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Title: Adonis psychology
Post by: Mussolini on September 29, 2006, 07:01:30 PM
Are there any getbig members with  degree's or backgrounds in Psychology who would be kind enough to explain the possible reasons for Adonis' bizar behavior both in leading up to the mr getbig contest, and after he suffered a crushing defeat at the hands of whateva?

Why would he hate on steroid users so bitterly when it was brought to light he has used them in the past? What would cause a man to create a fake internet girlfriend?


Thank-you for your time.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Condor on September 29, 2006, 07:05:46 PM
I honestly believe it stems from some form of the Oedipus Complex.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Bigger Business on September 29, 2006, 07:09:11 PM
Adonis seems pretty upbeat with the heart of a lion. He knows he has 'heat' at the moment and is milking it for all its worth...smart business sense.

gotta take a chill on all the random pic posting tho

its gettin creepy
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Matt C on September 29, 2006, 07:11:11 PM
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Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Mussolini on September 29, 2006, 07:19:13 PM
Awesome post Matt, very informative.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Mussolini on September 29, 2006, 07:27:48 PM
So he is so bitter against the TP's of the world that he goes to extreme lengths and creates a fake internet GF to "praise" him here on Getbig. Wow, but haterd can make you do crazy things I suppose.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Bigger Business on September 29, 2006, 07:28:14 PM
No problem.  In short, if more juicers were open and honest about it and admitted that juice was an important part of muscle enhancement, Adam could respect them.  It's mainly when they take a "holier than thou" type of attitude that he gets on the offensive.

'juicers'?

you natural extremists have the worst 'hollier than thou' schtick going

if more 'naturals' admitted to be juicing then the world would be a safer place for our children
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: XFACTOR on September 29, 2006, 07:30:44 PM
Are there any getbig members with  degree's or backgrounds in Psychology who would be kind enough to explain the possible reasons for Adonis' bizar behavior both in leading up to the mr getbig contest, and after he suffered a crushing defeat at the hands of whateva?

Why would he hate on steroid users so bitterly when it was brought to light he has used them in the past? What would cause a man to create a fake internet girlfriend?


Thank-you for your time.

It's very apparent why he has a fake internet g/f, have you seen the face on that kid??  Wow!! No way he could find a girl..  As far as the psychology behind the multiple personalities, I to am interested in finding out why?
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: jwb on September 29, 2006, 07:33:08 PM
Are there any getbig members with  degree's or backgrounds in Psychology who would be kind enough to explain the possible reasons for Adonis' bizar behavior both in leading up to the mr getbig contest, and after he suffered a crushing defeat at the hands of whateva?

Why would he hate on steroid users so bitterly when it was brought to light he has used them in the past? What would cause a man to create a fake internet girlfriend?


Thank-you for your time.
He has a little dick... that'll be $95 thank you
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Mussolini on September 29, 2006, 07:41:53 PM
He has a little dick... that'll be $95 thank you


Quite possible, dude. You mind taking a rain check on the 95$?
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: jwb on September 29, 2006, 07:49:28 PM

Quite possible, dude. You mind taking a rain check on the 95$?
You can owe me... ;)
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: wile e roadrunner on September 29, 2006, 08:16:00 PM
You've been drilled down, TA. 1/2 this board knows every detail of your pathetic life via PMs from your so-called "friends".

Hope your XANAX, or whatever, prescriptions are up-to-date  - gonna need 'em.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Bigger Business on September 29, 2006, 08:32:24 PM
Yeah but we're only extreme like that to counter the nonsense spouted by TP types.  If juicers were honest to begin with I assure you we would not go on these long tirades against juice.

Ive found at natural shows there is so much backstage mumbling and competitor accusations of whos juicing. Any natural that dosnt win is because everyone else was juicing.

With guys that use gas its more about how hard they train and eat while theyre gassed...their financial position etc.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: The True Adonis on September 29, 2006, 08:33:40 PM
You've been drilled down, TA. 1/2 this board knows every detail of your pathetic life via PMs from your so-called "friends".

Hope your XANAX, or whatever, prescriptions are up-to-date  - gonna need 'em.

You can trigger me, but you can never figure me out.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Mussolini on September 29, 2006, 08:49:52 PM
You can trigger me, but you can never figure me out.

Adonis, can you give us some insight as to why you behave the way you do?
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: The True Adonis on September 29, 2006, 09:08:23 PM
Adonis, can you give us some insight as to why you behave the way you do?

Sure ask away.

I will answer any question posed to me.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: The True Adonis on September 29, 2006, 09:09:19 PM
I found this while searching for my King pic.

My old car. :)
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Nathan Explosion on September 29, 2006, 09:11:15 PM
Hm...
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Mussolini on September 29, 2006, 09:16:04 PM
Sure ask away.

I will answer any question posed to me.

Ok man, first and foremost I am not judging you at all, I am just curious . I want to know why you are so bitter at whateva, and even go as far as saying that you are the champ? How did he offend you so much?

Also there are allegations that you have experimented with steroids yourself, is that true?

Also some believe your girlfriend is imaginary, others say she is real but just a friend of yours. Jezebel, I am a little skeptical of, as I have yet to see a pic of you two together, and you are anything but camera shy.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: The True Adonis on September 29, 2006, 09:32:09 PM
Ok man, first and foremost I am not judging you at all, I am just curious . I want to know why you are so bitter at whateva, and even go as far as saying that you are the champ? How did he offend you so much?

Also there are allegations that you have experimented with steroids yourself, is that true?

Also some believe your girlfriend is imaginary, others say she is real but just a friend of yours. Jezebel, I am a little skeptical of, as I have yet to see a pic of you two together, and you are anything but camera shy.

The first question you asked I will in fact address with a previous post that will explain the situation:Oh Dear Whateva,

"Whateva" will I do?  Your prison is your own reality.  Intelligence,Creativity and Passion all have either escaped or in fact,never existed as such to escape.  You are a mere shell of a man.  A fragment of insignifigance. Simply put, you are a hedonistic,selfish pleasure seeker, imprisoned within walls of the cellar of Getbig.  You occupy this dank,musty spot and share it with a few others which is a given. Every fool needs an audience on their own level.  This cellar you can never escape.  Just like you will never escape your reality.

Meanwhile, sitting amongst MY throne and around the banquet table, are some of the finest men In the Getbig Kingdom.  We are arming ourselves with knowledge,passion and purpose so we too, can all share the glory of becoming poetic Warrior-Kings within.  As I will continue to give out my treasures and as others continue to share their treasures, we will always hold the keys to your cellar.  You will NEVER escape and remember that you are below us. Entombed forever. Forgotten. 



