on September 19, 2006, 05:07:24 AM
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Thinking of setting 405 as a goal.
Curious how many on here have hit it, especially if you're not genetically gifted or use roids.
I know it's certainly possible, but wonder for those who don't have the genetics who have gotten to that level.
I've never trained as a powerlifter. Most I've benched is around 330, while training like a bodybuilder.
Coming off a lay-off after the birth of my daughter and need some kind of new goal. I figure I need two years to do it.
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Like in 4 plates each?
Actually it's doable without any kind of roids or "genetically gifted".
The main problem those who don't gain much is "simply" food. You have to eat big to get big. I benched 405 a couple of times, almost dying, but I can say in the future that I have done it once.
Usually I bench flat about 352 (160 kg) but it ain't my favourite excersise.
Just make sure to take your time. In within a year I can claim that I have trained a decade. And still going strong ;D
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if you "used to" bench 330 i think it will take you a long time to get there after a serious layoff...2 years seems a bit soon if you are doing it clean.
405 is very impressive for a natural depending on bodyweight...i benched 370 natural at 230 pounds with powerlifting style.
if you started training like a powerlifter you will get there alot quicker, have a good powerlifter show you how to bench properly. a proper technique will make your bench numbers jump and yes i can bench it for reps now.
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The most I've done is 380, but I was using pretty sloppy form. I've started using a much narrower grip and am making a point of pausing the weight at my chest. I could still see myself getting 405 within 6 months. My dad benched 400 drug free at around 210 lb. It took him 10 years of hard training to get to that level. He can still do around 320 lb at age 60.
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The most I've done is 380, but I was using pretty sloppy form. I've started using a much narrower grip and am making a point of pausing the weight at my chest. I could still see myself getting 405 within 6 months to a year. My dad benched 400 drug free at around 210 lb. It took him 10 years of hard training to get to that level. He can still do around 320 lb at age 60.
of course he can. ::)
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Good points about the eating, technique and realistic time frame. I'll do my best.
I'll follow-up with a video if I get the lift.
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The most I've done is 380, but I was using pretty sloppy form. I've started using a much narrower grip and am making a point of pausing the weight at my chest. I could still see myself getting 405 within 6 months. My dad benched 400 drug free at around 210 lb. It took him 10 years of hard training to get to that level. He can still do around 320 lb at age 60.
hahahahahhhaa that weight would crush you :P do you super set with your 250 upright rows..
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i rep 405... usually about 5-6 reps... lifetime natural... but i weight 285... it's not that impressive
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Hey, I'm impressed.
I forgot to give me weight. It has flucated over the years of training. I'd say I was at around 220 when I did 330. I'm probably around 205 now, as I begin my quest for 405.
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Hey, I'm impressed.
I forgot to give me weight. It has flucated over the years of training. I'd say I was at around 220 when I did 330. I'm probably around 205 now, as I begin my quest for 405.
it can be done... i should add that i press in a bodybuilding fashion with a mid-width grip, back flat on the bench, bringing the bar to mid-chest.... if you choose to go with a powerlifter's form you will gain much much faster
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I would say there is only 1 or 2 guys at my gym that can hit 405. I hope someday to do it though....Took me about 2.5 years to hit 315...Maybe another 3 years, I will hit 405....
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I'd love to hit up 405 for bench...I think i'll be able to narrow press it before i can bench it though. same went for when i was near 315...by close grip press is better for some reason.
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i hit it after doing hamstrings to 8)
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I hit 405 several years ago at 230lbs. I'm trying again at 220. I trained just for the 405 and it took awhil..i'm trying a more rounded approach but its hard unless ur a freak. I don't want to have to gain more weight to do it. I'm at 335 right now so we'll see. Its a great goal. I'd like to get to 1400 - 1500 lbs on all 3 lifts. i think thats attainable natural.
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i hit 475 at 18 years old natural but i was wearing a single ply shirt and i did go to college on a powerlifting and shooting scholarships.
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Nice Pats avatar headhunter.
What are some of the top assistance lifts you guys would focus on for hitting 405?
- Lying triceps extensions
- Using dumbbells more often than the straight bar for benching
- Standing shoulder presses
Besides those, I actually plan to do more incline benching than flat.
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i've hit the low 400's for singles but it's been sloppy and I'm not very happy with it. For those that have made it and those that rep it...post
what are what you consider the main focus points to benching that kind of weight? ??? boards, etc.?
