what do you guys make of this

[24KT]

perfect analysis hedge. the reason the prayers effected people is because of morphic resonance in my estimation, a new theory but offers alot of answers.

usmp, could you clarify what you mean by "morphic resonance". I'm curious to see if we're on the same page

[bigandbrolic]

hedge/ Zack


if i gave you five minutes to write down all of the good that affects your life and then write down all the bad, i guarantee all of the good surpasses the bad.  I can sit and complain that in 2005 my sister died of cancer at 36 years old and then my grandmother died and my pastor died but on the other hand my wife had a baby, my niece and nephew got skipped grades because they were ahead of the rest of the kids, i still have 2 other sisters and 2 brothers, my mom and dad, the sun still shines, it rains sometimes and on and on and on. 

it does not matter what belief you have or which god you worship, if you worship a god THE GOOD IN YOUR LIFE ALWAYS OUTWEIGHS THE BAD.  when God created Adam and Eve he layed out a perfect world but it was changed because he gave them freedom of choice.  it brings more joy and glory to God when humans choose him freely so why wouldn't he answer prayers?

ROMANS 8:18   "For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that shall be revealed in us."

[Hedgehog]

hedge/ Zack


if i gave you five minutes to write down all of the good that affects your life and then write down all the bad, i guarantee all of the good surpasses the bad.  I can sit and complain that in 2005 my sister died of cancer at 36 years old and then my grandmother died and my pastor died but on the other hand my wife had a baby, my niece and nephew got skipped grades because they were ahead of the rest of the kids, i still have 2 other sisters and 2 brothers, my mom and dad, the sun still shines, it rains sometimes and on and on and on. 

it does not matter what belief you have or which god you worship, if you worship a god THE GOOD IN YOUR LIFE ALWAYS OUTWEIGHS THE BAD.  when God created Adam and Eve he layed out a perfect world but it was changed because he gave them freedom of choice.  it brings more joy and glory to God when humans choose him freely so why wouldn't he answer prayers?

ROMANS 8:18   "For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that shall be revealed in us."

What I question is merely how people that claim the existance of God, at the same time claims he/she/it interfers at times, and doesn't at other times.

By doing so, these people merely fuels the argument that God doesn't exist because if he did, why would he allow any of the evil that goes on the world today?

There's a saying that goes: The Lord works in mysterious ways. But the Tsunami? The 9/11? The Rwanda tragedy? The Killing Fields in Cambodia, (Khmer Rouge)? The Genocide of the Jews? The Horrors of Auschwitz? The crimes of Stalin?

God allowed this to happen, but is still going to help people in everyday situations? N***a, please.

It's only natural that people prays for better times, or for whatever. And gives credit to God when "good" things happen. But it becomes a logical somersault, the logic is lost.

"God did this, God did that"... It makes me sick.

Summing up Christianity: The Lord gave us his son and Jesus died for our sins. That is all. We are to follow his example, to the best of our abilities.

Sorry, the Lord ain't gonna intervene in nothing. Believing he will, would be heresy, or at least losing the faith, IMO.

YIP
Zack

[Puller]

If you believe in Christ then you believe in divine intervention.



"Christ's Resurrection is an object of faith in that it is a transcendent intervention of God himself in creation and history. In it the three divine persons act together as one, and manifest their own proper characteristics. The Father's power "raised up" Christ his Son and by doing so perfectly introduced his Son's humanity, including his body, into the Trinity. Jesus is conclusively revealed as "Son of God in power according to the Spirit of holiness by his Resurrection from the dead".514 St. Paul insists on the manifestation of God's power515 through the working of the Spirit who gave life to Jesus' dead humanity and called it to the glorious state of Lordship."

And if you're catholic and want to have a better understanding of your religion, as we all need, then please read the following

http://www.vatican.va/archive/catechism/ccc_toc.htm

[loco]

but is still going to help people in everyday situations? N***a, please.

Sorry, the Lord ain't gonna intervene in nothing. Believing he will, would be heresy

Summing up Christianity: The Lord gave us his son and Jesus died for our sins.

