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Why the coming war on Iran might be stopped... dramatically
« on: March 30, 2007, 07:42:24 AM »
We cynical keyboard warriors have been discussing the likelihood of a false-flag operation to provide cover for an attack on Iran since the beginning. But we're nobodies, of course.

Then you have a Republican, Ron Paul, speaking from the floor of the House of Representatives, saying “A contrived Gulf of Tonkin-type incident may well occur to gain popular support for an attack on Iran.” But he's running for President, with lots of kooky ideas about the government being out of control, so why give him any airtime?

But then you have Zbigniew Brzezinski, testifying before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee no less, saying "A plausible scenario for a military collision with Iran involves...some provocation in Iraq or a terrorist act in the U.S. blamed on Iran; culminating in a “defensive” U.S. military action against Iran". If you review his career over at the Wikipedia, you will understand what an extraordinarily dramatic gesture this public statement was. [He knows exactly how the game is played... and it does not customarily involve acknowledging that the U.S. government does this kind of thing.] Media coverage: negligible, of course.

Keep in mind: This is a guy who wrote "the three grand imperatives of imperial geostrategy are to prevent collusion and maintain security dependence among the vassals, to keep tributaries pliant and protected, and to keep the barbarians from coming together". In other words: Not someone the least bit conflicted about the ruthless projection of American power.

So what the fuck?

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<< What we are seeing here is the balkanization of the elite. This is a clash of the titans, a war of the gods. The most powerful people on the planet don’t want the conflict to expand into Iran.

Brzezinski’s New World Order involves the heavy use of smoke and mirrors to keep the “vassals” in line. Brute force isn’t a smart way to go about it. He’s more about buying off elites in target states, selective use of black ops and building broad coalitions with other powerful criminals in order to dominate. Brzezinski’s model is heavy on back channel manipulation, secret deals and the realization hegemony is going to happen with the U.S., or without the U.S.

How do you go about it?

This is where the split has obviously occurred.

Cheney, et al. want to take it all for themselves by force. It’s not any more complicated than that.

Brzezinski’s approach, and what we can think of as the approach of the “mainstream” elite, is to gather together and make a list of countries and resources that need to be exploited, and work out a multilateral program to accomplish those goals. (Watch the Godfather movies!)

Brzezinski’s contempt for the people at the bottom of the pyramid is total. His problem with what’s happening now is not so much with the loss of life, but with the fact that appearances are not being maintained. Maintaining appearances is critical to local elites who are tasked with getting the masses on board. If the masses aren’t buying whatever line of bullshit is being thrown around about why they’re being ripped off, that’s a problem for the people who are trying to do the ripping off.

Brzezinski’s role as consiglieri to the elite has been to get them to realize that, by working together, increasingly impressive crimes are possible, up to and including total control of the planet. On the other hand, to strike out on criminal ventures individually, without the cooperation and coordination with the other partners, risks introducing too much chaos into the system. While this chaos might benefit one crime family, it threatens the rackets of several other crime families.

Continuing the mafia analogy, Dubya, Cheney, Rumsfeld, et. al. are the junkyard dog, thug elements of the crime family that runs the U.S. ...

Imagine you’re a member of the mafia, working some racket that you’ve always worked, but recently, you’ve decided to start up some other racket without working through the usual channels. What just happened in the U.S. Senate would be the equivalent of Don Corleone placing a severed horse’s head in your bed with you as you slept. (The Iraq Study Group report represented the first warning to this branch of the mafia. It was not heeded.) ...

Brzezinski’s testimony indicates to me that the expansion of the conflict into Iran might not be allowed to happen. Don’t ask me how it will be stopped, but he is the mouthpiece of the people who run this show, not in appearance, but in fact. He didn’t say what would happen if Congress doesn’t stop the junk yard dogs. Hopefully, Congress is smart enough to parse the meaning of that bloody horse’s head on the pillow next to them. >>

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Re: Why the coming war on Iran might be stopped... dramatically
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2007, 11:05:37 AM »
Zbigniew was on the daily show, i think twice, this year.  He was on last week and he is on smart, calculated man.  I mean, every republican would love to have this guy over for dinner.  Very pro-america, pro-american interests.  He rated Bush1 a B, Clinton a C, and Bush2 an F.

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Re: Why the coming war on Iran might be stopped... dramatically
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2007, 12:18:59 PM »
I prefer his approach..black ops..knocking over governments through popular movements rather then US troops. Most of the world either loves us or fears us..I would rather keep the use of military force as the biggest threat to hold over their heads. Nobody wants a piece of us on the conventional battlefield and it costs too much for us to send guys out all over the place. We managed nicely for alomost 40 years doing it the old way during the cold war.
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Re: Why the coming war on Iran might be stopped... dramatically
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2007, 04:05:32 PM »
over 3000 killed for big oil...now they got their eyes on Iran.  I only hope it doesn't happen
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Re: Why the coming war on Iran might be stopped... dramatically
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2007, 04:09:24 PM »
I prefer his approach..black ops..knocking over governments through popular movements rather then US troops. Most of the world either loves us or fears us..I would rather keep the use of military force as the biggest threat to hold over their heads. Nobody wants a piece of us on the conventional battlefield and it costs too much for us to send guys out all over the place. We managed nicely for alomost 40 years doing it the old way during the cold war.

But times have caught up with the US for actions during the cold war.

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Re: Why the coming war on Iran might be stopped... dramatically
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2007, 12:17:56 AM »
But times have caught up with the US for actions during the cold war.

technology has leveled the playing field.  It used to be, we had the tech, and they had rifles.

Now, they have gps, roadside bombs, email, etc. 

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Re: Why the coming war on Iran might be stopped... dramatically
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2007, 08:21:33 PM »
It is hard to combat guerilla warfare.
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Re: Why the coming war on Iran might be stopped... dramatically
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2007, 09:47:11 PM »
I kind of suspect a little bit false flag stuff with the Iran is supplying bombs to insurgents in Iraq.  Just thought it was a little strange that they would covertly supply an insurgency with items that say, "Made in Iran" stamped across the side. ::)