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i've hit the low 400's for singles but it's been sloppy and I'm not very happy with it. For those that have made it and those that rep it...post
what are what you consider the main focus points to benching that kind of weight? ??? boards, etc.?
boards!
lockout strength is important...if you want a big bench you must bench alot and have strong triceps.
if you want a big jump in bench do benching twice a week...one day is speed benching, other day is heavy triples and doubles. always explosive and no help from spotters.
i use a very wide grip, my pointer finger is on the ring so i can tuck my elbows...shoulder blades pulled back, good arch, feet wide and try to tear the bar in half on the way up...
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that's good shit right there! that will help alot of people!
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i've done it for reps, but i wish i didn't, at least not in the flat back, no idea where my shoulders were, way i did it.
no real reason either, was never a powerlifter. apart from thinking that it was some sort of pre-requisite to join the big boys club or something. in short - ego.
i'm sure the experienced lifters can finish the story here, but yeah, i banged my shoulder stabilizers up real good. of course it didn't help that i was boxing at the time, even doing that wrong - belting the heavy bag as hard as i could with poor technique.
basically did everything i could to destroy the shoulder joints. my young body got away with it...for a while.
anyway, i have since learnt to respect this movement. actually, i don't even do it now. i do parallel dips with weights and that does the job
anyway, just wanted to share mainly because i think it's such a stupid movement to just do.
if you are going to do them learn how to do them powerlifting style - lock the shoulders in, arch the back, bring bar down to sternum in absolutely PERFECT form. pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeease don't let the shoulders rotate too much during the lift. go see dave tate or louie simmons from westside. they'll set u straight. if you don't want to compete just do partials.
if i save just 1 shoulder out there in iron land by writing this, just one and i'll die happy. ;D
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I've done it a few different times. Years ago I used to train more like a powerlifter and was stronger then at 215 as apposed to now at 245. Now I train totally different and have a better feel for the weight. Honestly I could care less if I ever press that heavy again. I have pretty much gotten away from the bench press after tearing my rotator. Hopefully you can accomplish your goal. Good luck!!
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I hear you Colby. I've proven to myself I can get bulky (235 lbs.) and extremely cut (174 lbs.). Now I'd just like to see if I can accomplish this goal. After that, I think I'll settle back into the true bodybuilding training you describe with "feeling the weight."
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me
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I did it my first time at 17, weighing 240lbs at 6'2" and natural. I set the high school record, but not by much since Long Island where I grew up is filled with meatheads who lift constantly. I followed some intense routines to get that lift going from 315lbs at the football strength test the beginning of my junior year to 405lbs the beginning of my senior year. At 17 men's bodies are exploding with testosterone, but most don't take advantage of it.
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me too,405 big deal
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Thinking of setting 405 as a goal.
Curious how many on here have hit it, especially if you're not genetically gifted or use roids.
I know it's certainly possible, but wonder for those who don't have the genetics who have gotten to that level.
I've never trained as a powerlifter. Most I've benched is around 330, while training like a bodybuilder.
Coming off a lay-off after the birth of my daughter and need some kind of new goal. I figure I need two years to do it.
I did it last year, 13 month ago on Sept. 1 2005. at a bodyweight of 252 lbs. I don't consider myself any genetic freak and there were no anabolics involved.
The way my training is going, I'lll be able to do that again at a lighter bodyweight, around 230.
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On American Choppers Paul Senor was videod doing 405 for reps, that guy has be almost 60 or so. Its very possible, but it takes proper training and diet. If you are worried about keeping a 6 pack, you will never reach it. Eat plenty, and be careful not to injure yourself. Shoulders seem to go pretty quick when form sucks at high weight. I currently do 315 for 8 reps. I recommend you focus your training on dumbells in both the incline and flat bench positions. Do this for a month or so, then test your skill at regular bench. Dumbells are better for your shoulders.
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i just think some people are just natural bench pressers while others hafta work at it
if you want it bad enough you can get it...most people though aren't impressed with 400 unless you're in highschool or college...in the real world 500+ talks
most dedicated people that stick with a workout or benching program can hit it easily in a year depending on where they start...also it depends on how you train. Do you train for strength or do you train for the "swimmer"look...*shrug*
I hit it first on a smith then two months later hit it on the regular ol' bench at 208lbs
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a strict powerlifting protocol will advance your gains quickly...once you get the arch down and learn to tuck your elbows it is all uphill from there. just learning to bench properly alone can get you 50 pounds on your bench press in a matter of months...train for explosive strength.
