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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Flex Wheeler on September 23, 2006, 04:12:06 PM
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it's up and working, get it now!!
Order it at:
http://www.hardbodyentertainment.tv/
Ken "Flex" Wheeler
President
Hardbody Entertainment, LLC
http://www.hardbodyentertainment.net/
;)
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works now thanks flex 8)
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It's working big dog! :)
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Is that a $300 website?
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are you sure!! look again :D
well....now it works after you posted a working link....
& yeah....looks like a $300 design
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Is that a $300 website?
$225.19
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$225.19
Hey Rob! Looks like you got a competitor out there undercutting you.
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Hey Rob! Looks like you got a competitor out there undercutting you.
22519website.com ?
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Nahh, the art/Flash on the homepage was probably $5k...
What kind of moron would pay $5k for a website? ::)
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ya ill run out and pay money for something that will buffer 50 million times during the cutler colmen callouts jeeeeez!
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Heh. $5 is nothing if your site is custom dynamic. Lotsa Flash gets pricy too. Companies using my store generally charge from $5-$30k per store.
If it's something you can complete in 2-3 days, the price shouldn't be any higher than $1000, and that's being generous. You guys are website builders, not high-end trial lawyers. ::)
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What kind of moron would pay $5k for a website? ::)
Someone who still thinks the year is 1999 and HTML experts deserve $250 an hour.
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take the price down.
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Im sorry but i think taken the O off of Pay per view and putting it on web cast only is a step back wards FLEX.....maybe if you guys had gave that option to those who couldnt get payper view it would be great but webcasting ??? ONLY This is a history making event Ronnie Coleman going for the record and I just cant see my self sitting in front of my computer witnessing such an event for the same price i could have watch it for on my TV in the comfort of my living room at not my Home office. Im very dissapointed in this. Could you give any reason why pay per view is not offered for such a historical event in Bodybuilding. ??? :-[
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Im sorry but i think taken the O off of Pay per view and putting it on web cast only is a step back wards FLEX.....maybe if you guys had gave that option to those who couldnt get payper view it would be great but webcasting ??? ONLY This is a history making event Ronnie Coleman going for the record and I just cant see my self sitting in front of my computer witnessing such an event for the same price i could have watch it for on my TV in the comfort of my living room at not my Home office. Im very dissapointed in this. Could you give any reason why pay per view is not offered for such a historical event in Bodybuilding. ??? :-[
My thought's exactly.Bodybuilding history is gonna go down and it's not on ppv? Of all the year's not to have to have it televised and it would be this one.
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My thought's exactly.Bodybuilding history is gonna go down and it's not on ppv? Of all the year's not to have to have it televised and it would be this one.
Why would you want it on PPV? I'd rather have it on TV for free.
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I just cant see my self sitting in front of my computer witnessing such an event for the same price i could have watch it for on my TV in the comfort of my living room at not my Home office. Im very dissapointed in this. Could you give any reason why pay per view is not offered for such a historical event in Bodybuilding. ??? :-[
Check out the dumbass who cant figure out how to hook up a computer to a TV!
Oh, wait.... he probably still has an analog tube TV that won't work as a digital monitor, huh? ::) ::)
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Which getdumb imp came up with 5K? Anyway... 24.95 is too much. I'd pay for a mth membership on Dina Al Sabah's site first. You'll get more heads for $9.95. Seriously...sit and rethink this one out with your partners...and adjust the pricing asap. This is the internet...not HDTV.
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Is the Olympia available for free?
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Why would you want it on PPV? I'd rather have it on TV for free.
It was offered
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The Olympia is dead to me.
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I hate this shit, they don't say the exact hour
when the prejudging start ?
when the finals start ?
they say over 13 hours of coverage, what the fuck will they talk bout for the 7 or 8 hours that aren't prejudging and finals?
speak on this please, I like to know what I get when I buy something
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I hate this shit, they don't say the exact hour
when the prejudging start ?
when the finals start ?
they say over 13 hours of coverage, what the f**k will they talk bout for the 7 or 8 hours that aren't prejudging and finals?
speak on this please, I like to know what I get when I buy something
BUMP for an answer!!!!
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Great, gonna miss the Olympia cuz of this stupid webcast shite. This is gayer than calling just to say hi.
How am i supposed to cheer on my boys Cutler and Ruhl now?!?
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This is gayer than calling just to say hi.
