Newb Cycle: Test Prop

[cypher]

Thinking of doing a Test Prop cycle leading up to summer.

What kind of dose should I do, should I use any estrogen blockers with it?

[Rimbaud]

If it's your first time around I highly recommend you don't use prop.

Anyway, as for a cycle - try 100mg EOD for 8-10 weeks. You shouldn't need any anti-e's until the end but keeping a little adex or nolva around wouldn't hurt.

[cypher]

Reasoning?

And what is EOD?

I have a friend whos been juicin for about 2 years and he recommended test prop as a first cycle, only reason i ask..

[Rimbaud]

A lot of people find prop shots painful & some get swelling from it. I'm pretty sensitive to the easter so I don't use it (both UG & HG prop). Because of it's short half life it needs to be injected more frequently so if you're sensitive to the ester it'll get pretty painful with an average of 3-4 shots a weeks. EOD=Every Other Day.

Note: The only place I found I could shot prop without any problems was pecs. I've done quad injections with prop & limped for three days.

[trab]

Hes right. Its painfull compared to TE or TC and need freqent shots.

Only good things are: Most likely wont need any estrogen blockers or inhibiters.
Clears fast. Not as supressive. NOt big on the water retention scale.

But SOme of the rep for "lesser side effects" come from the fact - Ya simply aint useing as much steroid.
Not a good 1st cycle choice IMO.

Best used to help kick off a cycle or end it, due to its fast acting nature.

Some guys react badly to it, painfull.

100mg eod is normal to hear.

[cypher]

thanks , but since you guys both qouldnt recommend it as a first cycle.. what would you recommend?

[Emmortal]

Yup, I only use prop to kick off a cycle for the first 4 weeks.

Test e/c would be a much better first cycle.  Honestly, that's all I would do as a first timer so you can see how you react to test and what it does to your body, some guys like throwing in d-bol to kick it off, but as a first timer it's probably best you just do test so you can see how you shut down and how to deal with that.

[Rimbaud]

thanks , but since you guys both qouldnt recommend it as a first cycle.. what would you recommend?

Just start with 500mg of Test E or C for 10-15 weeks.

[trab]

Need learn up about steroids in general........ conversion to estrogen, problems from that, and recovery.
It's Not like ... muscle in a pill/shot. Not that simple.

[cypher]

lol .. i kno its not magic muscle milk

To me its a a supplement that will actually supplement my growth..

I put in work at the gym.. My diet isnt the best is I tend to only eat 3-4 meals a day with a weight gainer shake at night, but I was looking into the uni liver tabs to add to my diet once I began the cycle..

AFAIK, the only diff between Test E/C and Test P would be how quickly it start to take effect and how long it lasts.. So is the reason for it not being recommended to a new user be because of frequent injections?

Im def staying away from d bol or any pills due to the toxicity and the effects on the liver etc..

So I figure a light test only cycle followed by nolvadex should be just what im looking for..no?

[trab]

lol .. i kno its not magic muscle milk

To me its a a supplement that will actually supplement my growth..

I put in work at the gym.. My diet isnt the best is I tend to only eat 3-4 meals a day with a weight gainer shake at night, but I was looking into the uni liver tabs to add to my diet once I began the cycle..

AFAIK, the only diff between Test E/C and Test P would be how quickly it start to take effect and how long it lasts.. So is the reason for it not being recommended to a new user be because of frequent injections?

Im def staying away from d bol or any pills due to the toxicity and the effects on the liver etc..

So I figure a light test only cycle followed by nolvadex should be just what im looking for..no?

I'd have nolva on hand in case you'd need  it before end of cycle. Having SOme A'dex handy wouldnt hurt.
500mg of real TE or TC will kick ass if ya never used any.

Prop takes a lot of shots, and hurts more'n E & C.
You could switch to it (TP) at the end for 20 days (10cc @ 100mg shot eod) that'd bring you down gradual.
It'd kill time while the long acting stuff clears out a bit.

[Arnold jr]

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=92379.0

[delta9mda]

Just start with 500mg of Test E or C for 10-15 weeks.

what he said