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GH , SLIN Timing
« on: November 02, 2007, 06:01:33 AM »
Hi Guys,

thanks in advance for always the great feed back and wisdom it's helped me a lot.

Ive just got some GH and I want to use it with a current cycle of test n primo before I go on holiday. Thats in 6 weeks time. Ive used it before and saw great results in as little as 2 weeks.

What I want to know is this. how long do you guys wait after your slin shot to take your gh?

Ive done this in the past. As I finish the work out take slin then wait 30min and take GH. Is that the most effective timing?

Ive used slin twice before. The first time was great worked like a bomb. The second time was bad I was using it twice a day and I didnt last a week. So im going to use it again but just post work out in the evenings.

Any thoughts?

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Re: GH , SLIN Timing
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2007, 07:30:39 AM »
The rate of action of which slin, and HGH overlap is what is gonna matter.(Cutting)

Ive not used slin, but if you dont know and understand the onset and duration of action of the particular
one(s)  ::)  Your using, your asking for trouble.

Some guys also mix long and short acting.....

The fact your not mentioning what kind, worries me.
Anyone watching your ass after you take it? ANyone that will do the right thing that is?

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Re: GH , SLIN Timing
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2007, 08:12:27 AM »
Humalog or actrapid fast acting, As I take it a check the time and consume 10g simple carb per IU. Dont worry ive got everything in check and I dont use a lot. Im very sensative to it and find a little goes a long way.

Im juts not sure how I should time my GH shot after my slin. Lots of opinions and I need some that count. Ive been working on 30min after slin.

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Re: GH , SLIN Timing
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2007, 08:34:52 AM »
I got no carved in stone answer, but does HGH  increase blood sugar?

Ive heard not to overlap them because of that.

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Re: GH , SLIN Timing
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2007, 11:59:55 AM »
I got no carved in stone answer, but does HGH  increase blood sugar?

Ive heard not to overlap them because of that.
I would be surprised but I could be wrong.

GetBigOrDieTrying, I don't use slin, probably never will because I am convinced it will in my case only make me fat. That said, I guess I can't help that much with your situation. However, as for simply GH itself, I prefer and see best results taking once per day first thing in the morning on an empty stomach.

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Re: GH , SLIN Timing
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2007, 03:07:13 PM »
There are a number of ways to take GH and when combining with Insulin it complicates it a bit.  First off GH reduces glucose uptake which is why it increases blood sugar.  GH also promotes gluconeogenesis, which is when the body makes glucose from more complex hydrocarbons like fatty acids.  This also increases blood sugar as well as reduces fat.  Gluconeogenesis occurs more when the glucose supply is low (low blood sugar, i.e. empty stomach).

So where are we at, we used some GH and now we have reduced some fat into glucose but our glycogen uptake is hindered by it as well.  This is where insulin comes into play.  Injecting insulin at this point forces the glycogen uptake to occur in the muscles, liver, and kidneys which allows for immediate nutrient transport post workout. 

Chemically this is the most anabolically efficient way to do it, the problem is that many people feel fatigue doing it this way and they opt to take the GH after the 'slin because the reduction process of the carbon substrates (fats, acids, alcohols etc) combined with the hypoglycemia help balance each other.

Ideally on paper you could inject GH 15 minutes preworkout and a fast acting insulin at the start and drink a high mono and polysaccharide complex throughout the workout, but for anyone who had ever tried to lift post 'slin injection... it's just too hard to balance it perfectly and be able to actually lift.

Basically what I'm saying is doing it the "best way" is not a good way to do it, so it really doesn't matter.  Doing it in reverse, with the GH following the insulin will work well but you will see less fat reduction. I will try to elaborate on this more but I have to get going at the moment.

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Re: GH , SLIN Timing
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2007, 03:32:35 AM »
Thanks guys ,

So your saying its better to shoot the GH first and then the slin?

I hear what you saying there is no ways I want to shoot slin pre work out , that why you see milo's and his guys using giant sets with light weights. Maybe one day but not now I can still grow plenty doing it the good old fashioned way.

So lets say I train and its gets to the end of the work out. I drink 80g simple carbs (vitargo) with BCAA's and all that jazz. I normally would shoot slin at this point in the gym. It takes me 5 min to get home. Id then shower and once I get out hit a protein shake with GH wait and hour then eat a massive solid of protein and complex carbs. Does this sound good?

Im going to look at taking 50mg anadrol about 3 hours before I train with this in about 1 weeks time.

Any thoughts on how I could improve this?