The second part:  I have NEVER EVER done ANY KIND OF DRUG.  NO PRO-HORMONES either.  Lifetime Natural and forever I will remain. 



The Third Part:  Actually, Jezebelle and I have been together for EXACTLY a year now to the DAY, September 30th.  We have posted a picture together but it was deleted when the Y board changed over.  We will take a special picture for all to see, as there is a Queen in the Kingdom as well. 
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: figgs on September 29, 2006, 09:33:24 PM
I've not only taken psychology but try to practice it and the techniques involved on a daily basis. In my opinion, I'm perfectly qualified to give an analysis into True Adonis' behavior. It really proves how if you post so much on a forum, strangers can gain knowledge about a person's true personality.

But then again, that's not necessary. I don't feel it's necessary to post my theories on the motives behind some of TA's posts. You take psychology you lazy girl.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: The True Adonis on September 29, 2006, 09:36:45 PM
I've not only taken psychology but try to practice it and the techniques involved on a daily basis. In my opinion, I'm perfectly qualified to give an analysis into True Adonis' behavior. It really proves how if you post so much on a forum, strangers can gain knowledge about a person's true personality.

But then again, that's not necessary. I don't feel it's necessary to post my theories on the motives behind some of TA's posts. You take psychology you lazy pussy.

I am a master of this Human Science as well.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: XFACTOR on September 29, 2006, 09:36:52 PM
I found this while searching for my King pic.

My old car. :)

Hey Adam what year was your lotus??  Was that a the 8 or 6?  Nice ride.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: The True Adonis on September 29, 2006, 09:39:28 PM
Hey Adam what year was your lotus??  Was that a the 8 or 6?  Nice ride.

s4s with Racing Chip,Stebro Exhaust,K+N air fliter,Turbo XS blow off valve.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Mussolini on September 29, 2006, 09:39:32 PM
Adonis, thank-you for the response.

Why do you feel this way about whateva? have you seen or heard him being ignorant or refusing to help someone who asked him for advice? How can you be sure whateva fits all those traits you desrcibed?

Did you feel this way about him only after the judges declared him the winner?



As for figs, go slit your wrists.



Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: The True Adonis on September 29, 2006, 10:06:37 PM
Adonis, thank-you for the response.

Why do you feel this way about whateva? have you seen or heard him being ignorant or refusing to help someone who asked him for advice? How can you be sure whateva fits all those traits you desrcibed?

Did you feel this way about him only after the judges declared him the winner?



As for figs, go slit your wrists.





No.

If you need evidence feel freely to perform a search of his previous pointless pontifications in his old posts.  9/10ths are one word responses trying to defame the King.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Mussolini on September 30, 2006, 12:21:34 AM
No.

If you need evidence feel freely to perform a search of his previous pointless pontifications in his old posts.  9/10ths are one word responses trying to defame the King.

Ok man, thanks again for responding.


Again though why no pics of you two? You said on another thread that she took all the pics which were submitted to the Mr Getbig judges. WHy know pics of you two?

Most people would be posting tons of pics if there girl looked like that. Something is fishy that there was only one pic of you two and it was taken down on the Y board.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: The True Adonis on September 30, 2006, 12:44:03 AM
Ok man, thanks again for responding.


Again though why no pics of you two? You said on another thread that she took all the pics which were submitted to the Mr Getbig judges. WHy know pics of you two?

Most people would be posting tons of pics if there girl looked like that. Something is fishy that there was only one pic of you two and it was taken down on the Y board.

Well my friend,
Pictures of us together in private affairs are not meant to be emblazoned all over the forums.  It is a privilege to view such fine art in picture and in person.  Perhaps a series of limited edition photographs are in order. 
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: IFBBwannaB on September 30, 2006, 01:17:00 AM
No problem.  In short, if more juicers were open and honest about it and admitted that juice was an important part of muscle enhancement, Adam could respect them.  It's mainly when they take a "holier than thou" type of attitude that he gets on the offensive.

OMG you people hear whatever you like.

Facts:
1.Any juicer will tell you that you cant be really big without juice.Tom said JUST that,its just made natural be mad cause its true.

2.Any juicer will say the juice is a HUGE mental and physical aspect.

3.Any juicer will tell you that it takes WAY MORE then just drugs to be a good bodybuilder.

I know MANY juicers,they range from pro level abuse to underdosages that dont do shit.
Amazing genetics to Adonis-mule like genetics.

And ALL of them will say that the juice alone wont do shit,it can just amplify what you do.If you eat and train good then with the juice it will effect X times more.

Same for your genetics,if you are shitty the juice will improve that base level by X % but it wont change it.
If you got a shitty shape/bodypart it will never change,its very evident on the pro's.

You all natural are fucking scared morons that make excuses and blame others just to feel good...lame...get some self respect.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Mussolini on September 30, 2006, 05:26:10 AM
Well my friend,
Pictures of us together in private affairs are not meant to be emblazoned all over the forums.  It is a privilege to view such fine art in picture and in person.  Perhaps a series of limited edition photographs are in order. 

Understandable that you dont want pics of you two together in private affairs floating around on the net. I look forward to seeing the limited edition shoot.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Nathan Explosion on September 30, 2006, 08:12:31 AM
Quote from: joey tito
Yes, you're right about Jezebelle being a non-real person.  One of the guys who has used this Tito account knows Adam personally.  He knows about Adam's dabbling with steroids about a year ago and he also knows that Adam does not currently have a gf, nor has he had one for about 8 months.  "Jezebelle", at least the girl you see in the pic he posts, is one of Adam's friends, but not his gf.  And as for the "Jezebelle" account, that's just Adam and Adam alone behind it.  And you're also right that it is all really, really sad.

Did we not read this?
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: bigmc on September 30, 2006, 08:24:52 AM
Adonis suffers from the Adonis complex

it makes you blind in defeat
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: natural al on September 30, 2006, 08:28:17 AM

"Whateva" will I do?  Your prison is your own reality.  Intelligence,Creativity and Passion all have either escaped or in fact,never existed as such to escape.  You are a mere shell of a man.  A fragment of insignifigance. Simply put, you are a hedonistic,selfish pleasure seeker, imprisoned within walls of the cellar of Getbig.  You occupy this dank,musty spot and share it with a few others which is a given. Every fool needs an audience on their own level.  This cellar you can never escape.  Just like you will never escape your reality.


you described your little flock perfectly there.  woten, BF and all of the others fit this almost to a "T" it should be thier mantra, in fact it should be the oath they say everyday before they log on to this site just to remind them of the emptiness thier pathetic little internet life is.  The Oath of the toadie, the mantra of the sheep....say it loud and say it proud, a lapdog you shall forever be!!!
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Samourai Pizzacat on September 30, 2006, 08:55:18 AM
I've not only taken psychology but try to practice it and the techniques involved on a daily basis. In my opinion, I'm perfectly qualified to give an analysis into True Adonis' behavior. It really proves how if you post so much on a forum, strangers can gain knowledge about a person's true personality.

