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Title: Did Ronnie even deserve 2nd?
Post by: HowieW on October 01, 2006, 06:34:43 PM
Form what few pics I have seen it appears he may have been easily placed lower.
I can see that Victor M, Dexter and maybe Melvin could have placed ahead of him.
Title: Re: Did Ronnie even deserve 2nd?
Post by: RJB on October 01, 2006, 06:38:22 PM
See thread titled "Ronnie looked like doodoo".
Title: Re: Did Ronnie even deserve 2nd?
Post by: jmt1 on October 01, 2006, 06:39:59 PM
lol...no way vic, dex or melvin deserved to beat ronnie.
Title: Re: Did Ronnie even deserve 2nd?
Post by: civello_06 on October 01, 2006, 06:51:34 PM
Form what few pics I have seen it appears he may have been easily placed lower.
I can see that Victor M, Dexter and maybe Melvin could have placed ahead of him.

Come on man.It seems to me that there was an underlying suspicion by everyone that the higher ups were tired of Ronnie.Even Kamali the Queer claimed that there would be a new champion.I wont make to blunt of a statement but its possible that even if Ronnie had shown up in shape he would have been de-throned.Not to sound to conspiracy like but Ronnie didnt seem to surprised at the annoucement on the video.Pherhaps he was informed of the situation prior to the show.
Title: Re: Did Ronnie even deserve 2nd?
Post by: candidate2025 on October 01, 2006, 06:52:26 PM
both jay and ronnie were not deserving of their places....dex and victor loked better than both of them.
Title: Re: Did Ronnie even deserve 2nd?
Post by: HERACLES on October 01, 2006, 06:53:28 PM
hahaha, yeah maybe you guys are right, he shouldnt of placed in the top 5  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

He is WAAAAAAY BETTER than Victor...are you insane?
Title: Re: Did Ronnie even deserve 2nd?
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on October 01, 2006, 06:53:44 PM
Come on man.It seems to me that there was an underlying suspicion by everyone that the higher ups were tired of Ronnie.Even Kamali the Queer claimed that there would be a new champion.I wont make to blunt of a statement but its possible that even if Ronnie had shown up in shape he would have been de-throned.Not to sound to conspiracy like but Ronnie didnt seem to surprised at the annoucement on the video.Pherhaps he was informed of the situation prior to the show.

Total b.s. man....Ronnie had WAY bigger and better arms, quas that made Jay look like Pee WEe Herman (in elite BB terms) and superior structure...Jay GUTler/fridge. Nice guy Jay is but this is no popularity contest.
Title: Re: Did Ronnie even deserve 2nd?
Post by: candidate2025 on October 01, 2006, 06:59:03 PM
hahaha, yeah maybe you guys are right, he shouldnt of placed in the top 5  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

He is WAAAAAAY BETTER than Victor...are you insane?

he is way better than vicotr. no arguing that.  but in this contest......victor LOOKED better. so did dex.   cutler on the other hand im not so sure...he did look better on sat. night, but in the pre judging ronnie took him.
Title: Re: Did Ronnie even deserve 2nd?
Post by: HERACLES on October 01, 2006, 07:02:03 PM
he is way better than vicotr. no arguing that.  but in this contest......victor LOOKED better. so did dex.   cutler on the other hand im not so sure...he did look better on sat. night, but in the pre judging ronnie took him.

Candidate, ROnnies muscle mass is unparallel...his legs, arms, back, everything, its insane...even if he was off conditioning wise, that still wouldnt be enough for Victor to beat him....

I love Jay, im just sticking up for Ronnie, for all the undeserved bashing..i shouldnt give a rats ass, but these members here that call themselves bodybuilding fans, to bash Ronnie after all these great memorable O's is just ANNOYING...

TRUTH: IF IT WASNT FOR RONNIE AND JAY, I WOULDNT EVEN FOLLOR THE MRO, BC EVERYONE ELSE IS BORING. Ronnie always made it interesting.
Title: Re: Did Ronnie even deserve 2nd?
Post by: civello_06 on October 01, 2006, 07:02:16 PM
Total b.s. man....Ronnie had WAY bigger and better arms, quas that made Jay look like Pee WEe Herman (in elite BB terms) and superior structure...Jay GUTler/fridge. Nice guy Jay is but this is no popularity contest.
Dont take it wrong man, like I said I didnt want to be to blunt just make some suggestions.I have never been a Ronnie fan but I've never knocked him either and I have the utmost respect for the man.I do not like Jay however.I entirelly agree with you that Ronnie is way out of Jays league, unfortunatlly he didnt show that at the O.But, I also have to agree with the fact that Jay and Ronnie didnt deserve their places, they just gave Ronnie a gift on his way out.I think it was someone on this board that suggested Jay would recieve a "sympathy Sandow."
Title: Re: Did Ronnie even deserve 2nd?
Post by: jmt1 on October 01, 2006, 07:04:06 PM
lol...look at victors quads...or should i say lack of quads...and his funky site injected calves...ronnie is light years ahead of him.