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also some things that i've gone to preach about are training your shoulders and tri's to be big benchers too! it's not just your chest that's helping you out! doing large, heavy compound movements for shoulders like cleans and presses or heavy seated presses will help your gains much faster! your tri's end up doing most of the work the last half or so of the push...so train them to handle the big weights too! it all goes hand in hand!
like overload said..train for power and explosive strength! proper form pays dividends...you'll never make it that high if you dont' have it..something will give out before then..
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I've done it a few different times. Years ago I used to train more like a powerlifter and was stronger then at 215 as apposed to now at 245. Now I train totally different and have a better feel for the weight. Honestly I could care less if I ever press that heavy again. I have pretty much gotten away from the bench press after tearing my rotator. Hopefully you can accomplish your goal. Good luck!!
this is sound advice heed... injury is a biatch
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Screw 405 on the flat bench, I want it on the incline. If that ever happens it will be a fantastic day.
I remember reading a while back that Chris Cormier said that if you call yourself a bodybuilder and can't incline 405 then you're a bitch...so for the moment I guess "bitch" is my title 8)
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lol
well that same bitch got what at the olympia?
don't sweat it bro ;)
but yeah..405 on the incline would be SICK!
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405 on the incline would be incredable! i saw a guy pound out a set once, and seeing that in real life is so different than on a video. I was so fueled! Ar. Jr. you'll get that shit man!
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Got to agree it's impressive, but even more so for me was watching a guy put the 200 LBS dumbells up on incline press. I mean he kicked them up and pressed from standstill. That is my goal, I've put the 180's up for 6 reps and I was jacked for weeks.
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What other exercises would you recommend to assist bench? for shoulder and Tris???
after a long time my Tris started to get strong, but i feel my shoulder are my weak point. The middle portion of the bench usually is the more difficult to me.
Im doing seated barbell presses but the weight dont go up :'(
Any suggestions that you can give me? i already know that im not a 'bench guy' who will get some crazy numbers, but my bench suck big time (and i dont think i have a horrible chest...)
thanks in advance!
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Might try getting in some power rack lifts. Heavy 3-4" lockouts get the body accustomed to handling much heavier weights. Can be a psychological boost when using 100lbs + over your regular BP. To test this point, after a few sets of heavy lockouts try doing a regular BP. You normal exercise weight should feel lighter. Also in a power rack, set the pins about 4-6" above the chest. BP the bar from a dead stop (at the chest level) until you hit the pins. Hold for a second and lower back down to the chest. Each rep is preformed from that dead stop position. No bouncing or rebounds. Trains the important starting muscles (sometimes overlooked but very important)pushing off the chest. Change the grip to closer, from time to time, in the power rack. Includes more triceps and anterior delts in BP action. Explore different grips from collar to collar, middle and close
Other moverment that can aid a bigger bench are the PBN (press behind neck) Military presses and dips (weighted). I would suggest lying tricep presses, if your elbows can handle it. Some guy's I've trained with use 300lb + for half reps in these (feel free to challenge me on that Sarcasm... anytime). Their benches are huge.
Those incline 400's that Cormier talks about are pretty much middle range, fast reps. Not full range, starting off the chest each rep, presses. Good Luck
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Might try getting in some power rack lifts. Heavy 3-4" lockouts get the body accustomed to handling much heavier weights. Can be a psychological boost when using 100lbs + over your regular BP. To test this point, after a few sets of heavy lockouts try doing a regular BP. You normal exercise weight should feel lighter. Also in a power rack, set the pins about 4-6" above the chest. BP the bar from a dead stop (at the chest level) until you hit the pins. Hold for a second and lower back down to the chest. Each rep is preformed from that dead stop position. No bouncing or rebounds. Trains the important starting muscles (sometimes overlooked but very important)pushing off the chest. Change the grip to closer, from time to time, in the power rack. Includes more triceps and anterior delts in BP action. Explore different grips from collar to collar, middle and close
Other moverment that can aid a bigger bench are the PBN (press behind neck) Military presses and dips (weighted). I would suggest lying tricep presses, if your elbows can handle it. Some guy's I've trained with use 300lb + for half reps in these (feel free to challenge me on that Sarcasm... anytime). Their benches are huge.
Those incline 400's that Cormier talks about are pretty much middle range, fast reps. Not full range, starting off the chest each rep, presses. Good Luck
another bullshit post.
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don't listen to sarcasm...JPM's post was full of good shit too...
i'm thinking he just calls bullshit to get jpm going...or am i wrong sarcasm?
