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Title: What the hell happened to Jay's waist
Post by: nicorulez on September 30, 2006, 02:56:20 AM
From Bodybuilding.com:

This is very bad....he lost all of his symmetry and taper at the expense of size and lack of cuts  ::) ::)

Title: Re: What the hell happened to Jay's waist
Post by: TheAnimal on September 30, 2006, 03:05:34 AM
that left nipple is worrying me as well....
well ronnie is getting away with gyno in both so maybe its not a problem
(http://www.flexonline.com/06contests/06olympia/menpre1/images/aabj0513.jpg)
Title: Re: What the hell happened to Jay's waist
Post by: Dorian 01 on September 30, 2006, 03:09:02 AM
Ronnie could pose on stage with a needle full of test hanging off his ass and still win though.
Title: Re: What the hell happened to Jay's waist
Post by: nicorulez on September 30, 2006, 03:14:00 AM
Does anyone have the abs/thigh of Jay from 2001; he looked incredible.  That was literally his signature pose.  Regardless, although I feel Ronnie will win because of his muscle thickness and density, I feel he should hang it up.  His back which used to be dominant against anyone (Dorian included in 1998-2003) has become problematic.  From the front he is unbeatable, however he is a shell of the dude who went out in 2003 and smashed everyone.  Dorian got progressively worse as his reign went on; Ronnie is carrying on the tradition.  I feel that this year may be a turning point as the sub-250 pounders like Dex, Vic and Melvin are lights out more visually appealing than Ronnie or Jay.  Jay has sacrificed his shape and taper for size; a mistake I feel.  His back, although huge, has zero detail.  He also has loose skin in his lower back.  Personally, I would take Dorian 1993, Ronnie 1998/1999 over this line up anyday.
Title: Re: What the hell happened to Jay's waist
Post by: Bix on September 30, 2006, 03:23:31 AM
From Bodybuilding.com:

This is very bad....he lost all of his symmetry and taper at the expense of size and lack of cuts  ::) ::)



Don't be so fuckin stupid, he's not even locked into that pose yet, ::)
Title: Re: What the hell happened to Jay's waist
Post by: tony b on September 30, 2006, 03:26:21 AM
Don't be so fuckin stupid, he's not even locked into that pose yet, ::)

Actually im not quite sure there Bix. He always seems to stay quite long in the torso rather than crunching down like Dexter is.
Title: Re: What the hell happened to Jay's waist
Post by: Dorian 01 on September 30, 2006, 03:28:09 AM
His monstrous lats make it look small in other poses though.

And I don't remember anyone ever saying it was his signature. I'd say his signature is one of those from the side poses that isn't a mandatory.
Title: Re: What the hell happened to Jay's waist
Post by: nicorulez on September 30, 2006, 03:34:20 AM
Ron's chest is so much thicker it is a joke.  Look at Ronnie's front relaxed pose. From Flexonline:

Title: Re: What the hell happened to Jay's waist
Post by: nicorulez on September 30, 2006, 03:35:48 AM
Don't be so fuckin stupid, he's not even locked into that pose yet, ::)
Alright Dipshit, show me a pic of this years Mr. Olympia with Jay in that pose where he is a shadow of his former self.  I am waiting.
Title: Re: What the hell happened to Jay's waist
Post by: swolllen on September 30, 2006, 03:42:43 AM
there is NO WAY IN HELL jay can be second looking like that....ronnie looks harder and drier in that relaxed pose....altough not the best ronnie coleman, his muscle density and maturity will give him #9, and of course we all know mr. olympia never loses.....to me it goes like this