But then again, that's not necessary. I don't feel it's necessary to post my theories on the motives behind some of TA's posts. You take psychology you lazy pussy.

Don't forget rule 9.01 (B)
Quote
Except as noted in 9.01c, psychologists provide opinions of the psychological characteristics of individuals only after they have conducted an examination of the individuals adequate to support their statements or conclusions. When, despite reasonable efforts, such an examination is not practical, psychologists document the efforts they made and the result of those efforts, clarify the probable impact of their limited information on the reliability and validity of their opinions, and appropriately limit the nature and extent of their conclusions or recommendations. (See also Standards 2.01, Boundaries of Competence, and 9.06, Interpreting Assessment Results.)

This basically means a proper diagnosos can not be based on internet rants, how obvious it may come across. A diagnosis should always be made after personal contact with the patient/client. In some instances, when there's no direct contact possible, a diagnosis will always be accompagnied by a text explaining the shortfalls of the diagnosis under that particular circumstance.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: SteelePegasus on September 30, 2006, 09:25:41 AM
Adonis seems pretty upbeat with the heart of a lion. He knows he has 'heat' at the moment and is milking it for all its worth...smart business sense.

gotta take a chill on all the random pic posting tho

its gettin creepy

lol, yeah he has taken over the "creepy random pic posting" title from arvilla
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Mussolini on September 30, 2006, 09:36:46 AM
You'll be waiting forever. He has no gf. And, you need to brush up on your "psychology", he's obviously diverting your attention away, and excusing himself. You really think he's so concerned w/ his privacy after posting 100 pics of himself semi-nude? right. "fine art"? how laughable.

Classic case of compulsive liar.

I dont need to brush up on anything. I dont believe Adam has a girlfriend now or ever.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Bast000 on September 30, 2006, 09:44:39 AM
I dont need to brush up on anything. I dont believe Adam has a girlfriend now or ever.

I don't believe you like girls.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: The True Adonis on September 30, 2006, 09:56:17 AM
I dont need to brush up on anything. I dont believe Adam has a girlfriend now or ever.

Sometimes I don`t believe how lucky I am either...

Who will take the fall?

What I mean is, who will agree to log off and never come back on if I can prove it all?

Since some seem so surely confident in the matter, one must be willing to step up in the hopes of a pyhric victory. :)
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: knny187 on September 30, 2006, 09:59:10 AM
I don't want you to leave TA.....


you give me great material to work with
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: The True Adonis on September 30, 2006, 10:09:29 AM
 The Lizard King
The True Adonis was deeply interested in occultism, both modern and classical. He was a proponent of both Jungian and Nietzschean ideas, and was also fascinated by Native American mysticism. Message Board posts by the The True Adonis often used words, actions, images and patterns intended to provoke a subconscious reaction in the audience.

Shamans identified strongly with one deity—often embodied in an actual animal, such as a bear or a crow—in many forms of Native American shamanism. The True Adonis was fascinated by the lizard, believing that it symbolized a powerful force in the subconscious mind, epitomizing fear and longing in the psyche. His conception of the Lizard King has been interpreted by some as a recognition of a profound and transcendent spiritual reality. Like Buddha-nature, the Lizard King allegory represents a transcendent experience dormant in all humans, an archetype of the subconscious mind, like the achievement of nirvana.

The Lizard King agitates and disrupts, much like a Trickster Hero. Attributes associated with the Trickster archetype include cleverness and raw instinct.


"I am the Lizard King, I can do anything!"
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: knny187 on September 30, 2006, 10:16:50 AM
The Lizard King
The True Adonis was deeply interested in occultism, both modern and classical. He was a proponent of both Jungian and Nietzschean ideas, and was also fascinated by Native American mysticism. Message Board posts by the The True Adonis often used words, actions, images and patterns intended to provoke a subconscious reaction in the audience.

Shamans identified strongly with one deity—often embodied in an actual animal, such as a bear or a crow—in many forms of Native American shamanism. The True Adonis was fascinated by the lizard, believing that it symbolized a powerful force in the subconscious mind, epitomizing fear and longing in the psyche. His conception of the Lizard King has been interpreted by some as a recognition of a profound and transcendent spiritual reality. Like Buddha-nature, the Lizard King allegory represents a transcendent experience dormant in all humans, an archetype of the subconscious mind, like the achievement of nirvana.

The Lizard King agitates and disrupts, much like a Trickster Hero. Attributes associated with the Trickster archetype include cleverness and raw instinct.


"I am the Lizard King, I can do anything!"



damn......


you're right
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Mussolini on September 30, 2006, 10:20:35 AM
Well I am a fan of Jim Morrison.

And since you and Bast are such good friends, why doesnt he agree to leave the getbig "kingdom" if you cant come up with a pic of you and Jezebel together.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: figgs on September 30, 2006, 03:32:25 PM
Didn't Jim Morrison clal himself the Lizard King?
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: SDMF on September 30, 2006, 03:49:29 PM
Why does everyone care about adonis and his posts....are they REALLY bothering your life????  And if they benefit you, just read them and move on....
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Bast000 on September 30, 2006, 03:52:40 PM
Well I am a fan of Jim Morrison.

And since you and Bast are such good friends, why doesnt he agree to leave the getbig "kingdom" if you cant come up with a pic of you and Jezebel together.

Deal I agree. But if he can, you pay me $100.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: The True Adonis on September 30, 2006, 04:04:23 PM
Deal I agree. But if he can, you pay me $100.

Yes.

Agree to this deal.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Mussolini on September 30, 2006, 06:39:52 PM
Deal I agree. But if he can, you pay me $100.

No I do not agree. I am not wadgering anything, as my own curiosity is not worth 100$.
Mabey if you could prove the existance of the Sasquatch I would send you 100$

How about this, you provide pictures with you and Jezebelle holding a sign saying you are a couple. The pictures are inspected by 240 and one other person to make sure they are genuine. If they conclude the pics are good, I will send you your choice of either an autographed copy of Erich Von Daniken's "the gods were astronaughts" Or a WW2 book of my choice. I have many on Hitler which might spark Adonis' interest.