I have to steal that from you. thats awesome.
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SECOND BUMP FOR AN ANSWER !!!!
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maybe if I report the thread to a mod, Ron or Lift will answer
maybe they just don't see the thread
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What's so hard to find?
http://www.mrolympia.com/schedule.htm
The other hours will be coverage from the expo, fit model search and other goings on during the weekend.
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Its all over the news how sites like "Youtube" are all the rage. Gonna be stealing from T.V. veiwers in the here and now.
Times are changing.....I see live webcasts as the next step.
But i feel the same as showstoppa said. "The olympia is dead to me" LOL!!
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This is gayer than calling just to say hi.
Best "gayer than" quote ever! Kudos.
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What's so hard to find?
http://www.mrolympia.com/schedule.htm
The other hours will be coverage from the expo, fit model search and other goings on during the weekend.
Ok, I just wished they would have been more specific as to what is the programe at every hour of the coverage
thanks lift
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I have to steal that from you. thats awesome.
I actually got it from Big Poppa J. I dunno if he said it on the forums though.
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Ok, I just wished they would have been more specific as to what is the programe at every hour of the coverage
thanks lift
Sorry Bro. I have no involvement with them and wish I had more info for ya. If a schedule is available at the Olympia I will post it here.
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Is the quality going to be good? If I pay twenty odd dollars and the quality is crap, I will be pretty pissed.
I am referring to the webcast btw, I have resigned myself to the fact that the production will be crap like last year.
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Check out the dumbass who cant figure out how to hook up a computer to a TV!
Oh, wait.... he probably still has an analog tube TV that won't work as a digital monitor, huh? ::) ::)
My gosh you still alive little boy....and by the way i have more knowleadge in my duaghters pinky toe than you could ever imagin stick to talking on the subject ohhh wait you cant....your tooo dumb im through with you when you become relevant let me know....BOY
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trying to sign up for it, but right below the e mail it asks for password? where do i get this from?
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trying to sign up for it, but right below the e mail it asks for password? where do i get this from?
The password is ninjas. ;D
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My store took me about 3 years to develop...and I'm still adding features.
All told, it's a lost leader for me. bleh.
And it generally takes a couple week for these guys using my store to put it all together. Art, products, text, site integration, etc. And they usually do some sort of funky customization to the store itself to work with the specifics of the company (oddball pricing or shipping methods, etc).
No direspect..but website designers are the garbage of programers.
They are lucky idiots actualy pay good money for it.
(My brother is a firmware/embeded programer....so no Im not talking without knowing shit.)
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Im sorry but i think taken the O off of Pay per view and putting it on web cast only is a step back wards FLEX.....maybe if you guys had gave that option to those who couldnt get payper view it would be great but webcasting ??? ONLY This is a history making event Ronnie Coleman going for the record and I just cant see my self sitting in front of my computer witnessing such an event for the same price i could have watch it for on my TV in the comfort of my living room at not my Home office. Im very dissapointed in this. Could you give any reason why pay per view is not offered for such a historical event in Bodybuilding. ??? :-[
you will be able to see Ronnie win in it's full glory when the dvd becomes available ::)
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Then we both agree.
I'm not a website designer. I'm a developer (BS in Computer Science). Doing high-end database, CMS, Portal, eCommerce development. In the past, I've done my fair share of C/C++ dev, writing applications for modems (yeah, way past), firmware for cc boxes, I wrote my own compiler (with C++ and Assembler) -- it only complied into .com files, but it used my own fun-fun language...a uucp gateway, more...
Many designers piss me off more than anything. I had one designer (I wont' say her name, let's just call her "bitch") call me bout 2 weeks ago. She was doing the SEO work for her client who had purchased my eCommerce software. According to her, she had 14 years of SEO experience (which is a flat-out lie. I've been doing inet dev since '93 and back then there WAS NO fucken SEO). She wanted to know how to do SEO with my software. Uh...wtf? I was like, isn't that your fucken job you client-raping bitch? She also asked if my software would work on her Mac...I'm like, fucken-a, if you're such the hot inet developer, you tell me! Does it work? omg.
I was nice w/ her at first, but then it kinda went downhill...
However, I'd like to say I have lots of designer friends whom I have much respect for. Some of these guys do know their shit: interface design, usability, marketing, pshop, flash, etc. I outsource those things to these guys.