even when ronnie is off the only one of those guys who can touch him is jay.

when ronnie is on....like he will be next year...noone one that stage can touch him...he is in a league of his own.
Title: Re: Did Ronnie even deserve 2nd?
Post by: candidate2025 on October 01, 2006, 07:05:01 PM
Candidate, ROnnies muscle mass is unparallel...his legs, arms, back, everything, its insane...even if he was off conditioning wise, that still wouldnt be enough for Victor to beat him....

I love Jay, im just sticking up for Ronnie, for all the undeserved bashing..i shouldnt give a rats ass, but these members here that call themselves bodybuilding fans, to bash Ronnie after all these great memorable O's is just ANNOYING...

TRUTH: IF IT WASNT FOR RONNIE AND JAY, I WOULDNT EVEN FOLLOR THE MRO, BC EVERYONE ELSE IS BORING. Ronnie always made it interesting.
ronnie only out massed victor in the legs this year, but victors legs actually had cuts in them..   ronnies arms are were better, but they werent bigger, just much better shaped and seperated.   ronnies chest, back, calves, shoulders, and abdomen all were beaten by victor.

im not bashing ronnie either....he looked amazing.  hes still my favorite bodybuilder...but he just didnt have it brotha.
Title: Re: Did Ronnie even deserve 2nd?
Post by: jmt1 on October 01, 2006, 07:13:39 PM
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Title: Re: Did Ronnie even deserve 2nd?
Post by: El_Spiko on October 01, 2006, 07:19:05 PM
Ronnie is one of the greatest bodybuilders ever. But he wasn't last night ro the day before. It's not bashing him it's being truthful. He was clearly injured, and I'm betting from how severe the lat injury looked on some painkillers, which would screw up his conditioning. Jay came in amazing shape and deserved that win. What is more likely, that there was some grand conspiracy going on that Ronnie was a part of where they gave Jay a Sandow, or that Ronnie knew he was injured and no in his best shape and saw that Jay came in 100%? On the stage they play up the rivalry, but off of it they're cool with each other and have even worked out together. If Ronnie could see that he was not the better man that night, why can't everyone else. I know last night was a huge shock, but the fact was that we saw the better man win. I'm sure if Ronnie had come in slightly better condition or his asymmetrical appearance had been less blatant he would have edged out Jay for the win, but that's not what happened. Ronnie gambled and competed despite injuries. And he lost. No slight, it doesn't diminish his record, it's just the way it is.
Title: Re: Did Ronnie even deserve 2nd?
Post by: HowieW on October 03, 2006, 07:40:47 AM
Dont take it wrong man, like I said I didnt want to be to blunt just make some suggestions.I have never been a Ronnie fan but I've never knocked him either and I have the utmost respect for the man.I do not like Jay however.I entirelly agree with you that Ronnie is way out of Jays league, unfortunatlly he didnt show that at the O.But, I also have to agree with the fact that Jay and Ronnie didnt deserve their places, they just gave Ronnie a gift on his way out.I think it was someone on this board that suggested Jay would recieve a "sympathy Sandow."

I agree when Ronnie is dead on the $ he is unreal and alien like.However, he was a few lbs over and well off the ideal contest mark. One must judge the physique on the stage that day.
I would have had Ronnie lower on this day but feel he deserved all but 1 of his OLympia titles.
Title: Re: Did Ronnie even deserve 2nd?
Post by: BigWhoop on October 03, 2006, 07:41:58 AM
His arms are the only thing that are cut!! hahaha
Title: Re: Did Ronnie even deserve 2nd?
Post by: tfalce on October 03, 2006, 10:28:41 AM
I agree, Ronnie was to heavy and Vic looked great! Chad does a great job, he is the best in the business!
Title: Re: Did Ronnie even deserve 2nd?
Post by: shootfighter1 on October 03, 2006, 10:36:53 AM
Ronnie just looks really big.  Lack of muscle separation everywhere but his arms.  I don't know if its his conditioning (most likely), age, injuries, use of excessive supps for many yrs.  I am very excited he is competing again next year and wondering if he can regain some of that sharpness and separation he was known for earlier.  Definitely miscalculated being fixated on coming in heavier. 

I hope that everyone can stop chasing Ronnie's mass now and the judges will start to reward more shapely physiques.  3-5th placings reflected this.  It would be nice to see Jay with a less blocky look too...but IMO he took it there to compete w/ Ronnie's size.  2001 is still Jay's best appearance IMO.