If you cant prove you two are a couple, nothing happens, no one has to leave, I dont want anyone to leave.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: njflex on September 30, 2006, 06:45:06 PM
Don't mess with 'Il Duce"or you'll get the horn's.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Mussolini on October 01, 2006, 08:50:42 AM
do you agree to that Adonis?
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: The True Adonis on October 01, 2006, 08:52:20 AM
Here are 2 limited edition pictures right before my 5000 Calorie King`s feast.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: The True Adonis on October 01, 2006, 08:54:26 AM
No I do not agree. I am not wadgering anything, as my own curiosity is not worth 100$.
Mabey if you could prove the existance of the Sasquatch I would send you 100$

How about this, you provide pictures with you and Jezebelle holding a sign saying you are a couple. The pictures are inspected by 240 and one other person to make sure they are genuine. If they conclude the pics are good, I will send you your choice of either an autographed copy of Erich Von Daniken's "the gods were astronaughts" Or a WW2 book of my choice. I have many on Hitler which might spark Adonis' interest.

If you cant prove you two are a couple, nothing happens, no one has to leave, I dont want anyone to leave.

I would like to have my books now.
I will send you something in return. It will be a suprise.  I promise. 
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Mussolini on October 01, 2006, 01:09:31 PM
I would like to have my books now.
I will send you something in return. It will be a suprise.  I promise. 


I will send you one book, like I said, after the pics have been evaluated by 240, and you are both holding a sign saying you are infact boyfriend and girlfriend. Those were the stipulations I asked for in my previous post.

If 240 says the photos are legit, I promise to send you a book.

Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: El_Spiko on October 01, 2006, 01:40:14 PM
The first question you asked I will in fact address with a previous post that will explain the situation:Oh Dear Whateva,

"Whateva" will I do?  Your prison is your own reality.  Intelligence,Creativity and Passion all have either escaped or in fact,never existed as such to escape.  You are a mere shell of a man.  A fragment of insignifigance. Simply put, you are a hedonistic,selfish pleasure seeker, imprisoned within walls of the cellar of Getbig.  You occupy this dank,musty spot and share it with a few others which is a given. Every fool needs an audience on their own level.  This cellar you can never escape.  Just like you will never escape your reality.

Meanwhile, sitting amongst MY throne and around the banquet table, are some of the finest men In the Getbig Kingdom.  We are arming ourselves with knowledge,passion and purpose so we too, can all share the glory of becoming poetic Warrior-Kings within.  As I will continue to give out my treasures and as others continue to share their treasures, we will always hold the keys to your cellar.  You will NEVER escape and remember that you are below us. Entombed forever. Forgotten. 



The second part:  I have NEVER EVER done ANY KIND OF DRUG.  NO PRO-HORMONES either.  Lifetime Natural and forever I will remain. 



The Third Part:  Actually, Jezebelle and I have been together for EXACTLY a year now to the DAY, September 30th.  We have posted a picture together but it was deleted when the Y board changed over.  We will take a special picture for all to see, as there is a Queen in the Kingdom as well. 
Part the first:
Am I the only one who thought that that didn't resemble an explanation in any way? That was pure crazy, and hypocritical crazy at that.

Part the second:
Dumb question. You either believe him or you don't, there's no way to prove it one way or another unless someone has an old post or PM where he admits it. Personally, from the way he seems to respond to rejection/failure, I believe the people behind Joey Tito and think Adam dabbled in some juice in the past.

Part the third:
How many people on here can post a pic of themselves with a friend of the opposite sex? I know I can. That doesn't mean that a girl in a picture with me is my gf. Since Adam and Jez are never posting at the same time and her complete absence from the boards during the Mr. GetBig weekend while TA was posting every five seconds, it seems obvious that she's a gimmick account and the girl in the pictures is his friend and is likely not aware of his posting her pics all over the place and calling her his gf.

For a little bit I was thinking that TA's attitude and crazy was all a giant joke, but seeing him in "Adonis" t-shirts makes me think otherwise. That's just creepy. I think TA is just another nutjob and GetBig happens to be where he likes to let out his crazy.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Mussolini on October 01, 2006, 01:54:54 PM
Part the first:
Am I the only one who that that that didn't resemble an explanation in any way? That was pure crazy, and hypocritical crazy at that.

Part the second:
Dumb question. You either believe him or you don't, there's no way to prove it one way or another unless someone has an old post or PM where he admits it. Personally, from the way he seems to respond to rejection/failure, I believe the people behind Joey Tito and think Adam dabbled in some juice in the past.

Part the third:
How many people on here can post a pic of themselves with a friend of the opposite sex? I know I can. That doesn't mean that a girl in a picture with me is my gf. Since Adam and Jez are never posting at the same time and her complete absence from the boards during the Mr. GetBig weekend while TA was posting every five seconds, it seems obvious that she's a gimmick account and the girl in the pictures is his friend and is likely not aware of his posting her pics all over the place and calling her his gf.

For a little bit I was thinking that TA's attitude and crazy was all a giant joke, but seeing him in "Adonis" t-shirts makes me think otherwise. That's just creepy. I think TA is just another nutjob and GetBig happens to be where he likes to let out his crazy.


Which is exactly why I asked Adonis to post a pic of Him and Jezebell together with a sign stating that they are infact a couple, and then have 240 (or someone else I trust) inspect the pics to make sure they are untampered with.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: El_Spiko on October 01, 2006, 01:57:08 PM

Which is exactly why I asked Adonis to post a pic of Him and Jezebell together with a sign stating that they are infact a couple, and then have 240 (or someone else I trust) inspect the pics to make sure they are untampered with.
And surprise surprise he failed to do so and claimed victory anyway.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Mussolini on October 01, 2006, 02:55:30 PM
And surprise surprise he failed to do so and claimed victory anyway.

Yes he seems to have over looked a few "minor" details.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Mussolini on October 01, 2006, 04:47:08 PM
Still waiting for the pics Adonis.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Whiskey on October 01, 2006, 05:01:01 PM
The girl jezenelle is NOT his girlfriend.
They post the exact same stlye of writing.
She is just a friend who dosent know that her pics on all over the internt.
Personally I think TA is creepy and disturbing.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Mussolini on October 01, 2006, 05:11:14 PM
The girl jezenelle is NOT his girlfriend.
They post the exact same stlye of writing.
She is just a friend who dosent know that her pics on all over the internt.
Personally I think TA is creepy and disturbing.


elaborate please.

Im not saying either one of you is lying but who is your source that she is just his friend? You are not the first person to say this.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: The True Adonis on October 01, 2006, 05:15:49 PM
elaborate please.