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don't listen to sarcasm...JPM's post was full of good shit too...
i'm thinking he just calls bullshit to get jpm going...or am i wrong sarcasm?
no, i'm just being honest, this clown makes claims that only a guy like Bill Kazmaier would make, it always amazes me how many huge strong guys are on the internet and you never see these "beasts" in real life, 205lb. curls for 7? 300lb. tricep extensions? hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you can believe it if you want but i know better.
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Must be a small world for sarcasm...i train with a power lifter who can curl 225 easily and do freeweight behind the neck presses with 315 for 8 reps all the way down past the ears. seen him do close grip bench with 405 for 6...his max RAW bench is 540 and he's hit 705 in a titan F6 single ply at 242 pounds.
another guy squats 635 for reps and is 48 years old...also 242 division.
Hope this helps...
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I wonder what the female equiv of 405 would be...maybe two plates? Is that about right?
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Kara Bohigian BP'ed 430 @ 165lbs at a meet not long ago. There is a another lady lifter who has done well over 400+ in the BP. She was on the cover of PowerliftingUSA magazine a while back. Can't recall her name, something like Neilson or another Scandinavian sounding name. At the place I workout at we have one women lifter who can lockout over 400+ for higher reps from the top pin (3 or 4") position in regular sessions. She weights around 165-170lbs. Her best single is close to 340 or so. Like any good presser she has that natural genetic advantage.
If anyone trains with or is around PL'ers they would know what huge and unbelieveable weights they hoist up every workout. That also goes for Olympic lifters. Most people who come to this site equate heavy weights with what most BB'ers use. That can be misleading. A 205lb BB curls (and well above), for example, is cetainly not out of the question for PL'ers or people who train with serious intent. And most of them couldn't give a rats ass how big their arm's are. And to me, it's just the joy of lifting heavy. Good Luck.
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Must be a small world for sarcasm...i train with a power lifter who can curl 225 easily and do freeweight behind the neck presses with 315 for 8 reps all the way down past the ears. seen him do close grip bench with 405 for 6...his max RAW bench is 540 and he's hit 705 in a titan F6 single ply at 242 pounds.
another guy squats 635 for reps and is 48 years old...also 242 division.
Hope this helps...
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you're lying, another bullshit post.
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Kara Bohigian BP'ed 430 @ 165lbs at a meet not long ago. There is a another lady lifter who has done well over 400+ in the BP. She was on the cover of PowerliftingUSA magazine a while back. Can't recall her name, something like Neilson or another Scandinavian sounding name. At the place I workout at we have one women lifter who can lockout over 400+ for higher reps from the top pin (3 or 4") position in regular sessions. She weights around 165-170lbs. Her best single is close to 340 or so. Like any good presser she has that natural genetic advantage.
If anyone trains with or is around PL'ers they would know what huge and unbelieveable weights they hoist up every workout. That also goes for Olympic lifters. Most people who come to this site equate heavy weights with what most BB'ers use. That can be misleading. A 205lb BB curls (and well above), for example, is cetainly not out of the question for PL'ers or people who train with serious intent. And most of them couldn't give a rats ass how big their arm's are. And to me, it's just the joy of lifting heavy. Good Luck.
i have a new goal in life... yo bang a chick that can beanch 405... i don't care what she looks like... i just want to add her to the list
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lol someone's got a rape fantasy...
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i have a new goal in life... yo bang a chick that can beanch 405... i don't care what she looks like... i just want to add her to the list
Dude might want to bring another guy with you, I have a feeling if she can bench 405, she might just throw you trough the roof. At least 2 of you will have a better cahnce staying on her....
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I did 365 for 4 the other day. I recently have started taking creatine for the first time in years. I weigh 183. I might try 405 today. Previous one rep best was 385 a few years back.
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405 at 183 lbs, that would be impressive...and all your going to take is creatine?
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405 at 183 lbs, that would be impressive...and all your going to take is creatine?
yep. Couldn't even lock out 385 though. :-\ Just got back form the gym.
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I wonder what the female equiv of 405 would be...maybe two plates? Is that about right?
Nope more like 275-300 - there was a female discus thrower who used to knock out like 4-5 reps with 225 at my college. She also used to do security at the parties - she got flurty with me one time and pinched my ass - man it hurt all night that bitch was strong!!
