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Re: Why such low weights when training with Milos???
« Reply #225 on: July 10, 2007, 06:40:39 PM »
can someone tell me how performing a marathon workout with ridiculously light weights is supposed to be anabolic?
This Milos workout sounds like a glorified cardio session.
It's hardcore when you do it wearing leg warmers and tights.

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Re: Why such low weights when training with Milos???
« Reply #226 on: July 10, 2007, 07:16:54 PM »
Bluto i could not hang with Milos either now natural or chemically enhanced 3 or so years ago i like my methodical training,Arnolds Encylopedia of Bodybuilding is my Bible training 6 days a week, with nice long rest periods in between sets.
Every one has there style, im sure if i did more cardio took no rest between sets and pratically burned myself out i could hang with some of Milos natural students but not the Man himself.
Milos style remindes me of what Sergio Oliva went through with Arthur Jones i am suprised nobody has brought this up.Sergio looked the best he ever did in the 72 MrO with some white guy beating him ive forgot his name.
Heres the sergio routine notice the use of heavier weights!

This is a recount from 1971, an excerpt/paraphrasing from Ellington Darden's book, "New High-Intensity Bodybuilding," a MUST HAVE book. Anyways, he visited Sergio and Jones in August of '71 and watched him train legs. At the time, Jones had been training him for only 3-4 weeks at the time. What's interesting is the Darden had never really noticed Sergio's thighs before until one day in August. He exclaimed to Sergio that his thighs were enormous. Sergio replied, "Yeah, they've really improved since I've been doing Jone's hihg-intensity thigh routine...Come see for yourself [the routine] on Friday morning."

That Friday, they went to Deland High School, which Darden says is the only place Jones trained people at in those days.

"Okay, Sergio, let's begin with legs, " said Jones in a commanding voice.

Sergio had been personally trained by Jones for several weeks, and he knew what to expect. He walked around nervously looking at the floor and slowly shaking each leg.

"Let's go Sergio," said Jones, "Into the leg press. Get the weight set."

Two large football players put 480 pounds on the leg press machine and adjusted the seat.

"Twenty reps, I want twenty reps," Jones said to Sergio.

At seventeen reps, Sergio looked whipped.

"Rest a few seconds in lockout and you'll be able to get three more reps, " Jones said.

Sergio quickly took five short breaths and squeezed out three more reps.

Arthur nodded to the football players who literally picked up Oliva from the leg press and immeadiately helped him to the leg extension machine. The weight was set up at 200 pounds, and the goal again was 20 reps. By the tenth rep, Sergio was in obvious pain. Somehow with Jones hurling insults about his manhood, Oliva managed another seven or eight repetitions.

Once again Jones nodded to the football players and they pried Sergio from the machine and hurried him across the room to the squat racks. The bar was already loaded with 420 pounds.

Three weeks earlier, Arthur noted, Sergio had performed a similar routine but with less weight and was unable to perform a single repetition in the squat with 400 pounds. "He'll do 420 today and for at least a dozen reps," Jones confidently predicted.

With 420 pounds on his back, Oliva stepped back from the squat racks and began grinding out the repetitions. The first three reps were extremeley hard. In fact I [Darden] didn't think he was going to make the second rep. SOmehow he did. Repetitions four through ten seemed a bit easier than the initial ones. He seemed to get into a sort of groove, even though he was breathing and sweating like a steam engine. Repetition eleven went slow, and repetition twelve was very slow. True to Jones predicition, Sergio failed on the thirteenth rep.

"Take the big plates off," Jones said to the spotters as they helped Oliva back to the rack. "Okay Sergio, any champion bodybuilder ought to be able to squat with 300 pounds."

(Sergio did not look pleased)

Sergio, however, responded as Jones hoped he would. He shouldred the barbell, backed up and performed six perfect full squats with 300 pounds. He then returned it to the racks and promptly collapsed on the floor... "Arthur, he looks dead to me," I said.

Just then I noticed Sergio's left eye open. When he saw me looking at him, he smiled. "Arthur wouldn't let me die - at least not until I've finished the workout."


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Re: Why such low weights when training with Milos???
« Reply #227 on: July 10, 2007, 07:45:55 PM »
 YES BUT, WITH MUCH LESS SETS.. AND WORKING THE WHOLE BODY IN ONE SESSION.. they were not similar at all..

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Re: Why such low weights when training with Milos???
« Reply #228 on: July 11, 2007, 12:06:14 AM »
It's hardcore when you do it wearing leg warmers and tights.

Don’t forget about the stiletto pumps. They make my lunges more eventful!
and keep moving!

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Re: How come Milos and everyone training with him lift pussy weight?
« Reply #229 on: July 11, 2007, 01:14:52 AM »
So whats your opinion? you're just a dummy doing what the coach says huh? how about having an opinion of your own?

I bet you would pay me to have you use the pink dumbbells for the workout, and yes I'll make you throw up at the end of the set with that too


u obviously never came close to feeling what a workout of that intensity feels like.

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Re: How come Milos and everyone training with him lift pussy weight?
« Reply #230 on: July 11, 2007, 01:48:27 AM »
u obviously never came close to feeling what a workout of that intensity feels like.

im not so much into the feeling, im more into results
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Re: How come Milos and everyone training with him lift pussy weight?
« Reply #231 on: July 11, 2007, 02:04:44 AM »
im not so much into the feeling, im more into results

they are directly proportional...the better u "feel" the better results  :)

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Re: How come Milos and everyone training with him lift pussy weight?
« Reply #232 on: July 11, 2007, 03:05:06 AM »
they are directly proportional...the better u "feel" the better results  :)

im sure puking 70 dollars worth of supplements into a bucket feels great

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Re: Why such low weights when training with Milos???
« Reply #233 on: July 11, 2007, 03:48:17 AM »
Milos training somehow reminds me of Steve Michalik's I&I.

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Re: Why such low weights when training with Milos???
« Reply #234 on: July 11, 2007, 07:04:29 AM »
How much procent is it better than cell tech?

I am combining them with the SIX STAR products and i love the combo!!!!

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Re: Why such low weights when training with Milos???
« Reply #235 on: July 11, 2007, 07:12:03 AM »
I am combining them with the SIX STAR products and i love the combo!!!!
How much do you think you will weigh next year in contest shape.
Goal to lift Heavy

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Re: Why such low weights when training with Milos???
« Reply #236 on: July 11, 2007, 10:56:50 AM »
Milos training somehow reminds me of Steve Michalik's I&I.


Michaliks training was/is alot more intense.

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Re: Why such low weights when training with Milos???
« Reply #237 on: July 11, 2007, 11:55:19 AM »
Michalik was the man!
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Re: How come Milos and everyone training with him lift pussy weight?
« Reply #238 on: July 11, 2007, 07:49:16 PM »
im not so much into the feeling, im more into results

prove it and post a pic of your fabulous results ::)
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: How come Milos and everyone training with him lift pussy weight?
« Reply #239 on: July 12, 2007, 02:45:13 AM »
prove it and post a pic of your fabulous results ::)

where do you want me to put the picture? side by side with yours?  ::)
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Re: Why such low weights when training with Milos???
« Reply #240 on: July 21, 2007, 05:04:33 PM »
I'm pretty sure they would get far better result if they starting training more like Ronnie!

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Ronnie is trying to sell DVD's Milos is trying to increase his reputation as a trainer. They are two very different goals. Neither has the primary goal of increasing muscle mass whilest shooting a video.