Im not saying either one of you is lying but who is your source that she is just his friend? You are not the first person to say this.

He has no source.

I will comply with your request.

Can you give me a book list?

I will also send you something in return.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Mussolini on October 01, 2006, 05:22:39 PM
He has no source.

I will comply with your request.

Can you give me a book list?

I will also send you something in return.

Ok man, here is the list,

1-The Gods were Astronaughts by Erich von Daniken (personally autographed by yours truley)

2-How Hitler could have won WW2

3- What If? eminent historians imagine what might have been if had events turned out differently.

4-Battle of the bulge- Hitlers last offensive

5- Ribbentrop- an autobiography

Remember I want 240 to inspect the pic, and if he deems it legit I promise I will mail you any one of these books. I will also autograph it for you.

 
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: natural al on October 01, 2006, 05:32:37 PM
He has no source.

I will comply with your request.

Can you give me a book list?

I will also send you something in return.

Is Jez fake??  I don't know.  What I do know is that it is completly within the realm of reality that TA would make up a chick and claim that it is his woman.  TA has shown in the past that he is not an honest individual.  He claimed to have almost 20" arms, he claimed to be being interviewed for MD, he claimed to have a "big" announcement that never happened.  I think it's fully within his fragile ego to make up a girl.  Look at his reaction to being defeated in the MGB, meltdown of the highest order.  If TA doesn't win or have the complete admiration of his little lackeys he'll wither away and die.  He's already been kicked off of the majority of other internet BB boards so he feels he has to do everything he can to be a hero on this board.  Having a hot chick with him only gives his little minions something to talk about and something more for him to brag about.  I totally believe that TA has made up a mojority of things that he claims, I believe that he is not truthful and will do whatever he can to prove his point.  I also don't believe it's his fault, he can't help himself.  Like I said before without the acceptance of his little toadies on this site he would wither away and die.  It's really pathetic when you think about it.  I can log off tomorrow and my life would go on....if TA got a lifetime ban from this site he'd go insane.  He'd be foaming at the mouth within 24 hours...in the corner rocking back and forth calling up Bast and wanted minute by minute updates....."what are they saying about me?"....."don't they know I'm the best natural in the world?"...all the while most people just read his posts and roll thier eyes.

Pathetic life.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Whiskey on October 01, 2006, 05:38:09 PM
Is Jez fake??  I don't know.  What I do know is that it is completly within the realm of reality that TA would make up a chick and claim that it is his woman.  TA has shown in the past that he is not an honest individual.  He claimed to have almost 20" arms, he claimed to be being interviewed for MD, he claimed to have a "big" announcement that never happened.  I think it's fully within his fragile ego to make up a girl.  Look at his reaction to being defeated in the MGB, meltdown of the highest order.  If TA doesn't win or have the complete admiration of his little lackeys he'll wither away and die.  He's already been kicked off of the majority of other internet BB boards so he feels he has to do everything he can to be a hero on this board.  Having a hot chick with him only gives his little minions something to talk about and something more for him to brag about.  I totally believe that TA has made up a mojority of things that he claims, I believe that he is not truthful and will do whatever he can to prove his point.  I also don't believe it's his fault, he can't help himself.  Like I said before without the acceptance of his little toadies on this site he would wither away and die.  It's really pathetic when you think about it.  I can log off tomorrow and my life would go on....if TA got a lifetime ban from this site he'd go insane.  He'd be foaming at the mouth within 24 hours...in the corner rocking back and forth calling up Bast and wanted minute by minute updates....."what are they saying about me?"....."don't they know I'm the best natural in the world?"...all the while most people just read his posts and roll thier eyes.

Pathetic life.
great post natural al
So you think Adam has some sort of mental sickness?
That would explain a lot
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: natural al on October 01, 2006, 05:44:44 PM
great post natural al
So you think Adam has some sort of mental sickness?
That would explain a lot

I don't know if he has a sickness.  I know people like him, a boss I once had and an uncle I have.  My uncle and my dad didn't talk for about 6 years because my uncle told my dad how much he made.  When my dad told him he was wrong my uncle went nuts.  He could not handle anyone challenging him.  He would get kicked out of evey one of my cousins basketball games for yelling at the refs.  It's this wierd "win at all costs" mentality that I think TA has. 

I also find it odd how he has the ability to control otherwise rational people....well they might not be rational but people in general.

I think his reaction to the MGB speaks volumes of the type of person he is.  If that is not the biggest meltdown in history I don't know what is.  How many threads were started to complain about everything imaginable?  The need to be accepted by a bunch of internet personalities is tragic and pathetic.

TA, you're a smart guy but I think you need to see a doctor or something cause your lfe revolving around the acceptance of dudes on an internet board is a little creepy.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Mussolini on October 01, 2006, 05:50:06 PM
I don't know if he has a sickness.  I know people like him, a boss I once had and an uncle I have.  My uncle and my dad didn't talk for about 6 years because my uncle told my dad how much he made.  When my dad told him he was wrong my uncle went nuts.  He could not handle anyone challenging him.  He would get kicked out of evey one of my cousins basketball games for yelling at the refs.  It's this wierd "win at all costs" mentality that I think TA has. 

I also find it odd how he has the ability to control otherwise rational people....well they might not be rational but people in general.

I think his reaction to the MGB speaks volumes of the type of person he is.  If that is not the biggest meltdown in history I don't know what is.  How many threads were started to complain about everything imaginable?  The need to be accepted by a bunch of internet personalities is tragic and pathetic.

TA, you're a smart guy but I think you need to see a doctor or something cause your lfe revolving around the acceptance of dudes on an internet board is a little creepy.

Well its not like he controls alot of people. There are about 4-5 Squad guys and some of those are gimmick accounts as has been proven to be the case with Sarcasm. So the squad is really about 2-3 guys. Do they have a formal leader? Is it you TA?
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: natural al on October 01, 2006, 05:52:48 PM
Well its not like he controls alot of people. There are about 4-5 Squad guys and some of those are gimmick accounts as has been proven to be the case with Sarcasm. So the squad is really about 2-3 guys. Do they have a formal leader? Is it you TA?