ronnie   1
victor    2
dexter   3
jay        4

but it will really be like this

ronnie, jay, dex, victor
Title: Re: What the hell happened to Jay's waist
Post by: PORKY on September 30, 2006, 03:46:52 AM
Ronnie   - 1st
Jay       - 2nd
Victor    - 3rd (maybe even second if the judges seriously take aesthetics into consideration  over Jay...Jay right now looks like a fridge when doin the ab & thigh pose)  ;D
Title: Re: What the hell happened to Jay's waist
Post by: nicorulez on September 30, 2006, 03:51:16 AM
If the O was not rigged (Dorian 1997, Ronnie 2001), this would be the year that Dex got his due.  He is drier, harder and has better balance than either of the big boys.  From the side chest, his arms, chest and legs are far superior to Jay.  Ronnie is insanely huge, but he looks a shell of his former self.  After 2003, he should have come into the show in that shape but refined it.  I feel any aesthetics he had are now done.  Jay  ??? ??? ??? I have no idea what he was thinking.  He is thick, but his detail is atrocious.  Not a striation on that body.  I would take Wolf over Gutler.  BTW, what the hell happened to Gunther.  He is nowhere to be seen in the top six.
Title: Re: What the hell happened to Jay's waist
Post by: getfast81 on September 30, 2006, 04:15:57 AM
Jays waist has gotten way out of control. Second place for sure. Great condition though
Title: Re: What the hell happened to Jay's waist
Post by: thisiskeith12 on September 30, 2006, 04:37:51 AM
If we had scorecards or scoreboards, we would see that Jay has a nice lead right now.
Title: Re: What the hell happened to Jay's waist
Post by: wannabebig5 on September 30, 2006, 04:43:56 AM
man i must be blind or something because in that front relaxed pose i think jays waist looks 100x better than ronnies.  i think this is ronnies worst look ever.  even his back isnt that great. i know he'll still win but man his stomach is way worse than jay's :-\
Title: Re: What the hell happened to Jay's waist
Post by: body88 on September 30, 2006, 04:44:07 AM
Jay's waist looks the exact same. Why do you idiots come on here saying stupid shit. Ronnie is on and will win the O. Jay will take second. Dexter beating him lol... O brother.
Title: Re: What the hell happened to Jay's waist
Post by: body88 on September 30, 2006, 04:45:15 AM
man i must be blind or something because in that front relaxed pose i think jays waist looks 100x better than ronnies.  i think this is ronnies worst look ever.  even his back isnt that great. i know he'll still win but man his stomach is way worse than jay's :-\


Don't even bother. People just say dumb shit on here for the hell of it. Let em talk! Look at this "totally out of control waist aaahahah" idiots.
Title: Re: What the hell happened to Jay's waist
Post by: Dorian 01 on September 30, 2006, 04:52:26 AM
It's a lot like what female bodybuilders do to themselves. A few of these guys totally ruin their physiques trying to get the Mr.O title.
Title: Re: What the hell happened to Jay's waist
Post by: wannabebig5 on September 30, 2006, 04:55:21 AM
and then people are saying vic should win or take second.  well his waist isnt the greatest and how can you win the best bodybuilding show with no lower half of the body?  yes his back, arms, chest, and delts are amzing but its the whole package which i believe should put him maybe 3 or 4 8) just one mans opinion
Title: Re: What the hell happened to Jay's waist
Post by: Sean-DeMarco on September 30, 2006, 05:00:59 AM
If we had scorecards or scoreboards, we would see that Jay has a nice lead right now.

...yeah, right.~ ::)
Title: Re: What the hell happened to Jay's waist
Post by: phyxsius on September 30, 2006, 05:32:14 AM
Ron's chest is so much thicker it is a joke.  Look at Ronnie's front relaxed pose. From Flexonline:



Ronnie's waist is so big that dwarfs his lats
Title: Re: What the hell happened to Jay's waist
Post by: Alex23 on September 30, 2006, 05:37:32 AM
there is NO WAY IN HELL jay can be second looking like that....ronnie looks harder and drier in that relaxed pose....altough not the best ronnie coleman, his muscle density and maturity will give him #9, and of course we all know mr. olympia never loses.....to me it goes like this

ronnie   1
victor    2
dexter   3
jay        4

but it will really be like this

ronnie, jay, dex, victor

You're smoking crack..
Title: Re: What the hell happened to Jay's waist
Post by: SteelePegasus on September 30, 2006, 06:08:20 AM
From Bodybuilding.com:

This is very bad....he lost all of his symmetry and taper at the expense of size and lack of cuts  ::) ::)




Victor is killing JAY on that abs and thighs
Title: Re: What the hell happened to Jay's waist
Post by: Parker on September 30, 2006, 06:14:57 AM
Jay has always had wide-ass waist. Always has always will. He 's a refridgerator with abs. What is going on with Jay's lower bac, with all that loose skin, that wrinkles up? 

By the way, it is Melvin that deserves second, not Jay.
Title: Re: What the hell happened to Jay's waist
Post by: BayGBM on September 30, 2006, 06:25:38 AM
Does anyone have the abs/thigh of Jay from 2001; he looked incredible.  That was literally his signature pose...

