Author Topic: The guts, whats to blame? (Read 2511 times)

muscularny · « **on:** March 17, 2007, 10:12:32 AM »

The guts started in 2002 so what changed, it seemed everything was working fine you had those crazy physiques between 93-01 (yates, levrone, ray. Coleman 01) then all of a sudden the distended guts started to effect many.

Slin has been around way before 01 and so was GH.

Whats your take, is it the added amounts or is it IGF + Slin + GH

Lets hear some opinions

donrhummy · « **Reply #1 on:** March 17, 2007, 10:59:21 AM »

Quote from: muscularny on March 17, 2007, 10:12:32 AM

The guts started in 2002 so what changed, it seemed everything was working fine you had those crazy physiques between 93-01 (yates, levrone, ray. Coleman 01) then all of a sudden the distended guts started to effect many.

Slin has been around way before 01 and so was GH.

Whats your take, is it the added amounts or is it IGF + Slin + GH

Lets hear some opinions

Yates had a gut waaaay before 2002.

XXXII/LX · « **Reply #2 on:** March 17, 2007, 11:05:00 AM »

Quote from: muscularny on March 17, 2007, 10:12:32 AM

Whats your take, is it the added amounts or is it IGF + Slin + GH

YES!!!

SWOLETRAIN · « **Reply #3 on:** March 17, 2007, 11:11:31 AM »

slin gh igf+ extremely high carbs!!! its a nasty habit

biceps · « **Reply #4 on:** March 17, 2007, 11:47:38 AM »

to many units of insulin with to much grams of carbs(sugar)

Wiggs · « **Reply #5 on:** March 17, 2007, 12:04:56 PM »

insulin for the most part gh on some occasions. in addition youhave to remember these guys eat alot of food so the gut is bound to protrude.

BroadStreetBruiser · « **Reply #6 on:** March 17, 2007, 12:08:43 PM »

Remember the movie Dream Team where Michael Keaton says "Maybe my chair is in a circle and the rest of the chairs aren't"....

Well maybe a gut should be mandatory since there isn't many w/o one these days.

IceCold · « **Reply #7 on:** March 17, 2007, 12:19:20 PM »

Quote from: Matt C on March 17, 2007, 12:09:36 PM

Force feeding and training also play a role. Not to mention genetics. Gunter does all of the above and he doesn't have a gut. I know some of you won't want to acknowledge these things, but they are still true.

i agree.

the smaller guys like dexter, priest, ray, wheeler, etc. use just as much gh and dont have guts.

they dont get as heavy and probably dont each as much as someone who competes over 260.

affy · « **Reply #8 on:** March 17, 2007, 12:22:51 PM »

Quote from: IceCold on March 17, 2007, 12:19:20 PM

i agree.

the smaller guys like dexter, priest, ray, wheeler, etc. use just as much gh and dont have guts.

they dont get as heavy and probably dont each as much as someone who competes over 260.

why do people think dexter doesn't have a gut. just because his conditioning is amazing doesn't mean he doesn't have a gut. Look at his relaxed pictures, he could put alot of other pros to shame with his gut

SWOLETRAIN · « **Reply #9 on:** March 17, 2007, 12:42:10 PM »

anywhere between 150-300gms carbs i know a national competitor who hits slin and then pounds 1000gms of carbs

just a little gut

Stark · « **Reply #10 on:** March 17, 2007, 01:04:57 PM »

Come on guys it's simple, if you a lot you stomach will grow.

muscularny · « **Reply #11 on:** March 17, 2007, 03:56:53 PM »

lol matt c whos hating im just asking because going thru dvd's i notice this huge look difference

240 is Back · « **Reply #12 on:** March 17, 2007, 03:58:32 PM »

I blame the McDonalds Dollar Menu.

muscularny · « **Reply #13 on:** March 17, 2007, 06:43:25 PM »

blaming food is stupid, in the 90's bodybuilders figured out how to eat, please

ubaz · « **Reply #14 on:** March 17, 2007, 06:52:54 PM »

didn't gh15 speak on this? something to do with low bodyfat % in contest condition etc.

Stark · « **Reply #15 on:** March 17, 2007, 06:55:29 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on March 17, 2007, 03:58:32 PM

I blame the McDonalds Dollar Menu.

sure lol

G o a t b o y · « **Reply #16 on:** March 17, 2007, 07:17:11 PM »

Quote from: SWOLETRAIN on March 17, 2007, 12:42:10 PM

i know a national competitor who hits slin and then pounds 1000gms of carbs just a little gut

Why in gods name would you do something like that? Even if you're 100% carb depleted, you can't store that much carbohydrate as glycogen, and you certainly can't use that much for energy, so where's it gonna go? That's right, fat storage!

That's also a good way to give yourself diabetes if you do that kind of crap long-term.

I swear, bodybuilders are getting dumber and dumber.

muscularny · « **Reply #17 on:** March 17, 2007, 07:41:07 PM »

i remember a while ago kamali made some post about how insulin makes ya fat

wonder when bodybuilders started playing with slin

Captain Equipoise · « **Reply #18 on:** March 18, 2007, 01:34:51 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on March 17, 2007, 03:58:32 PM

I blame the McDonalds Dollar Menu.

Finally the root of all evil is revealed..

timfogarty · « **Reply #19 on:** March 18, 2007, 01:40:57 AM »

the protruding gut is from visceral fat, also called adipose, a huge deposit of fat deep in the abdomen, between the internal organs. while they're able to keep their skin paper thin, insulin and GH increase the intra abdominal fat.

this protruding gut started appearing in the mid 1990s, which is shortly after they started adding insulin to the GH.

Captain Equipoise · « **Reply #20 on:** March 18, 2007, 02:04:17 AM »

I think it's also related to organ growth from GH.. your intestines start pushing out...

Author Topic: The guts, whats to blame? (Read 2511 times)

affy