I think there is more than that, they might not be official squad but there are a ton of hangers on who would love to have a little pat on the head from TA if they could get it.  I'm actually not sure if some guys are gimmicks or not, if they are and TA is posting under different names doesn't that speak volumes about where his head is at?  It tells me that he might need to be on medication if he's that obsessed with acceptance on a BB board.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Mussolini on October 01, 2006, 05:57:12 PM
Al, thanks for the in depth analysis, very interesting. Can you tell us some of your old bosses personality traits?
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Whiskey on October 01, 2006, 05:57:49 PM
I think there is more than that, they might not be official squad but there are a ton of hangers on who would love to have a little pat on the head from TA if they could get it.  I'm actually not sure if some guys are gimmicks or not, if they are and TA is posting under different names doesn't that speak volumes about where his head is at?  It tells me that he might need to be on medication if he's that obsessed with acceptance on a BB board.
He was caught out posting under wiseguy a few days ago.
Someone sent me a pm that day saying he also posted as sarcasm and mars.
He said that there ip numbers were identical.
I knew he posted under sarcasm and mars already though.
I mean its pretty obvious.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: natural al on October 01, 2006, 06:00:38 PM
He was caught out posting under wiseguy a few days ago.
Someone sent me a pm that day saying he also posted as sarcasm and mars.
He said that there ip numbers were identical.
I knew he posted under sarcasm and mars already though.
I mean its pretty obvious.

if that is true-I also got the same information-it speaks volumes, don't you think?
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Whiskey on October 01, 2006, 06:06:42 PM
I wont name names but there is someone sending pms around to people giving out this information.
Everybody here already knows True adonis is sarcasm and mars.
If anybody wants to find sarcasm they just need to find TA.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Mussolini on October 01, 2006, 06:30:51 PM
Whisky and Al, are you two guys able to spot a photoshopped pick if you saw one?
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: El_Spiko on October 01, 2006, 07:02:40 PM
I wonder if TA models himself after Arnold? He had the same personality, he just had the body and charisma to back up his arrogance. His behavior just strikes me as being so similar to the mentality that Arnold had in his younger days at least. I'm reading through Wendy Leigh's Unofficial Biography right now (the one that Arnold tried to suppress) and I've certainly been noticing the similarities in outlook.

Adam's biggest tool in manipulating people is that he will not admit fault, ever. Even when caught lying he will continue to shout out his dogma over and over again despite being proven wrong constantly. He just won't give up and won't admit he is beaten, ever. And some people misinterpret that as confidence and so are swayed by him. The moment you start to lick his boots he'll start telling you how great you are (though not as great as him) and how it's you and him against everyone else. He craves power, any kind of power, and he'll lie and cheat and do whatever he has to to get it. He is not an inherently powerful or confident person. If he was, he wouldn't be constantly on the boards trying to get people to declare him the next Weider or Schwarzenegger. I'll admit that he gets under my skin. I know he lies, I have proven he has lied as have many others, but he will never come back to reality and admit it. He will never give anyone that satisfaction. Most people, when caught in a lie, will admit it. But he will not, ever.

He does bring a lot of traffic to the boards and sparks a lot of controversy, but I don't think it's good. Every other thread turns into an argument of him and his toadies preaching his lies and those of us who are more reasonable debunking them. For those who are actually listening to him, I feel sorry because he is setting them back and costing them a lot of hard work and effort, delaying their gains and even damaging their physiques. A perfect example is DaddyWaddy, who if he had dieted clean for the MGB and come in just a little leaner than he did would have been fighting Whateva for first. But he followed Adonis' advice and it cost him some placings. I don't think that what he has to say helps the boards because anyone with a shred of reason who comes on here and sees all his posts will think that these boards aren't worth being a part of because they are full of drivel. Since I came on here I've been seeing and been a part of the same arguments over and over again because he just keeps putting them out there despite being proven wrong over and over. And I'm sure that as long as he is on here he will continue to do the same. Maybe he'll stop or leave when he gets crushed in the next MGB, but even then he might stick around and continue to propagate his madness. At least, after more time has passed less people will listen to him and follow him like sheep when the can see that his "principles" are lies and he is a fraud.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Mussolini on October 01, 2006, 07:11:14 PM
I wonder if TA models himself after Arnold? He had the same personality, he just had the body and charisma to back up his arrogance. His behavior just strikes me as being so similar to the mentality that Arnold had in his younger days at least. I'm reading through Wendy Leigh's Unofficial Biography right now (the one that Arnold tried to suppress) and I've certainly been noticing the similarities in outlook.

Adam's biggest tool in manipulating people is that he will not admit fault, ever. Even when caught lying he will continue to shout out his dogma over and over again despite being proven wrong constantly. He just won't give up and won't admit he is beaten, ever. And some people misinterpret that as confidence and so are swayed by him. The moment you start to lick his boots he'll start telling you how great you are (though not as great as him) and how it's you and him against everyone else. He craves power, any kind of power, and he'll lie and cheat and do whatever he has to to get it. He is not an inherently powerful or confident person. If he was, he wouldn't be constantly on the boards trying to get people to declare him the next Weider or Schwarzenegger. I'll admit that he gets under my skin. I know he lies, I have proven he has lied as have many others, but he will never come back to reality and admit it. He will never give anyone that satisfaction. Most people, when caught in a lie, will admit it. But he will not, ever.

He does bring a lot of traffic to the boards and sparks a lot of controversy, but I don't think it's good. Every other thread turns into an argument of him and his toadies preaching his lies and those of us who are more reasonable debunking them. For those who are actually listening to him, I feel sorry because he is setting them back and costing them a lot of hard work and effort, delaying their gains and even damaging their physiques. A perfect example is DaddyWaddy, who if he had dieted clean for the MGB and come in just a little leaner than he did would have been fighting Whateva for first. But he followed Adonis' advice and it cost him some placings. I don't think that what he has to say helps the boards because anyone with a shred of reason who comes on here and sees all his posts will think that these boards aren't worth being a part of because they are full of drivel. Since I came on here I've been seeing and been a part of the same arguments over and over again because he just keeps putting them out there despite being proven wrong over and over. And I'm sure that as long as he is on here he will continue to do the same. Maybe he'll stop or leave when he gets crushed in the next MGB, but even then he might stick around and continue to propagate his madness. At least, after more time has passed less people will listen to him and follow him like sheep when the can see that his "principles" are lies and he is a fraud.

Just how many people are following his advice? I have not done a search but I have been told there are only a handful of guys backing him up, and many gimmick accounts are being used, Including three which have been proven to be adonis-sarcasm, wiseguy, and mars.

What are his motives for creating gimmick accounts? Adonis care to enlighten us? WHy do you need gimmick accounts to market your theories?
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: The True Adonis on October 01, 2006, 07:42:16 PM
First off, Lets get this straightened out.

1.I do not use Gimmick accounts.  If I say something I will say it as I have never been afraid to do so.