Zack,
you do say some good things, but then you contradict yourself...again and again. 

How is "The Lord gave us his son and Jesus died for our sins" NOT divine intervention?  If this is not divine intervention, then what is?

"the Lord ain't gonna intervene in nothing."?
"Believing he will, would be heresy"?
Do you believe in Jesus?  Jesus often said that the Lord WILL intervene, in the little things and in the great things.  Jesus taught us that God is very much involved in our everyday lives.  Is Jesus a heretic?  Just because some people have a problem understanding suffering and death does not mean that God does not interfere, or that God is not good and just.  I'm just trying to understand your logic.

Luke 11:9-10
"So I say to you: Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.
For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened."

Luke 18:1-8
Then Jesus told his disciples a parable to show them that they should always pray and not give up.
He said: "In a certain town there was a judge who neither feared God nor cared about men.
And there was a widow in that town who kept coming to him with the plea, 'Grant me justice against my adversary.'
"For some time he refused. But finally he said to himself, 'Even though I don't fear God or care about men,
yet because this widow keeps bothering me, I will see that she gets justice, so that she won't eventually wear me out with her coming!' "
And the Lord said, "Listen to what the unjust judge says.
And will not God bring about justice for his chosen ones, who cry out to him day and night? Will he keep putting them off?
I tell you, he will see that they get justice, and quickly. However, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the earth?"

Matthew 6:9-15
"This, then, is how you should pray:
" 'Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,
your kingdom come,
your will be done
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us today our daily bread.
Forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.
And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from the evil one.

Matthew 21:22
If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer."

Matthew 24:20
Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath.

Matthew 26:41
"Watch and pray so that you will not fall into temptation. The spirit is willing, but the body is weak."

[loco]

It's only natural that people prays for better times, or for whatever. And gives credit to God when "good" things happen. But it becomes a logical somersault, the logic is lost.

"God did this, God did that"... It makes me sick.

I do agree with you that there are some Christians who have made the mistake to put God in this little box of theirs where only things that we consider "good" come from God and nothing that we consider "bad" comes from God.  But according to God's word, many things that we consider "bad' come from God too and we should be aware of this, trust him and thank him, for the good things and for the bad things too.  God is still good and just, even if he does or gives us what we consider "bad" things. 
 
When my father, a good man and a great Christian, was diagnosed with a terminal decease and given just a few more months to live, I remember my father praying right then "Lord, thank you for the good things, and thank you for the bad things too." 

Now, I loved my father very much.  We were very close.  He was a great father to me and a great husband to my mother.  My world came crashing down when I found out that he was terminally ill and about to die, but following my father's good example, I prayed "Lord, thank you for the good things and for the bad things too.  You give and you take away, blessed be your name."

Job 1:21
The LORD gave and the LORD has taken away; may the name of the LORD be praised."

Job 5:18
For he wounds, but he also binds up;
he injures, but his hands also heal.

1 Samuel 16:14
Now the Spirit of the LORD had departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD tormented him.

Romans 8:28
And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose.

[Necrosis]

usmp, could you clarify what you mean by "morphic resonance". I'm curious to see if we're on the same page

sorry for not answering, didnt see your post. morphic resonance simply refers to fields of memory energy, and that we have a collective memory bank, in which memories are stored. this explains telepathy which is a FACT, and other phenomenon. everyone has a morphic field or pattern of energy or memory in which changes to the morphic field will in fact change the body. for example a kid that had a genetic defect, which is always fatal. had a dream he would get better, and suddenly his cells reverted to normal(duke university). millions of simultaneous mutations are not possible, but one simple change to his morphic field explains it, mind can effect matter, in turn which matter is actually energy. sounds new agey, and i have bastardized it somewhat but it has many practical applications, and seems to be gaining somewhat. i could go into more detail about these subjects, so if your interested i will elaborate. here is something to read, it is the site of the originator, and is very good with alot of research.

http://www.sheldrake.org/Articles&Papers/papers/morphic/morphic_intro.html

migs, to your comment, it is statistically sig so your theory is wrong, the chances of them all getting better would be impossible statistically speaking without something actually happening.