Now that sounds better :)
As far as I know there are only 2 real jobs at programing that require some inteligance.
High end,algorithem development and low end hardware programing.
Everything in between is just integrating already complete pieces of software togther.
I guess its the engineer in me that dont like half assing like that :)
EE for the win :P :D
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So i've been whining n whining about how the O is only on webcast. My friends and i usually ahve an O party. no not an O party where we all circlejerk, though watching naked muscly guys in posing trunks aint too different..
I finally got off my ass and figured out how to hook a computer up to a tv, and then activated a creditcard i had lyin around..
IM GONNA SEE IT.
yay, i was so sure i'd miss it.
anyways, honestly 21 bucks aint too much, i know i spend that much on tuna every few weeks:P
ya good luck
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Yeah, neither me nor any of my developer friends use any fluffy WYSIWYG VB editors, Dreamweaver or crap like that.
I have a lot of game programmer friends (aka. cutting edge). In fact one of them is coming with me to the Olympia -- he owns one of the best cell phone game companies (made all the MLB games, Tony Hawk games, more) and is a monster programmer. They're working on one of the first software rendered 3D cell phone games (the next MLB game)...all code they hand-wrote.
Nice,I got a friend that is a partner in a small company that make cell phone games too.
My friend vs yours...bring it on! ;D LOL
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Are you kidding me??? $21.95!
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can you still order each day for 12.95 or did they take that down? im not interested in the whole show , just the prejudging...
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can you still order each day for 12.95 or did they take that down? im not interested in the whole show , just the prejudging...
I was wondering that too. I don't see that option on the site anymore though.
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yeah, that's what I want to know too.
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Figure prejudging just started; the feed looks pretty good but not great
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Figure prejudging just started; the feed looks pretty good but not great
hey, I bougth the webcast yesterday and no way, it's not working....
Can you please tell me what's the link to access it?
I tried www.hardbodyentertainmen t.tv but it doesn't work.
Thanks...
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thanks for the info. flex.
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The quality is pretty good !
better than what I expected
can't wait for the prejudging :o
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The quality is pretty good !
better than what I expected
can't wait for the prejudging :o
LOL Stavios.
This soon changed ;)
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So I guess you cant order the finals?
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Here's Flex's "terms of service":
"THE SITE, DIGITAL RIGHTS MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE AND STREAMING SOFTWARE AND THE CONTENT, IF APPLICABLE, ARE PROVIDED “AS IS” “WITH ALL FAULTS” AND “AS AVAILABLE” AND WITHOUT WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND EITHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, TO THE FULLEST EXTENT PERMISSIBLE PURSUANT TO APPLICABLE LAW, THE PROVIDER DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE OR OF THE IMAGE QUALITY OF THE EVENT, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT IS ATTRIBUTABLE TO CONGESTION ON THE INTERNET, OR DUE TO THE TRANSMISSION MEDIA OR OTHERWISE. THE PROVIDER SHALL NOT BE LIABLE FOR ANY LOSS, DAMAGE OR EXPENSE INCURRED BY THE CLIENT AS A RESULT OF TRANSMISSION LIMITATIONS.
THE PROVIDER DOES NOT WARRANT THAT THE AVAILABILITY OF OR THE FUNCTIONS CONTAINED IN THE SITE, OR THE SOFTWARE, WILL BE UNINTERRUPTED OR ERROR-FREE, THAT DEFECTS WILL BE CORRECTED"
He ain't refunding a dime. :(
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Hopefully he'll get some more bandwidth. Any statement on this? I really wanna watch it, but don't wanna get it if it freezes. Has Camp flex been mum on the subject today?
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Has Camp flex been mum on the subject today?
He's probably hoping last-minute suckers customers miss the negative threads about it until after they buy.
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Yet another bodybuilding scam.
As if Flex Wheeler has a clue about what's going on.
I feel sorry for you suckers that paid, but you should have known it would fail.
"We are connecting to another higher capacity line in the Orleans" lol what a joke.
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Ronnie gets dethrowned and we miss out because you pieces of shit want to run it through webcast. Nice fucking work
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It wasn't a bandwidth issue, it was the line from the Orleans to the truck that went down. I learned of this midway through the webcast last night and asked if it was a bandwidth issue. It was an issue with the line from the Orleans, so who's fault it was has yet to be answered.
LIFT
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I was completely unable to get any the webcast last night. Not one iota.