2. Wendy Leigh is a liar. No idea why you want to read that trashcan Bio of Arnold.  Tons of it is made up.

3. I have never been proven wrong. EVER.  I invite you to SHOW me WHERE I HAVE BEEN PROVEN WRONG!

Do that, and I will admit it.  UNTIL THEN, you are merely fabricating lies based on what you want to believe as true.  YOU CANNOT SHOW ME ONE INSTANCE OF BEING PROVEN WRONG OR USING A GIMMICK ACCOUNT.  Simply because I don`t use gimmick accounts and I am not wrong.

So its your turn.  Show me where I have been proven wrong. You won`t because you can`t.

Its an impossibility.  Anyone who follows my advice is guaranteed the result they desire, 100 percent.

Daddywaddy has used some of the Adonis Principles but I have NEVER discussed them directly with him, so anything he does is a shot in the dark.  He is however very successful and I do see some of the Adonis Principles in play. 
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Earl1972 on October 01, 2006, 08:20:30 PM
Sometimes I don`t believe how lucky I am either...

Who will take the fall?

What I mean is, who will agree to log off and never come back on if I can prove it all?

Since some seem so surely confident in the matter, one must be willing to step up in the hopes of a pyhric victory. :)

I agreed to this about 8 weeks ago and you still haven't posted the pic I asked you to post ::)

E
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Tapeworm on October 01, 2006, 08:27:31 PM
Adonis,
Its obvious that you are a net junkie.  You have an addiction and I'm sure you know it.  I invite you to take two weeks off - no gimmick posts, nothing.  You can "hahaha" all you want when you return.

Remember your life before Getbig?  Before internet addiction?  When your life was your own and not the property of a bunch of strangers?

You can do it Adam.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: El_Spiko on October 01, 2006, 09:36:37 PM
3. I have never been proven wrong. EVER.  I invite you to SHOW me WHERE I HAVE BEEN PROVEN WRONG!

Do that, and I will admit it.  UNTIL THEN, you are merely fabricating lies based on what you want to believe as true.  YOU CANNOT SHOW ME ONE INSTANCE OF BEING PROVEN WRONG OR USING A GIMMICK ACCOUNT.  Simply because I don`t use gimmick accounts and I am not wrong.

So its your turn.  Show me where I have been proven wrong. You won`t because you can`t.

&You are such a jackass T.A.

First off, that's one of the articles I posted the reference to in one of the threads where this argument has been going on.
Second, you left out the first part of the conclusion. I have the hard copy in my hands right now. Here is what the conclusion actually said:
Conclusion
A strong theoretical basis exists for expecting a beneficial effect of a protein supplement in active people. Amino acid intake stimulates the transport of amino acids into muscle, and there is a direct link between amino acid inward transport and muscle protein synthesis. However, some experimental data suggest that exercise may actually decrease the protein requirements necessary to maintain balance. Nevertheless, it can be speculated that a protein supplement should be useful to stimulate net muscle protein synthesis, particularly if the supplement has the optimal proportion of individual amino acids. However, experiments hace yet to be performed that document such a beneficial effect of protein supplements.

You are a liar. You altered the conclusion to better suit your needs.
Third, two years later Robert R. Wolfe published Regulation of Muscle Protein by Amino Acids in The Journal of Nutrition, where he says "The results presented here establish a direct role of amino acids in regulating net muscle protein balance. Furthermore, the response is directly affected by the exact composition and amount of mixture of amino acids ingested, the timing of ingestion in relation to exercise and the amount and nature of nonprotein energy ingested with amino acids. When these findings are considered in the context of the estimation of protein or amino acid "requirements," it is clear that multiple results could be achieved for the same AMINO ACID intake, depending on the interaction of the various factors discussed above. Thus, attempts to identify a unique AMINO ACID "requirement" are likely to be unsuccessful. Furthermore, our results, along with virtually all data in the literature on the topic, suggest that increasing AMINO ACID intake will increase muscle mass, with all other variables remaining constant. Whereas this concept runs counter to popular perception, real-life examples abound in obese individuals who have signifigantly elevated muscle mass despite living sedentary lives (e.g., Ref. 28). Thus, it is likely that increasing AMINO ACID intake in accord with the principles discussed above to optimize effectiveness will promote muscle anabolism, whether in depleted individuals such as the elderly or in active athletes trying to increase muscle mass. The exact nutritional approach will determine the extent of anabolic response."
If you don't want to read it, let me sum it up. T.A. is very, very wrong, about everything he has said. Timing matters. Protein matters. A calorie is not just a calorie.
There. You were wrong. And you lied. Want me to cite yet another research article that proves you wrong?
OWNED
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: The True Adonis on October 01, 2006, 09:37:31 PM
There. You were wrong. And you lied. Want me to cite yet another research article that proves you wrong?
OWNED
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::)

That shows nothing.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: El_Spiko on October 01, 2006, 09:44:17 PM
::)

That shows nothing.
How does that show nothing? You altered an article you posted to better suit your needs. I call that lying. Also, you said that meal timing was BS, and that a calorie is a calorie. That research clearly shows that that is not the case. It showed that the quality of the calorie and the macronutrients you intake plays a major role in how you gain muscle. It proved you wrong. You said you'd admit when you were wrong, well here you go. Here's you chance. I proved you wrong. Actually, I proved you wrong twice, since you said I couldn't do it ;D
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: IFBBwannaB on October 01, 2006, 09:46:21 PM
Fagonis is simply a retard...I dont know why all of you are wasting time on him.
Thats exacly what he wants,he think that make him look good and importent....

I think he was molsted as a child,he sure does show signs of it.

BTW did your crack-wife got her fix for today yet?
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: IFBBwannaB on October 01, 2006, 10:04:38 PM
So what cell games did your friend make?

I will need to check with him,if I wont forget I will have some names later today.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Krankenstein on October 01, 2006, 10:53:46 PM
Do that, and I will admit it.  UNTIL THEN, you are merely fabricating lies based on what you want to believe as true.  YOU CANNOT SHOW ME ONE INSTANCE OF BEING PROVEN WRONG OR USING A GIMMICK ACCOUNT.  Simply because I don`t use gimmick accounts and I am not wrong.

In all fairness TA....were you the Bowflex(or something like that) guy account when you were at Mayhem (funny shit regardless)?
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: El_Spiko on October 01, 2006, 11:15:48 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHA
I proved him wrong so now he's not gonna reply. Priceless. ;D
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on October 01, 2006, 11:27:28 PM
Fagonis is simply a retard...I dont know why all of you are wasting time on him.
Thats exacly what he wants,he think that make him look good and importent....


