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« on: June 11, 2008, 09:51:16 AM »
Last week i had a discussion on a Dutch board about the injection frequency, taking dbol and provi at the same time.

Everybody claims that shooting test e every 5th day is better for the bloodlevels. But on Getbig I read you just split the dosage and shoot every monday and thursday. So what is best ? And why ?

The same people I discuss with claim that you shouldn't take dbol and provi at the same time. So if you were taking dbol week 1-4 you should begin provi after week 4. This because provi is reducing the effects of dbol. Is this true or not ?

Thanks.

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Re: 2 questions
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2008, 09:59:52 AM »
proviron can only help not hurt the dbol.. its a mild anti estrogen.. but it also ties up shgb 

its ideal to inject it more frequently than less frequently...even though these esters are supposed to release in one steady stream they do not.. most peak about 3 days after and then diminish over time..

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Re: 2 questions
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2008, 10:42:35 AM »
Last week i had a discussion on a Dutch board about the injection frequency, taking dbol and provi at the same time.

Everybody claims that shooting test e every 5th day is better for the bloodlevels. But on Getbig I read you just split the dosage and shoot every monday and thursday. So what is best ? And why ?

The same people I discuss with claim that you shouldn't take dbol and provi at the same time. So if you were taking dbol week 1-4 you should begin provi after week 4. This because provi is reducing the effects of dbol. Is this true or not ?

Thanks.
i agree with candidizzle proviron will actually help by restricting shbg(steroid hormone binding globulin) allowing more steroid molecules to actually "get through".
  test e has a half life of about 10 days so you could inject as infrequently as that.all depends on dosage and how many shots you need .

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Re: 2 questions
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2008, 01:06:25 PM »
Thanks for your answers.

So it's obvious that provi decreases the SHBG levels in your system, but on the Dutch board they say that dbol uses the SHBG to travel arround te body. So in theory it's driving a car and brake at the same time.

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« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2008, 02:12:06 PM »
no if you want an analagy think of it like thi s


you = pimp
shgb = police officers
dbol = high priced hookers
proviron = cheap crack whores
 androgen receptors = your high paying clients who want to pay for sex
blood stream = streets


okay so lets say the police officers catch 10 percent of all the prostitutes on the street every year. you want less of your high priced hookers getting caught because they make you lots of money when they hook up with those high paying clients who pay for sex.  they way you do this is by increasing the number of prostitutes on the street by putting a bunch of cheap crack whores out on the streets with your high priced hookers.


 ;D

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« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2008, 02:17:26 PM »
aq couple funnny quirks about this city filled with dudes who want sex and whores and police...  ;D

the city council is pretty weird. it seems as if when the number of total prostitutes rises, they seem to get down hearted at their ability to catch the prostitutes and their reaction is actually that they cut down on the number of police officers that they send out to arrest those dirty sluts.

now there is a set number of dudes in this city who want to buy sex and use your prostitutes. now when you exceed this number of dudes with more prostitutes than is needed, what happens is that your city gets a little bit fucked up; BUT all of the sudden somebody kills thos prostitutes and replaces into their houses dudes who want to pay for sex !  so once you put some more prostitutes into that town, youll now have a greater total number of bitches out there fucking those dicks for money !


oh yeah... i forgot to add... in this analogy the amount of money you as a pimp are making from these bitches is = to the amount of muscle you gain

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Re: 2 questions
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2008, 02:18:39 PM »
Thanks for your answers.

So it's obvious that provi decreases the SHBG levels in your system

Not so fast.  I've read that but I haven't seen reputable studies supporting it... not that I've looked.  Also, as is frequently pointed out, AAS in general reduce SHBG levels, so proviron isn't unique in that regard.


but on the Dutch board they say that dbol uses the SHBG to travel arround te body. So in theory it's driving a car and brake at the same time.

My understanding is that SHBGs help transport androgens across things like the blood/brain barrier (and probably into the prostate too), but they don't serve any anabolic purpose and tie up a bodybuilder's androgens, yielding a lower free androgen index and lesser anabolism.


Proviron is claimed to be a mild AI as well (though most guys seem to disagree with its effectiveness), so if it reduces the estrogen bloat of the dbol some guys might interpret that as interferring with gains.  Just speculating.

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Re: 2 questions
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2008, 03:24:52 PM »
no if you want an analagy think of it like thi s


you = pimp
shgb = police officers
dbol = high priced hookers
proviron = cheap crack whores
 androgen receptors = your high paying clients who want to pay for sex
blood stream = streets


okay so lets say the police officers catch 10 percent of all the prostitutes on the street every year. you want less of your high priced hookers getting caught because they make you lots of money when they hook up with those high paying clients who pay for sex.  they way you do this is by increasing the number of prostitutes on the street by putting a bunch of cheap crack whores out on the streets with your high priced hookers.


 ;D
that has got to be the best analogy i have ever heard