All I got for my $24 was a skipping freezing prejudging and a small section of the women's. After Jen Hendershot routine that was it for me with the webcast. I was never able to view more.
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I was completely unable to get any the webcast last night. Not one iota.
All I got for my $24 was a skipping freezing prejudging and a small section of the women's. After Jen Hendershot routine that was it for me with the webcast. I was never able to view more.
Really? ???
Finals worked flawlessly for me at 500k last night. Best O production in years. Still some goof ups, but it is bodybuilding. Wouldn't be the same without it. lol
Hardbody redeemed themselves last night. Sorry to hear you still had issues CQ
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Who cares whether with was a bandwith issue, or the line from the truck went down, or their was a power outage, or whatever -- no excuses are acceptable. Flex Wheeler was involved in this business only because they needed a "Name" to help promote it.
It is BODYBUILDING -- the IFBB -- WEIDER -- they can't do anything right. Period.
If ABC lost its feed from the Ohio State-Iowa game last night and millions of viewers could not see it, do you think the network would be in business very long doing that all the time? No. They can't afford to fuck it up so they get it right or they will be out of business. Bodybuilding is different. It's got a small audience, which they can fuck with.
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It wasn't a bandwidth issue, it was the line from the Orleans to the truck that went down. I learned of this midway through the webcast last night and asked if it was a bandwidth issue. It was an issue with the line from the Orleans, so who's fault it was has yet to be answered.
LIFT
Jeez Lift what happened. Maybe I should take the fault of it. You know how FedEx is. Maybe I was the reason for this too. Man, I can't believe anything happened like this at an IFBB show. ::)
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Maybe it was the ninjas who cut the line?
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It wasn't a bandwidth issue, it was the line from the Orleans to the truck that went down. I learned of this midway through the webcast last night and asked if it was a bandwidth issue. It was an issue with the line from the Orleans, so who's fault it was has yet to be answered.
LIFT
Which night did the line go down?
People had problems both nights. On the first night, the engineers assures everyone that it was Embarq's fault. Was it Embarq's fault both nights? Why wasn't the problem diagnosed and fixed after Fri night?
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Which night did the line go down?
People had problems both nights. On the first night, the engineers assures everyone that it was Embarq's fault. Was it Embarq's fault both nights? Why wasn't the problem diagnosed and fixed after Fri night?
I have read that it wasn't a bandwidth issue, but rather a line going out to the truck that went out somehow.. no probs on the second night for me
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Okay, this will probably sound really dumb as I don't know anything about webcasts but a question here...
So far I have spoken with 2 other people who had the exact same issue as me....as in got zero feed on Sat night. Nothing at all. Not one shred of coverage.
They are both from this region [West Indies/Central America].
Co-incidence?
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So as i gather....Flex wont re-imburse on the web-cast, and Vic Martinez is still seliing memberships to his gym on post-it notes......nice world we live in. :D
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Please send me a free copy of the DVD as reimbursement
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Ken,
Curious now, how you as a professed Christian, intend to handle all of the complaints and requests for refunds that have been voiced? I hope you do the right thing. Both in this matter, and the one I private messaged you about.
Dennis L. Bates
President
www.MuscleMissions.org
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Wow and to think I clicked on this link to find out if I could buy an archive view of it or something...glad I wasn't able to figure out how from the website.saved myself some money. I would like to see the finals and the moment they announced the winner. :(
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Ken,
Curious now, how you as a professed Christian, intend to handle all of the complaints and requests for refunds that have been voiced? I hope you do the right thing. Both in this matter, and the one I private messaged you about.
Dennis L. Bates
President
www.MuscleMissions.org
No, Flex is not going to do a "private posing" session for you. ::)
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Jeez Lift what happened. Maybe I should take the fault of it. You know how FedEx is. Maybe I was the reason for this too. Man, I can't believe anything happened like this at an IFBB show. ::)
It has nothing to do with the IFBB. It was the hotel to the truck. Why do you feel the need to make everything an anti IFBB thread?
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Which night did the line go down?
People had problems both nights. On the first night, the engineers assures everyone that it was Embarq's fault. Was it Embarq's fault both nights? Why wasn't the problem diagnosed and fixed after Fri night?
