Weider / Wayne / Manion triangle

[240 is Back]

Can someone give us a one-paragraph-or-less summary of the Weider/ Demilia/ Manion relationship?  Who was whose boss when, who blamed who for what, who made moves for whose job, etc etc? 

Also, what was the exact reason for Manion movin' on up, and what was Joe/Ben's statements on it back then?

[onlyme]

Man I thought it was a thread about Betty.

[Lift Studios]

Wayne wanted to be Weider.

[G o a t b o y]

Wayne wanted to be Weider.

Weider will be dead in a few years.  Wayne couldn't wait?

[240 is Back]

Wayne wanted to be Weider.

Interesting.

Did weider say this publicly, or did it come from the guy who inherited Wayne's shoes?

[Lift Studios]

Interesting.

Did weider say this publicly, or did it come from the guy who inherited Wayne's shoes?

My guess is you'll get confirmation from Mr. Weider himself on the PBW broadcast.

[Lift Studios]

My guess is you'll get confirmation from Mr. Weider himself on the PBW broadcast.

MONSTER PREDICTION. 

[Special Ed]

Ben Weider ran the IFBB. Wayne ran the IFBB shows. Manion ran the NPC and was a judge at big IFBB shows.

IFBB was restucturing. Wayne saw an opportunity. Contacted Lorimer/Schwarzenegger about splitting off. Lorimer initially said okay. Wayne thought he had IFBB by the balls because they would control the NOC and the Arnold. Weider got wind of the mutiny and reached out to Lorimer. Probably doubled his pay for the Arnold. Wayne came out blazing with his Pro Division shirts and plans of global domination. Lorimer left him hanging in the wind. IFBB sent Wayne packing. Manion steps up to fill Wayne's old spot while still reaping NPC windfall. Weider, Lorimer, and Manion have a good laugh at outcast Wayne's expense. Wayne plots revenge. Sets out to destroy IFBB by launching PDI anyway. Signs Jack London. IFBB cowers in fear. Signs Lee Priest. IFBB realizes they need to "assert" themselves in an Irish Mafia kind of way. Hire Chick and Shawn Ray as "goons" to intimidate others into remaining "loyal" to organization that doesn't give a crap about them. Stoolies Taylor, Galanti, and TJ run back to IFBB/NPC in fear. NOC goes on and Priest brings home a nice payday. IFBB fears losing more Pros. Try to buy Priest back into the IFBB, but offer isn't right. British NOC goes on and Sami brings home a nice payday. At this point, any IFBB Pro without an endorsement deal that pays more than 25K realizes that PDI is a viable alternative. Priest may not win every show. Many IFBB pros who could beat Sami but couldn't make a dime at an IFBB Pro show.

That's it in a nutshell.

Special (This is me in a nutshell) Ed

[divcom]

Wayne wanted to be Weider.

It takes a company moving $200M in goods to be Weider.

[G o a t b o y]

It takes a company moving $200M in goods to be Weider.

Maybe in the past, but now without magazines or a supplement company, Weider is just a name.

[divcom]

Maybe in the past, but now without magazines or a supplement company, Weider is just a name.

Boy...I need to catch up.  Thought I saw a can of Weider Sugar Protein Powder at King Soopers. 

[irish_strenght]

it was a love triangle

[RHINO290]

Ben Weider ran the IFBB. Wayne ran the IFBB shows. Manion ran the NPC and was a judge at big IFBB shows.

IFBB was restucturing. Wayne saw an opportunity. Contacted Lorimer/Schwarzenegger about splitting off. Lorimer initially said okay. Wayne thought he had IFBB by the balls because they would control the NOC and the Arnold. Weider got wind of the mutiny and reached out to Lorimer. Probably doubled his pay for the Arnold. Wayne came out blazing with his Pro Division shirts and plans of global domination. Lorimer left him hanging in the wind. IFBB sent Wayne packing. Manion steps up to fill Wayne's old spot while still reaping NPC windfall. Weider, Lorimer, and Manion have a good laugh at outcast Wayne's expense. Wayne plots revenge. Sets out to destroy IFBB by launching PDI anyway. Signs Jack London. IFBB cowers in fear. Signs Lee Priest. IFBB realizes they need to "assert" themselves in an Irish Mafia kind of way. Hire Chick and Shawn Ray as "goons" to intimidate others into remaining "loyal" to organization that doesn't give a crap about them. Stoolies Taylor, Galanti, and TJ run back to IFBB/NPC in fear. NOC goes on and Priest brings home a nice payday. IFBB fears losing more Pros. Try to buy Priest back into the IFBB, but offer isn't right. British NOC goes on and Sami brings home a nice payday. At this point, any IFBB Pro without an endorsement deal that pays more than 25K realizes that PDI is a viable alternative. Priest may not win every show. Many IFBB pros who could beat Sami but couldn't make a dime at an IFBB Pro show.

That's it in a nutshell.

Special (This is me in a nutshell) Ed

Wow ED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Monster fucking truth. You are right on!

nice, really nice....

[lonewolf]

Ben Weider ran the IFBB. Wayne ran the IFBB shows. Manion ran the NPC and was a judge at big IFBB shows.

IFBB was restucturing. Wayne saw an opportunity. Contacted Lorimer/Schwarzenegger about splitting off. Lorimer initially said okay. Wayne thought he had IFBB by the balls because they would control the NOC and the Arnold. Weider got wind of the mutiny and reached out to Lorimer. Probably doubled his pay for the Arnold. Wayne came out blazing with his Pro Division shirts and plans of global domination. Lorimer left him hanging in the wind. IFBB sent Wayne packing. Manion steps up to fill Wayne's old spot while still reaping NPC windfall. Weider, Lorimer, and Manion have a good laugh at outcast Wayne's expense. Wayne plots revenge. Sets out to destroy IFBB by launching PDI anyway. Signs Jack London. IFBB cowers in fear. Signs Lee Priest. IFBB realizes they need to "assert" themselves in an Irish Mafia kind of way. Hire Chick and Shawn Ray as "goons" to intimidate others into remaining "loyal" to organization that doesn't give a crap about them. Stoolies Taylor, Galanti, and TJ run back to IFBB/NPC in fear. NOC goes on and Priest brings home a nice payday. IFBB fears losing more Pros. Try to buy Priest back into the IFBB, but offer isn't right. British NOC goes on and Sami brings home a nice payday. At this point, any IFBB Pro without an endorsement deal that pays more than 25K realizes that PDI is a viable alternative. Priest may not win every show. Many IFBB pros who could beat Sami but couldn't make a dime at an IFBB Pro show.

That's it in a nutshell.

Special (This is me in a nutshell) Ed

Ed you are so right on every point that you made except that Ben is also a pompous ,lying, self serving greedy old bastard who thinks he is going to live forever. His olympic dream is a joke.