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yep. Couldn't even lock out 385 though. Just got back form the gym
you can hit 365 for 4-5 reps but miss a 385 for a single?! ??? how may sets did you do before that? if you did 2-3 prior it should have been pretty easily done...
i bet if you hit say a light war-up, 225-235 for 10 reps or so, then your 365 for 4-5, you'd get it... ;)
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On American Choppers Paul Senor was videod doing 405 for reps, that guy has be almost 60 or so. Its very possible, but it takes proper training and diet. If you are worried about keeping a 6 pack, you will never reach it. Eat plenty, and be careful not to injure yourself. Shoulders seem to go pretty quick when form sucks at high weight. I currently do 315 for 8 reps. I recommend you focus your training on dumbells in both the incline and flat bench positions. Do this for a month or so, then test your skill at regular bench. Dumbells are better for your shoulders.
Yep he did 385 for 8 then 405 for 5 or 6 right back to back!! He also was doing some crazy make-shift hammer curls with a chain in one episode.
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Thinking of setting 405 as a goal.
Curious how many on here have hit it, especially if you're not genetically gifted or use roids.
I know it's certainly possible, but wonder for those who don't have the genetics who have gotten to that level.
I've never trained as a powerlifter. Most I've benched is around 330, while training like a bodybuilder.
Coming off a lay-off after the birth of my daughter and need some kind of new goal. I figure I need two years to do it.
You can do this, but take your NO Xplode and EAT!! Yo it might be a good idea to take a look at Rusty Jeffers Fit show episode on BB.com he shows some good exercises to do to warm up and strenghten you shoulders.
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you can hit 365 for 4-5 reps but miss a 385 for a single?! ??? how may sets did you do before that? if you did 2-3 prior it should have been pretty easily done...
i bet if you hit say a light war-up, 225-235 for 10 reps or so, then your 365 for 4-5, you'd get it... ;)
I did 225 for 12, 275 for only 4 and then went for it. No go. :-\ My 365 10 days ago was 3 good ones and an assisted 4th.
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you could only hit 275 for 4 or that's all you tried for.
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you could only hit 275 for 4 or that's all you tried for.
Just loosening up, I can get that for 12 fairly easily. I just wanted all my strength to try for 405. I fucked up my warm up for sure. I rarely go for one rep max's. Oh, and I finished my benching with 4 sets of 4 with 315 with exactly 60 seconds rest. Don't know if thats a good idea or not? I usually never do less than 8 reps on anything.
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we had a good thread going in the powerlifting section if you'd like to read it...instead of goobering up this one, hit me up in a pm and i'll go over some things with you. i was right where you are at not two months ago.
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I did 365 for 4 the other day. I recently have started taking creatine for the first time in years. I weigh 183. I might try 405 today. Previous one rep best was 385 a few years back.
hahahahahaha, of course you did. ::)
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hahahahahaha, of course you did. ::)
Maybe when you get banned from here you can hit the gym and do it yourself.
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he just does it to try and get a rise outta people..play him no mind.
i know sarcasm is knowledgable and can offer sincere constructive criticism...when he's in a good mood.
oh yeah..hit 460 for a new max monday night sarcasm! wish you could have been there to call bullshit on it...it just wasn't the same without you buddy. :-\
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he just does it to try and get a rise outta people..play him no mind.
i know sarcasm is knowledgable and can offer sincere constructive criticism...when he's in a good mood.
oh yeah..hit 460 for a new max monday night sarcasm! wish you could have been there to call bullshit on it...it just wasn't the same without you buddy. :-\
post a picture.
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how about a video? hell i know i can support way beyond 460 and hold for a photo shot....
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he just does it to try and get a rise outta people..play him no mind.
i know sarcasm is knowledgable and can offer sincere constructive criticism...when he's in a good mood.
oh yeah..hit 460 for a new max monday night sarcasm! wish you could have been there to call bullshit on it...it just wasn't the same without you buddy. :-\
He's an asshole. If I was saying I benched 500, maybe a BS would be in order. He just thinks cuz he is weak, everyone else is. He is a troll and looks like Mindspin is going to delete his account soon.
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the fact that bullshit is called on every lift that someone beyond the age of 16 can do kinda say alot about him and his training/lifting capabilities.
fricken newb. ;D ;)
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how about a video? hell i know i can support way beyond 460 and hold for a photo shot....
even better, let's see it.
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even better, let's see it.
Lets see you bench 225 you fuckin pussy.
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Lets see you bench 225 you fuckin pussy.
last time i even wasted my time with 225 i got 23 reps with it, that's not that impressive though because i weigh 230.
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so your max is what 345? or something? ???
