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Re: Anti Inflamitories
« Reply #25 on: May 24, 2008, 06:15:13 AM »
awesome !  dude im pumped.

if you culd how about one for fat loss and one for muscle gain..  !

also dude i am doing a fat loss diet right now i devised i think you would find cool.. i p.m. it to tyou

they would be somewhat similar with food choices constituting the major differences.

for weight gain, or mass

my preworkout meal would be 1.5 hours pre workout and would always have red meat for high amounts of arachidonic acid with a nightshade family veggie like potatoes and your choice of veggies aka spnach etc..

30 mins preworkout i would have half a protein shake of whey only to promote protein synthesis. During workout i would drink a shake consisting of BCAA'S and the more leucine the better as its effects are somewhat linear. As much as you could suffer down. I would have another shake 30 mins before the end of the workout with taurine and arginine for GH response with taurine replacing lost liver conjugation products and proper estrogen response. Have glucose in your shakes throughout at low doses. PWO a protein shake( the other half) and an hour later another red meat meal with a nicer carb like brown rice and veggies. Sorry have some creatine ethyl ester during workout.

Weight loss

i would stick to leaner sources of meat postworkout. Like a chicken meal, never a fish meal though because of the type of fat. I would also lower the carbs and eat more veggies. Protein shakes would remain the same although i would add skim milk and cut out glucose during workouts. Reason being milk is magical and seems to cause weightloss by itself and its BCAA content and low glucose is a good replacement. Pre workout i would add stim of your choice and possibly tyrosine for thyroxine production. Workout shake is still high BCAA;'s with perhaps some citrulline malate and no creatine(as it is lipogenic). postworkout the other shake, no glucose and hour later i would have a fish meal with little to no carbs other then veggies as the milk and previous meal supplied enough and glycogen depletion is ideal for weight loss, or partioning better yet.

some supps id add for weight loss would be fish oil, sesamin, forskolin, tyrosine and stim of choice

i would avoid stims during bulking as its hard to pack on that weight

with the red meat your trying to create inflammation (i know not the healthiest) and protein synthesis which all the supps and food should do. High amounts of protein=synthesis low amount at sustained release=anti catabolic not anabolic.

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Re: Anti Inflamitories
« Reply #26 on: May 24, 2008, 07:36:28 AM »
dude im printing this off and also saving it to my hard driv.  :)

lol usmokepole grazi your awesome

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Re: Anti Inflamitories
« Reply #27 on: May 26, 2008, 10:09:10 AM »
usmoke, hey so we want t promote inflamation post workout,, right ?  so would it be wise to take a couple caps of evening primrose oil at this time ?


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Re: Anti Inflamitories
« Reply #28 on: May 26, 2008, 10:53:14 AM »
usmoke, hey so we want t promote inflamation post workout,, right ?  so would it be wise to take a couple caps of evening primrose oil at this time ?



no, evening primrose oil is anti inflammatory due to its high GLA content. A good oil for that would be safflower oil which is inflammatory.

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Re: Anti Inflamitories
« Reply #29 on: May 26, 2008, 10:55:31 AM »
no, evening primrose oil is anti inflammatory due to its high GLA content. A good oil for that would be safflower oil which is inflammatory.
damnit ! i tok it today post workout with out waiting for your response !

i thought omega 6 were purely pro -inflammatory...

oh well

hopefully two grams evening primrose oil wont hurt me too muh, will it?

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Re: Anti Inflamitories
« Reply #30 on: May 26, 2008, 11:17:06 AM »
hopefully two grams evening primrose oil wont hurt me too muh, will it?

I'd go to the hospital just to be safe...
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Re: Anti Inflamitories
« Reply #31 on: May 26, 2008, 03:39:43 PM »
damnit ! i tok it today post workout with out waiting for your response !

i thought omega 6 were purely pro -inflammatory...

oh well

hopefully two grams evening primrose oil wont hurt me too muh, will it?

id definitely keep the primrose oil in the diet taken with fish oil, both have great health benefits. Its not the primrose its the GLA.Most 06's are inflammtory, gla is not :D. For example some sat fats are bad while coconut or lauric acid has a different metabolism and being a Medium chain triglyceride with caprylic acid has many health benefits. But rule of thumb, o6s are pro inflammaory, there are a few exceptions.

the hinderance on growth should be dose related, but to be safe keep it in your fish oil meal.