It happened on Friday night, at least that is when my sources informed me about it. I was told that it was an issue with the company that provides the line from the hotel to the truck and they were refusing to fix it until the next day. I will see if I can find an answer for ya as I don't know the full story. I do know I'd be pissed if I had to watch it on the 100k feed or paid and wasn't able to view it at all.
Don't shoot the messenger Keith. I had nothing to do with the show's production, webcast or otherwise. I am simply reporting on it.
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Cool. I wanted to get it but was scared off by people warning. I hope flex addresses it, at least to apologize and maybe offer to mail any offended parties an autographed photo or something nice.
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Cool. I wanted to get it but was scared off by people warning. I hope flex addresses it, at least to apologize and maybe offer to mail any offended parties an autographed photo or something nice.
something nice would be the 25 bucks they paid,or however much it was.
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Cool. I wanted to get it but was scared off by people warning. I hope flex addresses it, at least to apologize and maybe offer to mail any offended parties an autographed photo or something nice.
It appears Flex may just be waiting for the furor to calm down, has he has been online since. If he was going to bust out some form of an apology I would assume he would have done it already. I mean the complaints started coming in 3 days.
Extremely poor business decision. But then, with all due respect, considering that he went from one of the top bodybuilders in the world, all these fancy cars etc. to having Shawn Ray beg for money for him online I would assume his business skills are piss poor in general.
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It appears Flex may just be waiting for the furor to calm down, has he has been online since.
Name: Flex Wheeler
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Name: Flex Wheeler
Posts: 27 (0.235 per day)
Position: Pros
Date Registered: June 08, 2006, 11:35:28 AM
Last Active: September 23, 2006, 04:38:59 PM
I was refering to his own MD forums, where there are also a fair amount of complaints posted.
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Show us the money.
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Next time dont be soo Cheap and come out to support the Olympia! ;D
Like Ronnie said, "Why complain?"
Peace,
S
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Next time dont be soo Cheap and come out to support the Olympia! ;D
Like Ronnie said, "Why complain?"
Peace,
S
Unlike you I have to cross international oceans at great expense. I don't exactly live close by. Despite that, I have attended numerous IFBB shows over the years. I usually attend the O actually, but had no intention of spending thousands of dollars after that ridiculous production last year. I always attend the Arnold, as it is a quality show. I have spent significant amounts of money over the years supporting the IFBB and my company actually sponsors two pros from this region. Cheapness was never a factor.
The Olympia will not gain supporters by ripping people off with a webcast. And lets' face it, bodybuilding in general, let alone the IFBB needs supporters.
Shawn, you are an outspoken guy, why is your boy not manning up and speaking about his company's crap webcast?
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Next time dont be soo Cheap and come out to support the Olympia! ;D
Like Ronnie said, "Why complain?"
Peace,
S
Classless, shawn. Someone sold a faulty product to BBing fans. Your best defense would be to not address the issue at all.
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I'm not familiar with the exact problems, as I just returned home from Vegas.
I bleieve Flex is still there or home with his wife and kids.
Reporting back here is probably on his "List f things to do" but it is not at the Top of his list.
Send him an email you might get a faster response.
Simply put, when you attend the show, you dont have Internet Problems.
Dont shoot the messenger, the Contest went fine. :-*
S
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I'm not familiar with the exact problems, as I just returned home from Vegas.
I bleieve Flex is still there or home with his wife and kids.
Reporting back here is probably on his "List f things to do" but it is not at the Top of his list.
Send him an email you might get a faster response.
Simply put, when you attend the show, you dont have Internet Problems.
Dont shoot the messenger, the Contest went fine. :-*
S
Thanks for your response Shawn.
I concur with your point about attending the show, and I probably will next year, but ripping off people with a webcast will not grow the fanbase in general.
In the end it makes no never mind to me. The vid is all over the net now anyway. Flex and Hardbody are the ones who are having their rep ruined in the cyberworld for this - not me, my finances are fine. None of my friends has ever had to send out emails begging for money for me ;)
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I dont believe their intent was to "Rip Off" the Fans.
That being said, they should eb comended for their efforts to bring the Contest to you not coined as Rip Offs.
In Cyber Space this stuff can and does happen.
Address the Principles and I'm sure there will be a resolution but when you guys Bitch Moan and Complain, its a wonder they try to put this stuff out there and make it available in the first place.
I hope they dont even bother next year then you guys will be here bitching about that! :'(
S
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I concur that their intent was not to rip off the fans.