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so your max is what 345? or something? ???
380 the last time i tried one, i know that doesn't sound very impressive but that is a REAL number and i doubbt you do anymore, if you do post a video.
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last time i even wasted my time with 225 i got 23 reps with it, that's not that impressive though because i weigh 230.
I can do that and you have 50 pounds on me, you should work out more and post less. Oh, Mindspin is taking care of that ;D
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380 the last time i tried one, i know that doesn't sound very impressive but that is a REAL number and i doubbt you do anymore, if you do post a video.
wheres your video?
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LOL yeah no shit...but it's believable if he can hit 225 for that many reps...i can get it for 30 with the last handful being hard as hell...
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LOL yeah no shit...but it's believable if he can hit 225 for that many reps...i can get it for 30 with the last handful being hard as hell...
Nothing he says is believable. He should stay in the alphabet boards. I work out a 6 every morning(sometimes just running), I don't need this pos to validate me or bring me down. fuck him.
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lol yeah...get big cred isn't that hard to come by apparenlty. even alexx gets props from time to time ;D
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I did 225 for 12, 275 for only 4 and then went for it. No go. :-\ My 365 10 days ago was 3 good ones and an assisted 4th.
Let me put it this way:
If your lifts are legit, then, with some training targeted at performance in benchpress contests, you could in a year or so lift with the best of the world in your weightclass.
If you try a benchpress training layout, you should be able to do a raw 1RM with over 420 lbs within a year.
And with a shirt, getting close to or over a 500 lbs benchpress inside the year.
Your lifts border on the ridiculous. Especially since you don't train specifically for benchpress.
I know that one of the guys on the Japanese National benchpress team, weighing 175 lbs, benchpressed 405 lbs raw and 530 lbs with a shirt.
YIP
Zack
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Let me put it this way:
If your lifts are legit, then, with some training targeted at performance in benchpress contests, you could in a year or so lift with the best of the world in your weightclass.
If you try a benchpress training layout, you should be able to do a raw 1RM with over 420 lbs within a year.
And with a shirt, getting close to or over a 500 lbs benchpress inside the year.
Your lifts border on the ridiculous. Especially since you don't train specifically for benchpress.
I know that one of the guys on the Japanese National benchpress team, weighing 175 lbs, benchpressed 405 lbs raw and 530 lbs with a shirt.
YIP
Zack
My lifts are touch and go obviously, but I don't wrap my elbows and I think wearing a bench shirt is stupid.
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i'm with you there man...but hedge and a few others here have provided some outstanding advice that got me where i am today...
but shirted i don't really see the point...but most would say the same about me and my lifts and being on.
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i'm with you there man...but hedge and a few others here have provided some outstanding advice that got me where i am today...
but shirted i don't really see the point...but most would say the same about me and my lifts and being on.
I'll listen to Hedge on the PL board. But I have ZERO interest in entering a contest. You never can have too much knowledge though.
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but shirted i don't really see the point...but most would say the same about me and my lifts and being on.
if you ever get the chance you should try a shirt...i used to feel the same way, i thought bench shirts were stupid. then i tried one on and was 2 board pressing 80 pounds over my max within a few months. it's addicting as hell man...doing a full press with one is actually very difficult. you can't just put it on and get 100 pounds. you have to learn how to "use" the shirt and find the sweet spot.
it's sort of like using nitrous oxide on a drag car...some think it is stupid and cheating but if you are racing other cars with nitrous it's all fair in the game.
doing lockouts in a shirt has made my RAW bench skyrocket, my triceps have grown so much in only a year of using a shirt. my triceps have gained a load of strength as well because of this and benching is alot of triceps..you are making your body handle alot more weight than it is used to. i don't care what people say, the shirt does not lift the weight for you. it takes alot of practice and patience to get it right.
you are almost as strong as me in the RAW bench so you could be doing lockouts with 545 very quickly...i was taught by the best in the business and i love it! i only use a base model Titan F6 single ply, nothing fancy at all...
Sarcasm - i really hope you find a life one day instead of spending your day attemping to bring others better than you down, shit i don't even log on at home, only at work when i have some free time. you are a sad man and sometimes i wonder if you have ever been laid. i hope you find peace and humble yourself one day...good luck. if you are ever in houston send me a PM and you can meet me at tiny meekers gym. i'd really enjoy training with you...you have posted some good information in the past. maybe you should inform instead of insult?
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545....
now we're talking ;D
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545....
now we're talking ;D
now yur talkin