I agree 100%. When True Anus first came on getbig, he posted pics of himself in a swastika shirt and performing salutes. His posts barely made sense grammar wise and were full of racist slurs. Now he's quoting certain authors so he comes across as some intellectual giant but it's still the same old retard. Just ignore him and it'll drive him insane, more than any insult could ever do.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: natural al on October 02, 2006, 04:10:19 AM
Whisky and Al, are you two guys able to spot a photoshopped pick if you saw one?

no.  I have no need to photoshop pics although I used to work with a guy who's very, very good at it.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Mussolini on October 02, 2006, 04:40:33 AM
THe reason I ask is because if True Adonis ever man up and post a pic of him and Jezebel together holding a sign saying they are a couple, I want to be sure its not photoshopped.

Doesnt look like He will post the pic anyways though.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: natural al on October 02, 2006, 04:44:02 AM
THe reason I ask is because if True Adonis ever man up and post a pic of him and Jezebel together holding a sign saying they are a couple, I want to be sure its not photoshopped.

Doesnt look like He will post the pic anyways though.

if he's gone out of his way to create this GF, post pics, lie about his arms, make up internet personalities, lie about having interviews and big announcements etc.  It's not that far beyond the realm of reality to slip this chick a 50 to hold up a sign.  Remember this saying "the ends justify the means".  If I was in that position where my world could potentially crumble around me I might do the same thing but I'm not dependent on acceptance on an internet message board so it really does not matter.
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: affy on October 02, 2006, 04:47:12 AM
&You are such a jackass T.A.

First off, that's one of the articles I posted the reference to in one of the threads where this argument has been going on.
Second, you left out the first part of the conclusion. I have the hard copy in my hands right now. Here is what the conclusion actually said:
Conclusion
A strong theoretical basis exists for expecting a beneficial effect of a protein supplement in active people. Amino acid intake stimulates the transport of amino acids into muscle, and there is a direct link between amino acid inward transport and muscle protein synthesis. However, some experimental data suggest that exercise may actually decrease the protein requirements necessary to maintain balance. Nevertheless, it can be speculated that a protein supplement should be useful to stimulate net muscle protein synthesis, particularly if the supplement has the optimal proportion of individual amino acids. However, experiments hace yet to be performed that document such a beneficial effect of protein supplements.

You are a liar. You altered the conclusion to better suit your needs.
Third, two years later Robert R. Wolfe published Regulation of Muscle Protein by Amino Acids in The Journal of Nutrition, where he says "The results presented here establish a direct role of amino acids in regulating net muscle protein balance. Furthermore, the response is directly affected by the exact composition and amount of mixture of amino acids ingested, the timing of ingestion in relation to exercise and the amount and nature of nonprotein energy ingested with amino acids. When these findings are considered in the context of the estimation of protein or amino acid "requirements," it is clear that multiple results could be achieved for the same AMINO ACID intake, depending on the interaction of the various factors discussed above. Thus, attempts to identify a unique AMINO ACID "requirement" are likely to be unsuccessful. Furthermore, our results, along with virtually all data in the literature on the topic, suggest that increasing AMINO ACID intake will increase muscle mass, with all other variables remaining constant. Whereas this concept runs counter to popular perception, real-life examples abound in obese individuals who have signifigantly elevated muscle mass despite living sedentary lives (e.g., Ref. 28). Thus, it is likely that increasing AMINO ACID intake in accord with the principles discussed above to optimize effectiveness will promote muscle anabolism, whether in depleted individuals such as the elderly or in active athletes trying to increase muscle mass. The exact nutritional approach will determine the extent of anabolic response."
If you don't want to read it, let me sum it up. T.A. is very, very wrong, about everything he has said. Timing matters. Protein matters. A calorie is not just a calorie.

wow sorry TA...if you actually did change the conclusion that much

then you are full of shit...why the fuck did you actually do that
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: natural al on October 02, 2006, 04:55:44 AM
wow sorry TA...if you actually did change the conclusion that much

then you are full of shit...why the fuck did you actually do that

he did and he was called out on the spot....which he ignored....
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: El_Spiko on October 02, 2006, 07:46:20 AM
wow sorry TA...if you actually did change the conclusion that much

then you are full of shit...why the fuck did you actually do that
Yeah, he changed it. He cut out the first part of the conclusion. I'd actually posted the reference to that article, as well as the other one I posted and about a half dozen others in another thread when I was argueing against his ice cream diet and he was saying that there was nothing backing up conventional nitrition for leaning out or adding mass. Imagine my surprise when I saw he was trying to use one of those articles against me :o I'm no biochemist, but my workout partner and my father and his wife are, so i've picked up enough biochem to be able to have an interest in aquiring and reading journal articles. Funny thing is, that particular article is also one that Muscletech has cited in some of their ads, so he was actually using a journal article that supplement companies use to back their protein powders.

there are times when TA's been caught out in lies before or when someone has used logic to punch holes in his theories, but this one is my favorite because there is just no bullshitting his way out of it, he was undeniably caught lying and proven wrong in everything he had been saying in one fell swoop ;D
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: The True Adonis on October 02, 2006, 08:06:07 AM
Yeah, he changed it. He cut out the first part of the conclusion. I'd actually posted the reference to that article, as well as the other one I posted and about a half dozen others in another thread when I was argueing against his ice cream diet and he was saying that there was nothing backing up conventional nitrition for leaning out or adding mass. Imagine my surprise when I saw he was trying to use one of those articles against me :o I'm no biochemist, but my workout partner and my father and his wife are, so i've picked up enough biochem to be able to have an interest in aquiring and reading journal articles. Funny thing is, that particular article is also one that Muscletech has cited in some of their ads, so he was actually using a journal article that supplement companies use to back their protein powders.

there are times when TA's been caught out in lies before or when someone has used logic to punch holes in his theories, but this one is my favorite because there is just no bullshitting his way out of it, he was undeniably caught lying and proven wrong in everything he had been saying in one fell swoop ;D
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Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: El_Spiko on October 02, 2006, 08:12:02 AM
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Once again, a clever comeback by TA. That showed me. You're nothing but a tiny tit with delusions of grandeur :)
Title: Re: Adonis psychology
Post by: Mussolini on October 02, 2006, 10:59:31 AM
if he's gone out of his way to create this GF, post pics, lie about his arms, make up internet personalities, lie about having interviews and big announcements etc.  It's not that far beyond the realm of reality to slip this chick a 50 to hold up a sign.  Remember this saying "the ends justify the means".  If I was in that position where my world could potentially crumble around me I might do the same thing but I'm not dependent on acceptance on an internet message board so it really does not matter.

you raise a good point. It seems he is even having trouble getting her to hold the sign as there is still no pic.