But that is what they did.
I saw *nothing* of the finals. Nothing. I was, despite any lack of intention, "ripped off"
The complaints started 3 days ago, my main point is that they should have been addressed as as aspect of good business.
If one checks my post history, apart from my recent tirades about the webcast I am positive. I would like to see this sport grow. When our 'superbowl' of bodybuilding is covered only by a faulty webcast it serves to make this industry look like amateur hour and negatively affects us all.
My main point is, mistakes happen...cool....just fix it.
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shawn, the problem is that his whole team knew there was a problem. IT was all over every board. ANd he spent time on the boards on saturday, but only to plug his dvd sale. And he was reported to be joking about the "whiny musclegeeks" online complaining about the quality of their webcast.
Fact is, it's monday afternoon. It takes about 2 minutes to log onto 3 message boards and type an apology for the inconvenience. He's been online yesterday and today, and no mention of it.
So it's not a 'he's too busy to get to it'.
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His team blamed Embarq on friday. Okay. Then refund the $ and collect from Embarq for the screw up.
The fact that's not happening, and he's not addressing it publicly, makes it look like it was his fault, and he doesn't care about the customers.
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I dont believe their intent was to "Rip Off" the Fans.
That being said, they should eb comended for their efforts to bring the Contest to you not coined as Rip Offs.
In Cyber Space this stuff can and does happen.
Address the Principles and I'm sure there will be a resolution but when you guys Bitch Moan and Complain, its a wonder they try to put this stuff out there and make it available in the first place.
I hope they dont even bother next year then you guys will be here bitching about that! :'(
S
ahahah...are you an idiot? You act like they are doing us a favor by providing this craptastic "webcast."
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Unlike you I have to cross international oceans at great expense. I don't exactly live close by. Despite that, I have attended numerous IFBB shows over the years. I usually attend the O actually, but had no intention of spending thousands of dollars after that ridiculous production last year. I always attend the Arnold, as it is a quality show. I have spent significant amounts of money over the years supporting the IFBB and my company actually sponsors two pros from this region. Cheapness was never a factor.
The Olympia will not gain supporters by ripping people off with a webcast. And lets' face it, bodybuilding in general, let alone the IFBB needs supporters.
Shawn, you are an outspoken guy, why is your boy not manning up and speaking about his company's crap webcast?
The show was great this year and well runned - Hardbody just did not have their operation together. IFBB did a 200% better job this year.
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Agreed on the IFBB and Weider! Great job. I know I have come down hard on HBE but I am just a little disappointed on missing it LIVE, that's all. GREAT SHOW!
Even though I was not at the show, I have talked to many folks and heard it was very well run.
I know that from what judging I did get to see, it was well run and expedited. Jim Rockell always does a fantastic job. I thought for a minute during one of the men's judging rounds, that he was going to go up and smack Ronnie and a few of the other guys around for taking their sweet @$$ time getting into the mandatories! LOL.
Anyhow, maybe I'll be there in person next year with my gal! ;)
Rick Lohre
LohreCreative.com (http://LohreCreative.com)
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Yes, I hear the show was much better run. I would have seen it myself, but hardbody sucks azz. Good to see the IFBB cleaning up and doing a better production. The best in the world descerve nothing less. I actually just got of the phone with a friend, and we have confirmed that we are going next year. After my brief hiatus of not attending the O, I am quite ready to go back.
Flex - If I see you there I will be demanding my refund. And yes, I am quite serious.
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Agreed on the IFBB and Weider! Great job. I know I have come down hard on HBE but I am just a little disappointed, that's all. GREAT SHOW!
Even though I was not at the show, I have talked to many folks and heard it was very well run.
I know that from what judging I did get to see, it was well run and expedited. Jim Rockell always does a fantastic job.
Agreed... Jim does a great job.
What's interesting is that HBE had all the rights to media locked up. I'm told that Lonnie Teper and Bill Comstock had some great footage of Jay and Ronnie talking in the hallway (prior to the announcement). There were also some other good snipetts. But Flex threatened to sue them so no-one will ever get to see that footage.
It's just too bad that HBE had all the problems. I guess some of the greatest moments in bodybuilding history will never be seen.
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Truth be told, you have to leave the internet stuff to the internet geeks who understand how it all works.
I haven't read HBE's mission statement, but I suspect that streaming digital media is not their area of expertise.