This was never his best pose... he's got more muscle now but I don't think it's necessarily an improvement.
Title: Re: What the hell happened to Jay's waist
Post by: Birdman on September 30, 2006, 06:51:37 AM
that left nipple is worrying me as well....
well ronnie is getting away with gyno in both so maybe its not a problem
(http://www.flexonline.com/06contests/06olympia/menpre1/images/aabj0513.jpg)

Jay looks like one of those old chicks that loses a ton of weight and sits in the sun ALL day and smokes.  His stomach makes me wanna vomit.
Title: Re: What the hell happened to Jay's waist
Post by: affy on September 30, 2006, 07:12:05 AM
ronnies right lat is seriously gone...did he think people wouldn't notice

jay seriously needs to tone it down with the coloring (not sure if he can at this point), but hes darker then most of the black guys...he seriously looks like he's burnt up or something...no tanner today, just oil
Title: Re: What the hell happened to Jay's waist
Post by: buffbodz on September 30, 2006, 08:08:06 AM
Jay's abbs don't seem to have the tightness that Ronnie or Dex has.  Maby He doesn't work abbs much.  I know 2 pros who only do abb work a month before a show.  Some people only need to do this and their abbs are full and right.   Jay's look like they need more definition.  Maby He should work them all year.  I don't know his abb routine, but it doesn't seem enough for the rest of His body.  They look more like, and I hate to say it, Art Atwood's. 
Title: Re: What the hell happened to Jay's waist
Post by: Hulkster on September 30, 2006, 08:18:40 AM
Royalty is right (for once 8)) Jay has never ever had a great taper in the ab and thigh
Title: Re: What the hell happened to Jay's waist
Post by: donrhummy on September 30, 2006, 09:33:26 AM
From Bodybuilding.com:

This is very bad....he lost all of his symmetry and taper at the expense of size and lack of cuts  ::) ::)



Juts a note here, Dexter should start hanging out with Victor. Victor's always been criticized for his calves because they were very weak, but he's actually brought them up the last few years. It makes a BIG difference in his legs.
Title: Re: What the hell happened to Jay's waist
Post by: knny187 on September 30, 2006, 10:10:23 AM
he swallowed a pumpkin
Title: Re: What the hell happened to Jay's waist
Post by: Figo on September 30, 2006, 10:12:15 AM
Ronnie could pose on stage with a needle full of test hanging off his ass and still win though.

Priceless! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: What the hell happened to Jay's waist
Post by: G.STEELE on September 30, 2006, 10:14:37 AM
Jay's abbs don't seem to have the tightness that Ronnie or Dex has.  Maby He doesn't work abbs much.  I know 2 pros who only do abb work a month before a show.  Some people only need to do this and their abbs are full and right.   Jay's look like they need more definition.  Maby He should work them all year.  I don't know his abb routine, but it doesn't seem enough for the rest of His body.  They look more like, and I hate to say it, Art Atwood's. 
I read that Jay does abs everyday!

It doesn't seem to be working.
Title: Re: What the hell happened to Jay's waist
Post by: fearANDloathing on September 30, 2006, 06:21:35 PM
man i must be blind or something because in that front relaxed pose i think jays waist looks 100x better than ronnies. 
..yup, as a fucking BAT! Ronnie is drier AND more vascular from the front then Jay. Couple that with 8 consecutive wins and GAME OVA!
damn people only see what they want to see. :-\
Title: Re: What the hell happened to Jay's waist
Post by: getfast81 on September 30, 2006, 06:26:28 PM
hes improving..............
Title: Re: What the hell happened to Jay's waist
Post by: rccs on September 30, 2006, 06:26:39 PM
that left nipple is worrying me as well....
well ronnie is getting away with gyno in both so maybe its not a problem
(http://www.flexonline.com/06contests/06olympia/menpre1/images/aabj0513.jpg)
Ronnie has insane gyno!!!!
Not good for the champ!!! :-\
Title: Re: What the hell happened to Jay's waist
Post by: body88 on September 30, 2006, 07:19:15 PM
HAHA what a bunch of haters. Look at his waist. So massive!


Title: Re: What the hell happened to Jay's waist
Post by: body88 on September 30, 2006, 07:22:18 PM
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Title: Re: What the hell happened to Jay's waist
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on September 30, 2006, 07:23:54 PM
jay was actually able to do the impossible- he managed to defeat the gut monster! last year his gut was out of control, this year he genuinely kept his midsection tight. great job jay. midsection much improved over last year
Title: Re: What the hell happened to Jay's waist
Post by: gtbro1 on September 30, 2006, 07:28:32 PM
Ronnie could pose on stage with a needle full of test hanging off his ass and still win though.


Are you suggesting that Ronnie IS NOT natural, Dorian 01 ?